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Update on netsukuku vala

Luca Dionisi — 2012-05-20T21:14:07

A new revision is in the repository.
The main point of it, is that I used a fresh installation of a recent
O.S. (Ubuntu 12.04)
So it builds with
 - valac 0.14.2
 - glib2 2.32.1

In other news, I tried and built a new firmware with a more recent
revision of OpenWRT: rev31710.
It is worth to note that recently OpenWRT passed from glibc to eglibc.
I flashed my tp-link with
 - OpenWRT rev 31710
 - eglibc 2.13
and it is able to run netsukuku.

I have put on the wiki more detailed instructions:
 http://lab.dyne.org/Netsukuku_Dev/vala/flashing_notes2

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Results of funding proposal. Future directions.

Luca Dionisi — 2012-05-14T11:09:33

I have blogged my impressions about the responses that the community
gave to my proposal.
http://pyntk.blogspot.com/2012/05/these-are-my-thoughts-about-results-of.html

I think that the response was very good, thank you all. But it was not
enough for the effort of registering the project on a crowd-funding
platform.
Read on the post for more on my understanding of the reasons.
In the end, I now accept donations on my blog (in bitcoin) that will
be used in another tentative in the future.

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glibc error trying to compile OpenWRT for WR1043ND

myddrn — 2012-05-05T06:34:09

I'm following the build notes here
http://lab.dyne.org/Netsukuku_Dev/vala/flashing_notes to try and get
Netsukuku running on a WR1043ND

I've gotten up to this step


time ionice -c 3 nice -n 20 make -j 2       (it takes about 32 min)

without error.

When I run the command above it runs for about three minutes and then bails
out with the following error:
make[1]: ***
[/home/beeper/projects/netsukuku/openwrt/r30610/staging_dir/target-mips_r2_glibc-2.14/stamp/.package_compile]
Error 2

I double checked the modification to
package/base-files/files/lib/upbgrade/common.sh, and read through the notes
here https://dev.openwrt.org/ticket/9483#comment:16.

I'm not entirely sure if there are additional step I need to take beyond
modifying common.sh to get glibc happy.

Anyone have a pointers on where to look next?

Thanks.
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A proposal

Luca Dionisi — 2012-05-04T08:37:01

The project Netsukuku is alive, and under active development.
Nonetheless it is a fact that advancements with the development of the
software come at a very slow pace, though they are real and quite steady.
I think that it is important that the fundamental features of the project
may be implemented more quickly; those features are also realistically
feasible (pyntk.blogspot.com).

For quite some time I think about trying the way of crowd funding as a
means for me to be able to devote myself to the development continuously.
Crowd funding is a mechanism to raise funds for a project by donation
pledges, that are usually of low amount. These pledges become real
donations only if, within an expiration period, their total amount grows up
to the minimum requirement for the project.

I evaluated that, if I can reach an amount of 15,000 € (circa 20,000 $), I
would be able to work on the project part-time (4 hours a day) for one
year. This would imply, indeed, that I cannot work full-time for my current
employer.
Th

netsukuku is now running on a router

Luca Dionisi — 2012-05-01T16:16:48

It is possible to compile a OpenWRT firmware for the wireless router
TPLink WR1043ND with which you can run Netsukuku.
This device has 8 MB of flash storage and 32 MB of RAM.
(It also has an USB port that one could use to get more storage, but
that's not needed to be able to run ntkd)

I finally succeeded to install it. It is the Vala implementation that
I am working on recently.
It hasn't got yet all of the features that were in the python version.
Anyhow, once you start it and give it a NIC interface, it will automatically:
  * obtain an IP address (this will not harm the one IP you got from
your ISP, if any)
  * listen to neighborhood for other netsukuku nodes
  * configure routing tables in order to reach other nodes in the network

During the process I wrote down some notes, I placed them here today:
http://lab.dyne.org/Netsukuku_Dev/vala/flashing_notes

It's a starting point, if someone wants to try with his hardware.

