http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.politics.activism.permaculture hourly 1 1901-01-01T00:00+00:00 http://gmane.org/img/gmane-25t.png http://gmane.org http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.politics.activism.permaculture/22677 <pre>The Convenience and Poverty of Simple Definitions&lt;http://liberationecology.org/2013/06/13/the-convenience-and-poverty-of-simple-definitions/&gt; - responding to Toby&lt;http://liberationecology.org/2013/06/13/the-convenience-and-poverty-of-simple-definitions/&gt; </pre> rafter sass ferguson 2013-06-19T00:31:58 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.politics.activism.permaculture/22675 <pre>Dear Friends, Have you experienced challenges working in collaborative groups and teams… even when you all have the best intentions? When we seek to transform ourselves and our world, the groups we form and the communities they generate can be places of deep support, nurturing, and empowerment... but they often face unique challenges as well. So often we come together full of enthusiasm, only to founder on the rocks of conflict and poor communication. Join us for a Free Webinar on Empowerment Through Collaboration: How to Create Transformation Community with Starhawk on Friday June 21, 5:00 - 6:30 pm PST; 8:00 - 9:30 EST. Drawing on insights from her latest book, The Empowerment Manual: A Guide for Collaborative Groups, we will discuss ways of how we learn to work together more skillfully and become even more effective agents of change. Learn how to make your participation in groups, in all of its aspects, an expression of your highest ideals. Space is limited, so please register and arrive early to</pre> Living Mandala 2013-06-18T19:58:34 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.politics.activism.permaculture/22674 <pre>Hi all, Hi everyone, For the third year in a row, LoaCom is proud to be working on the Quivira Conference, November 13 - 15 in Albuquerque, New Mexico. http://quiviracoalition.org/2013_Quivira_Conference_/index.html This year's theme is "Inspiring Adaptation." We will hear from scientists, ranchers, farmers, conservationists, urban planners and others who have bright ideas and important tools to share from their adaptation toolbox. This year's amazing line-up of speakers includes a co-winner of the Nobel Peace Prize, and winners of a Pulitzer Prize in Poetry, a MacArthur "genius" grant, a Pew Fellowship in Conservation and Environment, the Stewart L. Udall Award for Conservation, a Guggenheim Fellow, two Society for Range Management awards, and six Clarence Burch and Radical Center awards from the Quivira Coalition! Speakers include: Gary Snyder, Dr. Jonathan Overpeck, Dr. Gary Paul Nabhan, Dr. Deborah Finch, Bill Zeedyk, and more Read about all the speakers Please share with your lists! David </pre> David Fortson 2013-06-18T16:07:54 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.politics.activism.permaculture/22672 <pre>Does anybody here know: Have any studies been done showing the effectiveness of keyline plows? If not studies, any form of formal measurements or comparisons of outcomes?     Koreen Brennan www.growpermaculture.com www.facebook.com/growpermaculturenow www.meetup.com/sustainable-urban-agriculture-coalition _______________________________________________ permaculture mailing list permaculture-rm8PX32fqvbMZ2x0e22RKNi2O/JbrIOy&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info|make a donation toward list maintenance: http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/permaculture message archives: http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/permaculture/ Google message archive search: site: lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/permaculture [searchstring] Permaculture Institute USA http://permaculture.org Avant Geared http://www.avantgeared.com </pre> Koreen Brennan 2013-06-17T20:54:41 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.politics.activism.permaculture/22671 <pre> http://www.ahiin.com/juu/wryo/zoh/wjohj/bxx/xbnbv.html Katherine Pfohl zpt/div&gt; _______________________________________________ permaculture mailing list permaculture-rm8PX32fqvbMZ2x0e22RKNi2O/JbrIOy&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info|make a donation toward list maintenance: http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/permaculture message archives: http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/permaculture/ Google message archive search: site: lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/permaculture [searchstring] Permaculture Institute USA http://permaculture.org Avant Geared http://www.avantgeared.com </pre> Katherine Pfohl 2013-06-17T16:16:07 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.politics.activism.permaculture/22670 <pre>http://www.scotsman.com/the-scotsman/opinion/comment/graham-bell-permaculture-is-real-alternative-1-2964852#.Ub3sMoOUg8N.facebook Graham Bell: Permaculture is real alternative By GRAHAM BELL Published on *13/06/2013 02:21* AS the rusty economy grinds painfully and the financial world