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    <title>Spell Deprecation</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.sourcemage.discuss/9381</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Can someone please outline the proper procedure to deprecate spells
(and possibly post it on the wiki)?

remove the spell if there is no direct replacement for it.
If there is, you add an up_trigger to cast its replacement and an
up_trigger to dispel_self, replace the contents of PRE_BUILD, BUILD,
and INSTALL with true, comment out the SOURCE info in DETAILS, and
remove any remaining files (other than HISTORY). Is that correct?

In case anyone is wondering, I want to deprecate howl (it currently
fails to build and is long dead) and replace any current depends on it
with -sub COMPAT_HOWL avahi.
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    <dc:creator>Sukneet Basuta</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-25T21:51:16</dc:date>
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    <title>SPELL &gt; SCRIPT</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.sourcemage.discuss/9372</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;For all the spellwriters,

even while $SCRIPT_DIRECTORY and $SPELL_DIRECTORY are equal in
functionality, please use the last one as it actually makes more sense.

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    <dc:creator>Vlad Glagolev</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-22T21:13:28</dc:date>
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    <title>stable-rc-0.61 REcut and ready for testing (dub 2)</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.sourcemage.discuss/9358</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi everyone,

stable-rc 0.61 is REcut and ready for testing again.

Since we have new up-to-date chroot images now, the process of testing
an upgrade from 0.60 to 0.61 should go smoothly.

The release target is *June 15th*. It will take a bit more time than
usually, cause we had a notable pause from previous stable release.

The tarballs have been signed and uploaded to our server and will be
propogating out to the mirrors within six hours.

To download the grimoire manually, get
http://codex.sourcemage.org/stable-rc.tar.bz2 or specifically
http://codex.sourcemage.org/stable-rc-0.61.tar.bz2 .

GPG signatures are available at
http://codex.sourcemage.org/stable-rc.tar.bz2.asc or
http://codex.sourcemage.org/stable-rc-0.61.tar.bz2.asc .

As always don't forget to file any bugs against our issue tracker[0] so
we can resolve them and integrate the fixes before release. New version
'0.61-rc' is still there, so use it when submitting the bugs.

Let's give this new stable-rc a good testing!

[0] http://www.sourcemage&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Vlad Glagolev</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-11T23:37:15</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.sourcemage.discuss/9344">
    <title>general comment</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.sourcemage.discuss/9344</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;As a new user, reading the recent discussion, I thought I'd make a general
comment. I've been using linux for about ten years and have enjoyed
installing and using various different distros, usually falling back on
Gentoo. I installed Smgl a couple of months ago, and it immediately became
my primary OS (I currently have 7 others on my computer). Admittedly, my
install is pretty basic. I'm using mostly stable with a couple of test
spells and a couple I've written. I thoroughly enjoyed installing it and it
has been very solid and a delight to use (no issues with util-linux). My
main worry is that it will cease to be actively developed.
To the developers: It's a great system, you've done a great job, please
don't stop.

Dan
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    <dc:creator>Dan Kociela</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-04-23T22:10:22</dc:date>
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    <title>patches</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.sourcemage.discuss/9337</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;I have a patch to a spell. The patch size is ~ 10k bytes, 200 lines

Is it better to compress the patch or not?
If it is not compressed, git can do a better job of reducing space usage.
Thoughts?

Treeve
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    <dc:creator>Treeve Jelbert</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-04-22T17:59:45</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.sourcemage.discuss/9333">
    <title>util-linux 2.21 and inittab update in FINAL</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.sourcemage.discuss/9333</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi,

I just got bitten by an util-linux update breaking my login. Seems like this is http://www.sourcemage.org/issues/110 and there is code in FINAL dealing with this:

if [ "${VERSION:0:4}" == "2.20" ] &amp;amp;&amp;amp; [ "${OLD_SPELL_VERSION:0:4}" == "2.19" ]; then
  message "New version of util-linux needs to update /etc/inittab ..." &amp;amp;&amp;amp;
  cp $INSTALL_ROOT/etc/inittab $INSTALL_ROOT/etc/inittab-$(date +'%Y%m%d%H%M') &amp;amp;&amp;amp;
  sed -i "s:/dev/tty:tty:" $INSTALL_ROOT/etc/inittab &amp;amp;&amp;amp;
  message "Updated"
fi &amp;amp;&amp;amp;

Now, of course I broke this by doing the update too late, jumping from 2.19 to 2.21. So I have two questions about this:

1. Was the intention to delete the FINAL code when updating to 2.21? Because now it is dead meat right there.
2. I don't really like the sed line there ... it doesn't check if there is actually agetty in the line it works on. There are other getty programs.

