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[Wikitech-l] FlaggedRevs status/news?

Dovi Jacobs — 2008-12-01T04:01:30

Hi, we've entered December. Has my worry has come true, namely that interim discussion of localization would send the request to never-never land? It would be great if he.wikisource could be implemented :-) In general, for those who are interested in the topic, information on the implementation of Flagged Reviews may be found at this page: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FlaggedRevs In my opinion, priority should be given to custom implementation at as many wikis as possible. Only in this way can its long-term effectiveness be tested. Great resources were rightfully invested in creating this extension, which is (in my opinion) an essential part of the functionality of a wiki environment. It is also, on a cultural level, a necessary tool for improving public attitudes about the reliability of wiki projects. (The latter reason is, especially, the reason we want it on he.wikisource. Only with a function like this can we convince certain organizations to make their texts open-content, by guaranteeing that an

List summaries

phoebe ayers — 2008-12-01T02:24:27

New mailing list summaries: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/LSS/foundation-l-archives/2008_November_16-30 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/LSS/wikiEN-l-archives/2008_11_16-30 (I won't do this every time one is posted, but just in case people missed the last note about the list summary service reboot...) Also, a question: would weekly summaries be more useful? I'm thinking of going back to that instead of biweekly. Any other suggestions? Effeietsanders suggested icons for particularly extensive discussions. I'm thinking this one for particularly controversial topics: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Nuvola_apps_core.png ;) best,

80% of our projects are failing

Gerard Meijssen — 2008-11-30T20:43:11

Hoi, Regularly I hear people say that Wikipedia is failing. When you then listen, there are all kinds of good reasons why Wikipedia is failing. Quality is low, issues with living persons, pov pushers a long litany of woes are all grounds to predict the imminent demise of Wikipedia. While all these issues may be grounds for concern, it is hardly indicative of failure. To me they are indicative of a wildly successful project coping with everything that is a consequence of success. I am of the opinion that most of our projects would love to have the same problems, the same issues, the same success as the few project that do well. For most of our projects a lack of content, a lack of community ensure that the project is irrelevant. No growth, no interest is more killing then all the woes that our big projects suffer from. At Wikimania 2008 a presentation was given by developers from UNICEF who had done proper usability studies. They found that 100% of their newbie testsubjects were not able to create a new arti

EN Wikipedia Editing Statistics

Erik Zachte — 2008-11-30T16:20:49

English -> English dump No worries: in only 176 days from now the English dump will be ready and I can run wikistats scripts on it. It just started 52 days ago, so let us be patient for a while ;) http://www.infodisiac.com/cgi-bin/WikimediaDownload.pl Nice stats though! Erik Zachte _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l-RusutVdil2icGmH+5r0DM0B+6BGkLq7r< at >public.gmane.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

EN Wikipedia Editing Statistics

Erik Zachte — 2008-11-30T16:12:44

Ø Because myself and others have been frustrated by the lack of good Ø stats on the number of active editors on the English Wikipedia, I have Ø compiled some stats on the editing frequency on enwiki: No worries: in only 176 days from now the English will be ready and I can run wikistats scripts on it. It just started 52 days ago, so let us be patient for a while ;) http://www.infodisiac.com/cgi-bin/WikimediaDownload.pl Nice stats though! Erik Zachte _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l-RusutVdil2icGmH+5r0DM0B+6BGkLq7r< at >public.gmane.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

unsubcribe

agung gumilar — 2008-11-29T05:11:36

dear wiki i'm sorry that i decide to unsubcribe from the list _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l-RusutVdil2icGmH+5r0DM0B+6BGkLq7r< at >public.gmane.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

"stumble upon" in wikimedia? citation collection,where researchers want to be included in future?