remains in tatters; when the unemployed see little light at the end of the tunnel and disaster seems flavour of the month, it’s good to know there is a counter-culture working in the opposite direction, a worldwide movement of people creating positive solutions for themselves. They’re not waiting for governments&lt;http://www.scotsman.com/the-scotsman/opinion/comment/graham-bell-permaculture-is-real-alternative-1-2964852#&gt;to act or asking permission. One expression of this is “permaculture”, a word derived from permanent agriculture, but increasingly directed to thinking about intelligent design for all aspects of human culture. What these people are doing is researching and learning from the best model we have for ho</pre> Lawrence London 2013-06-17T00:10:22 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.politics.activism.permaculture/22669 <pre>aqe http://bidhiex.com/ew/rcdpwbspcvx/bodwgxejdoongcd.php john douglas qmk _______________________________________________ permaculture mailing list permaculture-rm8PX32fqvbMZ2x0e22RKNi2O/JbrIOy&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info|make a donation toward list maintenance: http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/permaculture message archives: http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/permaculture/ Google message archive search: site: lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/permaculture [searchstring] Permaculture Institute USA http://permaculture.org Avant Geared http://www.avantgeared.com </pre> john douglas 2013-06-15T18:48:29 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.politics.activism.permaculture/22664 <pre>http://permacultureprinciples.com/ _______________________________________________ permaculture mailing list permaculture-rm8PX32fqvbMZ2x0e22RKNi2O/JbrIOy&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info|make a donation toward list maintenance: http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/permaculture message archives: http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/permaculture/ Google message archive search: site: lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/permaculture [searchstring] Permaculture Institute USA http://permaculture.org Avant Geared http://www.avantgeared.com </pre> Lawrence London 2013-06-14T04:15:56 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.politics.activism.permaculture/22663 <pre>http://abdallahhouse.blogspot.com/2013/05/expose-your-permaculture-project-in-2014.html _______________________________________________ permaculture mailing list permaculture-rm8PX32fqvbMZ2x0e22RKNi2O/JbrIOy&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info|make a donation toward list maintenance: http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/permaculture message archives: http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/permaculture/ Google message archive search: site: lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/permaculture [searchstring] Permaculture Institute USA http://permaculture.org Avant Geared http://www.avantgeared.com </pre> Lawrence London 2013-06-14T04:15:34 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.politics.activism.permaculture/22659 <pre>http://bretigne.typepad.com/on_the_banks/2013/05/how-long-before-this-is-illegal-too.html These are organic, heirloom carrot plants, gone to seed. Once the seeds are dry enough, we're going to harvest them, save them and plant some of them. If what's happening in Europe is any indication, it may not be long before doing this is against the law&lt;http://www.nationofchange.org/all-about-new-eu-seed-law-1368022078&gt; : "Under the new law, it will immediately be illegal to grow, reproduce or trade any vegetable seed or tree that has not been tested and approved by a new “EU Plant Variety Agency, who will make a list of approved plants. Moreover, an annual fee must also be paid to the Agency to keep them on the list, and if not paid, they cannot be grown." Yes, I know. There is now an exemption allowing home gardeners to "...save and swap unapproved seed." "Save and swap"? How about "sell"? Is there anyone my age who ever thought they would live in a world where governments controlled what kind of food people c</pre> Lawrence London 2013-06-14T03:27:17 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.politics.activism.permaculture/22658 <pre> Permaculture Design Certificate Course From Three Sisters Permaculture Three Sisters Permaculture is pleased to again offer intensive and hands on training in ecological design. Program includes design and planning, and study of intensive market gardening, natural building, energy systems, resource management, sustainable community development, and great food from the farm and local farmers! Course Dates: August 5 through 17 2013     Permaculture Design Course at Three Sisters Farm, Sandy Lake, Pa. Instructors:  Darrell Frey, Elizabeth Lynch, Daninne Egizio and guest teachers   Fee: $1200 includes fees, food and camping accommodations.                    