So ... what's the intention here? Just remove the code as the update to 2.20 is history?


Alrighty then,

Thomas


PS: I want to add that I really, r&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Thomas Orgis</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-04-21T06:36:55</dc:date>
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    <title>[PATCH] Fix Atom specs clash</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.sourcemage.discuss/9330</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;
Signed-off-by: Ismael Luceno &amp;lt;ismael.luceno&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;gmail.com&amp;gt;
---
 32/ia32/intel/x86/atom                  |    4 ++--
 64/x86_64/intel/em64t/{atom =&amp;gt; atom_64} |    2 +-
 2 files changed, 3 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
 rename 64/x86_64/intel/em64t/{atom =&amp;gt; atom_64} (80%)

diff --git a/32/ia32/intel/x86/atom b/32/ia32/intel/x86/atom
index 86f6e26..054a669 100755
--- a/32/ia32/intel/x86/atom
+++ b/32/ia32/intel/x86/atom
&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;&amp;lt; at &amp;gt; -1,8 +1,8 &amp;lt; at &amp;gt;&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;
-CPUNAME="Intel Atom"
+CPUNAME="Intel Atom, 32bit mode"
 if use_gcc2; then
   CFLAGS="-march=i686"
 else
-  CFLAGS="-march=atom"
+  CFLAGS="-march=atom -m32"
 fi
 HOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
 FAST="-O3"
diff --git a/64/x86_64/intel/em64t/atom b/64/x86_64/intel/em64t/atom_64
similarity index 80%
rename from 64/x86_64/intel/em64t/atom
rename to 64/x86_64/intel/em64t/atom_64
index d53e16b..247fc4a 100755
--- a/64/x86_64/intel/em64t/atom
+++ b/64/x86_64/intel/em64t/atom_64
&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;&amp;lt; at &amp;gt; -3,7 +3,7 &amp;lt; at &amp;gt;&amp;lt; at &amp;gt; CPUNAME="Intel Atom 64bit (all except Z5xx, Z6xx and N2xx)"
 if use_gcc2 ; then
   CFLAGS="-march=i686&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Ismael Luceno</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-03-25T08:11:30</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.sourcemage.discuss/9318">
    <title>Grimoire Lead vote</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.sourcemage.discuss/9318</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;According to [1], we're supposed to have a vote for the Grimoire Lead in
March. As it's now mid-March, I'm going to try to get the ball rolling
by placing some nominations.

I hereby nominate the following mages:

Andraž 'ruskie' Levstik
Vlag 'Stealth' Glagolev
Arjan 'abouter' Bouter

1: http://wiki.sourcemage.org/SourceMage/Voting_Policy

&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>flux</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-03-16T10:24:23</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.sourcemage.discuss/9317">
    <title>z-rejected push failing</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.sourcemage.discuss/9317</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Looks like I can't push to the z-rejected repo. I've never pushed
to this repo before, so probably it's just a permission issue.

Can I get access, please? *_*
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    <dc:creator>Ismael Luceno</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-03-09T00:19:53</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.sourcemage.discuss/9315">
    <title>4 updated spells | 1 new spell</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.sourcemage.discuss/9315</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi everyone. Just a few updated spells as I do
no longer have git access to the grimoire.

If you prefer patch files for the next batch
of updates let me know.


updated spells:

fasm      1.69.40
gerbv     2.6.0
meld      1.5.3
pcb       20110918


new spell:

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    <dc:creator>Sven Lemke</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-03-05T18:04:47</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.sourcemage.discuss/9314">
    <title>XAnim and other proprietary codecs</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.sourcemage.discuss/9314</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;I guess, nowadays those codecs are pretty rare, but even in the case
they were not, I think it's worth taking note of which of those are not
provided by FFmpeg.

