http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.network.gopher.general hourly 1 1901-01-01T00:00+00:00 http://gmane.org/img/gmane-25t.png http://gmane.org http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.network.gopher.general/4296 <pre>Could I have the spec to, or perhaps somebody's explanation of, the robots.txt file? This will help me to explain it in my RFC. </pre> Nick Matavka 2012-05-23T20:17:59 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.network.gopher.general/4293 <pre>Hello everybody ! I working on graphical gopher client. (No java, it use C++ and QT.) You can test it here : gopher://dams.zapto.org/1/gogoph-browser To compile, install libraries for QT 4 and run : $&gt; qmake &amp;&amp; make THAT'S ALL ! Regards, </pre> Damien Carol 2012-05-23T15:54:34 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.network.gopher.general/4275 <pre>Doc (and other readers): Would it be possible for you to please furnish the complete syntax of capability files for Gopher? This will make my job easier. </pre> Nick Matavka 2012-05-23T02:24:37 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.network.gopher.general/4267 <pre>From the release notes at http://nmap.org/6/ "Nmap now supports the old-school Gopher protocol thanks to our handy gopher-ls NSE script. We even support Gopher over IPv6!" I have absolutely no idea what that means... and I use Gopher and nmap almost daily. (WTF is NSE?) - Kim </pre> Kim Holviala 2012-05-22T18:54:55 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.network.gopher.general/4266 <pre> Hello gopherspace ! A new version for gopher server from GOGOPH project is out ! *What is GOGOPH Server ?* GOGOPH Server is a gopher server (RFC 1436 compliant). The main goal is simplicity. The server display the content of the live folder to the world. *Bundle ?* This software is mainly a Java program. It use 1 configuration file. All your need is archive file from HERE : gopher://dams.zapto.org/1/gogoph-server *Why choose this one ?* Very small program. Very small memory footprint. (files are loaded on-the-fly) Design of gogoph server is KISS. Very simple to use. Only one program for one configuration file (plain text) for one live folder.. Based on modern Java NIO framework, can manage &gt; 1K connections in the same time. You can't do that with inetd. Effective asynchronous network framework with Netty (JBOSS open source library). NO external library or framework or whatever. Only need basic Java version. (Works with open source implementations) Can handle download of VERY big files ( &gt; 100 Mo test</pre> Damien Carol 2012-05-22T15:06:55 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.network.gopher.general/4260 <pre>I understand that obsolete Mac OS sends CR as an EOL indicator, UNIX sends LF, and Micro$haft Winblow$ sends CRLF. How does all this get fixed in Gopher? What I mean is, how come a Windoze client, expecting CRLF, is unburdened by a UNIX server sending it LF's only? Has Gopher standardized on CR/LF/CRLF? Is it the client's responsibility? Is it the server's responsibility? </pre> Nick Matavka 2012-05-22T00:49:18 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.network.gopher.general/4256 <pre> Mimed File under Gopher Item Type 9 Damien Carol made a proposal to use mimed file under the Item 0 to carry all kind of binary files that could be base64 encoded; so, to be assimilated to an ascii file. This proposal gave the possibility to know which type of file is as reading the first blocks of that file containing the label MIME. Furthermore, one could notice that using "multipart", it is possible to know if that file is shortened or not during the transmission according the boundary is displayed or not. More, adding a checksum after this first part could verify the integrity of the said file. Some persons said the item type "0" doesn't apply to this kind of mimed file, even ascii encoded, due to the need to have a base64 decoder. From my side, I agree to the opinion that item type 0 must not be used for mimed file. I saw, last days, many discussions about which item type to apply to mimed file, PDF files, video files and so on. We all agree the fact that item type is coded usin</pre> Denis Bernard 2012-05-21T18:32:19 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.network.gopher.general/4230 <pre>I want to get this into Mozilla's loving arms before Fx13 comes out because there is a minor bug fix related to that version. Please report serious bugs promptly. Assuming none, this will be uploaded to them probably next Friday. gopher://gopher.floodgap.com/9/overbiteff.xpi </pre> Cameron Kaiser 2012-05-19T18:42:30 