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Hey, I know that guy! (Probably)

reece.arnott — 2013-06-13T07:49:18

http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/digital-living/8773406/Justice-hacker-sparks-police-probe

Summary: Someone alerted Clare Curran (Labour, Dunedin North MP) to "a 
security weakness in the Justice Ministry's computer system" is now under 
investigation by the police, at the request of Justice Minister Judith 
Collins, it seems.

If we assume that the person involved contacted Clare Curran because she 
was their local MP then its a fair bet that this person is on one of the 
lists I'm sending this too. If this is you, HI! (and my condolences on your 
treatment. If I can help out in any way, just get in contact)

The bigger problem that this uncovers though is the 'shoot the messenger' 
reflex that this suggests is within various government departments when it 
comes to exposing security flaws.

How should we go about reporting flaws in our government's technological 
infrastructure - in a way that is safe and responsible but also actually 
gets the flaws fixed?
Is there any mechanism currently in place? Does

Prevent logout if there's stopped jobs ...

Bob Brown - Turboweb — 2013-06-13T00:55:38

Hi,

It drives me nuts when I have a job in the background (normally a 
suspended vim) and I hit Ctrl-D to log out, I'm told that I have stopped 
jobs but another Ctrl-D (purely out of habit) logs me out and kills 
those processes.

Does anyone have a bright idea that would solve this? E.g. I'd like it 
to be able to say "You have stopped jobs - use 'exit -f' to force a 
logout". I use bash.

This is someone else having the same problem: 
http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/40678/can-i-make-there-are-stopped-jobs-harder-to-kill

I don't use screen or tmux but I don't think they would solve the 
problem either.

Cheers,

- Bob -

PayMate configuration. Slightly OT

Philip Charles — 2013-06-12T11:03:20

I have just discovered PayMate and I intend to use it for Copyleft.
Short term I intend to use it for CCard payments on the current site.

My problem is that PayPal requires the customer to re-enter all the info 
s/he has entered on the Copyleft order form.  How do I remove the unwanted 
fields? (and add the return field?)  Either I am dumb or the PayMate site 
is unhelpful.

I will be looking at the shopping basket later.

Phil.

Looking for pci card with 2 serial ports

Smegzor — 2013-06-07T02:10:44

Does anyone have a pci card with 2 serial ports on it that I can 
borrow?  I need it for 1 job and am unlikely to use it again or I would 
just buy one.

Matt

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Debian GNU/Hurd 2013 release

Philip Charles — 2013-05-28T04:47:35

Samuel Thibault <samuel.thibault< at >gnu.org>  has announced the release of 
Debian GNU/Hurd 2013.

The release consist of CDs, DVD, and NETINSTALL  iso's, and a KVM image.
32 bit only.
These are available at 
http://ftp.debian-ports.org/debian-cd/hurd-i386/current/
The release announcement is at
http://www.debian.org/ports/hurd/hurd-news.en.html

Please note that this is a port release and not part of the official 
Debian release.

While Debian GNU/Hurd has a relationship with Linux and the BSDs it is 
significantly different to these os's so take care to read the 
documentation!

The discs burnt from the iso's failed to install on the two machines I 
tried, but it is running nicely with KVM.

Nomenclature.
Debian knows it as Debian GNU/Linux.
It is commonly known as the Hurd, but the kernel is actually gnumach and 
Hurd runs on top of it.
Insiders call it GNU as it was the developing kernel system of GNU until 
Linux pushed it aside. 

Enjoy,

Phil.

Is there a distro pre-configured to install and run as a tor exit node?

Reece Arnott — 2013-05-22T11:19:17

I'm thinking about setting up a spare machine as a tor exit node and 
wondering which distro would be best to use as a base. Is there one 
already set up to run tor as an exit node which just has an install 
wizard or something?

(Or is it something that we should want to make a bit harder to do so 
you have to explicity commit to doing it?)

Power off after a certain time of inactivity in Ubuntu (using the activiation of a screensaver to do it)

Reece Arnott — 2013-05-22T09:38:14

Rob was asking for a way to save power by turning off machines that had 
been inactive for a certain number of hours in Ubuntu.

The key thing to realise is that sensing inactivity is what screensavers 
do so... sudo apt-get install xscreensaver if it isn't already installed 
and do the following:

1) create an executable script file from the text file shown here: 
https://gist.github.com/chrisyco/988104 (this is a wrapper to give you 
the options to suspend, hibernate, restart, or shutdown). This is 
optional if you are only going to ever want to shutdown.