--Luca
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Berlin gig

hellekin — 2012-04-13T11:44:37

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Hello,

I just wanted to point you to the upcoming Occupy event in Berlin,
starting 27th of April, until July 1st, 2012. During the Art Biennale,
the Occupy movement has been granted a large space that will be used
to gather many free software projects together to tackle some of the
eternal hacktivist questions.  Have a look at the program's proposal.

I'm trying to get the battlemesh.org people involved, and I think some
Netsukuku presence would be in order. (check #battlemesh or freenode)

https://n-1.cc/mod/threaded_forums/topicposts.php?topic=1260317&group_guid=7826

Cheers,

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R: Re: Some updates on progress and a request for help with testing

2012-03-02T18:12:35

Plese, delele me from mailing list.


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Ogg: Re: [Netsukuku] Some updates on progress and a request for help with testing

Why not post source code and compiling instructions somewhere so others
can even make patches so it runs on new/different hardware.

On 02/03/2012 7:02 AM, Luca Dionisi wrote:
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R: Re: Some updates on progress and a request forhelpwith testing

2012-03-02T18:12:10

Plese, delele me from mailing list.




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Ogg: Re: [Netsukuku] Some updates on progress and a request for help with testing

On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 2:12 PM, BoBeR <bober_182-PkbjNfxxIARBDgjK7y7TUQ< at >public.gmane.org> wrote:

This first contacts have the objective to produce a first tentative of
a step-by-step guide to the building of the software on any
architecture.
The software itself is already in a public repository. And there is a
makefile which is ok for a normal desktop machine.

Thanks for the suggestion.
--Luca
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R: Some updates on progress and a request for helpwithtesting

2012-03-01T13:40:22

Puoi eliminarmi dalla mailing list per favore ?

Grazie.


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Ogg: [Netsukuku] Some updates on progress and a request for help with testing

Some updates on progress and a request for help with testing.

The porting of netsukuku in Vala is not complete yet.
By about a couple of months ago, though, it reached a point in which 2
or 3 nodes were able to automatically form a mesh.
Thus, I thought it was time to test it in real embedded hardware.
I had some issues while making it to work on OpenWRT and I spent much
time until now working at it. But now I am able to run the software on
a tp-link wr1043nd (mips architecture) with OpenWRT on it.

I am looking for someone willing to spend some time to try and make it
run on his/her own hardwar

Some updates on progress and a request for help withtesting

Luca Dionisi — 2012-02-29T09:00:03

Some updates on progress and a request for help with testing.

The porting of netsukuku in Vala is not complete yet.
By about a couple of months ago, though, it reached a point in which 2
or 3 nodes were able to automatically form a mesh.
Thus, I thought it was time to test it in real embedded hardware.
I had some issues while making it to work on OpenWRT and I spent much
time until now working at it. But now I am able to run the software on
a tp-link wr1043nd (mips architecture) with OpenWRT on it.

I am looking for someone willing to spend some time to try and make it
run on his/her own hardware and make a check-list of what one needs to
do for a fresh build/install.
What I need is someone with a router with plenty of storage, because I
would like to not spend time at the moment with space optimizations
issues. For example I have it running on a router with a USB port
where the software is on a stick; the software and its dependencies
(which are compiled with debugging symbols and all) occupy about 50 MB
[

How Soon till Netsukuku Roll Out?

hawkiye — 2012-02-04T21:57:17

Just wondering with all the Internet censorship going on and getting 
worse on how soon this will be ready to roll out? I have been lurking on 
the list for about 2 years and it doesn't seem like there is been much 
progress in that time or maybe I have not paid enough attention? I am 
not a developer or would help out but time is running short. If we could 
do away with ISP's then it will be over for internet censorhsip garbage 
that is threatening the free flow of information as that is thier 
control point. They intimidate ISP's who don't want the hassles so 
comply with their censorship demands. Just curious.





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ntkresolv installation, is this a bug?

