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FUDCon F11 Boston

Paul W. Frields — 2008-12-01T17:19:10

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Fedora Board IRC meeting 1900 UTC 2008-12-02

Paul Frields — 2008-11-27T18:39:11

The Board is holding its monthly public meeting on Tuesday, 2 December 2008, at 1900 UTC on IRC Freenode. The Board has settled on a schedule that puts these public IRC meetings on the first Tuesday of each month. Therefore, the next following public meeting will be on 6 January 2008. For these meetings, the public is invited to do the following: * Join #fedora-board-meeting to see the Board's conversation. This channel is read-only for non-Board members. * Join #fedora-board-public to discuss topics and post questions. This channel is read/write for everyone. The moderator will direct questions from the #fedora-board-public channel to the Board members at #fedora-board-meeting. This should limit confusion and ensure our logs are useful to everyone. We look forward to seeing you at the meeting. Paul

Election Town Halls

Matt Domsch — 2008-11-24T17:16:32

When setting up the upcoming elections, based on participant requests, I announced we would have some IRC Town Halls, for each of the groups being elected, between Thursday December 4 and Saturday December 6. I'd like to propose each group have at least one, and if the group so wishes, two, such town halls. If two, schedule them at somewhat opposite times of day to allow greatest community participation in at least one. Schedule: non-overlapping, first-come-first-serve by the groups. I've put up a placeholder schedule for the Board town halls, subject to revision based on availability of the nominees. Committee chairs: please discuss with your nominees the best times they are available, and schedule on the wiki page [1] accordingly. Moderators: consider this a call for moderators. If you would like to moderate one or more sessions, please contact me directly. Moderators will take questions from the -public IRC channel, ask them in the -townhall channel, and try to keep the conversations on topic.

Info labels freemedia?

Frank Murphy — 2008-11-23T16:01:51

Hi, Wondering what the fab position in getting some labels made locally, for my discs sent out as part of the freemedia program. Nothing fanciful, info purposes only eg. ------------------------------------------------------- Fedora Free Media Program http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia ------------------------------------------------------- Which could be stuck on the address face of the package\envelope. The legal notice from here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/CDArt could be applied\printed to media as supplied from art-group art. Frank

Fedora 10 GA Release Planning Meeting

John Poelstra — 2008-11-19T20:02:15

2008-11-19 Invitees: Spot Callaway -- Fedora Engineering manager (present) Máirín Duffy -- Art (covered by Ricky) Dimitris Glezos -- Translation (regrets) Paul Frields -- Fedora Project Leader (present) Jesse Keating -- Release Engineering (present) Mike McGrath -- Infrastructure (present) Bill Nottingham -- Development/FESCo (present) John Poelstra -- Organizer (present) Jonathan Roberts -- Marketing Max Spevack -- Ambassadors (covered by Karsten) Karsten Wade -- Documentation (present) Will Woods -- Quality Assurance (present) Ricky Zhou -- Websites (present) Things that we want to do better based on experience of Preview Release --typo in mirror manager link --do a manual click through of web pages --Matt Domsch handled processes before, but he was unavailable --process is documented now so others will know what to do --better coordination of release day announcement Mike McGrath --ready to go --https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/report/9 Karsten (representing Documentation and Am

Fedora IRC Board Meeting Recap 2008-11-18

John Poelstra — 2008-11-19T17:42:28

Recap and full IRC transcript found here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board/Meetings/2008-11-18 * Public IRC Meeting == Topics Discussed == * With the announcement of a Fedora Server special interest group (SIG), Will Fedora have a server release? * What about a searchable Fedora knowledge base? * What progress is being made on the Fedora 11 and Fedora 12 schedule discussion? * What about creating a history of past release schedules? == IRC Transcript ==

Fedora Board IRC meetings

Rahul Sundaram — 2008-11-18T18:42:37

Hi, Can someone post the IRC logs and meeting summaries? Rahul

Fedora Board Recap 2008-NOV-11

John Poelstra — 2008-11-14T06:28:44

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board/Meetings/2008-11-11 == Roll Call == Attendees: John Poelstra, Paul Frields, Matt Domsch, Jesse Keating, Jef Spaleta, Karsten Wade, Mike McGrath, Seth Vidal, Bill Nottingham, Spot Callaway, Harald Hoyer, and Chris Tyler == Follow-up to Previous Business == === Spins Process === * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board/Meetings/2008-11-04#Communicating_Spins * https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-advisory-board/2008-November/msg00026.html * Discussion is continuing led by Jon Stanley == New Business == === Personal Trademark Usage === * A community member approached the board to brand non-software goods and sell them for personal gain * Paul continuing discussion on this topic with legal counsel * Would like to create FAQ around trademark usage that will hopefully answer questions like this * '''RESOLUTION''': the board denies trademark usage to individuals for non-software goods for personal benefit === Extending Updates for EOL Releases === * Background: **

