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FOSDEM 2009: CFP & more information ...

Martin Lasarsch — 2008-12-01T12:16:07

Hi internal suse list is on bcc:, reply to: is set to opensuse-project. Today i received the confirmation that openSUSE will have a devroom < at > FOSEM 2009! Yay! Because it's a little bit earlier next year (2008-02-07/08), we should start right now with the the planing. If you have no idea what FOSDEM is: http://www.fosdem.org/2009/ http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-marketing/2008-11/msg00025.html http://en.opensuse.org/FOSDEM2009 (previous years linked at the end) * CFP So lets start with the call for papers. We always have quite a big crowd of SUSE/Novell staff at FOSDEM, but we want more community talks. So if you have an idea for a presentation, please send it to the list. Yes, i said idea, not if you want to make it. If you want to make it: perfect. If not: we might find someone who can. In the end it's about interesting presentations the community want to hear. Please look at the old schedules to get an idea what happened the last years, or even watch the videos. The official deadline is

openSUSE Board Meeting Minutes, Nov19

Michael Loeffler — 2008-11-27T17:49:22

openSUSE Board Meeting Minutes Nov 19th, 8pm - 10:30pm CET Participants: Federico Mena Quintero (federico1) Hendrik Vogelsang (henne) Michael Löffler (michl) Bryen Yunashko (suseROCKs) Pascal Bleser (yaloki) Joe Brockmeier (zonker), for the 1 hour Advisory Board Zonker suggested to have an advisory board to enhance direct communication with sponsors. This board shouldn't be limited to sponsors ony but open to people having interest in openSUSE. This is kind of additional value for sponsor and was brought up by company which show interest to sponsor openSUSE. Discussion about pros and cons. Just for political reason, does it works, what is the benefit? Adds two-way for interaction and exchange for sponsors and people with a key role. It may add bureaucracy to the project also. At what cost does an advisory board comes? The existence of such a Board filled with nice names may add prestige, visibility and credibility to the project. openSUSE deserves some broader backing that we have today. Would

openSUSE GNOME meeting (2008/11/20)

Rodrigo Moya — 2008-11-21T12:14:25

Contrib and G:C update • Judging from recent ML threads, there's increased interest on Contrib • Discussion about G:C drops/updates/moves in G:C on the opensuse-gnome ML: • packages obsoleted by ones in factory (banshee, f-spot, pidgin, python stuff, tomboy, tasque) • other obsoleted (gnome-vfs-obexftp) • If no more feedback by Monday, all this will be done Promotion of GNOME within openSUSE 11.1 • Addition of opensuse-specific developer info to GNOME wiki (http://live.gnome.org) Wiki work • Wiki mockup updated soon • Icons are going to be difficult to pull off (tango icons) • Meeting agendas will get more attention Dropping/adding packages • Postponing this to the beginning of 11.2, too late to remove from 11.1 1-click install for 2.24 • Still some build problems preventing ymp creation

Linux in 5 seconds

Rajko M. — 2008-11-15T10:39:55

... Within five seconds of turning on this $360 USD gaming/enthusiast motherboard, you can be using Linux and surfing the Internet ... http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=869&num=1 Majority of users are still keep computer on only when needed. Fast boot option would make Linux serious alternative for them. Test hardware on installation, configure it once, ask user is there anything to change, put that in fast loadable image like Live CD, make it default GRUB boot option. Is answer in software appliances?