For more information contact: Darrell Frey Three Sisters Permaculture Design 134 Obitz Road, Sandy Lake, Pa 16145   phone: 724-376-2797 or email to threesisters&lt; at &gt;bioshelter.com            www.bioshelter.com Darrell E. Frey Three Sisters Farm defrey&lt; at &gt;bioshelter.com www.bioshelter.com Author; Bioshelter Market Garden:</pre> Darrell E. Frey 2013-06-13T18:56:24 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.politics.activism.permaculture/22656 <pre>---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: JC Markatos &lt;markatos-mn4gwa5WIIQysxA8WJXlww&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt; Date: Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 5:30 PM Subject: BAJ: WED 6/12 HOPE TAYLOR - FIGHTING FOR OUR WATER! + TPC report To: Jerry Markatos &lt;markatos-mn4gwa5WIIQysxA8WJXlww&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt; Public pressure is impeding the NC Legislature's mad rush to trash environmental rules and permanently contaminate water supplies across NC for short term profit. Hear veteran environmental defender and advocate Hope Taylor, Executive Director of Clean Water for North Carolina, prepare us to defend our state and biosphere from the major threats of privatization, fracking, regulatory rollbacks and irresponsible legislation. Please invite others you know who support carcinogen-free food and water, and North Carolina's future! Jerry Markatos 919 542-2139 Balance &amp; Accuracy in Journalism ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Wednesday, June 12, 7:30 pm at The Community Church of Chapel </pre> Lawrence London 2013-06-11T20:48:33 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.politics.activism.permaculture/22655 <pre>---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: JC Markatos &lt;markatos&lt; at &gt;mindspring.com&gt; Date: Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 4:14 PM Subject: BAJ: WED 6/12 HOPE TAYLOR - FIGHTING FOR OUR WATER! + further news To: Jerry Markatos &lt;markatos&lt; at &gt;mindspring.com&gt; Jam-Packed notice... Contents: Reminder - FIGHTING FOR OUR WATER! Wednesday evening, June 12 + Related program - SATURDAY JUNE 22 Frack-Free Forum at the Ruritan Club bldg in Bynum, NC. Info and tickets at http://frackfreenc-forum.**eventbrite.com/#&lt;http://frackfreenc-forum.eventbrite.com/#&gt; + Followup info to support Witness for Peace's call to Chiquita Brands to do right by Afro-Colombian families hit by Chiquita-funded Colombian death squads. And!! Chapel Hill's Empowerment Project solicits completion money for timely documentary, "Seizing Power: How perpetual warfare is destroying American democracy and individual rights, and what you can do about it" http://www.indiegogo.com/** projects/seizing-power &lt;http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/seizing-power&gt; ~~~~~~~~~</pre> Lawrence London 2013-06-11T20:45:58 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.politics.activism.permaculture/22651 <pre>what's the big deal?....is part of the real question and the problem...the reality is that many graduates of whatever course or learning in Permaculture still don't get it....that PC is a design philosophy based on principles. It is not a set of recipes nor a methodology...that is the big deal. So those of us who give a damn rather than putting our ego and pockets first need to continually ask what we are offering those in search of solutions that what is delivered is continually strengthened rather than what is the case now ..serious weakening...that is the big deal...and what we need is to continually question our own integrity. How it is delivered is by in large irrelevant because of the many divergent ways of learning. However the original PDC of 72 hr minimum covering every aspect of the original curriculum must be the minimum expectation beyond the great array of introduction, lectures, talks, weekends etc etc. Our challenge is to strengthen the curriculum and ensure all elements are being covered adeq</pre> Steve Hart 2013-06-11T17:31:55 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.politics.activism.permaculture/22648 <pre>There are many people out there wanting to learn about permaculture and they are from an amazing array of learning habits and cultures. As long as the principles and objectives are clear, the methods will work for different participants. After teaching online for 20 years I can confidently say Ihave had to mop up after a lot of other online teachers to keep the integrity of the service respectful. so even if the delivery method is useful for certain participants, the methods of some teachers can be messy. </pre> A Sampson-Kelly 2013-06-11T00:16:48 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.politics.activism.permaculture/22647 <pre>http://biocharbraf.wordpress.com/ Biochar Risk Assessment Framework &lt;http://biocharbraf.wordpress.com/&gt; Towards a safe deployment of biochar _______________________________________________ permaculture mailing list permaculture-rm8PX32fqvbMZ2x0e22RKNi2O/JbrIOy&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info|make a donation toward