Final Release Planning Meeting

John Poelstra — 2008-11-13T20:44:40

Sending this mail out to representatives from each of the key Fedora teams to have a short meeting on Wednesday, November 19, 2008 at 18:00 UTC (1 PM EST), to make sure we are all aligned for the F10 Final Release scheduled for the following Tuesday, November 25, 2008 Please coordinate within your team if the leader has changed or if someone is attending in your place. Then please let me know. I plan to send telephone conference details directly to the following people on Monday. Spot Callaway -- Fedora Engineering manager Máirín Duffy -- Art Dimitris Gelzos -- Translation Paul Frields -- Fedora Project Leader Jesse Keating -- Release Engineering Mike McGrath -- Infrastructure Bill Nottingham -- Development/FESCo John Poelstra -- Organizer Jonathan Roberts -- Marketing Max Spevack -- Ambassadors Karsten Wade -- Documentation Will Woods -- Quality Assurance Ricky Zhou -- Websites I will send another reminder next Tuesday along with the conferencing information. John

Fedora trademark guidelines: More comments

Rahul Sundaram — 2008-11-13T11:54:39

Hi http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal/TrademarkGuidelines "Spins using the Fedora Trademarks or the Secondary Mark may be subject to additional requirements imposed by the Fedora Board or its designees or delegates." This sentence is quite confusing to me. Why would spins using the secondary mark? I thought the secondary mark is not regulated by the Fedora Board at all anyway. It is not clear from a reading of the guidelines that Spins = Official variants Remixes = Community variants Rahul

Fedora Board IRC meeting 1800 UTC 2008-11-18

Paul W. Frields — 2008-11-12T12:52:50

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Fedora 11 schedule proposal

Jesse Keating — 2008-11-12T00:11:20

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Spins process - technical requirements

Jon Stanley — 2008-11-09T20:07:08

A little while ago, a few of us had a meeting via phone[1] discussing the spins process for F11. One of my action items from that meeting was to come up with a list of technical requirements for Spins. The Spins SIG already had some up[2], so for the most part, I didn't see a need to go reinventing the wheel. There is some overlap between my (woefully incomplete, mostly because I envision it being integrated into the existing page) draft[3] and the existing process. This is intended to start a discussion of what other technical requirements that there are beyond those which are in either of the two wiki pages. The end goal is to have something that is approved by both the Board and FESCo, and executed by the Spins SIG. [1] http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-October/msg00087.html [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Spins/CommunitySpinGuidelines [3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Jstanley/SpinsTechRequirements

Fedora Board Recap 2008-NOV-04

John Poelstra — 2008-11-08T01:18:27

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board/Meetings/2008-11-04 == Roll Call == Attendees: John Poelstra, Spot Callaway, Matt Domsch, Jef Spaleta, Paul Frields, Bill Nottingham, Harald Hoyer, Jesse Keating, Karsten Wade, Chris Tyler, Seth Vidal == Fedora Wide Elections == * Date and timing around upcoming "Fedora wide" elections is confirmed ** Nomination process starts now and closes on December 3rd ** Voting to take place from December 7 to 20th * all groups are good with December dates * Matt is setting up some IRC town halls so people can get to know the candidates == FUDCon F11 Update == * group hotel code is in place * everyone should visit the wiki page: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon/FUDConF11 * still working out details of facilities == Communicating Spins == * How will the "Spin" vs "Remix" trademark concepts be messaged to the community if the term "Remix" is used with the secondary mark? * Anyone can make a ''Remix'', with or without involvement with Fedora * A ''Fedora Spin'' mean align

Request for trademark usage approval

Yuan Yijun — 2008-11-06T13:10:13

Hi, We some fedora ambassadors are setting up a new website (currently planned as http://{bbs,wiki,news}.fedora-zh.org ). The "bbs" site is for user support, the "wiki" site is open to anyone who will write fedora tutorials, and the "news" site is for translated announcements and activities among Chinese users. Our copyright and license plans are posted on fedora-docs: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-docs-list/2008-November/msg00050.html https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-docs-list/2008-November/msg00052.html But ke4qqq in #fedora-docs told me to best request FAB for trademark usage first. So would you please grant us the permission to use fedora trademark on the website, including domain names, site names and contents? What are the detailed requirements? Actually we had requested for logo usage on bbs.fedora-zh.org (the first up and running) as well as our mailing list "fedora-activity" on google group. I'll write to get the permission for the rest subsites. Thanks!

LWN subscriptions.. update.

