http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.nfp hourly 1 1901-01-01T00:00+00:00 http://gmane.org/img/gmane-25t.png http://gmane.org http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.nfp/1152 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 = Official Foundation Announcement = All Gentoo community members please take note that the Foundation Bylaws have been changed by unanimous vote of the Trustees. You can find them at the link below for your reading pleasure. http://www.gentoo.org/foundation/en/BylawsAdopted.xml = Developers = All Gentoo Developers not currently members of the Gentoo Foundation are strongly encouraged to join before 11 January 2009 to be eligible to nominate, vote, and/or stand in the upcoming trustees election. For developers that desire to join the foundation, we have all the necessary info available internally, so please simply email trustees-aBrp7R+bbdUdnm+yROfE0A< at >public.gmane.org stating you wish to join. = Community = Recent changes to the Foundation Bylaws have expanded foundation membership to include individuals from the entire Gentoo community. In the endeavor to facilitate greater community and communication between the developers and the users of Gentoo and ope quantumsummers 2008-11-17T22:52:19 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.nfp/1151 Our system was unable to process a payment for your outstanding Google AdWords account balance using your primary credit card. For the time being, your account is still open, and your ads are still running. However, we require you to update the payment information in your AdWords account very soon in order to ensure continued ad serving. 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Click 'Save Changes' when you ha Google AdWords 2008-11-07T16:20:30 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.nfp/1150 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Ladies and Gentlemen, The November meeting of the Trustees of the Gentoo Foundation Inc will be held on Sunday 16th November at the normal time of 19:00 UTC in irc.freenode.net in #gentoo-trustees. Your local time may have changed recently - keep that in mind You may read the draft agenda at http://xrl.us/ovinq Please reply to this email with any comments or additional agenda items. The highlight of the meeting will be the discussion and possible adoption of the revised bylaws http://xrl.us/ouqhk which will make it easier for anyone who can demonstrate that they further the aims of the Gentoo Foundation Inc., to become members. Diuscussion on gentoo-nfp please or reply to this email. - -- Regards, Roy Bamford (NeddySeagoon) a member of gentoo-ops forum-mods treecleaners trustees -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkkUWwgACgkQTE4/y7nJvasNywCfUqR1sBJ+0UQ5u93UrHwGzmm/ IAoAnAhc0OQ/TTtX7GGoJAK+lVTbOzlU =jMeW -----E Roy Bamford 2008-11-07T15:13:06 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.nfp/1148 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Ladies and Gentlemen, The October meeting of the Trustees of the Gentoo Foundation Inc will be held on Sunday 19th October at the normal time of 19:00 UTC. You may read the draft agenda at http://xrl.us/orb8f Please reply to this email with any comments or additional agenda items. - -- Regards, Roy Bamford (NeddySeagoon) a member of gentoo-ops forum-mods treecleaners trustees -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkjhF+MACgkQTE4/y7nJvavxDgCfY7s43jUzPWDERvQ56hVYsA0d k8wAoKfMAkmA+r4kcVsKr3te9wF9S8oI =OzS+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Roy Bamford 2008-09-29T18:00:59 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.nfp/1147 The Foundation bylaws require that we have at least four officers (president, vice president, secretary, and treasurer). They allow us to have a chairman, vice chairman, and other vice presidents as needed. (Bylaws, Article VI). All officers are selected by the Board. Two of these officers have very specific duties: The chairman presides at board meetings, and the vice chairman presides if the chairman is absent. If we do not have these two officers appointed, then their roles fall to the president and the vice president. However, the primary duties of the president and vice president are more traditional: President is the Foundation's CEO and vice president acts in the president's absence. And as we have seen in our efforts to set up a bank account, some banks are interested in personal information about these two officers. In at least one case, we were slowed down because Roy happens to live in Scotland and he is the president. If he had also been the Chairman, we could have named someone else as Ferris McCormick 