http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.culture.religion.jewish.avodah hourly 1 1901-01-01T00:00+00:00 http://gmane.org/img/gmane-25t.png http://gmane.org http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.culture.religion.jewish.avodah/27836 <pre>From Areivim... There are so many quotes and requotes [on Areivim -micha] that I can't figure out who said what. My recollection (sources on request, but after Y"T) is that according to one man de'amar in the Gemara, Boaz collected the 10 zekenim to publicize the pesak of Moavi velo Moavis (The other IIRC was that it was for sheva berachos; more accurately birchas nisuin since it was alman ve'almana)) It was not in dispute but (this is not in the Gemara; I believe I saw it in one of the meforshim) not "lemaaseh" since Moav was always a bitter enemy and intermarriage was not a major problem. Ploni Almoni did not DISPUTE the pesak; he questioned it. He said "pen ashchi es nachalasi" meaning he was afraid that down the line his yichus would be questioned and he wasn't prepared to risk that (also meforshim I think) Finally, Doeg did question the pesak at the time that Dovid took on Golyas and was up for the position of son in law to Shaul as a result ("ben mi ze ha'elem") This is also a Gemara. I don't know if</pre> Gershon Dubin 2012-05-25T14:56:35 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.culture.religion.jewish.avodah/27832 <pre> From http://tinyurl.com/7qspgqm There are two Dinim in Shulchan Aruch about wearing a Yarmulka. First in OC 3:6 it says one should not walk four amos with a bare head. In 91:3 it says that one may not mention Hashem's name with a bare head. The Mogen Avrohom says that mentioning Hashem's name is an issur while walking four amos or even less is a Midas Chasidus. The Taz disagrees and says that walking four amos is an issur of "B'Chukoseihem Lo Seileichu". The Sdei Chemed says that based on this, you should not greet a bareheaded Jew with the greeting "Shalom" since he is likely to return this same greeting. Since Shalom is one of the names of Hashem's, it would cause him to be oveir on this Din. _______________________________________________ Avodah mailing list Avodah&lt; at &gt;lists.aishdas.org http://lists.aishdas.org/listinfo.cgi/avodah-aishdas.org </pre> Prof. Levine 2012-05-25T12:47:57 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.culture.religion.jewish.avodah/27831 <pre>I don't know when it's proper and I don't know where the line is. But I do know one way of spotting some (not all) exaggerations if the presentation is in English. If the speaker says "literally" (e.g., it's literally yahareg ve'al ya'avor) you know it's an exaggeration. Joseph Kaplan _______________________________________________ Avodah mailing list Avodah&lt; at &gt;lists.aishdas.org http://lists.aishdas.org/listinfo.cgi/avodah-aishdas.org </pre> Joseph Kaplan 2012-05-25T12:47:50 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.culture.religion.jewish.avodah/27828 <pre>The Yerushalmi states that the rabbis purposely did not give kedushat EY to Bet Shean so that the poor could eat there during shmitta (for terumot and maaserot a machloket Rashi and Rambam). In fact Rav Yehuda haNasi had to overrule others who didnt want to permit it. It is a machloket among modern poskim (eg CI and Rav Frank) how far Bet Shean exptends whether some 2000 amot beyond the ancient walls or includes the entire bet shean valley) In any case it is clear that Bet Shean was a nonJewish city during its existence and in the days of Ezra and Nechemia there probably were no Jews at all in the vicinity to worry about. Only in the days of the Maccabbes did there start a local Jewish population. from wikipedia The Hellenistic &lt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellenistic&gt; period saw the reoccupation of the site of Beit She’an under the new name Scythopolis, possibly named after the Scythian &lt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scythian&gt; mercenaries who settled there as veterans. Little is known about the Hellenis</pre> Eli Turkel 2012-05-25T08:14:29 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.culture.religion.jewish.avodah/27827 <pre>see the very bottom of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasmonean_dynasty for the size of EY from Yehada HaMaccabe through Hyrcanus II. Note how small it is in the early years </pre> Eli Turkel 2012-05-25T08:21:47 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.culture.religion.jewish.avodah/27821 <pre> I don't read Areivim, nor did I attend the Asifa, but the context of this statement doesn't really matter too much. But it is a good opening to a question which has long bothered me. Namely: Do Chazal or Poskim discuss when guzma is appropriate, and when it is not? Are they at all worried about people who will take their words too seriously? For example, if a recognized gadol attempts to dramatize how awful a certain act is, he might say that it is Yehareg v'Al Yaavor. My fear is that there may be some people who will take that as a psak halacha -- after all, he said it, right? -- and might actually allow themselves to die rather than do that terrible thing. Alternatively, the person might succumb to