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.network.gopher.general/4225 <pre>Gentlemen and ladies: It has come to my attention that the choice of item-type for video is somewhat controversial. The existing, but somewhat awkward, choice is ';' (semicolon), which is my own preference, but there are some who have floated the idea of it being changed to 'v' (lowercase vee). The sole reason I prefer the semicolon is that it is the (unofficially) established standard. If the selector were changed, admins would have to update their sites to accomplish the change, and some Gopher sites are... shall we say... updated once in a bit over a millennium. Furthermore, clients would have to be reprogrammed to accept the 'v' selector as video. Cordially, Nick vee: 0 semicolon: 1 </pre> Nick Matavka 2012-05-19T16:18:36 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.network.gopher.general/4210 <pre>my NAS is out... 4To fo data lost :/ !!! NetGEAR ReadyNAS RND4000 !!! </pre> Damien Carol 2012-05-19T09:15:53 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.network.gopher.general/4197 <pre>printf("Hello, World!\n"); OK, so I've followed teh discussions about the proposed changes to the RFC. To be honest, I've not read of *any* change that would actually make sense. None of the changes proposed are backwards-compatible, and they really don't help the cause at all. Say, the MIME thingy; yeah, let's decide that MIMEs are type M. Fine. What then? No client in teh whole universe supports such a filetype. And even if they did support it, why would I use it? I can serve out menus with type 1, text with type 0, html (which is stupid) with type h etc etc. There absolutely *no* need for sending out MIME, ever. Well... except for mailing list messages. But even then Jacob's neat mbox script works way better. Anyway. What I would like to see is (and I'm always right, so hear me out): * what do about teh US-ASCII vs. Latin-1 vs. UTF-8 issue? * are PDF's really type "p", or "d" - a definite list of filetypes * should the server end the transmission with a dot or not? And that's about it. Those are the</pre> Kim Holviala 2012-05-17T18:36:27 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.network.gopher.general/4186 <pre>Hello everybody ! I read the RFC of gopher 1.0 protocol and I can say that MIME is already possible. Read that : 1) MIME file is '0' type item 2) all clients are compatible they can get '0' type files The file get is something like that : *MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=frontier This is a message with multiple parts in MIME format. --frontier Content-Type: text/plain This is the body of the message. --frontier Content-Type: application/octet-stream Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 PGh0bWw+CiAgPGhlYWQ+CiAgPC9oZWFkPgogIDxib2R5PgogICAgPHA+VGhpcyBpcyB0aGUg Ym9keSBvZiB0aGUgbWVzc2FnZS48L3A+CiAgPC9ib2R5Pgo8L2h0bWw+Cg= --frontier--* Clients can easily manage data because many lib exists to read MIME. The only thing to do is to add feature to client that read the first line of '0' type item. If this line starts with "*MIME-Version:* " , then it's a mime encoded file and client can offer to extract file or something else. It's very very simple to manage mime type this way. I wil</pre> Damien Carol 2012-05-17T11:07:39 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.network.gopher.general/4180 <pre>https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/ExitEnclave Thinking about setting one up locally. </pre> Cameron Kaiser 2012-05-17T00:47:40 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.network.gopher.general/4174 <pre>Hello everybody, I'm facing a big pb with my search engine/crawler. The crawler sends selectors that don't exists sometimes. (Updated / removed / don't exists / whatever) I use to handle error like that : 1) parse response 2) Try to parse as Menu 3) If the first item of the menu is '3' error item type then ERROR But this method don't works. Mainly because some servers reply very odd responses Some old servers sends that : *BAD:* ==&gt; 0Sorry, but the requested token could not be found&lt;TAB&gt;Err&lt;TAB&gt;localhost&lt;TAB&gt;70 gopher://wss-ds.no-ip.info:70/0/robots.txt ==&gt; 0'/robots.txt' does not exist&lt;TAB&gt;&lt;TAB&gt;error.host&lt;TAB&gt;1 gopher://gdead.berkeley.edu:70/0/robots.txt gopher://net.bio.net:70/0/robots.txt gopher://newkraitch.cs.berkeley.edu:70/0/robots.txt gopher://nemesis.cs.berkeley.edu:70/0/robots.txt gopher://quix.us:70/0/robots.txt =&gt; &lt;Empty String&gt; gopher://sdf.org:79/0/robots.txt =&gt; finger: /robots.txt: no such user gopher://holviala.com:79/0/robots.txt *GOOD: gopher://gopher.r-36.net:70/0/robots.txt