http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.advisory-board hourly 1 1901-01-01T00:00+00:00 http://gmane.org/img/gmane-25t.png http://gmane.org http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.advisory-board/10753 <pre>Hello, I see that there are some local communities who want to be included to the same local fedoracommunity.org subdomain, such as Indonesia and now Italy. I'm directly involved in that issue, as webmaster of fedoraonline.it, the actual it.fedoracommunity.org and greatest italian community. I think this could be a problem in the future too, so why not discuss about some guidelines which helps the local communities but also the website team to define clearly the state of a community? I'm thinking about a solution like the Ubuntu communities: obviously, everyone can create a new local community, but only one community rappresent the single State. I remember there are regular "tests", which verify the activity of the local community and if the site is just online. If the test fails another local community site has the right to take the place of the precedent one. Sharing resources is more efficient than spreading users I think, so it should be obvious that the goal of the fedoracommunity</pre> robyduck< at >fedoraonline.it 2012-05-24T09:53:05 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.advisory-board/10751 <pre>As you have (hopefully) heard by now, elections for the Fedora Board, FESCo, and FAmSCo are quickly approaching. In each election cycle, a series of town hall meetings is held to give community members and opportunity to ask candidates questions - and hear their answers - via IRC. The town hall schedule for the upcoming election is as follows: Fedora Project Board: * Tuesday, May 29, 2012 at 17:00 UTC * Wednesday, May 30, 2012 at 20:00 UTC FESCo (Fedora Engineering Steering Committee): * Wednesday, May 30, 2012 at 17:00 UTC * Thursday, May 31, 2012 at 20:00 UTC FAmSCo (Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee): * Sunday, May 27, 2012 at 16:00 UTC * Monday, May 28 at 17:00 UTC Not sure what time that is? Use a handy-dandy time zone calculator to find out when to show up: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html Important information about how you can participate in the town halls via IRC, as well as the details of each town hall meeting, can be seen on the wiki here: http://fedoraprojec</pre> Robyn Bergeron 2012-05-23T11:43:56 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.advisory-board/10750 <pre>*“And on the 17th release he saw the name, and YAY, it *was* good.” It recently dawned on me that some in Fedora have a goal of trying to make *everyone* happy. It’s NOT gonna happen. You are not engaged in *reality*. I would also suggest that you may not fully understand the greatness of the Fedora Project. We are NOT vanilla. We dont always take the *safe route*. We live on the edge, an edge that we usually forge ourselves. If you want to play everything safe, go ahead. I can point you to some very nice folks, in other Distros. IMHO, we have 3 camps in the *naming debate*. In the middle we have some common sense folks that want to create a balance (the core design team as well as Inode0). The other two parts are extremists. I realized that some of the push was from revisionists, and those with *no sense of humor*. I have decided to take up the other extreme of defending ANY perceived attack on the GLORIOUS Beefy Miracle. My offer to the other extreme; *stand down* and let the grown-ups decide this</pre> Mark Terranova 2012-05-22T22:16:30 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.advisory-board/10749 <pre>Logs: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-05-16/fedora_board_meeting.2012-05-16-18.30.log.html Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-05-16/fedora_board_meeting.2012-05-16-18.30.html ===================================== #fedora-meeting: Fedora Board Meeting ===================================== Meeting started by rbergeron at 18:30:47 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-05-16/fedora_board_meeting.2012-05-16-18.30.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call and Gathering of Steam (rbergeron, 18:31:43) * probinson is unable to attend (gholms, 18:32:28) * rdieter sends regrets, as does abadger1999; cwickert is travelling to fudcon kuala lumpur (rbergeron, 18:33:09) * Announcements (rbergeron, 18:35:35) * F17 - RC1 for final/GA is available now. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test-announce/2012-May/000449.html (rbergeron, 18:36:21) * Please help out in testing</pre> Robyn Bergeron 2012-05-16T20:07:20 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.advisory-board/10747 <pre>Greetings! This is a friendly reminder that the Fedora Board will be having a public IRC meeting Today!, Wednesday, May 16, at 18:30 UTC. This meeting is open to everyone, participation and input is welcomed. We do have a few people expected to be out this week, we shall see if we have a quorum or not at meeting time, but Q&amp; A at the bare minimum can continue. If someone is available to do a ping in all the channels to notify of the Board meeting, I would be appreciative of that - some people miss it (and yes, I know, others detest it!). I'll be en route back from a doctor visit around the time when we'd want to do so (approximately a half-hour prior to the meeting.) When: 18:30 UTC (2:30pm US-Eastern), on May 16, 2012 Where: in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net (assuming no conflicts) Meeting Info:http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board/IRC Meeting Secretary: Robyn Bergeron Today's agenda is: * Announcements * Open Q&amp; A * Open Discussion items: ** Release Naming: Checking in to see if someone is wi</pre> Robyn Bergeron 2012-05-16T14:49:00 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.advisory-board/10715 <pre>At the last Board Meeting, the Board looked at the poll results asking whether people felt like continuing to name releases. The results seemed to show that many people do like having a name associated with Fedora releases. However, the discussion before and after has shown there is a desire to improve upon the current method of selecting the names. The Board decided that it would be worthwhile to come up with a new procedure for selecting the name for the Fedora 19 release and beyond to attempt to solve some of the issues that have been brought up. The Board is looking for volunteers who would like to do two things: (1) Answer the following questions: * What benefits does the Project get from the current release naming process? * What changes do people want to see in a revised process? (2) Come up with at least one proposal and analyze it according to the answers to the previous questions. If anyone is interested in coming to a weekly meeting to work on this, please feel free to contact me. I</pre> Toshio Kuratomi 2012-05-09T08:39:18 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.advisory-board/10714 <pre>I'm pleased to announce the appointment of Garrett Holmstrom to the Fedora Board. In this election cycle, three Board seats are open for election, and two Board appointee seats are open; the first appointee, Garrett, is being appointed prior to nominations opening, and the second will be appointed after elections are completed. Garrett (aka: gholms) has been involved in the Cloud SIG since the "early days" (early 2010, to be more precise), as the maintainer of the euca2ools package. As the group has progressed, he's taken on a number of tasks, doled out much advice and opinion, and has shown himself to be an excellent leader and communicator. He's also a regular in the #fedora-devel channel, willing to help out and answer questions as he can. I'm delighted that he has agreed to serve on the Board; I believe that, as a community, we should constantly strive to nurture and grow new leadership, and I think that Garrett's communication skills and positive attitude will be a fantastic asset to th</pre> Robyn Bergeron 2012-05-08T17:29:41 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.advisory-board/10708 <pre>Hi there! Summary: We have received a request on the websites list[1] to change the link in fedoracommunity.org (thereafter called "fc.o") from "id.fedoracommunity.org" to "fedora.or.id". After digging a bit, I found that the ID community have two "portals", and that they are not working together. With this email, I kindly ask either the board or the FAmSCo to come back to us (infra AND websites) if any action has to be taken (about the id.fc.o domain and/or the fc.o website). As I've not signed for community management, I am not sure to follow the whole story starting now :). The story: Back in November 2011, Arif Tri Waluyo have requested the id.fc.o domain name, to point to his community portal. Once approved by the board and done in the infra, he has sent to the Websites team a request to add it on fc.o[2]. By that time, the website was really awesome, with a really nice them. I remember having congratulated them. Yesterday, we received a request from Yafiz Haris Nasution[3] to change "id.fedoracommu</pre> Kévin Raymond 2012-05-04T08:13:17 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.advisory-board/10704 <pre>Sorry for the confusion. :) We're meeting at 18:30 UTC, so for those in the US, that is 2:30pm eastern, 11:30 am pacific. On IRC. -Robyn _______________________________________________ advisory-board mailing list advisory-board&lt; at &gt;lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/advisory-board</pre> Robyn Bergeron 2012-05-02T17:06:49 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.advisory-board/10701 <pre>Greetings! This is a friendly reminder that the Fedora Board will be having a public IRC meeting on Wednesday, May 2, at 18:30 UTC. This meeting is open to everyone, participation and input is welcomed. When: 18:30 UTC (1:30pm US-Eastern), on May 2, 2012 Where: in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net (assuming no conflicts) Meeting Info: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board/IRC Meeting Secretary: Robyn Bergeron Today's agenda is, approximately: * Open Q &amp; A * Follow-up on Toshio's ticket, Board as a Single Point of Failure See you there, -Robyn _______________________________________________ advisory-board mailing list advisory-board&lt; at &gt;lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/advisory-board</pre> Robyn Bergeron 2012-05-02T15:48:12 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.advisory-board/10697 <pre>Executive Summary The Fedora Board had a public IRC meeting on Wednesday. We barely had quorum si we stuck largely to discussing the F18 naming election which needed to be done soon. Toshio also announced a first draft of policy to make the Board less of a Single Point of Failure and sent the draft to the advisory board list for comment. ========================================= #fedora-meeting: Fedora Board IRC Meeting ========================================= Meeting started by abadger1999 at 18:32:59 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-18/fedora_board_irc_meeting.2012-04-18-18.32.