http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.linux.elitists hourly 1 1901-01-01T00:00+00:00 http://gmane.org/img/gmane-25t.png http://gmane.org http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.elitists/12536 _______________________________________________ linux-elitists mailing list linux-elitists< at >zgp.org http://allium.zgp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-elitists Karsten M. Self 2008-08-01T22:43:05 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.elitists/12534 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/29/AR2008072902077.html Teh Entar-Nick 2008-07-31T14:56:56 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.elitists/12532 From the political news files: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/26/michael-savage-lawsuit-ag_n_115103.html "In her ruling Friday, U.S. District Judge Susan Illston said people who listen to a public broadcast are entitled to use excerpts for purposes of comment and criticism." Of course, if the comment and criticism had used a circumvented copy of a DRM-restricted work, no such exception applies. Anyone got an example of a straight-up _political speaker_ who's using a DRM-restricted format, and a comment on or criticism of that speaker? Don Marti 2008-07-27T21:49:36 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.elitists/12529 ----- Forwarded message from Richard M Stallman <rms< at >gnu.org> ----- From: Richard M Stallman <rms< at >gnu.org> CC: linux-elitists< at >zgp.org Subject: Re: [linux-elitists] Defective By Design Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 13:14:51 -0400 Is it just me, or is it the FSF that seems to have gone defective? Maybe neither. I think you and some others have misunderstood and misjudged our protest. Their latest anti-iPhone campaign[1] crosses some lines I'm not too pleased with. They're urging people to setup a meatspace denial of service attack against the "Genius Bars" in Apple Stores world wide That's not what we are doing. We have asked people to go to Apple stores and show Apple's staff their opposition to Apple's DRM. Describing this with terms such as "denial of service" and "disruption" is untrue. Calling it an "attack" is an exaggeration. When people go one by one to a store and tell the staff what they think, that's not an attack. When Apple implements DRM, when Apple deactivates unlocked iPhones Aaron Porter 2008-07-27T20:13:27 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.elitists/12527 Is it just me, or is it the FSF that seems to have gone defective? Their latest anti-iPhone campaign[1] crosses some lines I'm not too pleased with. They're urging people to setup a meatspace denial of service attack against the "Genius Bars" in Apple Stores world wide in an effort to educate Apple about it's product is "restricting your freedoms". They previously posted "5 reasons to avoid iPhone 3G"[2], a brief but quite valid list of reasons users might want to avoid the iPhone (curiously omitting the lack of any support for non-iTunes activation, use, etc). Their last reason for avoiding the device -- "iPhone is not the only option." seems to negate the militant tactics they're adopting now. I've been a longtime supporter of the FSF (up to but not including prefixing Linux with GNU), contributing my own time and money as well as pushing through software "purchases" by my employers. I'm not sure I want to be associated with the group after this. Sure the iPhone is sexy, but there has been sexy hardwa Aaron Porter 2008-07-26T20:31:54 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.elitists/12525 Hi Folks: I'm very pleased to announce that Untangle & ACCRC have teamed up with LinuxWorld (Aug 5-7) for our second Installfest for Schools. The first ACCRC/Untangle Installfest for Schools in March refurbished 350 Ubuntu computers for schools[1]. This time we've gotten a large booth on the expo floor and will have workstations setup for volunteers to refurbish recycled computers with Ubuntu and GnewSense. We particularly need help with the following: 1)Installing Ubuntu and/or gNewSense 2)Hacking older hardware and identifying good/bad components You can signup for a work station here: http://www.untangle.com/installfest Also, if you know of a school in need of computers that’s willing to try GNU/Linux please nominate them here: http://www.untangle.com/index.php?option=com_collect&task=installfestNominate&Itemid=1426 And if you have an older computer that you want to donate or recycle, please bring it to LinuxWorld. ACCRC will have a collection booth setup and can provide tax deductable rece Andrew Fife 2008-07-24T20:00:50 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.elitists/12523 On a properly set up home or office network, it should be difficult to poison the nameserver completely from the outside -- for a long time it's been best practice to put your public DNS on a separate machine. Of course an attacker can easily trick an application on the inside into doing a bunch of DNS queries -- the simplest example is that a user could visit a malicious web page with a bunch of images. Should applications that handle untrusted data be keeping track of the number of times they get NXDOMAIN for subdomains of one domain -- some kind of wrapper around getaddrinfo -- then refusing to query again if there are so many that it looks like an attack? Maybe with a "I'm not looking up another randomcrap.example.com domain for you" dialog, or maybe just stop processing the offending web page or whatever other data source is causing the queries? Don Marti 2008-07-24T16:40:04 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.elitists/12521 Anyone following the "Obfuscated TCP" kernel patch set and userspace library? http://code.google.com/p/obstcp/ Fast opportunistic crypto at the TCP level. Looks like a useful way to make it difficult