THURNER rupert — 2008-11-28T14:38:42

hi, a video showing how immune cells eat parasites [1] attracted quite some sites to cite an article about medical visualization [2]. when looking at it i noticed: * that it is published in a cc-2.5 licensed journal * that there is a possibility to enter links from facebook, stumble upon, ... * that there is no link to do make a reference in wiki* would it make sense that a wikimedia page allows referencing such an article? the functions of such a page could be: * enter it in a (not yet existing) references library (bibtex or whatever) * add it to a portal talk page selected by the user (like medicine) * add it to project selected by the user (like wpedia, wversity, ...) imo the advantages would be that on one hand quality may rise through better citations, on the other hand having a citation library where researchers in future want to be and need to be. kr, rupert. refs: [1] (http://www.plospathogens.org/article/fetchFirstRepresentation.action?uri=info:doi/10.1371/journal.ppat.1000222.s013) [2] h

List statistics for Novemeber

Milos Rancic — 2008-11-27T16:51:42

Here are foundation-l list statistics for the end of November. (Sorry for HTML email, it was the only way known to me to format stats well for all.) Statistics are at the bottom. == Good news == * If we get one more new participant at foundation-l, we will at the highest level of new participants per month since April this year. * This is the biggest (relative) raise between October and November at all. This is, also, one of the biggest relative raises in communication between two months at all. * This is the second best November by number of active participants. * At last, we are communicating and the most of discussions are constructive. Lower amount of emails for 10-20% is reasonable if quality of discussion is higher. == Bad news == * This is the second worst November by amount of emails. However, it should be noted that it is much better than the worst one (2004) and that the number of emails will be much closer to the number of better Novembers. * This is the second worst November by amount of new

[Help] About Participate in Wikipedia - knoweldgesharing.

Joanne — 2008-11-27T10:44:21

Dear friends, We are conducting a study on the motivation of the knowledge sharing on Wikipedia. Your experience of the read from and write to Wikipedia is very important to the design and management of this knowledge platform. The survey will take about two minutes. We deeply appreciate your help on answering the following questions. After the survey is done, we will randomly select twenty persons and present them with USB 2GB Flash Drives. Besides, with each valid questionnaire, we will donate US $1 dollar to the Wikimedia Foundation. The result of this survey is analyzed in an anonymous way and is only regarded as the academic use. Please feel free to fill out the questionnaire. Thanks again for your time and valuable input. May happiness and health be with you everyday! ★ On-line Questionnaire: http://140.119.19.152:8080/wiki/ 　 Shari S. C. Shang Eldon Y. Li Professor, Department of Management Information Systems, National Chengchi University Tel.: +886-2-823

Offline Reader

Martin Pascal — 2008-11-27T09:02:09

Dear all, We are working for a new version of Kiwix, the offline reader wich used for http://wikipediaondvd.com/ . This new version don't use a selection of article , is available from the project : wikibooks, wikipedia, wikiquote, wikisource, wiktionary for all the languages. To try : http://download.kiwix.org/install/ just for windows , Mac and linux will be make in a few day. after install you choose downlaod every corpus that you want to consult in offline. All the language is not yet finish. It s a release candidate, so we need what you think about this version. Cordialement Martin Pascal tel : 02 32 40 23 69, fax : 02 32 61 45 26 gsm : 06 13 89 77 32 _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l-RusutVdil2icGmH+5r0DM0B+6BGkLq7r< at >public.gmane.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Regional Conference of Wikimedia Serbia 2008

Nikola Smolenski — 2008-11-26T18:36:32

Hello, Wikimedia Serbia is proud to announce the Regional Conference of Wikimedia Serbia 2008. The Regional Conference of Wikimedia Serbia will be held at 19th, 20th and 21st December in Belgrade, in the Belgrade Youth Home. Depending on the number and locations of participants, we are likely to be able to finance you travel (only from countries near Serbia) and/or accomodation expenses. If you are interested in visiting the conference, please answer to this message with exact information on when can you come and how long can you stay; as well as is there possibility to provide your own accomodations in Belgrade. If you would want to held a lecture, a workshop or similar during the conference, also report that to us so that we could include you in the program. Please forward this message to anyone you believe could come. Bye, Wikimedia Serbia _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l-RusutVdil2icGmH+5r0DM0B+6BGkLq7r< at >public.gmane.org Unsubscribe: ht

