http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.mboned hourly 1 1901-01-01T00:00+00:00 http://gmane.org/img/gmane-25t.png http://gmane.org http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.mboned/4093 <pre> If you would like to present anything at MBONED in Berlin, please let Greg and me know what you'd like to cover and how much time you'd like. Thanks, MBoned Chairs _______________________________________________ MBONED mailing list MBONED&lt; at &gt;ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mboned </pre> Leonard Giuliano 2013-05-15T18:48:59 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.mboned/4089 <pre>Hey there, I am not sure if I am right here but some IANA support person said people here could help me find out who operates a specific multicast network. Is this correct?_______________________________________________ MBONED mailing list MBONED&lt; at &gt;ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mboned </pre> Jan Ollmann 2013-05-08T12:34:25 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.mboned/4088 <pre>Biggest Fake Conference in Computer Science We are researchers from different parts of the world and conducted a study on the world’s biggest bogus computer science conference WORLDCOMP ( http://sites.google.com/site/worlddump1 ) organized by Prof. Hamid Arabnia from University of Georgia, USA. We submitted a fake paper to WORLDCOMP 2011 and again (the same paper with a modified title) to WORLDCOMP 2012. This paper had numerous fundamental mistakes. Sample statements from that paper include: (1). Binary logic is fuzzy logic and vice versa (2). Pascal developed fuzzy logic (3). Object oriented languages do not exhibit any polymorphism or inheritance (4). TCP and IP are synonyms and are part of OSI model (5). Distributed systems deal with only one computer (6). Laptop is an example for a super computer (7). Operating system is an example for computer hardware Also, our paper did not express any conceptual meaning. However, it was accepted both the times without any modifications (and without</pre> johnsonhammond1< at >hushmail.com 2013-04-27T17:41:26 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.mboned/4079 <pre> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the MBONE Deployment Working Group of the IETF. Title : IPv6 Multicast Address With Embedded IPv4 Multicast Address Author(s) : Mohamed Boucadair Jacni Qin Yiu L. Lee Stig Venaas Xing Li Mingwei Xu Filename : draft-ietf-mboned-64-multicast-address-format-05.txt Pages : 12 Date : 2013-04-18 Abstract: This document reserves one bit (M-bit) of the unicast prefix-based multicast IPv6 address for ASM and an IPv6 multicast prefix for SSM mode to be used in the context of IPv4-IPv6 interconnection. The document specifies an algorithmic translation of an IPv6 multicast address to a corresponding IPv4 multicast address, and vice versa. This algorithmic translation can be used in both IPv4-IPv6 translation or</pre> internet-drafts< at >ietf.org 2013-04-18T07:03:00 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.mboned/4061 <pre>Hi All, I've attached the draft I had intended to submit prior to the last IETF meeting (missed cutoff by 20 mins - forgot about UTC). I have been asked to distribute this text for review by the ISEG discussion participants prior to submission as additional changes may be required. This version of the document corrects various typos, etc., and includes new text in which I attempted to address concerns raised by several reviewers. I have been told that there have been some off-line discussions (in Orlando) regarding some open issues in which some consensus has been reached regarding how these should be addressed in the document. I would appreciate feedback as to whether the new text is acceptable and suggestions as to what might be added or changed as a result of any off-line discussions. I've copied the mboned group so that they may see the latest changes - group members should reply to me and mboned&lt; at &gt;ietf.org if they have questions or comments. Thanks, -g.b. </pre> Greg Bumgardner 2013-04-01T19:13:47 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.mboned/4033 <pre> We would like to begin working group last call for draft-ietf-mboned-v4v6-mcast-ps. Please include the following in your consideration: -Is the document of a sufficient quality for publication? -Are all of the use cases and components in the draft reflective of real world problems that you think MBONED should attempt to address? Please post any and all comments supporting/opposing the draft to the list by Apr 19. Most recent version of the draft can be found here: http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-mboned-v4v6-mcast-ps-02.txt _______________________________________________ MBONED mailing list MBONED&lt; at &gt;ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mboned </pre> Leonard Giuliano 2013-03-21T13:45:58 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.mboned/4032 <pre>Hi, In yesterday's session, after Meng's draft-wang-mboned-glo-ipv6-mcast-reachability presentation, Thomas pointed out that there is another draft that addresses the same problem (and more) and it will be presented in the L3VPN session. That draft is my draft-zzhang-mboned-mvpn-global-table-mcast-00. If you're interested in the topic, please attend the L3VPN session (it is the second agenda item). Thanks. Jeffrey _______________________________________________ MBONED mailing list MBONED&lt; at &gt;ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mboned </pre> Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang 2013-03-13T22:51:03 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.mboned/4031 <pre> Here are the raw minutes from MBONED mtg yesterday (thanks Gorry for the excellent, detailed notes). Please take a look while this is all fresh in the mind and let us know if you see anything that should be added/modified. MBONED IETF 86 Orlando Tues, Mar 12, 2013 The status of the WG items was reviewed. There had been a recharter proposal, to be reviewed by the AD. * AMT was submitted to the IESG, there were issued to be addressed. * Multrans Problem Statement Ron Bonica: I'm not sure who wants the PS. Joel: I do not know which items the WG should work on. If there are implementers, it would be good to know what they are working on. I would be fairly uncomfortable taking proposed work to the IESG with section 5 the way it currently is, and we do not have commitments to work on this. Chair: There are people who want to work on this. Joel: Running code and running away would be really helpful to know about. An INFO document from an implementor that says they need the work would be valuable. I don't</pre> Leonard Giuliano 2013-03-13T16:19:53 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.mboned/4029 <pre>Dear all, In light of the discussions that were held during the Orlando mboned WG session, we've submitted an updated version of the problem statement draft that basically removes Section 5 and corrects a few pending typos. We, authors, believe the draft is ready for WGLC. Comments welcome. Cheers, Christian. -----Message d'origine----- De : mboned-bounces&lt; at &gt;ietf.org [mailto:mboned-bounces&lt; at &gt;ietf.org] De la part de internet-drafts&lt; at &gt;ietf.org Envoyé : mercredi 13 mars 2013 10:49 À : i-d-announce&lt; at &gt;ietf.org Cc : mboned&lt; at &gt;ietf.org Objet : [MBONED] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mboned-v4v6-mcast-ps-02.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the MBONE Deployment Working Group of the IETF. Title : IPv4-IPv6 Multicast: Problem Statement and Use Cases Author(s) : Christian Jacquenet Mohamed Boucadair Yiu Lee Jacni Qin Tina Tsou </pre> christian.jacquenet< at >orange.com 2013-03-13T09:52:20 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.mboned/4028 <pre> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the MBONE Deployment Working Group of the IETF. Title : IPv4-IPv6 Multicast: Problem Statement and Use Cases Author(s) : Christian Jacquenet Mohamed Boucadair Yiu Lee Jacni Qin Tina Tsou Qiong Sun Filename : draft-ietf-mboned-v4v6-mcast-ps-02.txt Pages : 19 Date : 2013-03-13 Abstract: This document discusses issues and requirements raised by IPv4-IPv6 multicast interconnection and co-existence scenarios. It also discusses various multicast use cases which may occur during IPv6 transitioning. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mboned-v4v6-mcast-ps There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mboned-v4v6-mcast</pre> internet-drafts< at >ietf.org 2013-03-13T09:49:19 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.mboned/4026 <pre> If you are presenting in MBONED, please send your slides to the chairs by Fri, Mar 8 so we have enough time to get them posted for remote viewers. Below is the agenda. Please let us know if we missed anything: IETF 86 Orlando MBONED Agenda Tues, Mar 12, 201 3:20-4:50PM Boca 2 Status of WG items, recharter, multrans Chairs, 20 min draft-ietf-mboned-shepherd-multicast-udp-guidelines Shepherd, 10 min draft-tarapore-mboned-muticast-cdni Tarapore, 10 min draft-boucadair-6man-multicast-addr-arch-update Venaas, 15 min draft-zhou-mboned-multrans-path-optimization Zhou, 10 min draft-wang-mboned-glo-ipv6-mcast-reachability Meng, 10 min _______________________________________________ MBONED mailing list MBONED&lt; at &gt;ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mboned </pre> Leonard Giuliano 2013-03-07T16:45:03 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.mboned/4025 <pre> Here's what we have so far. Please let us know if we are missing anything or if anyone else wants to be on the agenda. IETF 86 Orlando MBONED Agenda Tues, Mar 12, 201 3:20-4:50PM Boca 2 Status of WG items, recharter, multransChairs15 draft-ietf-mboned-shepherd-multicast-udp-guidelinesShepherd10 draft-tarapore-mboned-muticast-cdniTarapore10 draft-ietf-mboned-v4v6-mcast-psBoucadair10 draft-boucadair-6man-multicast-addr-arch-updateBoucadair15 draft-zhou-mboned-multrans-path-optimizationZhou15 draft-wang-mboned-glo-ipv6-mcast-reachabilityMeng10 _______________________________________________ MBONED mailing list MBONED&lt; at &gt;ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mboned </pre> Leonard Giuliano 2013-02-25T17:02:20 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.mboned/4020 <pre> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the MBONE Deployment Working Group of the IETF. Title : Multicast in the Data Center Overview Author(s) : Mike McBride Filename : draft-ietf-mboned-dc-deploy-00.txt Pages : 11 Date : 2013-02-18 Abstract: There has been much interest in issues surrounding massive amounts of hosts in the data center. These issues include the prevalent use of IP Multicast within the Data Center. Its important to understand how IP Multicast is being deployed in the Data Center to be able to understand the surrounding issues with doing so. This document provides a quick survey of uses of multicast in the data center and should serve as an aid to further discussion of issues related to large amounts of multicast in the data center. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mboned-dc-deploy </pre> internet-drafts< at >ietf.org 2013-02-19T16:08:02 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.mboned/4018 <pre>as future AD and former multrans BOF co-chair I'm a little interested to see where this work has ended up and where we think it's going. Some thoughts. http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mboned-multrans-addr-acquisition-01 has been revved since the last meeting, I don't think I've seen any discussion on it at all. The dicussion of program guides and generically source discovery has been a persistent issue in the multicast problem space since orgination of work on it. I have come to view much if not all of it as misguided. the draft recognizes this to a certain extent in that section 3.3 is basically "do it out of band" e.g. it's the responsbility of the application/operator to make sure the right numbers are used in in the right places. that seems consistent with the traditional deployment of such applications. http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mboned-v4v6-mcast-ps-01 Regarding this document it was revved prior to the previous meeting iirc. to my mind sections 2 / 3 / 4 have a very di</pre> joel jaeggli 2013-02-15T23:52:16 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.mboned/4008 <pre> We'd like to see if there is consensus from the WG to adopt draft-mcbride-armd-mcast-overview as an MBoned document. In Atlanta, this draft was presented and 5 were in favor, none opposed adopting. Please speak up if you support or oppose adopting this draft as a WG document. The latest version can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-mcbride-armd-mcast-overview/ _______________________________________________ MBONED mailing list MBONED&lt; at &gt;ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mboned </pre> Leonard Giuliano 2013-01-16T20:36:27 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.mboned/3997 <pre> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the MBONE Deployment Working Group of the IETF. Title : Address Acquisition For Multicast Content When Source and Receiver Support Differing IP Versions Author(s) : Tina Tsou Axel Clauberg Mohamed Boucadair Stig Venaas Qiong Sun Filename : draft-ietf-mboned-multrans-addr-acquisition-01.txt Pages : 10 Date : 2013-01-03 Abstract: Each IPTV operator has their own arrangements for pre-provisioning program information including addresses of the multicast groups corresponding to broadcast programs on the subscriber receiver. During the transition from IPv4 to IPv6, scenarios can occur where the IP version supported by the receiver differs from that supported by the source. This memo examines what has to be done to allow the receive</pre> internet-drafts< at >ietf.org 2013-01-03T17:31:08 