Jeff Spaleta — 2008-11-04T21:01:09

I've been sitting on this for a while and It's just slipped my mind. Okay so we started with 75 lwn subscriptions, right now we have 71 in use... with no one waiting. Now out of those 71 subscriptions... several haven't been used in 6+ months. Here's what I want to do. I want to do call out for new contributors interested in a subscription. Filling subscriptions on a first come first serve basis. If there are more than 4 people interested I want to cull the current subscribers with 6+ months of inactivity as of today's record and give those subscriptions to the new people. Culling inactive subscribers from most inactive forward. I'd like to repeat this again in about 6 months. Thoughts? -jef

Spins

Mike McGrath — 2008-10-31T18:27:33

So we've got a problem. In particular this deals with the Sugar spin. This spin was not submitted in time for the Fedora 10 release, if it were we wouldn't have a problem. I hark on that because it feels like a lot of people try to get away with bypassing the freeze. Creating features like a spin require commitment, responsibility and accountability. Not getting features in prior to the feature freeze is irresponsible and, IMHO, a reason to have to wait until the next release. Having said that, Sugar and OLPC are a pretty big deal. The spin has been approved by the board and is (or will be) an official spin. We have hosting for unofficial spins. I know this delineation seems very minor "well if you have hosting for unofficial spins, why not just host this official spin there" The reason is the accountability I mentioned earlier. There's a lot going on in Fedora right now. There are a lot of hosting options in Fedora Infrastructure. Each were designed and built for a specific purpose. But I cannot

Fedora Board Recap 2008-OCT-28

John Poelstra — 2008-10-29T22:49:44

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board/Meetings/2008-10-28 == Roll Call == Attendees: John Poelstra, Karsten Wade, Seth Vidal, Jesse Keating, Matt Domsch, Jef Spaleta, Harald Hoyer, Bill Nottingham, Paul Frields, Chris Tyler Regrets: Spot Callaway == Trademark guidelines == * Art team has finalized secondary mark artwork * Paul to move new trademark policy to final name space and add final links == Fedora Sugar Spin == * https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-advisory-board/2008-October/msg00039.html * '''RESOLUTION:''' unanimous board approval for Fedora Sugar Spin == Upcoming Elections == * Coordinate proposed dates with other teams and seek out others ** Ambassadors ** Project Board ** FESCo ** Translations ** Fedora 11 release name * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board/History * Start a nomination process soon and close on December 3rd * Need to set a date for Dec 7 to 20th * The following seats will be open: ** appointed seats: Bill Nottingham and Karsten ** voted seats: Matt Domsch and Jeff Sp

F10 Preview Release Planning Meeting Recap

John Poelstra — 2008-10-29T22:29:25

2008-10-29 Preview Release Planning Meeting Invitees: Spot Callaway -- Fedora Engineering manager (present) Máirín Duffy -- Art (present) Dimitris Gelzos -- Translation Paul Frields -- Fedora Project Leader (present) Jesse Keating -- Release Engineering (present) Mike McGrath -- Infrastructure (present) Bill Nottingham -- Development/FESCo (present) John Poelstra -- Organizer (present) Jonathan Roberts -- Marketing Max Spevack -- Ambassadors (regrets) Karsten Wade -- Documentation (present) Will Woods -- Quality Assurance (present) Ricky Zhou -- Websites (present) == Meeting Preface == o Meeting to make sure we are ready for the Preview Release and coordinate across teams as necessary o While good ideas may come out of this meeting for how to make Fedora better we are not here to make policy or process decisions --those should be made in individual teams as part of their regular decision making process == Key Points == o Meeting was held in record time: 30 minutes o Open releng ticketes: https:

Any more info about the potential for more collaboration withmoblin?

Jeff Spaleta — 2008-10-29T04:31:54

So its been a couple of months. Did anyone do any follow-up with the moblin guys to see if there are some additional points of collaboration with them? I was thinking about it again in the context of our trademark policy rework, asking myself the question if moblin wanted to tag themselves as a Fedora remix do they fall into the bounds of our secondary mark usage? And if they do, do we want to invite them to make use of the mark and to associate more strongly with us? Which led me to reviewing what I know about the switch over they did. Did we ever get any feedback about additional points of collaboration concerning extending our technical services? Do they know about our AOS tools and feature goals? It seems all i have are questions. -jef

Blocker Bug Review Meeting :: Monday < at > 14:00 UTC

John Poelstra — 2008-10-25T02:18:09

A meeting is being held to review the current blocker bugs in anticipation of the Final Development Freeze this Tuesday, October 28th. All teams (thus the cc to f-a-b) in Fedora are welcome to join in and help. WHEN: Monday, October 27, 2008 < at > 14:00 UTC (10 AM EDT) and going as long as we need to WHERE: irc.freenode.net #fedora-blocker Fedora 10 Blocker: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=438943&hide_resolved=1 Fedora 10 Preview Blocker: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=446449&hide_resolved=1 There still remain approximately 600 rawhide bugs that have not been triaged for potential blocker status and should be considered as well. These bugs are here: http://tinyurl.com/6llac8 Other tracker bugs of interest are here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/HouseKeeping/Trackers John