gmane.linux.ubuntu.devel

armel architecture info wanted

Morten Kjeldgaard — 2008-11-29T13:54:19

Hi, Will someone with access to a machine running the armel platform please run the following commands: touch foo.c gcc -E -dM foo.c ... and post the output here? (Or perhaps even better, on the Wiki, where similar information from other platforms could be added). Thanks, Morten

Foundations Team Weekly Summary, 2008-11-26

Robbie Williamson — 2008-11-26T17:52:27

== Apologies == * EvanDandrea - vacation * LarsWirzenius - vacation * ScottJamesRemnant - vacation == Activity reports == === Colin Watson === * Jaunty Alpha 1: * Fixed some dmraid issues in hw-detect. Later, realised that the same bug affected four other installer components (base-installer, grub-installer, os-prober, and partman-base), and fixed them all. Filed dmraid #300825 about the general issue. * Tracked down and fixed udev #300426. * Basic smoke-testing and release. * ARM porting assistance: * No-change rebuilds: contact-lookup-applet, foomatic-filters * lynx-cur build-dependency adjustment so that it can build now that it needs to be in main. * Fixed misbuilt libtool on armel (noticed while investigating dictd build failure; filed as #299931). * Sent patch series to kernel-team< at > to add d-i modules for armel. * Some fiddling with the d-i build system, but it won't quite work yet. * Merges: * Finished debian-installer merge. * installation-guide, klibc, network-console,

python3.0 upgrade issues

Kjell Braden — 2008-11-24T14:57:37

init scripts, /var/run and dpkg-statoverride

James Westby — 2008-11-24T15:26:46

Hi, Some packages require certain ownership of or permissions on directories in /var/run. These packages chown/chmod the directories in the postinst. As we all know Ubuntu has /var/run on a tmpfs, and as such we move code to do this from the postinst to the init script. The correct thing to do is to guard these operations by a call to dpkg-statoverride to allow the admin to override permissions. However, I have seen cases where we have a bare chown/chmod in the init script, so we don't support that. Is this something that we want to support? Does it even make any sense for directories on a tmpfs? Thanks, James P.S. it is important to actually move code that changes permissions on /var/run directories from the postinst to the init script, i.e. don't leave it in the postinst. This is because a reboot between the package being unpacked and configured will cause an error as the directory will not be present. If the postinst needs the directory before running init script then have an explicit mkdir in th

help: pythonpackage: gconf-schemas --unregister does not deleteeverything

Francesco Fumanti — 2008-11-21T15:20:55

Hello, I am trying to add gconf schemas to the python package named onboard. The package uses cdbs and python-distutils.mk. The call to gh_gconf in debian/rules generates the corresponding gconf-schemas --register and gconf-schemas --unregister calls in the postinst and prerm scripts. After building the debian package in the pbuilder environment, the installation of the bin package registers the schemas; uninstalling the package unregisters the keys, but not completely: the keys are all deleted, but the /apps/onboard and the /schemas/apps/onboard entries remain listed in the gconf database (at least they continue to show up in the gconf editor). Could anybody please tell me what is going on or how to make also the two remaining entries disappear? You can have a look at the debian/rules file and at the gconf schemas file in the following thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=984014 Many thanks in advance for any help. Cheers Francesco

pbuilder-satisfydepends-dummy thinks libmilter-dev is avirtualpackage

Alban Deniz — 2008-11-22T14:55:41

Hello, I'm packaging for Ubuntu an application I'm developing, and I've encountered a problem I wasn't able find a solution in the docs. I'm getting error when attempting to create a binary package using pbuilder (entire output is below): The following packages have unmet dependencies: pbuilder-satisfydepends-dummy: Depends: libmilter-dev which is a virtual package. Depends: libmilter1 which is a virtual package. However, neither libmilter-dev nor libmilter1 are listed as virtual packages, according to 'aptitude search libmilter-dev libmilter1'. I'd like to know how to solve this (either a solution or a reference would be great). I wasn't able to find this issue mentioned on any of the packaging manuals or searches. Also, if this isn't the appropriate list, I apologize (and please let me know of a more appropriate list). I'm using debhelper (single binary package). Contents of control: Source: snfmilter Section: unknown Prio

