http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.linux.arch.general hourly 1 1901-01-01T00:00+00:00 http://gmane.org/img/gmane-25t.png http://gmane.org http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.arch.general/48368 <pre>Hallo, IMO the moderated Arch general list became a good list for technically issues and for briefly and succinctly objective discussions. This shouldn't change. First I didn't like it, but now I can see the advantages of such a list. What IMO is missing for Arch Linux is a separated mailing list for longer, subjective discussions. I'm aware that this is possible using the forums, but for my taste a mailing list is more comfortable to use. I wonder if there's an interest for such a mailing list and if somebody has got the knowledge and is willing to set up such a mailing list. The international Debian mailing list is free for longer, subjective discussions, but there anyway is a separated list, for completely off topic discussions. http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic There's no need to have a list for absolutely OT discussions for Arch Linux, as there is for Debian, but perhaps I'm not the only one who does like to get an Arch Linux mailing list for longer, subjective d</pre> Ralf Mardorf 2013-05-18T16:27:03 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.arch.general/48365 <pre>Think something is broken in gvfs-afc, ifuse and friends while working with idevices. Nautilus shows me the devices in the right panel (the favorites one), both documentiation and the device itself and always show this error when trying to mont. &lt;code&gt;Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)&lt;/code&gt; I think I've done my homework on bbs, #archlinux and googling, and found the only way peopple resolved this problem was with ppas in *buntus so i want to look deeper... Also i got this from dmesg output when trying to mount manually with ifuse: &lt;code&gt; [ 105.595108] ifuse[500]: segfault at 2dd0 ip 00007ff49b7efc05 sp 00007ff4998e5cd8 error 4 in libimobiledevice.so.4.0.1[7ff49b7e3000+1a000] &lt;/code&gt; But the interesting part is that &lt;b&gt; Shotwell can import photos from the device &lt;/b&gt;. Surprisingly Rhytmbox cannot play music from it. In an iPad2 ( i'm going to suggest to Apple to change its name to &lt;b&gt; iCrap &lt;/b&gt;) neither Shotwell or Rhythmbox can get photos/music from the device. I'm r</pre> Joaquin Villanova 2013-05-17T15:52:08 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.arch.general/48360 <pre>It seems it's a rather common problem that GTK3 themes partly break Gnome3.8 by preventing having a nice desktop background while letting the file manager draw the background: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=162204 https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=161918 I've so far found only two (2!) GTK3 themes that work in this respect, the default theme Adwaita that ships with Gnome3.8 and Nokto3.8 (http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=158033). I'm not particularly pleased with the aesthetics of either of them though. What's causing this behaviour in themes? (Hopefully it's easy to fix the broken themes I come across.) What other themes have you found that work properly? /M -- Magnus Therning OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4 email: magnus&lt; at &gt;therning.org jabber: magnus&lt; at &gt;therning.org twitter: magthe http://therning.org/magnus </pre> Magnus Therning 2013-05-16T07:15:16 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.arch.general/48359 <pre>Hi all, After the last kernel upgrade, my sound is not working after weaking up from hibernate. The device "PulseAudio" is shown in alsamixer, PulseAudio is up and running, the channels are shown in pavucontrol and even the level sound bar is showing the audio levels, but there is no sound. Everything works after shutting down - starting up again my system (not even using restart). I am using systemd to hibernate / restart my laptop. Thanks in advance, </pre> Carlos Alegria Galicia 2013-05-17T11:04:01 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.arch.general/48356 <pre>After upgrading to 3.9.2 kernel, the sound did not work. However, the system CAN recognize my sound card, and my sound card appeared in `alsamixer` Downgrading the kernel can solve the problem. Providing more info: Acer Aspire laptop, with Intel i5 CPU, 2nd generation SandyBridge. `uname -a`: `lspci | grep Audio`: `dmesg`: `cat .pulse/daemon.pa`: `cat /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf`: (This file aims to fix another bug. Trying to remove this file could not fix this problem. I paste this file only because it is related to sound.) `lsmod`: &gt; Pasted here: http://p.vim-cn.com/cbbcx </pre> BlissSam 2013-05-15T16:12:12 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.arch.general/48353 <pre>There seems to have been a problem with pacman update