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  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.solaris.opensolaris.indiana/14377">
    <title>Proposal: Retire indiana-discuss</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.solaris.opensolaris.indiana/14377</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;For the past couple of years I have been a moderator for indiana-discuss.

In my view, the usefulness of this list was eclipsed when Sun renamed
the project known as "Indiana" got a formal distribution named
OpenSolaris.  Oracle's recent decision to discontinue the OpenSolaris
distribution in favor of Oracle Solaris 11 Express (forgive me if I
butchered the official name) further speaks to the notion that the
indiana-discuss list has outlived its usefulness.

As I write this message, there have been no messages to
indiana-discuss in August.  In that same time there have been 22 spam
messages that were not caught by automatic spam detection, requiring
manual action by a moderator to stop getting nag mail.

July was a bit more active, with one thread asking where the MIA
update to the OpenSolaris distro was, one unanswered plea for help,
and three threads spawned by announcements by Alan Coopersmith.  The
spam to the moderators outnumbered these legitimate messages in July
as well.

http://mail.opensolaris.org&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Mike Gerdts</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2010-08-26T00:48:51</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.solaris.opensolaris.indiana/14374">
    <title>IPS distro-import changes needed for X packagesfor nv_145</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.solaris.opensolaris.indiana/14374</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Just when you thought you'd never see another one of these biweekly mails....

These changes in the X packages in Nevada build 145 will need updates to the IPS
distro-import package definitions for those packages.   (This is an early heads
up - the list is subject to change if any issues are found in pre-integration
testing.)

As usual, this only lists the changes that need distro-import changes,
the full list of X changes in these builds can be seen at:
http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Community+Group+x_win/changelogs-nv_140#HBuild145

6939384 X delivered SMF manifests should be relocated to /lib/svc/manifest

144/i386/driver:graphics:nvidia currently contains:
   depend_path /var/svc/manifest/application/opengl/ogl-select.xml

If pkg RFE 9739 is fixed before 145 closes, this should change to
   depend_fmri svc:/application/opengl/ogl-select

otherwise, it should change to
   depend_path /lib/svc/manifest/application/opengl/ogl-select.xml

The only other package I see that listed that depend_path in dist&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Alan Coopersmith</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2010-07-21T01:10:46</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.solaris.opensolaris.indiana/14372">
    <title>Heads Up: X conversion to IPS / packagerefactoring</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.solaris.opensolaris.indiana/14372</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;[I know that for external users this isn't very useful while /dev is
 frozen, though at least one person outside Oracle has built our 144
 repo so it is possible to start testing these now if you build them
 yourself.   I could post the repo snapshot we delivered to build 144,
 but it was built on snv_142 so contains dependencies on ON &amp;amp; SFW
 packages that aren't externally available, so wouldn't be installable.]

Starting with build snv_144, the X consolidation has converted from
building packages in SVR4 format (which the IPS team &amp;amp; WOS RE then
converted to IPS) to building directly in IPS format.

At the same time, we have refactored our packages to better match
functional groups, follow upstream source boundaries from the X11R7
modularization, and better allow sensible minimization.   The archives
of the OpenSolaris.org mailing lists xwin-discuss &amp;amp; pkg-discuss can
provide more insight into the decisions made there.  (Of course, further
changes are possible as we find out what works and what does not.)

F&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Alan Coopersmith</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2010-07-16T01:14:18</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.solaris.opensolaris.indiana/14370">
    <title>IPS distro-import changes needed for X packagesfor nv_144</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.solaris.opensolaris.indiana/14370</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;These changes in the X packages in Nevada build 144 will need updates to the IPS
distro-import package definitions for those packages.

As usual, this only lists the changes that need distro-import changes,
the full list of X changes in these builds can be seen at:
http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Community+Group+x_win/changelogs-nv_140#HBuild144

6941932 X should be able to build IPS packages natively
6964006 X package boundaries are all wrong
6966504 lndir [PSARC/2010/219]
6967081 X package names need adjusting

   See http://cr.opensolaris.org/~alanc/xnv-ips/pkg-gate-v2/
   for the changes I believe are necessary for the above set.

6963906 NVIDIA graphics driver support for OpenGL 4.0 [PSARC/2010/133]

   Information about the version bump &amp;amp; driver aliases additions needed
   has already been sent to David.

&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Alan Coopersmith</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2010-07-09T22:02:16</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.solaris.opensolaris.indiana/14360">
    <title>How is ATI support coming along?</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.solaris.opensolaris.indiana/14360</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi!