Foundations Team Weekly Summary, 2008-11-21

Robbie Williamson — 2008-11-22T06:09:45

== Activity reports == === Colin Watson === * Fixed gfxboot-theme-ubuntu #294840. * Helped Kyle Nitzsche (OEM) out with taking over Classmate PC work. * Merged: memtest86+, partman-auto, partman-auto-lvm,partman-auto-crypto, network-console, installation-report,localechooser, and most of debian-installer * Made powermanagement-interface build on armel, and cleared out some old bugs in it (#45680, #149678, #182651). * Typo fix in language-selector. * Bits of man-db and dpkg bug triage. * Fix gamin build failure (noticed by Matthias on armel). * Fix palo build failure. * Various armel-related buildability and installability fixes; also some related archive administration work. * Worked to get the GTK debian-installer frontend buildable in Ubuntu (including vte packaging merge). * Wrote archive script to check for override mismatches between architectures; output at http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive/architecture-mismatches.txt (may well be empty when you read this, but it does

tarball-in-tarball packaging

Emmet Hikory — 2008-11-22T03:09:59

Fellow Developers, I am sure that some of you like tarball-in-tarball packaging, and that others of you dislike it. Some of you may have no special preference I've seen discussions where strong arguments were presented for doing it each way, and have built my own set of personal preferences on the matter. On this contentious topic, I'd like to ask that one thing *never* be done in this area: if you are updating to a new upstream of a package that is present in Debian, and not yet updated, please never alter the previous choice of whether to use tarball-in-tarball or not. If the package is orphaned, and you *really* want to change whether it uses tarball-in-tarball, please contact the Debian QA team to get the update in Debian. If there is an active maintainer, please defer to their wishes. Not doing so makes it impossible to achieve sync within that upstream version, and will complicate any merging process. Please consider that those later working on a package may not share your preferenc

Ubuntu 8.04 / 8.10 graphics detection changes?

Zachary Amsden — 2008-11-20T14:58:05

Hi, I'm triaging a VMware related Ubuntu bug where the Ubuntu desktop fails to load, and will only run in low-graphics mode if VMI is enabled when running in a virtual machine. Notably, the bug only happens on AMD hosts; Intel machines are unaffected. Also, it does not occur in 8.04, but it a regression observed in 8.10. This leads me to suspect some kind of CPUID type detection was added between the two that could possibly be misvirtualized when running with paravirtualization. Could someone point me to the right place to be looking at how graphics mode selection selection might have changed between these two? Thanks, Zach

/etc/motd template

Dustin Kirkland — 2008-11-20T15:49:08

In Intrepid, the Ubuntu Server Team created a new package, update-motd, which provides a very flexible framework for dynamically and regularly generating a more interesting and informative /etc/motd. From a command-line-only (Ubuntu Server) perspective, a dynamic MOTD approximates a text-based alternative to the Desktop's system tray. In Intrepid, the primary user of update-motd is landscape-sysinfo, which provides some useful statistics about the current system. In Jaunty, we have already added hooks to update-notifier to provide the number of updates available, and when a system restart is required using update-motd. I have a few more ideas about programs that could "grow" update-motd hooks, and I'm sure you can think of a few too... My question to you is about the stock /etc/motd used in Ubuntu, pasted here for convenience: -------- Linux t61p 2.6.27-8-generic #1 SMP Thu Nov 6 17:38:14 UTC 2008 x86_64 The programs included with the Ubuntu system are free software; the exact distribution

Foundations Team Weekly Summary, 2008-11-14

Robbie Williamson — 2008-11-14T17:07:19

== Apologies == * LukeYelavich - on vacation * JamesWestby - at November Nexus == Activity reports == === Colin Watson === * Merged: clock-setup, kbd, console-setup, lilo-installer, busybox(including fix for #293586, though that will need to be backported to intrepid), anna, finish-install, netcfg, silo-installer, yaboot-installer, grub-installer, palo-installer, parted, base-files, partman-newworld, partman-crypto, partman-ext3, partman-jfs, partman-xfs, partman-reiserfs, iso-scan (phew) * Some debian-installer bug review, including cleaning up very old daily-installer-* directories from the archive (#40186). * Followed up to upstart/util-linux #273189 with a more detailed description of work to be done (noticed during finish-install merge). * Investigated casper #70566 at some length by way of sponsorship processing; I have a cleaned-up version of the proposed patch in my casper working tree now, but this is likely to need more complex fixes in usplash in order to display non-ASCII characters

Proposal for restricted drivers policy adjustment

Michael Hrabanek — 2008-11-09T16:50:33

I have been thinking recently about the restricted driver policy. It's nice to get hardware directly not supported by kernel to work at least by using non-free drivers, but on the other side this could be two-edged and lead to ignorance from hw manufacturer because of weakening the demand for free drivers or open hardware specification. So I believe it would be very useful to take the strenght of Ubuntu community and send the clean message to hardware vendors that we demand free drivers by adding for example checkbox for something like 'I agree with contacting the manufacturer of my hardware with demand for free drivers so I won't need to mess with this in the future again' and ask for user's name so that ubuntu community can send perhaps once per a month an e-mail with every signed name to vendor... Or something like that When our voices will be loud enough we can make change and get rid of proprietary drivers.