today: :: Starting full system upgrade... resolving dependencies... looking for inter-conflicts... error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies) :: cyrus-sasl: requires libsasl=2.1.23 :: cyrus-sasl-gssapi: requires libsasl=2.1.23 Yet the current version is the above referred version but libsasl won't update on its own! [root&lt; at &gt;home1 ~]# pacman -Ss libsasl core/libsasl 2.1.26-2 [installed: 2.1.23-10] Cyrus Simple Authentication Service Layer (SASL) Library [root&lt; at &gt;home1 ~]# pacman -S libsasl resolving dependencies... looking for inter-conflicts... error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies) :: cyrus-sasl: requires libsasl=2.1.23 :: cyrus-sasl-gssapi: requires libsasl=2.1.23 I am confused! </pre> Mike Cloaked 2013-05-15T09:28:25 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.arch.general/48344 <pre>Hi, I've built Firefox 21 using Firefox 20 PKGBUILD, changing versions and reading the README notes on the source tarball, just for try. Should i expect any issue when installing? Is this a good method for a general purpose upgrading / downgrading? I mean, I can wait for this package because is in the extra repo, and is widely use and i know is going to be updated ASAP, but it should be good to know for other packages from AUR, or the main repos that doesn't get updated or get unmaintained. PD: I always flag packages that i found out of date! :) </pre> Joaquin Villanova 2013-05-14T11:34:41 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.arch.general/48330 <pre>Hello! An advice for VMware Workstation users: upgrading to gtkmm 2.24.3-1 on x86_64 makes VMware Workstation 8.0.6 crash on start or after a few seconds. I don't know about other versions. It happens with kernel 3.8.11 and 3.9.2. Downgrading to gtkmm 2.24.2-2 solves it (after an hour of trial and error). I'll create a bug report tomorrow. Too late for me now. Best Regards, Guillermo Leira </pre> Guillermo Leira 2013-05-13T21:49:03 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.arch.general/48328 <pre>I have just been hit by something: lano1106&lt; at &gt;hpmini ~/dev/gcc-test $ g++ --version g++ (GCC) 4.8.0 20130502 (prerelease) Copyright (C) 2013 Free Software Foundation, Inc. This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. lano1106&lt; at &gt;hpmini ~/dev/gcc-test $ g++ -O2 -o test1 test1.cpp test1_init.cpp lano1106&lt; at &gt;hpmini ~/dev/gcc-test $ ./test1 item 0 a: 1 lano1106&lt; at &gt;hpmini ~/dev/gcc-test $ g++ -O1 -o test1 test1.cpp test1_init.cpp lano1106&lt; at &gt;hpmini ~/dev/gcc-test $ ./test1 item 0 a: 1 lano1106&lt; at &gt;hpmini ~/dev/gcc-test $ g++ -O0 -o test1 test1.cpp test1_init.cpp lano1106&lt; at &gt;hpmini ~/dev/gcc-test $ ./test1 item 0 a: 1 item 1 a: 2 lano1106&lt; at &gt;hpmini ~/dev/gcc-test $ cat test1.h struct A { int a; int b; int c; }; struct B { int numelem; /* * Old C trick to define a dynamically sizable array just by allocating * sizeof(B) + (numelem-1)*sizeof(A) memory. */ </pre> LANGLOIS Olivier PIS -EXT 2013-05-13T18:20:05 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.arch.general/48316 <pre>Preliminary question and regarding to this question multiposted: Does anybody still use a RME HDSPe AIO ;)? Hi, since the issues I get for my RME HDSPe AIO didn't became less, but more within the last two years, I cleaned a primary partition to install XP, just to test, if there are issues caused by the mobo, that will appear, even when not using a *nix driver, but the proprietary driver and latest RME firmware. I'm a Linux only user, so sometime ago I installed FreeBSD, just to test, if the RME card isn't borked, since on Linux only 2 ADAT channels do work, fortunately all 8 ADAT channels work, using the FreeBSD driver (no TotalMix). I bought the card, because it was recommended by members of the Linux audio community. Don't get me wrong, the blame is on me, I decided to buy the card and had no time to use it within the first weeks, I only want to point out, that I did research before I bought the card. I wonder, if there are different revisions of the RME board? I know I've written this several times,</pre> Ralf Mardorf 2013-05-13T08:55:58 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.arch.general/48308 <pre>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, I was alarmed, I think unnecessarily, when I saw the message that a symlink for systemd was removed on an upgrade. As near as I can tell, the boot sequence still relies on init, which links to the right place. Is there a better way to keep track of changes like this so I'm not surprised? Thanks! - -- David Benfell / benfell&lt; at &gt;parts-unknown.org Please see https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 for GnuPG information (or the attachment you don't understand) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJRkHrTAAoJELJhbl/uPb4S6tcQAK/0+I/V2hLh94JZJG6XOgL7 FCgFxTz0SIm54xkiL+SeqI+6Zsf13eBneyf9udYqh9s08bSdHq+e9IgvrLkMVd3W