2008-09-15T14:10:43 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.nfp/1144 -------- Forwarded Message -------- From: Peter Asplund <peterasplund-xYBMnk5ip2SzQB+pC5nmwQ< at >public.gmane.org> Reply-To: peterasplund-xYBMnk5ip2SzQB+pC5nmwQ< at >public.gmane.org To: cafepress-aBrp7R+bbdUdnm+yROfE0A< at >public.gmane.org Subject: European alternative Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:09:59 +0200 (CEST) Hi Gentoo! I'm wondering if it is possible for the Gentoo community to set up an European alternative to CafePress, since their shipment fees to europe is simply ridiculous. I looked around and found one (http://www.creativecraving.co.uk/), but perhaps there are even more of them? I hope it is an alternative, as long as it does not create any cost overhead for the Gentoo foundation/community. I just think it's too bad that my Gentoo mug cost twice the amount in Sweden than it would in USA =) Regards Peter Asplund Sweden Ferris McCormick 2008-09-11T11:56:26 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.nfp/1143 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Following the resignation of Tom Gall as a Trustee and as Secretary of the Gentoo Foundation Inc, the remaining trustees advertised the positions and are pleased to announce the following appointments :- dmwaters as Trustee quantumsummers as Secretary The notices can be reviewed at http://xrl.us/oqggv - -- Regards, Roy Bamford (NeddySeagoon) a member of gentoo-ops forum-mods treecleaners trustees -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkjCs2QACgkQTE4/y7nJvas9LgCgwQgbLlAY2ChEcK8nHT84Z+Ss 0yoAoMBmyvHnoPdCP7AVpJ0ThmipI/HW =aXaN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Roy Bamford 2008-09-06T16:44:14 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.nfp/1123 Despite the claims on the lists here that nobody else was reading the new bylaws, I know I did, and for the most part I agree with them. I do see the parts that are referred to as potentially controversial, but I've got good faith in the majority of trustees making the right decisions. That's why we elected them anyway. I do have some minor clarifications to request however, I'll start separate threads for them. Robin H. Johnson 2008-09-02T22:56:17 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.nfp/1121 Instead of coming to me and requesting I stop posting or etc. This is the result. How childish and petty, but I guess that's what Gentoo has become Reporter: Christina Fullam <musikc-aBrp7R+bbdUdnm+yROfE0A< at >public.gmane.org> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=236479 What a joke. I am un-subscribing from this list. Again score another for Chrissy. Who can't even be objective enough to remove herself and let another in a devrel etc to deal with it. Pathetic CoC enforcement. Plus how hard is it to subscribe using a new email address as I just did. This is some really productive stuff I must say. How many more ways can we piss of the few willing to do the work. Or drive them away entirely. Don't worry I will un-subscribe from this list. Leaving it to the others who seem to own and control it. William L. Thomson Jr. 2008-09-02T20:43:17 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.nfp/1097 Refer to bylaws that were approved in today's Trustee meeting: http://dev.gentoo.org/~neddyseagoon/docs/FoundationBylawsProposed_7.xml I cannot understand why a person cannot be on the Council and on the Trustees? We had someone do so in the past and no conflicts or issues arose. What is the reasoning that a person cannot serve on the technical team and the legal team? Please note: that I do not see validity in the statement 'what if Council asks for money and dual role person on the Trustee approves it' as I think that person would hold the same opinion regardless of being on both teams unless we are saying that we cannot trust our Council people to not make decisions in the best interest of Gentoo. Kind regards, Christina Fullam Gentoo Developer Relations Lead | Gentoo Public Relations Chrissy Fullam 2008-08-31T20:24:10 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.nfp/1090 I have submitted my notice to resign from the Gentoo Foundation, Inc. Which has been acknowledged. William L. Thomson Jr. 2008-08-27T21:59:00 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.nfp/1082 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 My Lords, Ladies and Gentlemen, The Adjourned August Meeting meeting of the Trustees of the Gentoo Foundation Inc will be resumed on Sunday 31th August at the normal time of 19:00 UTC. You may read the agenda at http://xrl.us/kkykb. The exciting part is really the vote on the bylaws http://xrl.us/om7ze For this to