Help Needed on Language pack Testing.

Sanjeev Bhise — 2008-11-13T08:21:14

libtool updates

Scott James Remnant — 2008-11-17T10:13:23

package removal explanation?

Dustin Kirkland — 2008-11-12T00:15:23

Can anyone point me to documentation or mailing list discussion as to why xmms was removed from Ubuntu universe? * https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xmms I mean, I know that upstream for the project is essentially dead, and there are tons of other alternative music players available. But xmms remains rock-solid for my use cases (streaming over http), and I continue to build it in my PPA for each Ubuntu release.

Promoting a package in a pocket to main

Michael Casadevall — 2008-11-08T08:04:39

Relevant bug: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfprint4/+bug/211335 Essentially xfprint4 should depend on a2ps, but that is impossible since xfprint4 is in main (in gutsy, and dapper), and a2ps is in universe. Talking with the LP admins, promotion within a pocket is possible, but I'd believe this requires discussion before any actions are taken. Michael.

merges galore

Stefan Potyra — 2008-11-05T14:25:53

Merge-o-Matic and bzr packages

Scott James Remnant — 2008-11-05T11:56:29

Server Team 20081104 meeting minutes

Mathias Gug — 2008-11-04T20:06:12

Hi, Here are the minutes of the meeting. They can also be found online with the irc logs here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/Server/20081104. ==== Server FAQ ==== nijaba reviewed the questions from the ServerFaQ[1]. He added new ones at the bottom of the page. The next step is now to update the answers. ACTION: mathiaz to add a section about updating the ServerFAQ to the Roadmap ACTION: sommer and nijaba to start updating the answers ACTION: kirkland to review the RAID related questions [1]: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq ==== Ideas for Jaunty ==== mathiaz reminded that ideas for Jaunty should be added to the ServerTeam IdeaPool[2] page so that they can be reviewed and included in discussions for the next UDS. [2]: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/IdeaPool ==== Agree on next meeting date and time ==== Next meeting will be on Tuesday, November 11th at 16:00 UTC in #ubuntu- meeting.

Upcoming Ubuntu Kernel Team Meeting - Tuesday, 4th of November -17:00UTC - #ubuntu-meeting

Pete Graner — 2008-11-04T15:28:45

Hi, The next Ubuntu Kernel Team Meeting is scheduled for Tuesday, November 4th, 17:00 UTC in #ubuntu-meeting. NOTE: This is a channel and time change from previous meetings. If there are any discussion points or items for decision that you would like to add to the agenda [1], add an item to it and begin preparations to present a short introduction to the topic on #ubuntu-meeting during the scheduled session. [1]: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting If you have have been working hard on the project and want to let others know what you have been up to, try to summarize it on the Reporting Page [2]. [2]: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReportingPage As usual, anyone interested in the development of Ubuntu Kernel is welcome to attend. Thanks ~pete

Overall package list

Jeff Hansen — 2008-10-31T21:13:31

Hello, I am trying to find an equivalent to Gentoo's /var/lib/portage/world in Ubuntu. So far, it doesn't appear there is anything like it in anything but Gentoo, which is unfortunate. Basically I want to get a list of packages installed on the system, but *only* packages that actually affect the installation of dependent packages. For example, Ubuntu has the ubuntu-minimal, ubuntu-standard, and ubuntu-desktop "meta-packages" or virtual packages. All you have to do is install one of these packages (I'll use ubuntu-minimal for the purposes of my question), and apt will automatically figure out all of the dependent packages to install from there. After installing ubuntu-minimal, say I install the aptitude package. It will install a whole bunch of dependent packages and then install aptitude. At this point, the *only* two packages that really affect how my system is built are ubuntu-minimal and aptitude. That's it. I want a utility or option that will print out only these two package names