vEu2uGN7tpB2zAvJVOxlplbTkDJzIh2C65KVlA8/4xhiGkhITtr/bdTflSxTG1Of dp3I+MDa1oE4HOQSXTtbnnFF6n1cnq94cGgGt7lFhds4yHaFNVkne1mGnoZ23mhp DJBKpIN+VM/rmFGnWjDHfW/LOE3Ic+UX5ClhcrnW1fT7U0GJuM2rrckYRl3HQ7/2 tRon9UDO7cmYNQG+E4TNH6fXAe3qT2/RLJkukIH4YikG5b51OPyh/MdV</pre> David Benfell 2013-05-13T05:32:03 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.arch.general/48306 <pre>The blank screen I first reported in January with Linux-3.7.3-1-i686 seems to have been cured by the latest update to Linux-3.9.2-1-i686 (and/or other updates that have happened at the same time). (Using the nouveau graphics driver). But the desktop and mouse settings in XFCe4 aren't all working. </pre> Whiskers 2013-05-12T22:53:17 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.arch.general/48302 <pre>Hey all, I'm pretty sure this is a fairly basic question, but i am a bit confused on systemd targets. It has been a while since i converted my systems to systemd and most of it seems to be working ok. Now i am looking for a way to automatically save my VM's to disk in case i forget to shutdown/save one before shutting down the host. After some searching, i stumbled upon this in man systemd-halt.service: " Immediately before executing the actual system halt/poweroff/reboot/kexec systemd-shutdown will run all executables in /usr/lib/systemd/system-shutdown/ and pass one arguments to them: either "halt", "poweroff", "reboot" or "kexec", depending on the chosen action. All executables in this directory are executed in parallel, and execution of the action is not continued before all executables finished. " So at least one way would be place a script that calls "/etc/rc.d/libvirtd-guests stop" (or equivalent, it's not hard to replace) in /etc/systemd/system-shutdown/ </pre> Guus Snijders 2013-05-08T21:52:47 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.arch.general/48301 <pre>Hello, While upgrading kdelibs-4.10.2-4 x86_64, I am getting errors such as these.. kdelibs: /etc/dbus-1/system.d/org.kde.auth.conf exists in filesystem kdelibs: /etc/xdg/menus/kde-applications.menu exists in filesystem kdelibs: /usr/bin/checkXML exists in filesystem kdelibs: /usr/bin/kbuildsycoca4 exists in filesystem kdelibs: /usr/bin/kconfig_compiler exists in filesystem kdelibs: /usr/bin/kcookiejar4 exists in filesystem kdelibs: /usr/bin/kde4-config exists in filesystem kdelibs: /usr/bin/kded4 exists in filesystem There are total 3503 such errors, all for kdelibs only. As of now pacman reports that none of them are owned by any packages but thats a suspicious claim since it includes files like /usr/bin/kbuildsycoca4 and /usr/bin/kcookiejar4. Initially I thought it was a package sync error and any updated packages will be pushed soon. But after 4 days the situation persists. Has anybody else seen this? Should I just use --force? TIA.. Reference - generate file # pacman -Syu --noconfirm &gt; pacma</pre> Shridhar Daithankar 2013-05-09T03:12:41 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.arch.general/48299 <pre>Hi everyone Per discussion in 'pacman-dev' maillist [1] I implemented a tool that tries to find Arch out-of-date packages. The tool scans PKGBUILD files is /var/abs directory, extracts download url and then tries to probe download urls for the next version. Next versions look like X.Y.Z+1 X.Y+1.0 X+1.0.0 If any of the new versions presents on the download server it reports to user as 'new version available'. Here is the tool sources https://github.com/anatol/pkgoutofdate To make its usage even more pleasant I added it to AUR https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/pkgoutofdate-git/ To use it please install pkgoutofdate-git package: $ yaourt -S pkgoutofdate-git Then update abs database and run tool itself: $ sudo abs &amp;&amp; pkgoutofdate That's it. The result looks like ....... closure-linter: new version found - 2.3.8 =&gt; 2.3.9 perl-data-dump: new version found - 1.21 =&gt; 1.22 wgetpaste: new version found - 2.20 =&gt; 2.21 fillets-ng-data: new version found - 1.0.0 =&gt; 1.0.1 tablelist: new version found - 5.5 =&gt; 5</pre> Anatol Pomozov 2013-05-11T18:26:19 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.arch.general/48298 <pre>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, This is on an Asus notebook, a 64-bit system. I have attached an external keyboard, mouse, and a monitor. Disconnecting the monitor seems to make no difference. I think I'm not looking at a problem with Xorg. Here's the log, from journalctl -f during a failure: May 08 22:41:04 n4rky sudo[1617]: benfell : TTY=pts/0 ; PWD=/home/benfell ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/usr/bin/systemctl start gdm May 08 22:41:04 n4rky sudo[1617]: pam_unix(sudo:session): session opened for user root by benfell(uid=0) May 08 22:41:04 n4rky systemd[1]: Starting GNOME Display Manager... May 08 22:41:04 n4rky systemd[1]: Started GNOME Display Manager. May 08 22:41:04 n4rky sudo[1617]: pam_unix(sudo:session): session