work comments and amendment proposals need to be in well before the meeting or the vote won't happen. Public discussion on -nfp please. - -- Regards, Roy Bamford (NeddySeagoon) a member of gentoo-ops forum-mods treecleaners trustees -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAki0czcACgkQTE4/y7nJvavR0QCdFvQ6Onf7+Pgb8Vn5ozFWmSM7 wHUAoKKvR/hf+O4rm5VZcNUrKj5ckZ9U =bhMq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Roy Bamford 2008-08-26T21:18:40 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.nfp/1079 Antarus suggested I get your opinion on this, since in theory you are the body who would be held accountable if I am misinterpreting the license. Thanks for your input! I will not add the patch mentioned until I hear a definite 'aye' from you folks. ------------------------------- Begin forwarded message: Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:10:18 -0400 From: Jim Ramsay <lack-aBrp7R+bbdUdnm+yROfE0A< at >public.gmane.org> To: gentoo-dev-aBrp7R+bbdUdnm+yROfE0A< at >public.gmane.org Subject: [gentoo-dev] License Interpretation IANAL, and I'm sure most of us aren't either, but I would appreciate some opinions on Bug https://bugs.gentoo.org/234542 and whether the binary patch proposed there conflicts with section 2.5.1 of the license agreement from Adobe: http://www.adobe.com/products/eulas/pdfs/Reader_Player_WWEULA-Combined-20060724_1430.pdf Specifically, here is the passage I'm wondering about: 2.5.1 You may not modify, adapt, translate or create derivative works based upon the Software. You may not reverse engineer, dec Jim Ramsay 2008-08-20T19:21:03 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.nfp/1074 Hello, My apologies for not continuing the previous thread, but at the time the replays to my previous message where sent, I was not subscribed to this list. Back to the issue, taking into account the corrections that Ferris McCormick kindly added and the positivism I sensed in his response, I talked with Bdale Garbee regarding us, Gentoo Fundation, joining the SPI and discussed the previous e-mail I sent as well as fmccor's replay. Basically the response I got was a confirmation on everything Luk Glass has told me before (my first e-mail), and he went a little bit more in detail regarding the legal services they can provide: bdale: there is a lawyer in a firm in New York who provides pro-bono services to SPI, the most recent thing his firm did was to give us an opinion on the licensing of thumbnails of game screen snapshots bdale: we have a relationship with the SFLC and can help get their attention on project issues in the past, when we have had legal issues in other countries, including Spain and Braz Yuri Vasilevski 2008-08-15T17:26:44 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.nfp/1062 Since Alex forwarded the original to -nfp, I'll forward my response as well. I didn't reply on -nfp originally because it started on -core. Regards, Ferris -------- Forwarded Message -------- From: Ferris McCormick <fmccor-aBrp7R+bbdUdnm+yROfE0A< at >public.gmane.org> To: Yuri Vasilevski <yvasilev-aBrp7R+bbdUdnm+yROfE0A< at >public.gmane.org> Cc: trustees <trustees-aBrp7R+bbdUdnm+yROfE0A< at >public.gmane.org> Subject: Re: [gentoo-core] Software in the Public Interest Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 11:50:22 +0000 Yuri, Thanks a lot. I think we have looking for some of this information. All, I've added a couple comments. On Sun, 2008-08-10 at 23:32 -0500, Yuri Vasilevski wrote: I would think so. Debian is a member, I believe. So also is the IRC OFTC network. We are a registered not for profit with the State of New Mexico, but we do not have 501(c)(3) Federal tax status (well, I don't think we are 501(c)<anything>). So this is useful. This is *extremely* useful. We do not have international law expertise, and lawy Ferris McCormick 2008-08-11T12:02:54 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.nfp/1060 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 All, The Gentoo Foundation Inc is recruiting http://xrl.us/om72w We can do with all the publicity we can get. - -- Regards, Roy Bamford (NeddySeagoon) a member of gentoo-ops forum-mods treecleaners trustees -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkid6DUACgkQTE4/y7nJvas+9QCgsvYIeJGwH9w8yiaUUwefh6FV hkkAn0vybVuXgHmWTevhCTivwuB87l0+ =lqWG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Roy Bamford 2008-08-09T18:55:39 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.nfp/1059 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 My Lords, Ladies and Gentlemen, The next meeting of the Trustees of the Gentoo Foundation Inc will be held on Monday (not the usual Sunday) 18th August at the normal time