Projects

Joop Boonen — 2008-11-11T15:20:19

All, I was looking via: http://software.opensuse.org/search trough different packages in OBS. I saw that there quite a few duplicate projects. Some with identical new versions and some with old versions. I saw there are also quite a few overlaps with the fwbuilder package that I also have in OBS. So I'm wondering if there is a way to consolidate packages in groups so that more people can put effort in building packages and bundle their knowledge to get the best out of it. Currently a lot of people put a lot of time in "duplicate" packages. I'm wondering wouldn't it be better to start for for instance fwbuilder a security project that can be maintained by joined effort of people? In that way more package can be maintained in OBS I think? If this option if feaseble what is the best way to accomplish this? The project ofcourse needs to be created. Shall the individual OBS builder contact the other OBS builder? Regards, Joop Boonen.

openSUSE Board Meeting Minutes, Nov 5th

Michael Loeffler — 2008-11-10T22:00:36

The new openSUSE Board had its first meeting together with the people from the old board to hand over what's to do, old action items and to answer questions. Here are the meeting minutes of that meeting. openSUSE Board Meeting "Passing the torch" Nov 5th, 19:00 - 21:00 UTC via IRC on freenode Participants: Andreas Jaeger (AJaeger), Francis Giannaros (apokryphos), Stephan Kulow (coolo), Federico Mena Quintero (federico1), Hendrik Vogelsang (henne), Michael Löffler (michl), Bryen Yunashko (suseROCKs), Pascal Bleser (yaloki) General: *Who will chair this one? We agreed on a rotation in an alphabetical order, this meeting chaired by michl, next one by suseROCKs. *Who will take minutes? Michl volunteered to take minutes for every board meeting and publish them after review by the board. For confidentiality see below. *Additional topics? - zonker's presence short discussion about pros and cons about inviting him per default Result: we invite zonker if topics relevant for him are to be covered. Th

Novell internal programs on NON-OSS repository? (ie NovellClient)

Dominique Leuenberger — 2008-11-10T09:22:09

Hi everybody, Once more I would like to raise an issue with the Novell Client for Linux. On 11.1 (Factory) I managed to install the beta version for 11.0. Besides some hacks to circumvent some dependencies, I could install it and 'logging in' to the tree is possible. Nevertheless, copying files to a serever is not possible (df shows 0 bytes free... which I hope is only a joke). The issue might come from the fact that novfs kernel module from the linux client would be a later version, but fails to compile on a 2.6.27 kernel. Suggestion for a solution: -> Could we manage to bring those things in some official repositories (maybe NON-OSS)? Several parts of the client are probably not gpl (even though the kmp for example should be, as well as the yast plugin). Having it in the repositories might spot errors a little bit earlier, and we might finally end up with a version that actually works (the client for 10.3 for example is still in a 'beta' stage as non-public release, for 11.0 the integration with Nau

tv cards settings

manchette — 2008-11-09T14:49:09

Hello, is it possible to have the opensuse project include in its tv card installer the right source to get data from ? it looks like the installers often times do not do their job properly for Yast does not have all tv cards in it, so why do not directly use a list up to date and take it where it is the freshest ? : tv modules sources according to each kernel gives an up to date information of the supported tv cards for one kernel , therefore it seems a good choice to get the data from there and thus ease the install process for tv cards hardware. My current case : my provideo pv952 seems supported but the installer can't find the tuner even though i have the right modules in lsmod : saa7314 and tveeprom to auto detect the tuner. Thanks A l.o.t ;-) Fabrice

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Kevin Yin — 2008-11-09T06:31:33

openSUSE GNOME meeting (2008/11/6)

Rodrigo Moya — 2008-11-06T23:14:03

Contrib and G:C update Contrib is getting renewal effort by yaloki Lots of issues (policies) need discussion (opensuse-contrib-stAJ6ESoqRxg9hUCZPvPmw< at >public.gmane.org) Anything not in OSS and stable enough is a good candidate for Contrib Some limitations already clear: • no packages that require updates in FACTORY http://en.opensuse.org/Contrib Promotion of GNOME within the context of openSUSE 11.1 "New app" series for the weekly newsletter on news.o.o being planned, one for GNOME and one for KDE Who volunteers for writing (1 per week, so with rotation we can do great) about some cool new app/feature being added that week? Dropping and adding packages libsvg and libsvg-cairo dropped this week glitz in the process of being dropped Galago stuff will be moved to G:C or dropped Is ntfs-config still of any interest? For others, see thread on opensuse-gnome-stAJ6ESoqRxg9hUCZPvPmw< at >public.gmane.org 1-click install of GNOME 2.24 for 11.0 Building not done, so not much progress here Next meeting agenda We need

Cookies in opensuse.org

Sascha Manns — 2008-10-31T21:33:22

Hello, i'm using the en,de-Version from the Wiki, and the Buildservice. The Problem is, if i logged in in en.opensuse.org and logging me into de.opensuse.org, the session in the en-Wiki is closed. Is it possible to make for any Part of the Webside an own Cookie?