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.mboned/3996 <pre>Hi, Sorry for being late with this IETF last call comments. I will partly blame the ADs requesting this Transport Directorate review a bit late, the other part is all mine and the holidays. Anyway, I do hope you will consider these issues and comments as I believe I found some serious ones in addition to a number of clarifications that should be made. Significant Issues: 1. Congestion Control This is clearly a tunnel establishment protocol of something that is IP traffic. Thus normally the responsibility for congestion control is with the tunnelled traffic. However, I would like argue that this does not apply in this case due to the nature of the tunnelled traffic, i.e. multicast traffic and secondary due to limitations in the tunnel protocol. Lets start with the second part. This protocol claims to support ASM still don't provide a upstream delivery mechanism, i.e. an ASM receiver is not capable of sending as it should. This prevents several existing mechanism for congestion control that exist in proto</pre> Magnus Westerlund 2012-12-26T13:01:35 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.mboned/3995 <pre> The IESG has received a request from the MBONE Deployment WG (mboned) to consider the following document: - 'Automatic Multicast Tunneling' &lt;draft-ietf-mboned-auto-multicast-14.txt&gt; as Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the ietf&lt; at &gt;ietf.org mailing lists by 2012-12-19. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg&lt; at &gt;ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. Abstract This document describes Automatic Multicast Tunneling (AMT), a protocol for delivering multicast traffic from sources in a multicast-enabled network to receivers that lack multicast connectivity to the source network. The protocol uses UDP encapsulation and unicast replication to provide this functionality. The AMT protocol is specifically designed to support rapid deployment by requiring minimal changes to existing network infrastructure.</pre> The IESG 2012-12-05T17:44:48 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.mboned/3994 <pre> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the MBONE Deployment Working Group of the IETF. Title : IPv4-IPv6 Multicast: Problem Statement and Use Cases Author(s) : Christian Jacquenet Mohamed Boucadair Yiu Lee Jacni Qin Tina Tsou Qiong Sun Filename : draft-ietf-mboned-v4v6-mcast-ps-01.txt Pages : 22 Date : 2012-11-08 Abstract: This document discusses issues and requirements raised by IPv4-IPv6 multicast interconnection and co-existence scenarios. It also discusses various multicast use cases which may occur during IPv6 transitioning. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mboned-v4v6-mcast-ps There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mboned-v4v6-mcas</pre> internet-drafts< at >ietf.org 2012-11-08T08:30:44 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.mboned/3993 <pre> Thanks to Dino for taking notes. Here are the minutes from today's meeting. Please take a look while things are fresh on your mind and speak up if you see anything that should be added or changed. **** IETF Atlanta MBONED WG - Monday November 5, 2012, scribe: dino&lt; at &gt;cisco.com Status of WG Docs ----------------- - AMT has taken a lot of time but mostly done - Multtrans work, 2 drafts adpoted: draft-ietf-multtrans-addr-acquistion-00 draft-ietf-mmboned-v4v6-mcast-ps-00 Overall, little to no actiivty for Multrans since Vancouver. - draft-ietf-mboned-mcaddrdoc-04 is now RFC 6676. - multicat-cdni, authors could not make WG due to Hurricane Sandy=20 Multtrans --------- Comment from Axel (from DT): - DT needs 4-to-6-to-4, which means a tunneling solutionc an be used = versus=20 a translation solution. Onjit (sp?) China Telecom: - Need IPv4 at customer to IPv6 at the service provider. Lenny: Should we keep translation services in WG charter. - Toerless, restrict to the solutions that unicast ha</pre> Leonard Giuliano 2012-11-05T16:32:56 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.mboned/3992 <pre> Here's what we have so far for the MBONED mtg on Mon. Please speak up if you have anything else to add to the agenda. Status of WG items, recharterChairs15 draft-tarapore-mboned-muticast-cdniSayko15 draft-ietf-mboned-mtrace-v2-09Asaeda/Lee20 draft-mcbride-armd-mcast-overviewMcBride10 _______________________________________________ MBONED mailing list MBONED&lt; at &gt;ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mboned </pre> Leonard Giuliano 2012-10-31T19:01:22 Search the mailing list at Gmane query http://search.gmane.org/?group=$group=gmane.ietf.mboned