Language codes to rename

Brion Vibber — 2008-11-26T01:04:12

For quick background, it's pretty painful to rename a database in our system, and we currently have a lot of bits in our configuration that make automatic relationships between the database name and the domain name, so this has delayed renaming of some language subdomains for a while. It's not impossible to have them be different, just fairly awkward. :) I'd like to get these done soon, but before we get started, I want to make sure the queue is complete and ready to go. I've currently got four language code renames that I see being requested... == Aromanian == roa-rup.wikipedia.org -> rup.wikipedia.org roa-rup.wiktionary.org -> rup.wiktionary.org https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15988 ISO-639-2 code 'rup' was added in September 2005, and can supersede the generic 'roa' code with 'rup' subtag. This seems pretty uncontroversial. Existing domains and interwikis would be redirected. == Low German == nds.wikipedia.org -> nds-de.wikipedia.org nds.wikibooks.org -> nds-de.wikibooks.org nds.w

Site Notices Phase 2 - Annual Fundraiser 2008

Rand Montoya — 2008-11-26T00:19:24

Hey All-- There has been a lot of good feedback on the first set of site notices and we've taken those ideas and, I think, done a pretty good job of implementing fixes across projects and languages. The tech team has done fabulous work. You can see a brief statistical summary of the Phase I notices here: http://blog.wikimedia.org/2008/11/25/wikimedias-fundraiser-which-banners-click/ Please feel free to comment in the blog. We're going to be doing some short term testing of some minor tweaks to the Phase I notices soon. Which brings us to Phase 2. We are trying to juggle two separate concepts in designing the site notices: 1) we want our viewers and visitors to see and understand that their donations are important to the mission of Wikimedia Foundation and 2) we want our visitors to be stimulated into giving without being too disruptive. As such, Phase 2 drafts can be found here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2008/design_drafts. We are attempting to re-define the space in a different man

2008 Annual Fundraiser - Going into Phase 2

Erik Zachte — 2008-11-25T07:58:47

Very neat! Looking at tab 2 (Number of contributions): In 2007 from day 14 and onwards the number of gifts per day more than doubled. Is it known why that happened? Just curious. Erik Zachte _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l-RusutVdil2icGmH+5r0DM0B+6BGkLq7r< at >public.gmane.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Trademarks (Was: A local chapter without Wikimedians)

Thomas Dalton — 2008-11-24T16:04:55

2008/11/24 Michael Bimmler public.gmane.org>: That's an interesting question. What is the current trademark situation for the WMF? A trademarks committee was set up nearly 3 years ago to advise the board on what trademarks to register and where but it seems to have only lasted a few months before disbanding. There is a page on meta ("Wikimedia Trademarks") that was marked as historical over a year ago on which Angela said the details of the trademarks were confidential, but that doesn't sound right - how can a registered trademark be confidential? Doesn't it need to be public knowledge in order to serve a purpose? The main reasons I can see in old discussions for not registering everything and everywhere was that it's expensive and time consuming, but we have a much larger budget now (the discussions say the registration fee is $400 a time for the US, which was a lot of money for the foundation 2 or 3 years ago, it isn't now) and a full time staff (including a general counse

2007 mozilla results: income 75 mio usd,cost 33 mio usd, net assets 80 mio usd

THURNER rupert — 2008-11-24T12:54:41

fyi, the 2007 mozilla results: * income 75 mio usd * cost 33 mio usd * net assets ~80 mio usd * http://blog.lizardwrangler.com/2008/11/19/sustainability-in-uncertain-times/ * audited financial statement: http://www.mozilla.org/foundation/documents/mf-2007-audited-financial-statement.pdf * current staff: http://www.mozilla.org/about/staff interesting is that the irs (the US national tax agency) decided to review the tax status of the funds generated from their deal with google. rupert ------------------------- http://wikimedia.ch/donate - tax deductible support for the wikimedia movement for swiss tax payers _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l-RusutVdil2icGmH+5r0DM0B+6BGkLq7r< at >public.gmane.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