James Farrar — 2012-01-23T17:10:08

I was following  -------------    http://lab.dyne.org/Netsukuku/eng/Testing

"HowTo test netsukuku daemon on real hardware"

New Utbuntu install, on a ABIT NF7-S (AMD processor and Nvidia chipset).
All is fine untill I tried to make ntkresolv    Then I get:-


james< at >james-netsukuku:~/netsukuku/ntkresolv$ make 
gcc -Wall -landns ntkresolv.c -o ntkresolv 
ntkresolv.c: In function ‘do_command’: 
ntkresolv.c:295:20: warning: variable ‘x’ set but not used [-Wunused-but-set-
variable] 
/tmp/ccceP57K.o: In function `do_command': 
ntkresolv.c:(.text+0xd79): undefined reference to `ntk_query' 
ntkresolv.c:(.text+0xdce): undefined reference to `free_andns_pkt' 
/tmp/ccceP57K.o: In function `compute_hash': 
ntkresolv.c:(.text+0x13cf): undefined reference to `MD5' 
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status 
make: *** [all] Error 


OK, I may be barking up the wrong tree, but it seemas to me that openssl-dev 
is not the name of the Ubuntu package, that seems to be a Fedora package 
(amoungst others).

From what I can f

rahphone

Pasabot — 2012-01-08T12:32:09

If you want to know what dimitry is talking about this is the link that you 
need to translate on google: http://pcmag.ru/library/detail.php?ID=44304
 
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list

ja — 2011-11-29T04:31:52

Hi
These emails I have been receiving from you make no sense whatsoever,
therefore I would like to be removed from your mailing list please.
If my request is not honored, I will mark them as spam.
Thanks
Jane
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RahPhone, 6 edition

DmitryTurin.narod.ru — 2011-11-23T16:35:14

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<h1>RahPhone: работа сотовых телефонов без вышек, или бизнес-идея стоимостью миллиард евро</h1>

Необходимы перепосты и переводы на другие языки
(there exists
 <a href="rah-en.doc">draft translation to english</a>).
Журнал "PC Magazine"
  <a href="http://pcmag.ru/library/detail.php?ID=44304">pcmag.ru/library/detail.php?ID=44304</a>
Издание <b>6-е</b>, исправленное и дополненное.
  Процессы выделе

update

Luca Dionisi — 2011-10-18T15:28:32

A little update.
Lately I dedicated small time to the porting, so it is progressing
very slowly. Though it is progressing.
I don't think that we'll have it ready this year. Perhaps before spring.
AFAIK nobody is working on the website.

--Luca
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DOS/MITM by TP spoofing??

Andres — 2011-10-04T20:29:31

I probably got it wrong. At least I hope I did. But here it goes.

What prevents somebody who does not like netsukuku or anybody using it
from causing routing errors using a fake TP like this:
- Create a new TP, which is identical to one originated from the
target (can be a physical node if no TP signing is required or gnode
either way).
- Act as he would after receiving the TP from the target. Now the TP
indicates, that there is a (very efficient) route from the attacker to
the target.
- When a neighbor receives the fake TP, it can not tell it from a good
one, even if TP signing was required. A gnode can not have a /private/
key. If the "private" key of the gnode was shared by all members, then
the attacker could just join the target gnode once to get the key, and
use it later.
- All packets that pass trough any node that has a more efficient
route to the attacker than to the target, will be routed to the
attacker.

If I have understood correctly, the only thing that should prevent
this kind of attacks is t

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rocko — 2011-09-12T20:23:58

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Is Netsukuku still alive?

Brandon Abbott — 2011-09-11T05:09:26

What is it's current status? If they have any prototypes, how well
does it work? If not, how far have they gotten it?
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the wiki is no more there?

Luca Dionisi — 2011-09-09T15:11:21

Hi all
The wiki pages for netsukuku at the dyne.org site are no more available.
http://lab.dyne.org/Netsukuku
Do you know why?

--Luca
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How can I help?

Sharif Olorin — 2011-08-11T02:32:48

I've read the todo list on lab.dyne.org, but it's dated 2009. I'm an
experienced Python coder with a background in algorithms, and I have a
decent amount of time available. What needs work?

Thanks,
fractalcat