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Some first node

Yussi — 2013-05-24T13:25:50

I think we need some starting node to make this network, I don't have a
domain, or even a static IP, but it would be very nice for new
installers to have some network to connect to. Will it be possible to
set one up with some sort of public VPN on dyne or freaknet?
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cjdns in comparison.

Yussi — 2013-05-20T16:40:05

This guy is starting to convince me that to all intents and purposes ntk
and cjdns are the same thing, and ntk has not major advantages over cjdns

http://www.reddit.com/r/darknetplan/comments/1emjof/new_netsukuku_subreddit/ca1suwk

Is he right? can anyone find a silver bullet that will give a reason not
to just drop ntk and go with cjdns?
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netsukuku subreddit

Yussi — 2013-05-19T09:10:28

I just made reddit.com/r/netsukuku
Not sure why, but why not. Feel free to join, I'll make you a mod if I
can figure out how to.
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Connecting from afar

Valeska Grim — 2013-05-18T07:19:30

Hi! How does one connect two netsukuku nodes without a direct connection? Such as, Through the internet? I saw this on the story of netsukuku deployment blog http://www.tinc-vpn.org/_______________________________________________
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NewNetsukukuOrg

Yussi — 2013-05-17T06:39:16

Hi,
I cannot register to edit the https://lab.dyne.org/NewNetsukukuOrg page.
It requests a password to register, that must be wrong.
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To install a virtual machine:

Yussi — 2013-05-16T07:38:59

To install a virtual machine:

you need qemu/kvm (Or any other VM, this is the one i know)

create a large file (like at least 2 Gigs), this will be your fake
harddrive.

$dd if=/dev/zero of=./deb-hda bs=1M count=2000

this will create a file named deb-hda of 2000M
(if: input file, of: output file, bs: block size, count: # of blocks)

Download any install image, if you know how to build an image yourself
even better, you only need a minimal install, X is a unnecessary for
our needs.

you can get it here:
http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.0.0/i386/iso-cd/debian-7.0.0-i386-CD-1.iso

$kvm --hda deb-hda --cdrom debian-7.0.0-i386-CD-1.iso

I used expert install, with pretty much default options, no window
manager.
this should install it, when done, run

$kvm --hda deb-hda

When you've done this, i'll show you how to setup the tunnels and bridges.

Even though this isn't a qemu list, any problems you have post them
here so we can get some sort of testing environment running for a few
people.
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OK...

Yussi — 2013-05-15T15:59:50

For netsukuku vala:

deps:
valac >=0.14
libgee-dev
libpth-dev
libgcrypt11-dev

recommended:
bzr #see https://savannah.nongnu.org/bzr/?group=netsukuku

howto:

#clone vala ntk repository
bzr branch bzr://bzr.savannah.nongnu.org/netsukuku/vala netsukuku-vala

cd netsukuku-vala
./configure
make  #got a lot of warnings here
make install


usage:
ntkd -i tunnel1 -i wireless -i eth0 -i whatever-interface


For messing around
apt-get install openvpn bridge-utils

#make a tunnel interface
sudo openvpn --mktun --dev tap0 --user `id -un`

#check it's there
ifconfig tap0

#make a bridge interface
brctl addbr br0

#check it's there
ifconfig br0

#add tunnel if to bridge
brctl addif br0 tap0

#start ntkd on the bridge (won't work on tap0 ?!?)
ntkd -i br0

#watch it
tcpdump -i br0

more or less...
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Stories of pwnage

Jaromil — 2013-01-15T10:22:07

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Deployment in Budapest

Attilafx — 2012-09-09T06:57:38

I just found out about netsukuku and caught my attention.

If there can be found more information about setup and necessary libs I would
 
need to compile I would like to start to deploy in and around Budapest. I'm 

running Backtrack and have linux certification so shouldn't be to difficult.

Perhaps one of the programmers can start to make a windows version of it and also
 
make it available for apt under Linux.

Also, the freaknet website would be nice to see in English :)

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London wide mesh

Yussi — 2012-06-20T11:54:57

Hi,
I've been meaning to start rolling this for years now, and now this
seems like a good time. I wrote this "pitch", and i intend to distribute
this or something similar around London circles. I figured i'll pass it
through you to get your input, especially Luka's. I am hoping that this
will get things starting. have a look and let me know If I should change
anything. Also, if you are in London and want to help out, please
contact me.

Thanks,
Yussi.
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update

Luca Dionisi — 2012-06-15T12:02:23

Recently I have had very little free time to spend on netsukuku.