temptation, and then suffer much worse guilt pangs than are actually appropriate. I have always been something of a literalist, and when I hear people saying things which are clear exaggerations, they tend to lose credibility in my eyes. But as I have matured, I have come to understand that guzma CAN be a le</pre> kennethgmiller< at >juno.com 2012-05-24T19:41:30 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.culture.religion.jewish.avodah/27813 <pre>In Bamidbar, we get the count of all the tribes. The language for all 12 is identical: "tolodosam, l'mishpchosam, l'vays avosam b'mispar..." except for Shimon: " "tolodosam, l'mishpchosam, l'vays avosam PECUDAYV b'mispar..." (1:22) What's special about Shimon? The tribe of Shimon was the only tribe according to Rashi that did not receive a curse. Hence, Pecudav (ITS numbers) did not receive a curse. [That was what was special about Shimon]. _______________________________________________ Avodah mailing list Avodah&lt; at &gt;lists.aishdas.org http://lists.aishdas.org/listinfo.cgi/avodah-aishdas.org </pre> cantorwolberg< at >cox.net 2012-05-24T18:39:51 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.culture.religion.jewish.avodah/27812 <pre>I have never received a satisfactory answer to the following question: We are taught that the Ovos amongst others observed Torah. Obviously the sheva mitzvos b'nei Noach they observed but how did they know about the chukim and korbonos, as well as tzitzis, mezuzah, tefillin, etc. etc. etc.? _______________________________________________ Avodah mailing list Avodah&lt; at &gt;lists.aishdas.org http://lists.aishdas.org/listinfo.cgi/avodah-aishdas.org </pre> cantorwolberg< at >cox.net 2012-05-24T18:10:50 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.culture.religion.jewish.avodah/27810 <pre>http://www.baishavaad.com/sefira/5772/yissochor-zevulun-optimized.pdf interesting number 6 ---- need a high level learner ..... _______________________________________________ Avodah mailing list Avodah&lt; at &gt;lists.aishdas.org http://lists.aishdas.org/listinfo.cgi/avodah-aishdas.org </pre> Saul.Z.Newman< at >kp.org 2012-05-24T16:45:13 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.culture.religion.jewish.avodah/27809 <pre> From R' Chaim Jachter's "Halacha Files", from the weekly Kol Torah published by the Torah Academy of Bergen County &lt;http://www.koltorah.org/ravj/13-31%20Truth%20of%20Hashem%20and%20Torah.htm&gt;. Attached in full. (H/T R' Moshe Snow, who is RCJ's chavrusah, and was my son Zack's rebbe at JEC-RTMA (the HS named for REMT's father) for much of this past year.) Tir'u baTov! -Micha Strengthening Our Belief in Hashem and His Beautiful Torah by Rabbi Chaim Jachter Introduction It is worthwhile to occasionally explore the foundations of our beliefs and lives. Thus, I wish to share with readers of Kol Torah why I am completely convinced of the truth of Hashem and His Holy Torah. I wish to present five approaches that I have found exceedingly convincing. I wish to follow the Rambam's example from the introduction to his commentary to Pirkei Avot (called the Shemonah Perakim) and clarify that some of the ideas I will present come from outside our Tradition. The Rambam urges us in this context "to accept the Truth wh</pre> Micha Berger 2012-05-24T15:19:07 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.culture.religion.jewish.avodah/27801 <pre>What is the source of the minhag to read a shtar hatanaim on Shavous morning? _______________________________________________ Avodah mailing list Avodah&lt; at &gt;lists.aishdas.org http://lists.aishdas.org/listinfo.cgi/avodah-aishdas.org </pre> eli.neuberger< at >gmail.com 2012-05-23T16:34:09 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.culture.religion.jewish.avodah/27798 <pre>In Bamidbar, we get the count of all the tribes. The language for all 12 is identical: "tolodosam, l'mishpchosam, l'vays avosam b'mispar..." except for Shimon: " "tolodosam, l'mishpchosam, l'vays avosam PECUDAYV b'mispar..." (1:22) What's special about Shimon? _______________________________________________ Avodah mailing list Avodah&lt; at &gt;lists.aishdas.org http://lists.aishdas.org/listinfo.cgi/avodah-aishdas.org </pre> shalomyitz< at >comcast.net 2012-05-23T15:23:54 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.culture.religion.jewish.avodah/27795 <pre>How American Ashkenazim prononce kamatz. - Do they pronouce a kamatz the same way that I (Israeli) promounce Cholam? - If so, will they pronounce Kamatz Katan and Kamatz gadol the same way? Thanks galsaba_______________________________________________ Avodah mailing list Avodah&lt; at &gt;lists.aishdas.org http://lists.aishdas.org/listinfo.cgi/avodah-aishdas.org </pre> Galsaba< at >aol.com 2012-05-23T01:13:56 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.culture.religion.jewish.avodah/27793 <pre>a. par helem davar??? why would Hashem make a whole Eida {of the best} talmidei chachamim forget something??? b. was anyone "wrongly convicted as far as we know, because of a "forgotten law??? hb _______________________________________________ Avodah mailing list Avodah&lt; at &gt;lists.aishdas.org http://lists.aishdas.org/listinfo.cgi/avodah-aishdas.org </pre> Harvey Benton 