for ISPs to use services such as Phorm and NebuAd to collect user tracking data and ad revenue -- so webmasters should be all over it. And, of course, it's protection against forged RST attacks. Doesn't work if the attacker is willing to spend more and do an MITM attack, though. Don Marti 2008-07-18T17:16:08 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.elitists/12520 Looks like the Marketing types of the world are getting emboldened by our pro-spam FTC... http://weblog.infoworld.com/gripeline/archives/2008/06/ftc_says_yes_yo.html I'm starting to see spam that looks like it traces back to a semi-legit company. Anyone else getting spam linking to disposable domain names that copy the content from patchperfect dot com -- with the company's actual contact info and an apparently working unsubscribe link? whois has officialtvwebsite822 dot com at the same postal address as the original site: 6070 Mission Gorge Rd. Suite 1, San Diego, CA 92120. Either this is a very good joe job, or it's another attempt by DMA types to push the boundaries. Looks like an opportunity for another Gevalia-style lawsuit. Of course, the infomercial impresarios behind this grass seed company will start another company selling something else, but there's probably enough money to make it worthwhile for a small ISP or mail host with a reasonably priced lawyer. Don Marti 2008-06-14T18:10:59 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.elitists/12512 _______________________________________________ linux-elitists mailing list linux-elitists< at >zgp.org http://allium.zgp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-elitists Greg Folkert 2008-06-12T06:27:55 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.elitists/12508 Yes, quite possibly. But I'm willing to accept baby steps in our direction. While fully GPL-free drivers are very much the ideal, I'll take BSD-free as two steps forward, and semi-proprietary as one step forward away from Microsoft-world. I think this strategy is more effective than the FSF-style all-or-nothing confontational approach. It's more in line with Linus' and Ubuntu's approach and look where it's got them vs FSF. Heck, even Debian is not hostile to proprietary software; they just say it won't be in Debian. Anyhow, there's no pure Libre laptop in this class and I think it's a huge step ahead to (a) have Linux installed and (b) see the manufacturer cooperate with and document other peripherals not of its own manufacture that work with it. I hope not, but I'm not such a purist that I'll avoid all proprietary software: I think infrastructure (OS) should be Free, and more importantly, that file and network standards should be Free, but I don't mind letting the market decide about apps, as long as Tony Godshall 2008-05-19T21:32:15 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.elitists/12503 I was tempted by the eee-pc but stayed out because of the screen (800 pixels wide? heck, my cell phone does that!). To me, a device needs 1024 wide to render a web page properly (due to rigid web designers) and at least 100dpi. But now with the HP2133 coming out (ship date ETA 6/1 at last visit to HP.com) I looked around again I found that there's now an eee-pc with a bigger, sharper screen, and another very interesting ultraportable: the wibrain (heheh). I post here the specs I collected in the hopes it'll save someone else some trouble: wibrain b1lh 1024x600 4.8" 247dpi1.15lb$499512M RAM 30G VIA C7M 1.2GHz CPULinux/Ubuntudynamism.com or redorbit.com wibrain b1le 1024x600 4.8" 247dpi1.15lb$6491G RAM 60G VIA C7M 1.2GHz CPULinux/Ubuntudynamism.com or redorbit.com eee pc 900 1024x600 8.9" 133dpi2.1lb$5501G RAM 20G IntelLinux/Susecentralcomputer hp 2133 1280x1024 8.9" 184dpi2.8lb $550512M RAM 20G VIA C7-M 1.2 GhzLinuxKR922UT Tony Godshall 2008-05-19T17:36:14 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.elitists/12470 All, As some of you may have seen on slashdot there is an announcement that all asus mobo's will in the near future contain built in splashtop Linux desktop. Being the curious monkey I am. I go to the site and start looking for packages and source. Just to see what it is I'm dealing with. Not only am I not finding a path to source, but I saw this page and the following paragraph contained within. http://www.splashtop.com/aboutus-corporate.php <snip> DeviceVM is releasing its first software product, Splashtop, in October of 2007. Splashtop is a proprietary technology developed by DeviceVM that provides users with a rapid-start alternative to the traditional operating system. </snip> Now before people start calling me alarmist. I'm not trying to raise a call to arms, and I do understand business. What I'm looking for is the proper method to follow to find the people able to assist DeviceVM in working with GPL'd software, and complying with it's license. Suggestions? James James Sparenberg 2008-05-15T02:55:05 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.elitists/12466 All, We've got a possible application for a tiny linux server. The form factor would be small, USB-key sized, and they'd need to have an ethernet port and draw their power from a PoE socket. (The specific application is plugging them into old ethernet switches, and the devices would emit LLDP packets, thus allowing us to topology-discover our network) Anyone know of such a thing? Phil Mayers 2008-05-14T16:03:56 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.elitists/12463 _______________________________________________ linux-elitists mailing list linux-elitists< at >zgp.org http://allium.zgp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-elitists Greg Folkert 2008-05-06T21:05:42 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.elitists/12459 Is anyone using a git repository with an appropriate hook script to deploy a server-side application? You could do something like "git push staging" or "git push live" on your own repository, and a hook on the server takes care of checking out and deploying the software, and running any necessary init scripts. Don Marti 2008-05-05T19:04:52 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.elitists/12452 FreedomHEC 2008, the Linux device driver "unconference", will take place November 8-9, 2008 in Santa Monica, California, following WinHEC in Los Angeles. Plan to attend and learn why Linux support has become an industry standard requirement for new hardware, and how you can get your products supported under Linux quickly and conveniently for customers. Who: Hardware engineers, driver developers, you. What: Device driver unconference Where: Santa Monica, California, USA When: November 8-9, 2008 Why: Make your hardware valuable to the growing Linux market. At FreedomHEC, participants will learn how the Linux driver development process works, differently from the complex processes used to develop drivers for proprietary operating systems. The kernel team and the Linux distributions take on much of the build, test, and support work for a driver, freeing up the hardware manufacturer's driver team to concentrate on the core code. You'll also have an opportunity to discuss your driver develo Don Marti 2008-04-28T23:37:51 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.elitists/12447 In response to many of the questions regarding the changes in the OLPC project, and specifically the decision to base the project at this juncture to a Microsoft Operating System, proponents of this change have come out swinging against Free Software developers who have worked for the current Free Interface, code named Sugar. A large segment of the critique of the against Free Software developers like Bender is that they have put their "Open Source" agenda above the welfare of the project. Others claim that the "Open Source" advocates should be pleased with the what has already been done and that the project as it stands can either be relaunched or has already met goals. The problem, though, is that in many ways, the marketing and financial positioning of the OLPC program is harder to develop then the hardware and software. And the goals that have been met are small in light of the original mission of the OLPC project. An operating system is more than a commodity. It becomes the looking glass that devel Ruben Safir 2008-04-26T18:15:22 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.elitists/12444 Hi all, I started an open source project to enhance privacy. A lot is going on in Europa (actually the US too) that needs some attention. The whole story is below in the original posting. I would like to encourage everybody who feels like lurking or joining to mail me: brenno< at >dewinter.com and I'll put you on the list. Of course I won't start spamming this list now. This is a one off post and people that know me, know also that this is an urgent matter. Cheers, Brenno de winter Dear all, As promised I would kick-off a mailinglist on privacy in order to build an open source project. I tried it off-list for some time, but it is hard to get things going in a direction. So I start over without any prejudice to technologies or solutions. Let the wisdom of the crowd take care of the project. You're on the list, because we discussed this and you wanted to lurk or participate. The list of members is not public, so if you lurk you are not giving away your identity. *Anecdote* Today I flew back home from Brenno J.S.A.A.F. de Winter, wgasa 2008-04-14T09:06:33 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.elitists/12441 Greetings, As Ilan and I attempt to document all of the various ways that the US government has tweaked (butchered?) IP laws, I was wondering if anyone can help pull together the pieces of legislation that I should look at. So far, I have these: Federal government - DMCA 1998 Voter Confidence and Increased Accessibility Act of 2007 (HR811) FAIR USE Act of 2007 ( H.R. 1201) PERFORM Act (S. 256) Open Government Act 2007 (S. 849 / H.R. 1309) Organization for Intellectual Property (PRO IP) Act of 2007 H.R.1908 - Patent Reform Act of 2007 The Inducing Infringement of Copyrights Act of 2004 (S.2560) Digital Media Consumers' Rights Act of 2003 (HR 107) Digital Media Consumer's Rights Act of 2005 (H.R.1201) H.R. 3155: Intellectual Property Enhanced Criminal Enforcement Act of 2007 H. Res. 231, H.Res. 169, and (H.R. 170 the Sunlight Act of 2007) And on a California state level: California Induce Act SB 96 (2005) California AB1668 - ODF / Open Standards in Government If you can think of any more, whethe John Mark Walker 2008-04-09T08:48:51 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.elitists/12438 Greetings, We at BytesFree.org are putting out a call for participation and wanted to share with LUG's and other Free Software-friendly groups what we are up to and why we need your help. We are currently in the process of, but have not yet completed, incorporating as a non-profit in California. If you're going to Lug Radio Live this weekend, we hope to see you in our booth: http://lugradio.org/live/USA2008/ Our Mission BytesFree.org is a group of concerned citizens dedicated to the protection of information rights - the right to access information we own. Some of us you may already know - myself, Ilan Rabinovitch from SCALE, Deb Bryant from GOSCON, Josh Berkus from PostgreSQL, Sun and SPI, Josh Drake from PostgreSQL and SPI, and David Fetter, also from PostgreSQL, as well as a few others. As far as what we do, here's our mission statement: BytesFree.org is dedicated to the idea that all people should have full and unrestricted access to all information to which they are legally or morally ent John Mark Walker 2008-04-08T06:21:16 Search the mailing list at Gmane query http://search.gmane.org/?group=$group=gmane.linux.elitists