closed for user root n4rky% May 08 22:41:04 n4rky dbus-daemon[409]: dbus[409]: [system] Rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.67" (uid=0 pid=1620 comm="/usr/sbin/gdm ") interface="org.freedesktop.DBus.P...lay-id /org/gn") May 08 22:41:04 n4r</pre> David Benfell 2013-05-09T05:50:16 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.arch.general/48290 <pre>Hi &lt; at &gt;all I tried to boot archlinux 2013.04.01 from CD. On my laptop all seems ok, but on a thin client an error occurs: "Failed to mount real root device" This is the output: :: Device ,/dev/disk/by-label/ARCH_201304' mounted successfully :: Mounting /run/archiso/cowspace (tmpfs) filesystem, size=75%... :: running late hook [archiso_pxe_common] :: running cleanup hook [archiso_shutdown] :: running cleanup hook [udev] ERROR: Failed to mount real root device Bailing out, . What happens? Remember, please, it is the original ISO, not an installed system! Other systems boot without errors from this CD. Some hardware information: CPU AMD GeodeT LX 800 GPU Integrated in the CPU RAM 512MB Thank you for any tips Mathias </pre> Bytecounter 2013-05-07T14:27:15 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.arch.general/48283 <pre>Hi, With gcc 4.8.0-4 I can no longer build core/links package from ABS, with SSL support. The issue is _not_related to makepkg (as I originally thought), even plain ./configure fails if I export CPPFLAGS=-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2, regardless of the content of {C,CXX,LD}FLAGS. Here is the error: -------------------- $ ./configure --with-ssl [ ... ] checking for openssl... yes checking OPENSSL_CFLAGS... checking OPENSSL_LIBS... -lssl -lcrypto checking for OpenSSL... no checking for OpenSSL... no configure: error: OpenSSL not found $ cat config.log [ ... ] configure:8095: checking for openssl configure:8102: checking OPENSSL_CFLAGS configure:8107: checking OPENSSL_LIBS configure:8139: checking for OpenSSL configure:8150: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 conftest.c -lssl -lcrypto -lm 1&gt;&amp;5 In file included from configure:8143:0: confdefs.h:8:16: error: duplicate 'unsigned' #define size_t unsigned ^ configure: failed program was: #line 8143 "configure" #include "confdefs.h" #include &lt;o</pre> Leonid Isaev 2013-05-06T19:45:31 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.arch.general/48280 <pre>Hello, I know some people had this problem before but no solution seems to help me. I was playing Kerbal Space Program, the game filled up my RAM, my computer was no longer responding (it happens to me a few times a month if I forgot to close firefox before playing for example). I had to hard shutdown, then on the boot I get this kernel panic. (Here is a screenshot: http://dettorer.net/kernel_panic.jpg) The init= parameter given by grub is correct: /usr/lib/systemd/systemd and I double checked the root= parameter, it is by uuid but I also tried by device name (/dev/sda7) and by label. I use three partitions: sda5: /boot (sda6: swap) sda7: / sda8: /home `fdisk -l /dev/sda` http://paste.awesom.eu/ux8 `ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid` http://paste.awesom.eu/85U Using the output of a new `grub-mkconfig` didn't fix it either. Here is my grub.cfg: http://paste.awesom.eu/aDR I tried running `mkinitcpio -v -p linux` (I use the 3.8 kernel from core but also tried the 3.9 from testing, same result) Here is my mkinitcpio.c</pre> Paul Hervot 2013-05-06T13:41:20 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.arch.general/48277 <pre> I have successfully installed the package wireless-bcm43142-dkms package from AUR. My network controller is Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY [14e4:4315] (rev 01) and my wireless interface name is wlp3s0. I use wifi-menu to choose my WEP wireless network (named mywifi), i enter my password and then i get: Job for netctl&lt; at &gt;wlp3s0\x2dmywifi.service failed. See 'systemctl status netctl&lt; at &gt;wlp3s0\x2dmywifi.service' and 'journalctl -xn' for details. So, i use the above mentioned commands to find out what's happening: # systemctl status netctl&lt; at &gt;wlp3s0\x2dmywifi.service netctl&lt; at &gt;wlp3s0x2dmywifi.service - Networking for netctl profile wlp3s0x2dmywifi Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/netctl&lt; at &gt;.service; static) Active: inactive (dead) Docs: man:netctl.profile(5) # journal -nx </pre> Arch Zealot 2013-05-05T19:48:29 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.arch.general/48266 <pre>Does anyone have this working with the latest grub+linux-lts? I've been trying to follow the steps on [1] but have had no success. I've been using grub-common instead of grub. [1] https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=8376 -- - Patrick Donnelly </pre> Patrick Donnelly 2013-05-03T22:03:57 Search the mailing list at Gmane query http://search.gmane.org/?group=$group=gmane.linux.arch.general