2) Run xscreensaver-demo to create a ~/.xscreensaver prefs file if it 
doesn't already exist.

3) Edit the ~/.xscreensaver file.

The important thing is to insert the following line immediately under 
the line that says "programs:       \":
"Shutdown"     /absolute/path/to/power.sh shutdown \n\

The other options below can either be set while you're editing the file 
anyway, or via the GUI by running xscreensaver-demo:
timeout:    2:00:00 # This is the t

Filadefio's tomorrow (Wed)

Paul Campbell — 2013-05-21T09:34:05

I didn't make it last time - a reminder dunlug meeting tomorrow

Paul

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Copying large files to a thumb drive?

Worik Stanton — 2013-05-17T00:38:00

I have a 32 gig thumb drive that I want to put HD videos on to play on
my TV.  (So far the best way I have found to

All works well except that the 5GB files do not copy happily.  At about
4GB the copy process fails complaining the file is to large, or it fails
silently.

I have tried drag and drop in Nautilus, the cp command and the dd
command.  I was about to use split, cp and cat but if some one has a
reason this is happening it could speed things up remarkably.

I am wondering if another file system might help.  According to mount it
is vfat, the drive I am copying the files from is fuseblk (not sure what
that is).

Any ideas?

cheers
Worik

DNS resolution on local network

Bob Brown — 2013-05-12T08:12:10

Hi,

A little while ago I installed a Debian server and called it "riwaka". It
is a bare bones install - only OpenSSH is installed onto it. I chose DHCP
for the network and it was assigned an IP of 10.1.1.13 on my LAN. It's
wired but it shares the same network space as wireless clients via my Orcon
Genius router.

I noticed on my Ubuntu laptop I could "ping riwaka" and I get a response
from it. On a Windows PC through it can't resolve "riwaka". Both the Ubuntu
and Windows PC's are DHCP-configured.

At first I figured that it was the router doing the name resolution as it
as the DNS server that is specified in the DHCP response but in the router
config it lists DHCP clients of which "riwaka" is notably absent:

10.1.1.2 name=android_b41ab12268964a9a
10.1.1.3 name=android-fafb23eb66e2912b
10.1.1.4 name=GuruBobs-iPod
10.1.1.5 name=android-5b740b7e8555ac05
10.1.1.7 name=toshtop
10.1.1.8 name=
10.1.1.6 name=Loopys-iPod
10.1.1.9 name=squee
10.1.1.10 name=SnOOpS-iPhone
10.1.1.12 name=OPOHOPC
10.1.1.15 name=PAVILION

Debian release tea party

Alex King — 2013-05-04T22:52:22

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I'm having a Debian release tea-party, if you want to chat about Debian
or anything related on a rainy day, come on up and join me at 3pm.

What: Debian release tea-party
Where: 60 Helensburgh Road, Wakari
When: 3-5pm today, Sunday.

RSVP appreciated.

You may know that today is the planned release date when testing
(wheezy) becomes the new stable version (7.0).  Due to our timezone, I
suspect it may not actually be released by 3pm, but we can celebrate
anyway.  If we run out of interesting conversation, we can listen to
National Radio or something (broadband is dodgy so youtube is
disappointing.)

Not much snack food here so bring your own if you want.

Some would say it's short notice, but it's more than 14400 seconds, so I
don't want any complaints :)

Cheers,
Alex

PS. other release parties http://wiki.debian.org/ReleasePartyWheezy
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Free distros for new users

Danyl Strype — 2013-05-02T05:04:44

Kia ora koutou

I've tried a few more distros since Jan. I've been working my way
through the handful of distros endorsed by the FSF, to see if any of
them are usable as a day-to-day desktop OS. some of them are pretty
much useless, or at least so raw that they only usable by confident
GNU/Linux geeks:
http://tinyurl.com/bp3affg

Trisquel is the pick of the bunch so far. I've had a few minor niggles
with it on my netbook, but I'm looking forward to testing it on my
desktop when I get home.

I've also been looking into distros which are built around the
Enlightenment desktop. The only one I've actually tried so far is
Bodhi, which I see as more of a proof-of-concept distro than a
production one at this stage. I do like what I've seen of
Enlightenment so far though, it's leaner than XFCE (which was already
starting to bloat the last time I tried it as well as being ugly and
confusing), and gives LXDE a run for its money in performance and
stability, as well as being prettier than the LXDE distros I've tried
(P

dunlug tonight?