of 19:00 UTC. You may read the agenda at http://xrl.us/kkykb. The exciting part is really the vote on the bylaws http://xrl.us/om7ze For this to work comments and amendment proposals need to be in well before the meeing or the vote won't happen. Public discussion on -nfp please. - -- Regards, Roy Bamford (NeddySeagoon) a member of gentoo-ops forum-mods treecleaners trustees -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkid4h4ACgkQTE4/y7nJvau7kgCgr1ttjWmUJJMJdy4wCuFpodS2 kpYAn1YpXMwLe1ltGXLOSaL7f3dEg5lQ =D7hs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Roy Bamford 2008-08-09T18:29:42 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.nfp/1044 Over the past several weeks, and possible months. The Gentoo Foundation board of trustees has been discussing a bit on IRC and in direct private emails, the available banking options for Gentoo. Starting with the more major institutions like Chase, Citi, Bank of America, and Wells Fargo. The first issue we ran into was that no one lives in New Mexico. Some banks require a branch be within 50 miles from registered address. Others any address in the same state. Neither of which was a major road block. Until both required that we physically go into a branch to sign papers and open an account. Being that no Officer lives in New Mexico. That is not a practical option. Which ruled out both Chase and Citi. Chase required 50 miles, Citi within the state. Now Bank of America seemed to be a viable options with their online application. But a call to Bank of America reveals a few things. First that the application process could not be fully completed online. Second that all officers would have to go into a branch to William L. Thomson Jr. 2008-07-30T02:49:46 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.nfp/1043 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Team, The next meeting of the Gentoo Foundation trustees will be held in #gentoo-trustees on irc.freenode.net at 19:00 UTC on Sunday 13 th July. The agenda can be found at http://xrl.us/kj7em Additions welcome For the curious, the most recent revision of the draft bylaws can be found at http://xrl.us/iqzyg be sure to read the changelog and TODO at the end before you comment. (Comments to gentoo-nfp please) Only article 5 remains for individual scrutiny. The bylaws are not on this months agenda but some discussion can be fitted in under Any Other Business. - -- Regards, Roy Bamford (NeddySeagoon) a member of gentoo-ops forum-mods treecleaners trustees -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkhw/TUACgkQTE4/y7nJvatsjACggdOf5ntG1vNVzlsYR+rHtU5Q 8fEAn1VoOiy7jXKt4NJASCFkDCWXtMb1 =7sqc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Roy Bamford 2008-07-06T17:13:13 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.nfp/1042 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Team, I've updated http://xrl.us/iqzyg in line with our discussions on Sunday 29 June. Its not quite in the words we agreed, mostly to preserve the old structure but the intent of the agreement remains. (I think) We still have Article 5 to review. Any comments, contributions please respond to this thread. - -- Regards, Roy Bamford (NeddySeagoon) a member of gentoo-ops forum-mods treecleaners trustees -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkhpPLoACgkQTE4/y7nJvaul9QCdEHxthb4J+E/WLz6IRzYrpcuf 7PcAoLov0Eowd9fky8vDnhHNIWZOjmUi =7DzL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Roy Bamford 2008-06-30T20:06:10 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.nfp/1029 When I was thinking again about Gentoo's structure. The relationship of the Foundation and the Council. I thought of an odd scenario. The council rules the project, period. No contesting that and I am not looking to change that. That said, the Council decides to take some action within Gentoo. That decision and action requires funding. Now who's hands does the power lie in? At that point the Trustees, and if they choose not to fund the request. Then what? Council is denied their supreme authority. Hardly ideal, and I believe goes against the purpose of the council. Case in point. Last year for the Florida Linux Show, I had to ask and get Trustees approval to fund a booth at the show for Gentoo[1]. To me that seems like a decision that should fall to the Council not the Foundation. The only time the Foundation should deny a funding request/order from the council is if there is not adequate funds available. But it should not be up to a second body what areas get funded and don't. The Foundation isn't runni William L. Thomson Jr. 2008-06-11T02:39:30 Search the mailing list at Gmane query http://search.gmane.org/?group=$group=gmane.linux.gentoo.nfp