After reading a topic dated from 2008 (http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=50145&amp;amp;tstart=0), I felt that by now there would probably be at least a 2D direct acceleration support for ATI cards. However, upon asking around at the IRC a while ago, I found that the current driver was actually software accelerated in nature, leading to poor performance while doing simple tasks such as dragging windows around, or watching videos.

That being then and this being now, I decided to ask again at the IRC to see if any progress had been made. This time they directed me to either wait for a user called "alanc" to pop up in the IRC, or to post here to inquire about the state of support for ATI cards.

I understand that ATI's driver is closed source, and that they have not ported it over to OpenSolaris themselves.

Thanks in advance for any light you guys may be able to shed on the situation!
&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Jonathan Chan</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2010-06-27T02:46:06</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.solaris.opensolaris.indiana/14349">
    <title>So it's second half of 2010.06</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.solaris.opensolaris.indiana/14349</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Ok, this is not to start a flame war, just to hope for news/hints/grapevine, is there any hope to get 2010.06? 

At first I can understand 2010.03 is delayed to accommodate showstopper fixes, but with quite a few builds after b134 as of now, is it really a point to have something like b134a? what are the showstoppers exactly?

Not that I actually wait for 2010.x but I am waiting the day /dev to be thawed..

Ivan.
&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Ivan Wang</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2010-06-18T16:48:55</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.solaris.opensolaris.indiana/14348">
    <title>IPS distro-import changes needed for X packagesfor nv_142</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.solaris.opensolaris.indiana/14348</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;I believe the only changes that should be needed to the IPS distro-import files
for the X packages should be a version bump &amp;amp; driver action update for the
NVIDIA graphics driver package, which I've already forwarded the details for
directly to David.

As usual, this only lists the changes that need distro-import changes,
the full list of X changes in these builds can be seen at:
http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Community+Group+x_win/changelogs-nv_140#HBuild142

(In the former-X-package realm, the xscreensaver packages in JDS also got a
 version bump in 142 to the auspiciously/conveniently numbered version 5.11,
 but you should see those with the JDS consolidation changes.)

&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Alan Coopersmith</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2010-06-12T00:11:44</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.solaris.opensolaris.indiana/14341">
    <title>pkg image-update never completes?</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.solaris.opensolaris.indiana/14341</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;hello all,
on a Sun X4150, i have os2009.06 (b111b) installed. Yesterday, i startrd 
an image-update to b134 (dev repo), and it is not finished after 10 hours!

------------------------------------------------------------
Install Phase                            162016/162016
Update Phase                               1590/1590
PHASE                                          ITEMS
Reading Existing Index                           8/8
Indexing Packages                          1431/1431
Optimizing Index...
PHASE                                          ITEMS
Indexing Packages                          1474/1474



    PID USERNAME  SIZE   RSS STATE  PRI NICE      TIME  CPU PROCESS/NLWP 

   3931 root      520M  513M cpu3    40    0  10:55:01  12% pkg/1
...

me&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;antigone:~$ pfexec truss -p 3931
ioctl(4, ZFS_IOC_SNAPSHOT_LIST_NEXT, 0x08043480) = 0
ioctl(4, ZFS_IOC_SNAPSHOT_LIST_NEXT, 0x08043480) = 0
ioctl(4, ZFS_IOC_OBJSET_STATS, 0x08041FE0)      Err#12 ENOMEM
ioctl(4, ZFS_IOC_OBJSET_STATS, 0x08041FE0)      = 0
ioc&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>solarg</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2010-06-02T05:11:43</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.solaris.opensolaris.indiana/14338">
    <title>Decreasing sense of using dev repository</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.solaris.opensolaris.indiana/14338</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;As we know, the last public update of dev repo was build 134, which was published almost three month ago. Assuming that OpenSolaris still plans (is it?) to follow half year release schedule, the period of dev repo freezing is now comparable to the release period itself. This makes one wonder whether current dev repo release policy makes any sense for general OpenSolaris user base, those outside Oracle inner circle.

