http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.wikitext hourly 1 1901-01-01T00:00+00:00 http://gmane.org/img/gmane-25t.png http://gmane.org http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.wikitext/771 <pre>Hi! I am Abhishek Das, a student developer from Indian Institute of Technology Roorkee, India. I have been understanding MediaWiki's code and have started contributing by solving a few bugs marked easy. Here is my user page: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Abhshkdz I have wide experience in building applications in PHP, MySQL &amp; JavaScript (both client-side &amp; server-side: Node.js). You can see my Github profile here: https://github.com/abhshkdz.  Recently, I have been working on a lot of real-time web applications using server set events, websockets as well as Socket.IO. I have experience in building collaborative document editors. This is a video conferencing with collaborative document editing application that I built during a 24-hour hackathon and won it: https://github.com/abhshkdz/hackview. It uses webRTC for Peer-to-peer video conferencing, and collaborative doc editing over shareJS.  Few days back, I built an open-source version of WorkFlowy (http://workflowy.com) using Backbone.js </pre> Abhishek Das 2013-04-26T03:36:24 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.wikitext/770 <pre>Hi, all! As you might have seen on the Wikimedia tech blog &lt;https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/03/11/lua-templates-faster-more-flexible-pages/&gt; or the tech ambassadors list &lt;http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-ambassadors/2013-March/000171.html&gt;, we enabled Lua on all Wikimedia sites last week. Lua &lt;https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Lua&gt; is a scripting language that enables wiki editors to write faster and more powerful MediaWiki templates. We're pretty excited about this, partly because of the promise of Lua + Wikidata &lt;https://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/03/14/what-lua-scripting-means-wikimedia-open-source/&gt;. To enable Lua templating on your own wiki, install the Scribunto extension &lt;https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Scribunto&gt;. If you have questions about how to convert existing templates to Lua (or how to create new ones), we'll be holding two support sessions on IRC this week: one on Wednesday &lt;http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?hour=02&amp;min=00&amp;sec=0&amp;day=20&amp;month=03&amp;year=2013</pre> Sumana Harihareswara 2013-03-17T12:58:16 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.wikitext/769 <pre>Hi, we just published a blog post about Parsoid at http://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/03/04/parsoid-how-wikipedia-catches-up-with-the-web/ We are also looking for somebody to join us in our Parsoid adventure: http://hire.jobvite.com/Jobvite/Job.aspx?j=oIsbXfw2&amp;c=qSa9VfwQ Cheers, Gabriel _______________________________________________ Wikitext-l mailing list Wikitext-l&lt; at &gt;lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitext-l </pre> Gabriel Wicke 2013-03-04T20:01:40 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.wikitext/764 <pre>I'd like to get involved in the parsoid effort. I've been hanging out in the IRC channel on freenode but there's usually just a dozen lurkers and no action. In the mailing lists parsoid seems to be mentioned about as often in wikitext-l and wikitech-l - which one is best to ask questions of this nature? I'd like to scratch my own itch rather than necessarily go after things on the todo list and roadmap. Basically I'm interested in what parsoid can do for parsing wikitext markup into HTML (or other formats). I want to use it without a mediawiki install and without an internet connection. I see there is already some kind of support for reading in articles from compressed dump files. Any suggestions where I should start or where I can hang out to chat live with people who could help getting me involved? Andrew Dunbar (hippietrail) _______________________________________________ Wikitext-l mailing list Wikitext-l&lt; at &gt;lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitext-l </pre> Andrew Dunbar 2013-02-25T12:03:21 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.wikitext/753 <pre>Earlier this month, the Visual Editor team gave an update on their progress and their goals for 2013. Check it out: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:VisualEditor-Parsoid_-_2013-02_Metrics_deck.pdf https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Metrics_and_activities_meetings/2013-02-07 has the video on Commons &amp; YouTube. Significantly: the Visual Editor *should* be able to work in Internet Explorer and to handle core basic templates, such as {{cite web}}, by 1 July 2013. </pre> Sumana Harihareswara 2013-02-16T18:48:23 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.wikitext/742 <pre>http://www.londonlua.org/ I emailed a bit with Justin from London Lua and he expressed interest in having a Wikimedian present, either in person or remotely, about what Wikimedia's going to be doing with Lua. There is already the video tutorial https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Berlin_Hackathon_2012_-_Lua_introduction_%28Tim_Starling%29.ogv and the written tutorial https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Lua_scripting/Tutorial in case you want materials to use. And if it would take a little money for you to get to London, the Wikimedia Foundation might be able to reimburse travel expenses: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Participation:Support </pre> Sumana Harihareswara 2012-11-19T18:02:28 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.wikitext/742 <pre>http://www.londonlua.org/ I emailed a bit with Justin from London Lua and he expressed interest in having a Wikimedian present, either in person or remotely, about what Wikimedia's going to be doing with Lua. There is already the video tutorial https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Berlin_Hackathon_2012_-_Lua_introduction_%28Tim_Starling%29.ogv and the written tutorial https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Lua_scripting/Tutorial in case you want materials to use. And if it would take a little money for you to get to London, the Wikimedia Foundation might be able to reimburse travel expenses: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Participation:Support </pre> Sumana Harihareswara 2012-11-19T18:02:28 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.wikitext/725 <pre>Hello, I was wondering if there was a way to enable to VisualEditor in the Main namespace for 3rd-party wikis, or if an ETA is known for when users will able to do that? Thanks! _______________________________________________ Wikitext-l mailing list Wikitext-l&lt; at &gt;lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitext-l </pre> Andrew Martin 2012-08-24T13:29:29 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.wikitext/723 <pre>Since this was not yet posted to wikitext-l: Last Thursday, we rolled out a new release of the Visual Editor, the first to use Parsoid to load and save actual wiki pages. You can read about it at http://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/06/21/help-us-shape-wikimedias-prototype-visual-editor/. Or try it at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/VisualEditor:Test And please leave feedback at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Visual_editor/Feedback or in bugzilla. Cheers, Gabriel </pre> Gabriel Wicke 2012-06-26T13:02:39 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.wikitext/718 <pre>June 26-29, a bunch of us will be in Portland, Oregon, USA for the Open Source Bridge conference. http://opensourcebridge.org/events/2012/schedule WMF is sponsoring the Friday unconference day, and will host a hacking table that day as well as (I hope) the Tuesday "Hacker Lounge Project/Community Night." Wikimedians are giving several talks during OSBridge: "Identity, Reputation and Gratitude: Designing for a community" by Brandon Harris: Tuesday, 1:30 "A snapshot of Open Source in West Africa" by Renaud Gaudin: Tuesday, 3:45 "Building A Visual Editor for Wikipedia" by Roan Kattouw and Trevor Parscal: Tuesday, 4:45 "Internationalization &lt; at &gt;Wikipedia: Helping add the next billion web users" by Alolita Sharma: Wednesday, 10am "Why you need to host 100 new wikis just for yourself." by Ward Cunningham: Wednesday, 2:30 "Outreach Events: My Triumphs, My Mistakes" by Asheesh Laroia and me: Thursday, 3:45 I give the opening keynote address on Tuesday morning. My tentative title: "Be Bold."</pre> Sumana Harihareswara 2012-06-19T10:36:58 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.wikitext/717 <pre>This is a reminder that you're invited to the pre-Wikimania hackathon, 10-11 July in Washington, DC, USA: https://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Hackathon In order to come, you have to register for the Wikimania conference: https://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Registration (Unfortunately, the period for requesting scholarships is now over.) At the hackathon, we'll have trainings and projects for novices, and we welcome creators of all Wikimedia technologies -- MediaWiki, gadgets, bots, mobile apps, you name it -- to hack on stuff together and teach each other. Hope to see you! </pre> Sumana Harihareswara 2012-06-18T19:29:16 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.wikitext/715 <pre>http://www.lua.org/wshop12.html "the main goal of the workshop is to allow the Lua community to get together and meet in person and talk about the Lua language, its uses, and its implementation.... We shall have a plenary talk by Roberto Ierusalimschy (Lua's chief architect) and several contributed talks.... If you'd like to speak at the workshop, please send a tentative title and a short abstract to the organizers." If you think it would be useful for Wikimedia to make an appearance, go ahead and submit an abstract or suggest someone to go. </pre> Sumana Harihareswara 2012-06-13T11:14:26 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.wikitext/712 <pre>Hello, I have just set up a very basic web service for Parsoid at http://parsoid.wmflabs.org/ It gives you the ability to browse the English Wikipedia as Parsoid currently sees it, and provides forms for wikitext -&gt; HTML DOM and HTML DOM -&gt; wikitext conversion tests. Round-tripping is brand new and very limited, and does not support the preservation of variable whitespace, templates and other complex constructs yet. Currently 154 parser tests are passing in the new --roundtrip mode that Subbu added last week. Gabriel </pre> Gabriel Wicke 2012-05-23T17:06:52 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.wikitext/708 <pre>Will I be able to implement the Visual Editor outside MediaWiki? For instance, could I install it as a JavaScript library in a separate application? I notice that the original edit toolbar and the toolbar that comes with the WikiEditor extension are coupled so tightly to MediWiki that it's near impossible to integrate them into a separate application. (If I'm wrong, please educate me.) I wonder if the same will apply to the rich-text editor. Thanks, Jim </pre> Jim Safley 