What is on git.opensuse.org?

Boyd Lynn Gerber — 2008-10-30T04:23:02

Hello, I heard that openSUSE has a git repo with projects that use git. The only problem is I have been unable to find out what projects. http://git.opensuse.org redirects to http://en.opensuse.org/Svn.opensuse.org So how do I find out what is available on git.opensuse.org. SVN is not git. I know what is on svn.opensuse.org. Any ideas where a list can be found? Thanks, -- Boyd Gerber public.gmane.org> ZENEZ1042 East Fort Union #135, Midvale Utah 84047

openSUSE GNOME meeting (2008/10/23)

Rodrigo Moya — 2008-10-23T17:46:36

Contrib and GNOME:Community update * Last night we had a meeting about this, but seems not everyone is on the same page captain_magnus created a list of apps not appearing in G:F, candidates to Contrib * One idea is to have home repo->G:C->contrib * Sometimes though, newest versions of packages in Contrib would be in G:C 1-Click install for GNOME 2.24 * G:F is still largely unbuilt because of slow factory rebuild * 11.0 build (only build, not publishing yet) will be enabled to start seeing problems in packages low in the stack ASAP Dropping/adding packages * vuntz working on dropping gnome-volume-manager Next meeting's agenda * Remember: in 2 weeks, timeshifted meeting * Will try having meetings every 2 weeks instead of weekly until 11.1 comes out * People should send status mails to the mailing list, for more discussions

how to send e-mails with my opensuse.org e-mail address?

Hartmut Meyer — 2008-10-20T20:16:55

Hi, Can someone explain to me how to send e-mail with my opensuse.org e-mail address? The address itself is working fine: I can receive e-mails. But what SMTP server would I for sending? And how to authenticate? Greetings from Bremen hartmut

OBS-Webclient Survey is online

Robert Lihm — 2008-10-17T12:12:50

Hello! Today we started a openSUSE Build Service Webclient online survey. We want to get more informations about the OBS-Webclient users, the used hard and software and (potential) use cases. If you use, used or want to use the OBS, please participate on the survey and help us to make a solid Webclient 2. OBS-Webclient Survey: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=d4ovT179sAK_2f1gmuApBAjg_3d_3d Thank you! Best Robert --- Robert Lihm, Webdesigner - Build Service Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg Tel: +49-911-74053-0 - rlihm-l3A5Bk7waGM< at >public.gmane.org ____________________________________________________________ SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) ____________________________________________________________ SUSE - a Novell business

Who are the "members of openSUSE community"?

Satoru Matsumoto — 2008-10-10T04:26:02

Hi, Just now, we have two definitions for the 'members of openSUSE community'. 1) As described in the preface of 'OpenSUSE Community': http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_community 'In fact, if you think you are a member, want to be a member, ask if you are a member, then you probably are one :-).' 2) As described in the "Community Structure" section of the same page: 'openSUSE Members are specifically acknowledged contributors who have brought a continued and substantial contribution to the project (browse member list), who enjoy some perks and will elect the next openSUSE board.' Again. Who are the 'members of openSUSE community', exactly? Now I can say "I'm one of the members.", because my openSUSE membership application has been approved by the board and my name has been listed on the member list. But, how about my friends, who are using openSUSE and may be potential good contributors? Are they members or not? Andearas Jaeger mentioned in the announcement for his 'Retiring f

FYI I'm retiring from the board...