During this time I explored and worked my way through the use of
Anjuta (IDE) and Autotools-based configuration of projects in order to
improve my netsukuku-coding workflow (at the moment I code with gedit,
the makefiles are hand-written, and I debug occasionally with nemiver
on the generated C source files)

Further, I am writing down some notes for presenting to the public
what we are trying to achieve with netsukuku network and what is the
current status of the software tools. These notes will form the
content and structure of the new website.
Writing something updated in the website is extremely important.
First, because many people looking at the website get the impression
that the project is dead.
Second, the website has to convey the points that we want to address.
We must expose, in a non technicalese language, what are the limits
that the current architecture of the Internet impose on us. Which are
not fixed enough by other projects t

Node

Margherita Goldire — 2012-06-05T13:58:45

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another openwrt firmware

Luca Dionisi — 2012-05-28T07:22:48

I made another attempt at preparing a OpenWRT firmware and SDK for my
router (TP-LINK 1043ND) which is suited for building and running the
netsukuku daemon.
This time I used a more recent revision of OpenWRT, 31835. The
remarkable point in that revision is the use of a 3.3 linux kernel
with patches from the amazing work from bufferbloat.net team at
CeroWRT (CoDel AQM, Fair queue, BQL and the likes) [0]
Further I used the versions of glib2 and pthsem libraries which are
included in the OpenWRT. The version for glib2 is much older (2.26 vs
2.32), but it seems that it works ok. So that the process for building
is much shorter.
I took notes while producing that here: [1]

The code of netsukuku in the repository now builds with Vala 0.14.2

--Luca

[0] http://gettys.wordpress.com/2012/05/08/fundamental-progress-solving-bufferbloat/
[1] http://lab.dyne.org/Netsukuku_Dev/vala/flashing_notes3
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Update on netsukuku vala

Luca Dionisi — 2012-05-20T21:14:07

A new revision is in the repository.
The main point of it, is that I used a fresh installation of a recent
O.S. (Ubuntu 12.04)
So it builds with
 - valac 0.14.2
 - glib2 2.32.1

In other news, I tried and built a new firmware with a more recent
revision of OpenWRT: rev31710.
It is worth to note that recently OpenWRT passed from glibc to eglibc.
I flashed my tp-link with
 - OpenWRT rev 31710
 - eglibc 2.13
and it is able to run netsukuku.

I have put on the wiki more detailed instructions:
 http://lab.dyne.org/Netsukuku_Dev/vala/flashing_notes2

--Luca
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Results of funding proposal. Future directions.

Luca Dionisi — 2012-05-14T11:09:33

I have blogged my impressions about the responses that the community
gave to my proposal.
http://pyntk.blogspot.com/2012/05/these-are-my-thoughts-about-results-of.html

I think that the response was very good, thank you all. But it was not
enough for the effort of registering the project on a crowd-funding
platform.
Read on the post for more on my understanding of the reasons.
In the end, I now accept donations on my blog (in bitcoin) that will
be used in another tentative in the future.

--Luca
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glibc error trying to compile OpenWRT for WR1043ND

myddrn — 2012-05-05T06:34:09

I'm following the build notes here
http://lab.dyne.org/Netsukuku_Dev/vala/flashing_notes to try and get
Netsukuku running on a WR1043ND

I've gotten up to this step


time ionice -c 3 nice -n 20 make -j 2       (it takes about 32 min)

without error.

When I run the command above it runs for about three minutes and then bails
out with the following error:
make[1]: ***
[/home/beeper/projects/netsukuku/openwrt/r30610/staging_dir/target-mips_r2_glibc-2.14/stamp/.package_compile]
Error 2

I double checked the modification to
package/base-files/files/lib/upbgrade/common.sh, and read through the notes
here https://dev.openwrt.org/ticket/9483#comment:16.

I'm not entirely sure if there are additional step I need to take beyond
modifying common.sh to get glibc happy.

Anyone have a pointers on where to look next?

Thanks.
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A proposal

Luca Dionisi — 2012-05-04T08:37:01

The project Netsukuku is alive, and under active development.
Nonetheless it is a fact that advancements with the development of the
software come at a very slow pace, though they are real and quite steady.
I think that it is important that the fundamental features of the project
may be implemented more quickly; those features are also realistically
feasible (pyntk.blogspot.com).

For quite some time I think about trying the way of crowd funding as a
means for me to be able to devote myself to the development continuously.
Crowd funding is a mechanism to raise funds for a project by donation
pledges, that are usually of low amount. These pledges become real
donations only if, within an expiration period, their total amount grows up
to the minimum requirement for the project.

I evaluated that, if I can reach an amount of 15,000 € (circa 20,000 $), I
would be able to work on the project part-time (4 hours a day) for one
year. This would imply, indeed, that I cannot work full-time for my current
employer.
Th