http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.os.plan9.general hourly 1 1901-01-01T00:00+00:00 http://gmane.org/img/gmane-25t.png http://gmane.org http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.plan9.general/66348 <pre>hi list, it seems p9p sed has line lenght limit at about 1024 bytes. however, instead of crashing and burning, or returning some error, it just happily spews truncated output. i've just been bitten by it :D </pre> dexen deVries 2012-05-25T07:49:56 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.plan9.general/66345 <pre>yesterday. anth_x discovered that test -w on directory always returns false even tho the directory is writable. test works by calling access(AWRITE) on the file which tries a open(OWRITE) on the directory. this always fails because you can't open directory for writing. some rc scripts seem to assume that test -w should work on directories. examples are /rc/bin/lp which tests for /tmp being writable. another is /rc/bin/juke that tests on /mnt/juke. i dont know if there are other programs that use access() to test on directory writability. (i guess not) its hard for access() to figure out effective directory writability except by trying to create a file in the dir (very bad idea). (is access() allowed to return false positives but no false negatives?) its not clear to me from the manpage that access() is expected to work on directories. access bug? is test at fault here? did it work once? are these rc scripts that use test -w on directories bogus? suggestions? :) -- cinap </pre> cinap_lenrek< at >gmx.de 2012-05-25T04:07:04 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.plan9.general/66344 <pre>I'm trying to add a restart feature to my modified rio by calling exec on a saved argv[0] and copy of argv that has been null terminated, but it crashes every time. Is there something about exec on plan9 that I should be aware of that's different than unix? -- Burton Samograd </pre> Burton Samograd 2012-05-25T03:01:49 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.plan9.general/66343 <pre>Is there a simple recipe to use p9p troff to format the manual pages from the plan 9 dist? I.e.: Install Plan 9 Ports wget plan9.iso from bell labs mount said iso /some/where 9 rc cd /some/where/sys/man # magic stuff here (Or tar off the dist to regular files where things are writable.) Thanks! Arnold </pre> Aharon Robbins 2012-05-24T19:03:25 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.plan9.general/66338 <pre>From: Anthony Sorace &lt;a&lt; at &gt;9sr...&gt; Subject: Governance question??? Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 12:08:44 -0400 I wrote a couple of emails to a&lt; at &gt;9srv.net but never got a reply ... did I misunderstand what seemed to me to be an invitation, or did my email or the reply get treated as spam, or have I failed the silent screening? &gt; 9srv.net (which I run) provides public accounts for interested folks. &gt; See the wiki for instructions on making a request. It's not as &gt; well-developed as tip9ug was, and we've got about a dozen users (same &gt; caveat as above), but it's growing. I would like to do something like &gt; tip9ug's faces page, but haven't gotten there yet. &gt; Anthony </pre> John Francis Lee 2012-05-24T08:31:08 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.plan9.general/66337 <pre>I've made a few tweaks to the paravirtualised plan 9 kernel in /n/sources/xen/xen3 to make it compatible with the xen environment used in amazon's "elastic compute cloud". There's an example public AMI (in zone eu-west-1) named ami-03c9f377 which can be used to instantiate a cpu server with fossil on a 1GB "elastic block storage" volume. This fits within the free usage tier which you get for the first 12 months after creating an amazon web services account. When first launched, your server will start with authid = ec2, authdom and sysname equal to the ec2 instance id, and a randomly generated password which will be echoed to the system console, where it can be retrieved - only by the instance's owner - using the Get System Log function of the aws web interface. (Be patient; there is often a delay of some minutes after launching an instance before the console log becomes available.) Alternatively, if the "user data" field, which you can create as part of launching an ec2 instance, contains a shell script</pre> Richard Miller 2012-05-24T07:47:42 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.plan9.general/66331 <pre>i posted before i got to the end of the thad, i apologise for the noise. -Steve </pre> steve 2012-05-21T20:31:04 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.plan9.general/66307 <pre>I have no idea how, but my /tmp disappeared, making editing files with sam impossible. I tried to bind -c $home/tmp /tmp but i get the complaint that the mounted directory doesn't allow creation. Any advice? -- Burton Samograd </pre> Burton Samograd 2012-05-20T16:56:11 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.plan9.general/66304 <pre>I had hg complaining about the owner of the system wide hgrc on 9front so I did what I thought was most obvious and tried a chown of the file. No chown. So I did a google and found that plan9 doesn't have chown or anything like chown because that concept doesn't exist on plan9. This seems a bit funny since an ls -l shows me file owners and groups. I got around not having chown by copying the file and then moving it over the original file. Could somebody explain to me why there is no concept of chown on plan9 and what is the plan9 way around changing the owners and groups of files? Thanks. -- Burton Samograd </pre> Burton Samograd 2012-05-20T14:43:05 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.plan9.general/66282 <pre>Hi nemo, You are doing server side work now, I got. I wondered for a time how to show octopus.img on my terminal's olive window. Now, I got it. The octopus.img is Plan9 format image originally sitts in the /usr/octopus/port/live. I copied this to /lib/o/octopus.img, alos to $home After olive comes up, I issued the following series of commands on a olive directory panel. (1) !mkdir /mnt/ui/appl/image:logo (2) !cp /usr/okamoto/octopus.img /mnt/ui/appl/image:logo/data (3) !echo copyto /main/row:stats &gt; /mnt/ui/appl/image:logo/ctl Yes, the octopus