Andreas Jaeger — 2008-10-09T08:59:25

FYI, I published yesterday at: http://lizards.opensuse.org/2008/10/08/retiring-from-the-opensuse-board/ I have served as chairperson of the openSUSE board the last year and would like to announce that I decided to pass the honours on for the next election period. I’ve made this decision out of personal plans for the next year that will not allow me to devote as much time to the board as it deserves since I’ll be some time on paternity leave. In my professional role I will stay involved with the openSUSE project and I will support the new chairperson fully to make a smooth transition. The new chairperson will be announced at the same time as the new board members, at the end of this election. I enjoyed being openSUSE chairperson - working together with excellent board members (thanks Coolo, Federico, Francis, and Pascal), internal and external community members to move openSUSE forward in areas like openSUSE “members” (I would really love to see a better name), forums, the distribution, marketing

Last Day For Granting Franchise Votes

Andrew Wafaa — 2008-10-08T11:34:21

Phase1 of the Board Election process[0] comes to a close at 1200 UTC on 09 October 2008. That means after that time there will be no additional people eligible to vote for candidates. Franchise votes are possibly the least understood aspect of the election process, this is even after the best efforts of the Election Committee and Candidates. No one is to blame, it's just fact. So let me try once more to explain what the Franchise voting is all about. In a nutshell an openSUSE Member has the ability to grant a registered user, but not member, the privilege to vote in the upcoming Board Election. Why? Simplisticly it's to get more voters/users/contributors involved in influencing how the openSUSE project progresses. There are 2831 registered users now, but only 212 Members - so according to my bad maths that makes about 7.5% eligible to vote. That to me isn't entirely representative of the community, so in comes the Franchise vote, we members have the ability to increase that voting percentage to 15%.

openSUSE GNOME meeting (2008/10/02)

Rodrigo Moya — 2008-10-02T23:23:27

11.0 updates Mozilla updates coming soon MozillaFirefox, mozilla-xulrunner*, MozillaThunderbird, and seamonkey were all updated over the last week, all in Mozilla repo Contrib and GNOME:Community http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-gnome/2008-09/msg00087.html Need to decide the list of packages to move, a meeting will be held next Wednesday (15th Oct) at 22:00 UTC. People willing to help packaging existing packages in GNOME:Factory or add new GNOME software, please attend Promotion of GNOME within openSUSE 11.1 Promotion of the above mentioned meeting to be done by suseROCKS Wiki work http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Wiki_Layout Packagers meeting There will be regular packagers meetings to find ways to better coordinate activities openSUSE-wide (http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2008-10/msg00005.html) osc-gnome plugin being changed to work with any repository, which should help distro-wide to better organize work and submissions by contributors osc-gnome Docs on the wiki now (http://en.opensuse.org/

I propose a packagers meeting

Stephen Shaw — 2008-10-02T15:50:05

I think it would be useful to gather all packagers together and have a meeting. I think this would help maximize our efforts and help out new comers to opensuse packaging. Maybe once a week on Wednesday. With community/contrib repos and being able to contribute to openSUSE factory, more organization among the packagers in the community could help develop a great set of repositories and help share the work load that the current packages have. Last night made me think about this. I packaged up the new gimp 2.6 for factory and submitted it (which took some time to get everything together). It was rejected because someone else already had done it. If I had known that someone else was working on it, I could have put all of that effort into another package. Thanks, Stephen Shaw Proud 2008 openSUSE Board Candidate

giving away my 2nd vote for the board election

Martin Lasarsch — 2008-10-01T14:22:58

Hi Because i don't really have a better idea how to choose, all people i have in mind are probably already members and can vote anyway. i will do it this way: It's not really first come first serve, just sends me a _private_ email and i pick someone who i know from the list or some other parts of the project. You don't have to explain why you want to have my 2nd vote and i obviously don't want to know who you will vote for. I will decide it on my own, totally unfair, undemocratic and biased :-) You have to be registered on users.opensuse.org, before the 1st of September. To make it easier please send me your username you use on users.o.o. I will not awnser any of the private mails, except the one who will get the vote and i will post a re: to this mail when i found someone. Thanks.