list maintenance: http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/permaculture message archives: http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/permaculture/ Google message archive search: site: lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/permaculture [searchstring] Permaculture Institute USA http://permaculture.org Avant Geared http://www.avantgeared.com </pre> Lawrence London 2013-06-10T18:56:45 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.politics.activism.permaculture/22645 <pre>*13th Annual Advanced Permaculture Course in Teaching* *Dates:* August 7-13, 2013 *Instructors:* Jude Hobbs, Andrew Millison and Guests *Location:* Wilson Creek Gardens, Cottage Grove, Oregon USA *1* Empower Yourself To Advocate For Change Through Whole Systems Teaching and Design. In this dynamic and interactive course, you will learn significant teaching techniques to communicate Permaculture principles and strategies in a wide variety of settings. This Teacher Training unfolds as a design methodology and advocates the Permaculture Design Course Curriculum. Our goal is to encourage and inspire your unique strengths and talents by demonstrating diverse teaching modalities such as lecture, facilitating class discussions, storytelling, utilizing visual aids and hands-on projects. In this setting of active learning, you will experience essential practice by preparing and co-teaching multiple presentations. As a final course project the class will organize, promote and present to the public, a workshop </pre> Andrew Millison 2013-06-10T03:56:28 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.politics.activism.permaculture/22643 <pre>LL...sorry misread your response "Do you read my posts...all the way through?".....no I do not....most yes but not all....depends on the topic/subject and where I am and how busy I am Steve </pre> Steve Hart 2013-06-09T02:44:54 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.politics.activism.permaculture/22641 <pre>Thanks LL..."get it" ...PC is a Design Philosophy based on principles. If we could fully understand the principles...we would "Get it"....many if not all who want PC education are looking for recipes and methodology...which is what it is not. There is no such thing as a Permaulture Garden...but one designed on PC principles. Sly inuendos....perhaps they may be if one wanted to read them this way. I imagine what I say could be interpreted for what it says...like " evangelists" as one example.To me a simple term with simple meaning and many who are active in Permaculture know full well that we do have a number of evangelists amongst the throng. "My posts..all the way through"....not at all....you know full well that I offer you and your comments frank and blunt response which I do attempt to be polite and constructive about....I have also stated that your energy is a very valuable service to the world of PC....so just keep doing it. Keep stimulating the debate even thogh response is vet limited....Steve Hart</pre> Steve Hart 2013-06-09T02:36:15 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.politics.activism.permaculture/22639 <pre>That is the challenge. Yeah Bob...you do have a great tool you have created. However the debate goes on...what is the best way to learn PC...some can by books alone and many other methods, even online courses and weekend courses etc etc etc....but the debate goes on. I witness so many products of all facets of learning and still very few ever "get it"...so the debate will go on ...as does the abuse....get it however ya can....and for those who want to strengthen it, reinforce the curriculum and drive it through existing academia....all the power to you to....that is the missing link at the moment...just eliminate the frauds and the evangelists....purgatory perhaps...Steve Hart On 9 June 2013 13:14, &lt;permaculture-request-rm8PX32fqvbMZ2x0e22RKNi2O/JbrIOy&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt; wrote: </pre> Steve Hart 2013-06-09T01:32:01 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.politics.activism.permaculture/22634 <pre>Hi John....as an old campaigner of PC...I congratulate you on your successes in developing what you have in Panama. A close friend of mine has business there and invited me several times....perhaps if I make it to IPC11 in Cuba I may stop by. It seems to me that you have so much to offer the region and it also then seems so valuable for you to actually facilitate a very good PDC right at your doorstep. But, make sure you engage a very well qualified and experienced teacher. Once you have convened a PDC and participated fully then you will appreciate many more values of the larger dynamic of what Permaculture offers. Go hard...this is your next obvious journey....keep me posted...Steve Hart On 8 June 2013 10:32, john douglas &lt;johnarthurdouglas99-/E1597aS9LQAvxtiuMwx3w&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt; wrote: </pre> Steve Hart 2013-06-08T20:52:46 Search the mailing list at Gmane query http://search.gmane.org/?group=$group=gmane.politics.activism.permaculture