2012-05-19T19:26:22 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.wikitext/705 <pre>Hello, template expansion performance in Parsoid has made great strides recently. [[:en:Barack Obama]] now expands in relatively reasonable time and memory: echo '{{:Barack Obama}}' | time node parse.js &gt; obama.html 42.18user 2.04system 0:46.23elapsed 95%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 1528480maxresident)k 848inputs+0outputs (8major+691968minor)pagefaults 0swaps Sample output: http://dev.wikidev.net/gabriel/tmp/obama.html The time utility reports the maximum resident memory inflated by a factor of four (some bug in time afaik), so this works out to 382M resident max which matches with top. This is measured on my Intel i3 M370 laptop, and in the same ballpark as the PHP parser running on the cluster. There are a few tokenizer issues visible in the output. Some of them, such as the Navbox templates near the bottom, contain constructs like this: {{#if:foo|&lt;tr&gt;&lt;th&gt;&lt;th style="foo;|&lt;th style="}} bar;"&gt; Supporting this would be very messy, so the template should be changed to use a saner nesting: {{#if:foo</pre> Gabriel Wicke 2012-05-03T15:04:30 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.wikitext/693 <pre>Hi all! I just noticed that MediaWiki uses two different mime types for wikitext: * application/x-wiki is used by AjaxResponse, OutputPage and StreamFile. * text/x-wiki is used by RawAction.php (i.e. when you use action=raw) Is there a good reason for this, or is it just an oversight? I suggest to use the same mime type everywhere, and keep the old one for compatibility reasons - i.e. we should use application/x-wiki consistently, and RawAction could support text/x-wiki as an alias. That being said... the *correct* mime type would imho be application/x-mediawiki. But i don't insist on it :) </pre> Daniel Kinzler 2012-04-25T16:09:31 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.wikitext/691 <pre>How can we make the Visual Editor as efficient as, or more so than, wikitext editing when it comes to handling complex tasks like citations, templates, etc.? I know it's a bit early to talk about detailed aspects of the editing surface, but this may have some impact on architectural considerations for plug-ins and such, so I wanted to raise it on this list. I don't think it's that much of a stretch goal to be more efficient than wikitext editing for a lot of common cases. For example, using complex templates manually is extremely inefficient, usually requiring a visit to a Template: namespace to read the template documentation, then apply the correct syntax and hope you're not making a typo in the process. A few models: * Wikia's current-generation visual editor offers panels with access to templates and categories, autocompleting as you type. If our goal is to create an editing surface that focuses on the content and gets out of the way (and IMO it should be), these types of panels add clutter which is l</pre> Erik Moeller 2012-04-24T02:26:46 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.wikitext/689 <pre>Just a quick note on how that work is going: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Lua_scripting#Status </pre> Sumana Harihareswara 2012-04-19T15:53:49 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.wikitext/687 <pre>Regarding the Inline Editor mentioned in today's post by Sumana: (http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:InlineEditor http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/InlineEditor/) To give credit where credit is due, the editor was the brainchild of Jan Paul Posma, then a student at Groniger, now a graduate student at Oxford, who coordinated our contribution. GRNET worked together with Jan Paul to carry out improvements as well as an interesting usability study that we presented in last year's Wikimedia Conference in Berlin. We have since stopped working on the project since we were not sure that there was interest for it to be used. However, if there is a possibility that it may be useful in some way, we would be happy to see what could be done, discussing with Jan Paul. Best Regards, Panos Louridas GRNET _______________________________________________ Wikitext-l mailing list Wikitext-l&lt; at &gt;lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitext-l </pre> Panos Louridas 2012-04-18T07:01:51 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.wikitext/686 <pre>I was made aware of work done on an "inline editor" -- see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:InlineEditor and code at http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/InlineEditor/ . This work was done by a team coordinated by GRNET (Greek Research Network), which developed a WYSIWYG editor that produces MediaWiki syntax. I presume that the Visual Editor team (Wikimedia Foundation and Wikia) already know about this work as a predecessor to their own, but just wanted to share it in case it's useful to anyone else while they wait for the Visual Editor. </pre> Sumana Harihareswara 2012-04-18T00:11:50 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.wikitext/683 <pre>Hi, I have not really looked into the code yet, but I just wanted to get your oppinions on the question: Will there be a possiblity to integrate userscripts or other extensions into the VisualEditor? Particulary i would be interested in reusing the Parsoid and retrieve something like "get parent heading from cursor"... I hope that makes sense :) Regards Jonas </pre> Jonas Brekle 2012-04-16T18:27:53 Search the mailing list at Gmane query http://search.gmane.org/?group=$group=gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.wikitext