While discussions and threads like "problems with snv_14x" pop up here and there, it is frustrating for global OpenSolaris community, since those builds are not available from the repo anyway (unless someone likes always to use sources as a starting point). While those within Oracle refer to secrecy and non disclosure issues regarding the upcoming release dates, there is no reason to keep in secret the policy regarding dev repo updates. If the plan is to release updates for some time, and then to freeze the repo for more than a half of release period - let it be clearly specified somewhere for th&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Hillel Lubman</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2010-05-30T17:40:51</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.solaris.opensolaris.indiana/14336">
    <title>Should new fonts be targeting contrib?</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.solaris.opensolaris.indiana/14336</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;I'm sure we'll have users that will want to use these new open source
Scientific, Technical, and Medical publishing fonts:
   http://www.aip.org/press_release/stixfonts_v1.0_released.html

and there's already several other requested open source font packages
filed in bugzilla/bugster - but since we're just packaging files and
not making any change or adding any value with our process overhead,
should we be driving fonts like this towards /contrib instead of trying
to add to a core consolidation like X or G11n?

Obviously we have to have a core set of fonts distributed in the WOS,
but not all of them.

&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Alan Coopersmith</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2010-05-30T05:45:23</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.solaris.opensolaris.indiana/14333">
    <title>IPS distro-import changes needed for X packagesfor nv_141</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.solaris.opensolaris.indiana/14333</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;The only changes that should be needed to the IPS distro-import files for
the X packages should be a couple of version bumps for:

  * 6902956 Fontconfig version 2.8.0 [PSARC/2010/162]
pkg:/system/library/fontconfig
pkg:/system/library/fontconfig/documentation

  * 6954535 Update Xorg from 1.7.6 to 1.7.7
pkg:/x11/server/xorg

As usual, this only lists the changes that need distro-import changes,
the full list of X changes in these builds can be seen at:
http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Community+Group+x_win/changelogs-nv_140#HBuild141

&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Alan Coopersmith</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2010-05-29T00:08:47</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.solaris.opensolaris.indiana/14324">
    <title>OpenSolaris and AMD opteron support</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.solaris.opensolaris.indiana/14324</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Will OpenSolaris support AMD Opterons? That is, anybody know of commits on Opensolaris source on the newer Opterons?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/27/oracle_spikes_opterons/

Looking at http://src.opensolaris.org/source/xref/onnv/onnv-gate/usr/src/cmd/hwdata/pci.ids it doesn't show. But the Intel Core i7's and Nehalem EX (7500's) seem to be supported, newer than the Opterons in the tree. Where else would the support appear in the tree?

Thanks
&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Amit Kulkarni</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2010-05-27T21:11:32</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.solaris.opensolaris.indiana/14306">
    <title>No IPS distro-import changes needed for Xpackages for nv_140</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.solaris.opensolaris.indiana/14306</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;No changes in the X packages in Nevada build 140 should need updates to the IPS
distro-import package definitions for those packages.

As usual, the full list of X changes in this build can be seen at:
http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Community+Group+x_win/changelogs-nv_140#HBuild140

-alan-
&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Alan Coopersmith</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2010-05-18T15:03:36</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.solaris.opensolaris.indiana/14304">
    <title>How to create a binary distribution</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.solaris.opensolaris.indiana/14304</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi All,

I am new to OpenSolaris and i am still learning.

For studying purpose, I am trying to build the kernel from sources using b111b tree. All the steps completed as mentioned in the building procedure. But I am still not able to understand how to create a distribution? Can someone help me how to create distribution package of kernel after building procedure completed.

Thanks!
Regards,
Adil
&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Adil Mujeeb</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2010-05-18T06:26:13</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.solaris.opensolaris.indiana/14296">
    <title>Apologies to all: I fell in Mr. "Dave Johnson"'strap twice __/__ Re: [osol-discuss] Slap the troll... / was:Re: This is how Oracle treats open communities and projects.Will OGB intervene?</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.solaris.opensolaris.indiana/14296</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;***  Apologies to all  ***

...  that I fell in Mr. "Dave Johnson"'s traps twice.
Recently I didn't have much time for OpenSolaris.
I did not back-check "Dave Johnson"'s claims sufficiently enough.

Sorry!



%martin bochnig



On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 5:02 PM, Roland Mainz &amp;lt;roland.mainz-QtDJSZoAcjhAfugRpC6u6w&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;public.gmane.org&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Martin Bochnig</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2010-05-11T14:20:12</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.solaris.opensolaris.indiana/14295">
    <title>Slap the troll... / was: Re: [osol-discuss] Thisis how Oracle treats open communities and projects. Will OGBintervene?</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.solaris.opensolaris.indiana/14295</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 3:15 PM, Dave Johnson
&amp;lt;dave.johnson.inquest-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;public.gmane.org&amp;gt; wrote:
[snip]

Nice attempt, unfortunately (for you) the ARC emails are being archived.