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (abadger1999, 18:33:17) * gomix, ke4qqq, gomix, pbrobinson, rdieter, and rbergeron won't be here today (abadger1999, 18:34:56) * Announcements (abadger1999, 18:35:50) * congratulations to everyone who helped get Fedora 17 beta out the door yesterday (abadger1999, 18:37:36) * Open Floor (abad</pre> Toshio Kuratomi 2012-04-20T23:10:03 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.advisory-board/10680 <pre>Since the problems withgetting the new banner onto fedoraproject.org for the SOPA blackout day, the Board has had a ticket open to look into ways that it can be less of a single point of failure in the future. I've organized the ideas presented onhttps://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Toshio/sopa-post-mortem into some guidleines and policy that the Board can implement to "keep itself honest" -- making so that they address at least some of the issues that showed up during the decision and implementation ofwhat Fedora would do forthe SOPA blackout. The draft is here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Toshio/Board_single_point_of_failure Although not exactly a work in progress, this is by no means set in stone. Feel free to read, comment, and suggest alternatives to address the issues brought up on either of the two pages. Depending on how much people want to change here, the Board will discuss and possibly vote on adopting those guidelines at their next week's meeting. THanks, -Toshio __________________</pre> Toshio Kuratomi 2012-04-19T00:10:55 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.advisory-board/10679 <pre>I hereby respectfully petition the Fedora Board to dissolve the current FAmSCo and call new elections. FAmSCo voted in their meeting tonight to shorten the term of the lowest vote-getters from the last election and to have those as the seats that get re-elected next to start the new staggered terms. It also just so happens that the ones that voted for that proposal are the ones that would benefit by that proposal by not having to stand for reelection at the next election. This is a conflict of interest and thus they should not be allowed to vote on that matter. If they want to implement the staggered terms starting with the next election, all members of FAmSCo should stand for reelection, and have it noted that the top voted people would serve two releases and the others would serve one. This way the voters would know what we are voting for. Also, our current FAmSCo seems unwilling to vote gbraad out, despite his repeated failure to attend meetings, or participate in any discussions. Respectfully subm</pre> Nick Bebout 2012-04-18T15:54:28 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.advisory-board/10674 <pre>Greetings! This is a friendly reminder that the Fedora Board will be having a public IRC meeting Today!, Wednesday, April 18, at 18:30 UTC. This meeting is open to everyone, participation and input is welcomed. When: 18:30 UTC (2:30pm US-Eastern), on April 18, 2012 Where: in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net (assuming no conflicts) Meeting Info: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board/IRC Meeting Secretary: Rex Dieter Today's agenda is: * Announcements * Open Q &amp; A * Peter Robinson on his Board member goals * Open Tickets: ** 130: Make the Board less of a Single Point of Failure * Any other business? ** We can look through, report status, and close old tickets if we have time remaining. * Next public Board IRC meeting time/date confirmation: May 2, 2012, 18:30 UTC -Toshio _______________________________________________ advisory-board mailing list advisory-board&lt; at &gt;lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/advisory-board</pre> Toshio Kuratomi 2012-04-18T15:42:16 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.advisory-board/10673 <pre>Fedora Board Phone Meeting Minutes:: 2012-04-11 When: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 &lt; at &gt; 18:30 UTC Where: Phone Meeting Invitees: * Guillermo Gomez * Jon Stanley * Rudi Landmann * Rex Dieter Attendees: * Christoph Wickert * David Nalley * Robyn Bergeron * Peter Robinson * Toshio Kuratomi * Jaroslav Reznik (on Gobby only today) * Jon Stanley (showed up a little later) Regrets: * none Today's lucky secretary: Christoph Wickert Today's goal reporting folks: Rudi Landmann, Rex Dieter ======================================= * Announcements none * Quick updates on Rudi/Rex board member goals none of them was present in the meeting * Updates on trademark stuff * Tickets/Actual Meat of Agenda #117 Fedora on Launchpad.net: Page cannot be removed for technical reasons but we can change the text. Toshio might be able to contact somebody to update it once we provide something. #95 Board's position on spins: Add Adam to CC and have him update the ticket in order to figure out which questions still persist and </pre> Christoph Wickert 2012-04-11T19:28:02 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.advisory-board/10665 <pre>People are starting to reasonably ask questions about what is going on with this election now. The published schedule shows that we are supposed to be in the middle of the voting step now but we don't seem to have started it yet. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Name_suggestions_for_Fedora_18#Naming_Schedule Has the list been dealt with by the Board at this point? Has the result been passed on for legal review yet? Can we change the wiki to indicate the delay so folks stop trying to vote now? John _______________________________________________ advisory-board mailing list advisory-board&lt; at &gt;lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/advisory-board</pre> inode0 2012-04-10T16:53:15 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.advisory-board/10664 <pre>Greetings! This is a friendly reminder that the Fedora Board will be having a public IRC meeting Today!, Wednesday, April 4, at 18:30 UTC. This meeting is open to everyone, participation and input is welcomed. When: 18:30 UTC (2:30pm US-Eastern), on April 4, 2012 Where: in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net (assuming no conflicts) Meeting Info: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board/IRC Meeting Secretary: David Nalley Today's agenda is: * Announcements * Open Q &amp; A * David Nalley on his Board member goals * TM Guidelines discussion, ongoing * Open Tickets: ** 130: Make the Board less of a Single Point of Failure ** 84: Annual User Survey ** 81: Where should start.fp.o point? (ie: Non-FOSS search engine, or ?) * Any other business? * Next public Board IRC meeting time/date confirmation: April 18, 2012, 18:30 UTC -Robyn _______________________________________________ advisory-board mailing list advisory-board&lt; at &gt;lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/advisory-board</pre> Robyn Bergeron 2012-04-04T15:24:13 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.advisory-board/10653 <pre>I'm back again and while I tried asking questions and giving feedback to the earlier draft on the legal list none of my questions were answered there so this time I'll just give my feedback to the Board knowing that legal reads this list as well and can take them or leave them as they deem appropriate. If the Board shares any of my concerns perhaps they are better situated to work with legal to resolve them. The current draft for reference is located here http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pchestek/TMGuidelinesDraft#Non-Software_Promotional_Goods My first concern which still remains in this draft is singling out Fedora Ambassadors when they are not the only contributors who have done this work. So the way this reads now is if you are a Fedora Ambassador this long section with 3 external links applies to you and if you are doing exactly the same thing but you are not a Fedora Ambassador it seems you just ask the Board for permission (which frankly seems to be the path of far less resistance to me). Please </pre> inode0 2012-03-29T17:08:56 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.advisory-board/10649 <pre>I recall from the last public IRC meeting that the Board was planning/hoping to perhaps make a decision about approving the new guidelines at its next public IRC meeting (which I think is April 4). I know the Fedora ambassadors in North America have this subject on the agenda for the next FAmNA meeting on April 3 and I understand from the most recent FAmSCo meeting that they plan to discuss it also during its next meeting on April 4 (later in the day after the Board meeting has concluded). To enable regional ambassador groups and FAmSCo to provide feedback on this to you would it be possible to delay any Board decision until the public IRC meeting on April 17? John _______________________________________________ advisory-board mailing list advisory-board&lt; at &gt;lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/advisory-board</pre> inode0 2012-03-29T15:34:53 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.advisory-board/10644 <pre>Hi, Concerning the Fedora trademark policy: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal:Trademark_guidelines#Non-software_goods Would this his the right place to request an approval for commercial usage of Fedora Logo? Some background: The selling would happen thru NixStickers.com (site still under construction at the moment); the site is about OpenSource related stickers; *nix like distros, software (Apache, Tomcat, etc.), Database (PostgreSQL) and programming languages (Python, Perl, etc.). The selection will depend on the responses/approvals from the trademark/logo owners. The idea is to raise the awareness of OpenSource software with fashionable stickers that developers and users can use to decorate their hardware. The site is commercial, but it is not really about making money; just enough to keep it floating (estimated price for a sticker is around 0.70-1 euros at the moment). I would like to request permission to use Fedora logo and perhaps text Fedora on a sticker - see attached file for early draft versi</pre> info< at >nixstickers.com 2012-03-29T10:45:39 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.advisory-board/10639 <pre>Today the Board decided that the Fedora 18 release naming process was already in progress and therefore we would continue to work with the current process for naming Fedora 18. However, we could change things for Fedora 19 and above. The question was how. Several of the Board members felt that the release names were valuable, at least one expressed the opinion that the current method of choosing release names was fun and one expressed synmpathy with getting rid of the release names. All pretty much agreed that they wanted to know whether there was an overwhelming feeling that release names should go, should not go, or just that the current system was broken. What we'd like to do is have a poll that runs at the same time as the Fedora 18 Release Name voting to determine whether to continue to have release names for Fedora 19+. The poll will be in the voting system and have three choices: * Get rid of release names * Keep release names with the present process * Keep release names but have the Board and</pre> Toshio Kuratomi 2012-03-28T22:44:02 Search the mailing list at Gmane query http://search.gmane.org/?group=$group=gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.advisory-board