2012-05-13T21:30:36 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.culture.religion.jewish.avodah/27789 <pre>http://download.yutorah.org/2012/1053/Shavuot_To-Go_-_5772_prenup.pdf the YU rabbonim sign onto idea of prenup.... _______________________________________________ Avodah mailing list Avodah&lt; at &gt;lists.aishdas.org http://lists.aishdas.org/listinfo.cgi/avodah-aishdas.org </pre> Saul.Z.Newman< at >kp.org 2012-05-22T16:36:23 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.culture.religion.jewish.avodah/27787 <pre>For summary of this polemic see: Bleich J.D. Bircas Hachammah 3rd ed 2009, pp144-149 where he basically states that the Chassidim say it, the Misnagdim don't. The Gra held that a bracha was pronounced with Hashem Elokainu always being said together WITHOUT a pause and this was the equivalent of L'shem Yichud ___________________________ Joel Schnur Senior VP Government Affairs/Public Relations Schnur Associates, Inc. 1350 Avenue of the Americas Suite 1200 New York, NY 10019 Tel. 212-489-0600 x204 Fax. 212-489-0203 &lt;mailto:joel&lt; at &gt;schnurassociates.com&gt; joel&lt; at &gt;schnurassociates.com &lt;http://www.schnurassociates.com/&gt; www.schnurassociates.com _______________________________________________ Avodah mailing list Avodah&lt; at &gt;lists.aishdas.org http://lists.aishdas.org/listinfo.cgi/avodah-aishdas.org </pre> Joel Schnur 2012-05-22T16:36:58 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.culture.religion.jewish.avodah/27785 <pre>My brother-in-law said the following at a simcha yesterday evening: Zephania 1:12 says "ahapes et Yerushalaim banerot", and the gematria of "nerot" is equal to the number of times in which Jerusalem is mentioned in the Bible. A cute vort if you like that kind of thing, and I am probably spoiling it by checking up, but it doesn't seem to fit the facts. The gematria of "nerot" is 656 Even Shoshan's concordance gives "Yerushalaim" 641 times and "Yerushlem" in the Aramaic sections 26 times for a total of 667. BDB gives 644 and 25 for a total of 669. "egrep -o ixeyli*[mn] | wc -l" in a text file that I downloaded years ago from the Hebrew U with all of Tanach in "hebrew oldcode" (does anybody else remember that?) also gives 669. Googling I found a couple of sites that say that Jerusalem is mentioned 656 times, with or without the gematria, but no more details. Does anybody have more info, especially some kvetch to make the gematria fit the total? _______________________________________________ Avodah maili</pre> Simon Montagu 2012-05-22T15:50:55 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.culture.religion.jewish.avodah/27780 <pre>oznas ben keniel (?) came up with halachat after Moshe rabeinu passed away.....my question is, what percentage of halachot were actually lost, that he had to recover (  eg, there were no toldos, rabannans (decrees) shitas or various sorts etc,  it seems that though he recovered many] in actual; number, how many in actual percentage at that time???   hb_______________________________________________ Avodah mailing list Avodah&lt; at &gt;lists.aishdas.org http://lists.aishdas.org/listinfo.cgi/avodah-aishdas.org </pre> Harvey Benton 2012-05-22T06:34:30 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.culture.religion.jewish.avodah/27777 <pre> 1. 1. Humbly, let me suggest that God's connection with us is the basic mechanism of Torah and Mitzvoth. Active "Chai" meaning going both ways and reacting is the key description of God. 2. The active and repeated even continuous intercession by Hashem is the basis of Tefila. It is the Connection with God as an ongoing "unit/gestalt/dyad" that is basic Judaism. hashem's intercession is the basis for the Relationship. 3. Locate the epicenter! Look in Jewish history, for the very basis and bedrock foundation words. Build the Tower of Judaism on the following Pasuk. Here is where the Connection is most expressed. Here is a transcendental expression of the powerful connection Am Yisrael has with Hashem: 4. UKVOD HASHEM MALEH ES HAMISHKAN. 5. God's Glory filled the Mishkan</pre> David Wacholder 2012-05-22T06:05:07 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.culture.religion.jewish.avodah/27772 <pre> Any idea why this would be eligible for maser money? (perhaps net profit over cost which is used to fund other programs? Net difference in cost from a private getaway in a similar location?) KT Joel Rich _______________________________________________ Avodah mailing list Avodah&lt; at &gt;lists.aishdas.org http://lists.aishdas.org/listinfo.cgi/avodah-aishdas.org </pre> Rich, Joel 2012-05-21T18:50:56 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.culture.religion.jewish.avodah/27769 <pre>RSRH's essay Sivan I at http://www.stevens.edu/golem/llevine/rsrh/sivan_1.pdf gives many interesting insights into the nature of what the Judaism and the Torah are. Given that Shavuous will soon be here, you many want to read it. _______________________________________________ Avodah mailing list Avodah&lt; at &gt;lists.aishdas.org http://lists.aishdas.org/listinfo.cgi/avodah-aishdas.org </pre> Prof. Levine 2012-05-20T15:55:14 Search the mailing list at Gmane query http://search.gmane.org/?group=$group=gmane.culture.religion.jewish.avodah