http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.os.inferno.general hourly 1 1901-01-01T00:00+00:00 http://gmane.org/img/gmane-25t.png http://gmane.org http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.inferno.general/3908 After someone in #9fans prompted me to notice that my file simply got truncated, I've now got emu running on the Linux/arm-based Nokia N800. The Inferno side just worked with a current inferno-os checkout; the hard part was working with the Linux cross-development environment Nokia uses (scratchbox) and getting X libraries and headers in the right places. The next hurdle is the fact that the default UI is all Gtk, specifically something called Hildon. Has anyone done anything to make inferno/wm play nicely with these types of toolkits? In particular, it'd be nice to get their pseudo-keyboard text input method. Lacking that, I'm going to just try and convince it to go full-screen and use wm/keyboard, but I'm not sure how tight a hold the Gtk-based stuff has on the screen. I'll let you know if I get any good results. Anthony Anthony Sorace 2008-05-15T17:57:25 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.inferno.general/3902 Hi, I just managed to install inferno on FreeBSD 7.0. I was wondering if there is a way to enable mouse wheel scrolling in wm's windows (charon - in particular). Thanks in advance. Alpinweis 2008-05-14T07:48:45 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.inferno.general/3889 Hi everyone, I noticed VitaNuova only offers printed manuals for the third edition of Inferno. Is the information in those manuals identical to that in the man pages of that edition, or is there additional information in the printed manuals? Are the manuals of that third edition still very useful, as we are at the fourth edition? Paul. _________________________________________________________________ With Windows Live for mobile, your contacts travel with you. http://www.windowslive.com/mobile/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_mobile_052008 Paul Winter 2008-05-08T08:13:18 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.inferno.general/3887 I have a couple of Brightstar ipengine boards that I have been trying Inferno on. The supplied Inferno port boots and runs just fine via tftp with the ipengine's bootloader. I would like to get the Inferno image to boot from flash rather than tftp, but so far no success. I can load the image into flash but get errors/traps when I run it. Can anyone tell me if the ipengine port has ever been able to boot from flash, or is that just not implemented? Thanks, Dylan Saunders Dylan Saunders 2008-05-07T20:24:46 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.inferno.general/3884 I've been running inferno native in VmWare fusion. I am using our plan 9 environment PXE boot it which works well. I noticed that my laptop, an apple MacBook Pro, was overheating when running the inferno guest. I've seen this once behavior once before where the OS I was playing with lacked the cpu HLT instruction in the idle process. Is this missing form the native inferno kernel? If so is it intentional? Ian Michaelian Ennis 2008-05-07T12:53:36 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.inferno.general/3883 Hi, there's a new octopus distribution at http://lsub.org/ls/octopus.html It can be used, for example, as a way to use a remote Plan 9 machine using any other system as a terminal. The main tar ball includes Inferno with a pre-installed octopus and a installation script so that it should be trivial to install and use it. A tutorial can be found linked from the url above. Programs included like omero, olive, oxport, etc. may be used without using the rest of the octopus. Also, a set of Plan 9 programs for use with the octopus are available as a separate tar ball from the same url. This includes mouse redirectors among other things. Enjoy Fco. J. Ballesteros 2008-04-30T12:54:03 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.inferno.general/3873 Hi, anyone happens to have a recent emu binary built from google code for Linux and/or windows? I dont have linux and windows machines at hand and would like to avoid having to install one just to build emu. thanks a lot in any case. Francisco J Ballesteros 2008-04-29T16:49:44 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.inferno.general/3869 Just out of interest, does anyone here remember what Edition of Inferno the VPN Firewall Brick uses? Is it a custom config, or mostly stock? Thanks! Benjamin Huntsman 2008-04-24T18:38:27 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.inferno.general/3864 Perhaps this has been asked before, but I couldn't find it for sure: 1. For the official builds from Vita Nuova, what compilers are used? Best I can tell, VS6. 2. Has anyone successfully compiled hosted Inferno under VS 2005 or 2008? 3. I'm trying to build the 20080416 version from Google Code under VS 2005 + Win2003R2 SDK on WinXP. I'm having pretty good luck, but am stuck while building emu. I had to rebuild rcsh, but after that, here's the last few lines of output: rcsh ../port/mkroot emu mk: don't know how to make 'dev' mk: echo '< at >{builtin cd' ... : exit status=exit(1) mk: for (j in ... : exit status=exit(1) Anyone know why it wouldn't "know how to make dev"? The build process works just fine on my MacOSX system... Thanks all in advance! -Ben Benjamin Huntsman 2008-04-21T21:30:16 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.inferno.general/3861 code.google.com is down. Patch is attached Nikolai Saoukh 2008-04-16T08:08:59 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.inferno.general/3857 Hi, We're using a cmdfs to execute host commands in a shared name space under inferno. However, wouldn't it be better to remove RFNAMEG in the rfork at cmd.c for Plan 9? If we do so, we can always fork the ns (perhaps via a forkns ctl), but it's not feasible to do it the other way around (i.e., to get a shared ns for host commands if all of them are RFNAMEGing). Also, this is more consistent wrt behaviour of /cmd on UNIX, where mounts you execute via /cmd are seen by other commands. So, would this be a problem? thanks Francisco J Ballesteros 2008-04-08T16:06:54 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.inferno.general/3835 I read that instruction. https://umdrive.memphis.edu/blstuart/htdocs/msvc8.html 1. I installed Visual C++ 2008 Express Edition. 