image was shown on the top row, the second colomun, right of "New" panel. It's ok, however, why we need the third line? Another one(not serious to me): After copying octopus.img to /lib/o, the octopus image is shown quickly in the center of olive window only just begining moment. Is this your expected behaviour? Sorry, you are now working on a server side, this is client side matter. Kenji </pre> kokamoto< at >hera.eonet.ne.jp 2012-05-19T04:53:28 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.plan9.general/66280 <pre>The features list of 9front has the subject line. How in development is it, and could anybody give a documentation/HOWTO on getting it working (if it does)? -- Burton Samograd </pre> Burton Samograd 2012-05-19T03:50:56 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.plan9.general/66232 <pre>People are saying that the Wavelan PC24E-H-FC is working with plan9. I found a Lucient Ornico PC24E-H-FC-WIFI. Any idea if this will work? -- Burton Samograd </pre> Burton Samograd 2012-05-17T13:22:14 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.plan9.general/66224 <pre>i've removed the `Look' command from Acme's tag, as i found no use for it. anything i'm missing? </pre> dexen deVries 2012-05-17T08:55:39 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.plan9.general/66175 <pre>I got my Thinkpad T61 last night and installation was somewhat successful but not without problems: - the main thing was to set the SATA controller to 'Compatibility' mode. 9front would find the disk and install correctly but would get stuck after the pbs if this was not set. The bell labs iso would boot but not find the disk leading to some confusion when I didn't notice it was trying to partition the install CD during installation - after setting to Compatibility mode the Bell Labs iso install would go along well until it was trying to copydist which then was either completely failing or going incredibly slow; I waited at least 15 minutes during this process and it was at around 3% before I gave up. The cd would spin up and down but it really didn't seem to be copying anything at all or at least nothing very quickly. - the middle mouse button doesn't work when using ps2intellimouse or ps2 - graphics works great at native 1280x800x16 resolution - wired networking works good So, in the e</pre> Burton Samograd 2012-05-16T12:24:27 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.plan9.general/66147 <pre> can you specify which one you're addressing? not sure which point this addresses. 9front does not require organizational affiliation, for the record. </pre> Kurt H Maier 2012-05-15T15:13:50 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.plan9.general/66145 <pre>Hi, After finding this http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7034/6838421761_9c02a4da0b_o.png i became very much interested in plan9 and installed it right away. But my excitement disappeared as soon as i did 'cat /lib/meinkampf'. nein% cat /lib/meinkampf NEIN! can't open /lib/meinkampf : No such file or directory i wonder why such an (important) non-existing feature is falsely advertised . Though other cool features (factotum, 9p , secstore ,namespace etc) certainly make plan9 so appealing , i would like to request to include this feature in the official distribution. May it a feature to be included in plan9 5th ed. or just due to inherent plan neinness property ? It would be really appreciated if anyone can clear this up . (i also tried 9front fork and 9legacy patches but no success. :( ) Thanks. </pre> Jiten Pathy 2012-05-15T15:04:24 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.plan9.general/66111 <pre>I'm currently stuck with gmail and you can't login to google using readweb. Is there any way to read gmail from plan9? Over SSL imap maybe? I searched for imapfs but came up with nothing. -- Burton Samograd </pre> Burton Samograd 2012-05-15T02:51:08 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.plan9.general/66094 <pre>As far as I can see, current libmp doesn't have a funcion for taking integer square roots. Do anybody have a one to share? </pre> Yaroslav 2012-05-14T12:08:27 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.plan9.general/66081 <pre>I am currently looking into Plan 9's governance as part of a project and was asked this question: does Plan 9 have a Benevolent dictator for life (B.D.L) similar to python's Guido van Rossum? I can't seem to find any one other than the four original authors of the system. Would I be wrong in saying there are four dictators? </pre> IainWS 2012-05-14T10:14:17 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.plan9.general/66069 <pre>Hello I just installed 9front onto the second partition of my main SSD drive and when I boot using grub with 'chainloader +1' I get a PBS check which looks to pass and then the message 'no fat'. I am thinking that my installation might be out of sector range on the drive; I installed on the second primary partition after a 50ish gig first parition. Does that sound like it's my problem? If not, any other ideas? Here's what's in my grub.cfg which I got from another posting on 9fans: menuentry "Plan9 (9front)" { insmod chain insmod fat16 set root=(hd0,msdos2) chainloader +1 } I got the (hd0,msdos2) from using the grub command line completion. I've never seen that format before so I'm thinking it's new, but then again I haven't played with grub for a while. -- Burton Samograd </pre> Burton Samograd 2012-05-13T21:07:26 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.plan9.general/66066 <pre>Hello, I found the annoucement for Shiva plug support (http://marc.info/?l=9fans&amp;m=125849399830547&amp;w=2) and I was wondering what progress has been made with the port. I looked in /sys/src/9/kw and it looks like there has been more recent development, but could someone give me a quick summary of what has been accomplished. Also, would this port work on the GuruPlug Server (http://marc.info/?l=9fans&amp;m=125849399830547&amp;w=2)? I looks like it has almost the exact same hardware as the Shiva. I'd just like to know the port status before I purchase one for use with Plan9. Thanks. -- Burton Samograd </pre> Burton Samograd 2012-05-13T15:42:05 Search the mailing list at Gmane query http://search.gmane.org/?group=$group=gmane.os.plan9.general