Perhaps we can deprecate those proprietary packages.
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    <dc:creator>Ismael Luceno</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-03-04T23:21:01</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.sourcemage.discuss/9310">
    <title>QT 4.8.0 compile failure.</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.sourcemage.discuss/9310</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Seems something got messed up the last update I did.  I have several
spells that fail on glib2, gtk+2, or gtk+3

QT4  4.8.0 is one that won't build now.    It is getting this error when
I try building it.  

https://lists.webkit.org/pipermail/webkit-unassigned/2011-November/382526.html

So not sure if something in not working with pkgconfig and it is not
getting the paths it needs or what.

CuZnDragon
Robin Cook
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    <dc:creator>Robin Cook</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-03-04T04:30:13</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.sourcemage.discuss/9309">
    <title>python3 spells - status</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.sourcemage.discuss/9309</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;supporting python3 will be a never ending process.

the python website lists 600+ packages which support python3, most of which we 
do not have as spells, although a few are new packages specificly intended for  
python3.

I have created a new section, py3, to which I have moved about 20 spells which 
I actually use, together with a few new ones which are python3 only versions 
of existing spells.

Where applicable, they build with either version of python and run on my 
notebook. Users of python2 should notice no difference.


Changes made were as follows;
new py3/FUNCTIONS
DEPENDS: depends PYTHON

Upstream support: automatic or via special build option(sqlalchemy).

Others: run 2to3 in pre_build. In a couple of cases also patch the sources.

I found a couple of cases where the upstream project appears to be 
dead(elixir, chardet), but which I use, so I made some patches.

The major omissions at the moment are bzr and mercurial, but the upstream 
projects have experimental python3 support, neither of whic&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Treeve Jelbert</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-03-02T08:39:23</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.sourcemage.discuss/9306">
    <title>Atom archspecs clash</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.sourcemage.discuss/9306</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;The attached patch fixes the clash which makes 64bit version
unavailable. Also adding -m32 or -m64 as corresponding.
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    <dc:creator>Ismael Luceno</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-02-26T05:28:30</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.sourcemage.discuss/9303">
    <title>python3</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.sourcemage.discuss/9303</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;i have a need to upgrade some spells to use python3

Rather than make changes to several individual spells, as part of this I have 
a script which will change all python spells to allow either python3 or 
python2.

As far as I can tell there are only 3 spells which specificly depend on 
python3.

I realise that most of the spells are not tested against python3.

Most people only have python2, so would not notice any difference.
I doubt if many people only have python3.


Those people  who try to use python3 will eventually discover a few spells 
that do not work. Fixes will be found in due course.


I would make the initial changes in a branch, but I think that this should 
have a very short life, otherwise it would live forever as some of the spells 
would never be tested.

Any thoughts?

Treeve
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    <dc:creator>Treeve Jelbert</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-02-23T18:47:52</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.sourcemage.discuss/9302">
    <title>Announcing stable grimoire 0.60-8 release</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.sourcemage.discuss/9302</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Stable grimoire version 0.60-8 has been released!

Since new stable release is planned only for March, here's yet another
security update for 0.60 stable branch as well as containing little
bugfix about jfsutils for boxes with separated /usr partition.

The tarballs have been signed and uploaded to our server and will be
propogating out to the mirrors within six hours.

To download the grimoire manually, get
http://codex.sourcemage.org/stable.tar.bz2 or specifically
http://codex.sourcemage.org/stable-0.60.tar.bz2 .

GPG signatures are available at
http://codex.sourcemage.org/stable.tar.bz2.asc or
http://codex.sourcemage.org/stable-0.60.tar.bz2.asc .

Following updates were integrated[0]:

Bor Kraljič (1):
      jfsutils: fixed long description wrap (scripted)     (cherry picked from commit aabbb87b5c9b389215d12ca627fa3c16358bf9e0)

Ladislav Hagara (2):
      shadow: upstream patch added
      libpng 1.2.47, SECURITY_PATCH=7, CVE-2011-3026     (cherry picked from commit c07eecf81bd14574187288cd7dfe98e20bccbc&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Vlad Glagolev</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-02-23T12:42:43</dc:date>
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    <title>stable-rc-0.61 REcut and ready for testing</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.sourcemage.discuss/9296</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi everyone,

stable-rc 0.61 is REcut and ready for testing. It's REcut, cause during
some of consequences the "old" one has become a bit deprecated, so the
better idea is to merge our current work in test and refresh release
candidate branch for our next stable grimoire release.