A local chapter without Wikimedians

Luiz Augusto — 2008-11-24T01:14:22

I will try whit my poor enghish report a problem that are in discuss in mailling list of the brazilian chapter[1]. In the end of this text, are the original text in portuguese, for try to minimalize the comunicacion mistakes. Brazil have 8,514,877 km² of extesion and more of 190,000,000 inhabitants, in 26 states[2]. Build a local chapter in Brazil is very complicated. Since 2006, that is the dream of some users, but they never have a significant number of wikimedians living in a same geografic region. In the beging of 2008, ist created a meta-wiki page to centralize the ideias for a local chapter[3]. follow the example of the wikimedians in Portugal[4]. After that, people that never edited in anyone project of wikimedia appears to participate. That people are welcome and beging to work whit the brazilians wikimedians. The time are past, the people interested but whitout free time are gone (exactly like ist happened in every others times that the brazilian local chapter have been discuss by the comunity).

Signal languages Wikimedia projects

Crazy Lover — 2008-11-22T19:24:36

I realise that proposal for a Wikipedia in American Sign Language has remained without a decision since 2007 february 15th, more than a year and half. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_American_Sign_Language_2 Current policy don't say anything about those: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta:Language_proposal_policy But, community draft expressly accept them: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta:Language_proposal_policy/Community_draft What about you, do you think wikimedia, should be deprived of these potential resources? C.m.l. _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l-RusutVdil2icGmH+5r0DM0B+6BGkLq7r< at >public.gmane.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Open Everything Berlin, Saturday 6th December 2008

Jonathan Gray — 2008-11-21T13:59:12

Thought people might be interested to hear about Open Everything Berlin, which will take place on Saturday 6th December 2008. More details at: http://blog.okfn.org/2008/11/21/open-everything-berlin-saturday-6th-december-2008/ Warm regards, Jonathan Gray The Open Knowledge Foundation ---- After the success of Open Everything London a few weeks ago, we're now involved in putting on Open Everything Berlin, which will take place in early December. It will be a great opportunity to meet people interested in open knowledge, open source software, and so on. Details are as follows: * When: Saturday 6th December 2008 * Where: newthinking store, Tucholskystr. 48, Berlin-Mitte (map) * Programme: http://openeverything.mixxt.de/networks/wiki/index.Programm * Registration: Attendance is free! Sign up on the mixxt network! The event will start with a handover from Open Everything Hong Kong and finish with a handover to Open Everything Madison - both of which will also take place on the 6th. In addition to talk

Chapters Committee Rules of Procedure draft update

Michael Bimmler — 2008-11-19T09:23:34

Dear all, the ChapCom has drafted changes to its current Rules of Procedure, as they were quite out of touch with reality (and it seemed less convenient to change reality). The rules as they are in force can be seen at http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Chapters_committee/Rules_of_procedure I'm posting the new draft below, as it is currently only on the private chapcom wiki. Note, to avoid misunderstandings: This is *not* a document (discussed here) for aspiring chapters or other interested parties to see how the chapters approval process works. This here is a rather technical-formal set of rules which legally determine our internal meeting, voting, membership and resolutions procedures. But still, if you have any specific opinions on this, we're interested. In the end, we'll submit it for approval to the board. Regards, Michael ==Rules of Procedure of the Chapters Committee, draft of amended version as of 11/16/08== '''Membership'''
The committee will comprise no fewer than five votin

Why we should use the community draft of thelanguage proposal policy

Leigh Babbage — 2008-11-18T19:07:47

This is my argument (or rather, my quickly hashed out rambling) as to why the community draft for the language proposal policy should become our official policy, in place of the current one. My argument is fairly long, but I hope that it does not descend into irrelevance and that people will read it through to the end. The community draft language proposal policy has the advantage of being, in the Wikimedia spirit, a more collaborative work. The current language proposal policy was made by a small group, but the community draft was, as its name suggests, open to ideas from anyone who had any, and I think that it is a better reflection of the feeling of Wikimedia users than the current one. I want to be very clear that I believe the language proposal system we have now is far better than the one we had before: it is fairer, quicker and more efficient. However, although it is better than the last one, it is not as good as it could be. Some Wikimedia users (and I am certainly part of this group) t