Paul Campbell — 2013-04-24T01:38:17

Anyone going tonight? I went last week and no one showed up ....

Paul

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Restoring apt cache

Worik Stanton — 2013-04-15T22:00:53

My laptop will not boot.  I have been trying to get its HDMI output working
and something awful happened and now it will not boot. Oh dear, how sad, I
can cope. I have my bootable USB stick so can recover.

But I am a long way from a decent internet connection so do not want to
reinstall all my software over the net.  I have managed to burn my
/var/cache/apt onto a DVD (that was not easy) and I would like to know can
I expect to reinstall, which will stomp that cache(?), and copy the
cache/apt into the fresh file system and will those packages be available
to me without having to download again?

It seems to me that it should, but it is the first time I have tried.  I
know my /home directories will endure over reinstalling from my stick, but
the /var hierarchy? And if not I do not know if there is more I need to do
to copy my old packages over.

Since my last install (I reinstalled Ubuntu in the hope HDMI would work
better from there) I have not cleared the cache.

cheers
W
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squid config puzzle

Craig Knights — 2013-04-11T22:33:59

OK,  I'm doing something silly..

I'm trying to time restrict a proxy..

this from my squid.conf

acl BOARDERS_ON_AFTER_SCHOOL time MTWTF 15:30-23:00
acl BOARDERS_ON_BEFORE_SCHOOL time MTWTF 07:00-08:30
acl BOARDERS_ON_WEEKENDS time SA 07:00-23:00


http_access deny !BOARDERS_ON_AFTER_SCHOOL
http_access deny !BOARDERS_ON_BEFORE_SCHOOL
http_access deny !BOARDERS_ON_WEEKENDS

but the proxy still goes... and it shouldn't

where's my logic failing?

hmmm, thanks,
Craig
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Business opportunity - Gore

Allistair Meikle — 2013-04-09T02:32:28

We own a shop that we have had leased out for the last 10 years or so.   
It is a computer shop and the owner will be closing  it down on the 31st 
May, because of ill health and other commitments.

If there is anyone out there who may be interested in this, drop me a 
line.      Cheers   Allistair
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Filadelfio's tomorrow

Paul Campbell — 2013-04-08T09:37:56

Just a reminder tomorrow, Tuesday is Dunlug at Filadelfio's, see you there

Paul

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Adding someone to a group

Geoff Barkman — 2013-04-03T02:46:34

Hi There
If I want to add someone to a group in Ubuntu 12.04 (and most other
linuxes) I type

addgroup geoff audio

To add myself to the audio group.

Now if in a terminal I type "groups", it shows up the groups I am in... but
not the new group until I log out and back in again... or reboot.

Does anyone know of a way that I can add myself to a group to save having
to logout? So the group membership shows up straight away. If I have to
type some other command to refresh things it doesn't worry me.

off topic. electronics project

greig corlett — 2013-03-28T21:56:19

Hi all

a bit off topic but im sure there is some electronics enthusiasts on here.

I am in the process of building a micro hydro generator from an old smart
drive washing machine.  i have rewired the stator to give an output voltage
between 60 and 120v depending on speed and mostly load.  I need to build a
regulator which will charge a 48v battery bank and be capable of around
5-7A or about 250w.

I was hoping to be able to use a 3 terminal regulator like the lm317 with
current boost transistors but since this regulator has a max voltage of 37v
would not be suitable.

Is the another similar regulator which is capable of the voltages and can i
use boost transistors in the same way with the higher voltage/ power
required.

Thanks guys for your help it will be very much appreciated.

Greig
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Meeting tonight

Paul Campbell — 2013-03-26T18:37:46

Just a reminder - tonight is Dunlug - at Filadelfios

Paul

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Email addresses ..off topic

Monica Barkman — 2013-03-13T09:19:51

Hi all
Geoff and I are involved in the Silverpeaks Country Music club. The club
has the domain silverpeaks.org.nz. We want to have a couple of email
addresses e.g. newsletters< at >silverpeaks.org.nz. Is it possible to set up a
Gmail account and somehow point the < at >silverpeaks address to it? If so, how
do you go about organising it?

Any other suggestions?

Thanks
Monica
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