The release target is March 15th.

The tarballs have been signed with my regular smgl key (447D316C) and
uploaded to our server and will be propogating out to the mirrors
within six hours.

To download the grimoire manually, get
http://codex.sourcemage.org/stable-rc.tar.bz2 or specifically
http://codex.sourcemage.org/stable-rc-0.61.tar.bz2 .

GPG signatures are available at
http://codex.sourcemage.org/stable-rc.tar.bz2.asc or
http://codex.sourcemage.org/stable-rc-0.61.tar.bz2.asc .

As always don't forget to file any bugs against our issue tracker[0] so
we can resolve them and integrate the fixes before release. I've just
also created new version '0.61-rc' there, so use it when submitting the
bugs.

I hope we will discuss and form/&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Vlad Glagolev</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-02-15T01:04:35</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.sourcemage.discuss/9294">
    <title>Re : /usr merge and partitions</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.sourcemage.discuss/9294</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;David,

Good point about the partitions.

As M$ is pushing (U)EFI BIOS / Firmware this is going to become a real
problem. Booting EFI BIOS currently requires GPT partitions and GRUB2 or
elilo. (Or is it the other way around?) One big massive partition will
not work. A basic x86_64 system currently has 4 partitions
(bios_grub,boot,root,swap). No GUIDs in the fstab for GRUB2 on GPT either.

The last thing a Linux Distro needs to do is recreate DLL Hell.

Working / Puzzling out the JHBuild system,
Corbin

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    <dc:creator>Corbin Bird</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-02-08T19:00:30</dc:date>
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    <title>kde4 4.8.0 update</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.sourcemage.discuss/9292</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hellow!

After not working much on SMGL I decided to upgrade our KDE to 4.8.0.

As usual I used branch to update changes. However this is major
version change and it is a bit more complicated than just version
bump. But there were no big problems. But lets get to the point of
this mail:

Upstream spllited kdeutills package into separated programs. So there
is tarball ark-4.8.0.tar.bz2. I was just about to create spell ark
when I remembered that spell ark was part of kde3 (which was removed
from grimoire).

So now I have a dilemma whatever the same spell names as there were in
kde3 can be used or not?

Due to that dilemma I stopped my work until we decide what to do. I
pushed changes into branch [1]. I also created spell ark and added
some code in PREPARE [2]. That was taken from discussion a while ago
[3].

Kind regards,
Bor

[1] http://scmweb.sourcemage.org/?p=smgl/grimoire.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/devel-kde48
[2] http://scmweb.sourcemage.org/?p=smgl/grimoire.git;a=commitdiff;h=a91d0a78c372bebe6f3b5baf7f&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Bor Kraljič</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-02-08T14:36:13</dc:date>
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    <title>/usr merge</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.sourcemage.discuss/9277</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi,

any plan with /usr merge [1]?
Personally I don't like it but I am a realist. We have no chance to
change the upstream.
New versions of crucial upstream packages rely on /usr merge.
Do we want to use devel-udev-kmod git branch by the same way as
devel-xorg-modular or we plan to integrate it soon?

[1] http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/TheCaseForTheUsrMerge

&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Ladislav Hagara</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-02-07T10:16:01</dc:date>
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    <title>Developer and Lead Developer Clean Up Time</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.sourcemage.discuss/9276</link>
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As per our Developer Organization policy listed here:
http://wiki.sourcemage.org/SourceMage/Developer_Organization

The following two Lead Developers are removed and are now General
Developers for missing two consecutive votes:
 * Arwed von Merkatz
 * Elisamuel Resto

The above is not subject to a vote, it's an automatic demotion to
General Developer. I'm just informing the entire community.


Additionally, The following General Developers are each individually
nominated and seconded for a Removal Vote because they have had no
activity in a year.

 * Bearcat M Sandor - Last grimoire activity October 2009
 * Dave Josephsen - Last grimoire activity April 2010
 * Finn Haedicke - Last Grimoire activity Sept 2010
 * Juan Carlos Torres - I cannot find any grimoire history for Jucato
                        or any combination of his name...
 * Juuso Alasuutari - last Grimoire Activity May 2009
 * Karsten Behrmann - last Grimoire Activity August 2008
 * Paul Beel - Anot&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>David Kowis</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-02-03T04:14:39</dc:date>
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