John Sonnenschein's original posting can be found at
http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/opensolaris-arc/2009-December/019530.html
(and I and many others archive the emails at home, too) and differs a
lot from the "proof" you've posted.
The diff between his and your email looks like this:
&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Roland Mainz</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2010-05-11T14:02:13</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.solaris.opensolaris.indiana/14270">
    <title>next release status</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.solaris.opensolaris.indiana/14270</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Greetings

I have to ask about next official OpenSolaris release.
Could project leaders post ( like weekly based ) some status information ?

There is no clear information where OpenSolaris now stands and how it progress.

Personally this is important as i'm currently having a risk losing data with known zfs bugs ( old dev builds ) and waiting next official release to come out to get personal server back into full use. 
I do not like to start process to reinstall everything from scratch and invest temporary storage to that process... But if this is only way to get server back to use, have to reconsider what Operating System then use ....

So could indiana project share some information about progress ?
&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>homerun</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2010-05-10T09:44:04</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.solaris.opensolaris.indiana/14259">
    <title>Updating dev repo with recent builds whilerelease is pending</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.solaris.opensolaris.indiana/14259</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;It was noted, that delays in updating dev repo with most recent builds during a pending release are caused by concerns related to potential update to the release branch by some users, and QA focus: http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/message.jspa?messageID=478636#478636

May be it is possible to enable an alternative temporary and publicly available repository, which will contain most recent development builds while the release is still pending, so those who are not planning to use a release branch later can use the most up to date build without delays? Is it just a technical obstacle, or there are some bureaucratic reasons not to do so?

Thanks.

Hillel.
&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Hillel Lubman</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2010-05-06T20:48:55</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.solaris.opensolaris.indiana/14246">
    <title>image-update doesn't work anymore (bootfs notsupported on EFI)</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.solaris.opensolaris.indiana/14246</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;A few days ago I wanted to update my MacBook Pro from b134 to b137 (from
the internal repository) and I got an error like:

pkg: unable to activate opensolaris-137

After asking some questions in #opensolaris (thanks for your help) I
noticed that this is EFI related.

Just for a test I booted back to my older b133 image and tried to
reinstall b134 and I get the same error now:

root&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;macbook:~# BE_PRINT_ERR=true pkg image-update
                                               

DOWNLOAD                                  PKGS       FILES    XFER (MB)
Completed                              670/670 10670/10670  230.2/230.2 

be_get_uuid: failed to get uuid property from BE root dataset user properties.
PHASE                                        ACTIONS
Removal Phase                              4881/4881 
Install Phase                              5160/5160 
Update Phase                             18959/18959 
set_bootfs: failed to set bootfs property for pool rpool: property 'bootfs' not supported on EFI label&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Christian Thalinger</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2010-05-01T08:58:11</dc:date>
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    <title>IPS distro-import changes needed for X packagesfor nv_139</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.solaris.opensolaris.indiana/14245</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;No changes in the core X packages in Nevada build 139 will need updates to
the IPS distro-import package definitions for those packages.   However,
John Martin has provided updates to the nvidia-graphics manifest which
have been forwarded to David already.

As usual, this only lists the changes that need distro-import changes,
the full list of X changes in these builds can be seen at:
http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Community+Group+x_win/changelogs-nv_130#HBuild139

&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Alan Coopersmith</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2010-05-01T00:37:32</dc:date>
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    <title>pam_list and pam_sm_authenticate errors - console login opensolaris 2009.06</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.solaris.opensolaris.indiana/14240</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Dear All,

Having enabled pam_list in /etc/pam.conf I can then happily control who can log on via ssh and that works fine.

HOWEVER, once pam_list is included in /etc/pam.conf then console logins ALL fail with messages
such as

********************************************************************************************
Apr 30 11:32:55 phoenix login: [ID 825731 auth.error] dlsym failed pam_sm_authenticate: error ld.so.1: login: fatal: pam_sm_authenticate: can't find symbol
********************************************************************************************

Google locates various other people reporting this sort of problem, but I can't spot any obvious solutions.

To provide a bit extra input, I tried running   nm   on a selection of pam libraries.

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root&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;phoenix:/var/log# nm /usr/lib/security/pam_dial_auth.so.1 | grep pam_sm_authenticate
[58]    |      2524|      1172|FUNC |GLOB |0    |12     |pam_sm_authenticate
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    <dc:creator>Dave Price</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2010-04-30T11:10:53</dc:date>
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