gop</pre> Damien Carol 2012-05-16T13:07:27 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.network.gopher.general/4168 <pre>Hello ! My crawler found a treasur. Yeeehaaar ! =&gt; gopher://gopher.viste-family.net/1/NES/ </pre> Damien Carol 2012-05-15T17:57:56 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.network.gopher.general/4165 <pre>I'm working on Gopher Client and I have a pb. My client works with URL. But for type item 7, I don't know how to manage them. Basically what my client do : URL = gopher://example.com/7/search?foo%20bar =&gt; request to [ example.com] port [70] wtih selector [/search&lt;TAB&gt;foo bar] BUT there are many gopher sites that use '?' in there selectors :/ what a crap ! Another detail, in RFC 4266 specify that '?' character is reserved for ASK Gopher+ feature. What's your opinion gopherspace ? Regards, </pre> Damien Carol 2012-05-15T09:32:04 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.network.gopher.general/4151 <pre>It's only in Canary. But finally we can ditch the proxy kludge and Overbite Chrome can be a real gopher client just like OverbiteFF. http://blog.alexmaccaw.com/chrome-tcp-udp </pre> Cameron Kaiser 2012-05-14T19:30:52 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.network.gopher.general/4117 <pre>Capability files are dangerous! Overbite Project provides a module for the Internet browser FireFox to ease Gopher netsurfing. This project is going to promote a capability file (caps.txt) to be installed inside a Gopher server. This practice is dangerous for users of the Gopher space and the administrators of Gopher servers. Up to day, any Gopher client was able to deal with any Gopher server (more or less). The spirit of Gopher is to keep it as simple as possible and, mainly, for retrieving files anonymously. Up to day, it was impossible, for an administrator of a Gopher server, to know which flavor of a Gopher client was browsing its site. The only information available was from the IP address. Now, with a capability file like “caps.txt”, there is a fingerprint. Without to be paranoiac, everybody heard of web sites serving contents (or refusing to serve!) according the software or the system that the client have. That will happen for the Gopher space too! A capability file creates an indirect</pre> Denis Bernard 2012-05-14T08:48:48 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.network.gopher.general/4096 <pre>OverbiteFF 3.0! Now with caps! This needs testing, so this is a beta with debugging on. Locales are incomplete. Caps support right now allows you to navigate "up" paths. Eventually it will be expanded. Because threading extensions is a bit tricky in Firefox, the caps is fetched when an "up" is requested and then cached. If it turns out there is no caps, then the root is fetched as a bailout. Caching is for the life of the browser instance, since this is simpler, but if you visit pseudo-URL gopher:/// it will be cleared out. There is machinery already to display a formatted caps display, but that's all it supports right now. But this is now the first "major" client to support caps and Overbite Android will be next once the kinks are worked out of OverbiteFF. The code is based mostly on the Public Proxy. Firefox 3.6+ required (current SeaMonkey also okay). Fx10+ or TenFourFox recommended. This is a beta only. gopher://gopher.floodgap.com/9/overbiteff.xpi </pre> Cameron Kaiser 2012-05-12T03:27:08 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.network.gopher.general/4090 <pre>I just tried Overbite Chrome on Chrome 18 on my Mac mini, and it works fine with gopher:// URLs in the omnibox. So you must have a different search URL. Please send me what search URL you get when you type in a gopher:// URL so I can compare it. </pre> Cameron Kaiser 2012-05-11T21:51:29 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.network.gopher.general/4082 <pre>Greetings, in accordance to the discussion on this list about some maybe flaws of gopher I wrote down a simple proposal on how to do gopher but including the modern ideas. http://sprunge.us/DMSE The whole proposal does break backwards compatibility and I don’t expect it to be adopted, because one intention of this mailinglists’s efforts is to preserve the old gopherspace and its history. Maybe it is worth to do another gopherspace? Sincerely, Christoph Lohmann _______________________________________________ Gopher-Project mailing list Gopher-Project&lt; at &gt;lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gopher-project</pre> Christoph Lohmann 2012-05-11T14:23:34 Search the mailing list at Gmane query http://search.gmane.org/?group=$group=gmane.network.gopher.general