2. I installed Windows SDK for Windows Server 2008 and .NET Framework 3.5. 3. What does exact mean in next step "Add the newly installed directories to the environment variables." I haven't still known. Is it "Control Panel->System-> Advanced Tab-> Environment Variables"? 4. For next step I ran command prompt. (Start menu->Programs->Microsoft Windows SDK v6.1->CMD Shell). 5. I went to Inferno directory and I was trying to compile emu. * cd c:\Inferno\emu\Nt\ * nmake mkfile. But command prompt shows some errors. I edited mkfile, but it was vainly. Is it a wrong way? =========================================== SYSTARG=Nt OBJTYPE=386 #uncomment following line for full Microsoft debug symbols #LDEBUG=-debug -debugtype:cv -pdb:none <c:/inferno/mkconfig SYSTARG=Nt OBJTYPE=386 #Configurable parameters CONF=emu #default configuration CONFLIST=emu CLEANCONFLIST= INSTALLDIR=$ROOT/$SYSTA nevidomsky nevidomsky 2008-04-01T10:53:05 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.inferno.general/3832 I've got a Linux/MIPS32 here and I'm thinking about building emu for it. I would like to know how difficult it would be to compile. Do I only have to write a special mkfile-Linux-mips, or is there more, which i just don't see yet? hiro 2008-04-01T03:11:59 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.inferno.general/3828 On which platforms does hosted Inferno have a working audio device? hiro 2008-03-30T23:33:28 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.inferno.general/3823 Thought you guys might be interested. ------------------------ Kind of neat... clearly needs a little work, but it runs on real hardware :-) I was so excited I dropped my camera! http://homepage.mac.com/leimy2k/Inferno-ds-3-26-2008.MOV Dave David Leimbach 2008-03-26T23:54:42 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.inferno.general/3822 Hi, I'm seeing something I don't understand while doing a memory profile of a program: io.b:17262652262728n := sys->read(fd, buf[nr:], nb-nr); It seems that this line is responsible for 262k (in use), however, this is just reading into a slice. Something similar seem to happen to some lines that allocate file descriptors that are out of scope (allocated within a function, then the function returns after reading something). mprof says such lines still hold some memory, but I don't see how they could. Most of the memory seems to come from the main pool. This is on macos, using this version Inferno Fourth Edition (20070901) main (pid=20503) interp Anyone else saw something similar or can tell me what I'm missing? thanks a lot Francisco J Ballesteros 2008-03-20T23:39:32 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.inferno.general/3819 Hi, Apparently somebody was thinking that 1 second was only worth 100.000microseconds... ;-) Here's a diff to fix that: Index: appl/cmd/ip/sntp.b =================================================================== --- appl/cmd/ip/sntp.b (revision 270) +++ appl/cmd/ip/sntp.b (working copy) < at >< at > -60,7 +60,7 < at >< at > ServerMode: con 4; Epoch: con big 86400*big (365*70 + 17); # seconds between 1 Jan 1900 and 1 Jan 1970 -Microsec: con big 100000; +Microsec: con big 1000000; server := "$ntp"; stderr: ref Sys->FD; On a side note... Is there really NO WAY to build the system outside the root tree ? I think it really annoying to have the runtime binaries polluted by source and build files. But who else cares ? Cheers, Thierry Thierry Deval 2008-03-19T11:01:24 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.inferno.general/3817 How exactly do we change out subscription setup? I'd like to have mine moved to the account gmcgrath815subs-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w< at >public.gmane.org Garrett McGrath 2008-03-18T22:09:39 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.inferno.general/3816 (ok, analysis is probably wrong wording. anyway.) I looked at the problems I had with :, and :., on acme-sac os-x. one of the things that happens with single-click b3 actions is that the selection is expanded, using character classes allowed for file name part, regular expression, or address part. to my surprise there is a difference in the list of characters allowed by isaddrc (in regx.b) in inferno acme compared with corresponding isaddrc in plan9/p9p acme (in addr.c). p9p and plan9 allow: 0123456789+-/$.#,; inferno/acme-sac allow: 0123456789+-/$.# to me this explains why acme-sac refuses to match :, but I don't understand why/how it does/could work on other platforms - but I did not take the time to look at what happens there. I added ,; to the list of characters allowed. that makes the :, idiom work. Furthermore there is some interesting interplay with the plumber that on acme-sac osx seems to match more than the plan9/p9p plumber do. I saw that since the :, problem was mentioned already some Axel Belinfante 2008-03-18T14:26:04 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.inferno.general/3809 aon.912189943.2-Tswl7xcH0yE< at >public.gmane.org 2008-03-17T17:39:23 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.inferno.general/3808 Dear List, I am currently copying media files to a plan9 fileserver. I am using inferno as "backup"-Tool which mounts the 9p fs on the plan9 machine and the host fs locally. Now I have some files that contain some german umlauts which obviously aren't converted to utf8 during the import of inferno. The symptoms are: cp: can't stat Henry-David-Thoreau - Â<80>ber die Pflicht zum Ungehorsam gegen den Staat: 'Henry-David-Thoreau - Â<80>ber die Pflicht zum U ngehorsam gegen den Staat' file does not exist. Now this is obviously garbage. Neither is it correct utf8 nor the correct codepage entry. I suspect in the past the file has had a utf8 encoded name and got copied to the fs which did not support utf8... As I now that the names are garbled I don't blame inferno. What I don't understand is why I cannot copy them as they are? I cannot even rename them appropriately in inferno. Is there a way to do so? Kind regards, Christian Christian Kellermann 2008-03-16T13:16:25 Search the mailing list at Gmane query http://search.gmane.org/?group=$group=gmane.os.inferno.general