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    <link>http://gmane.org</link>
  </image>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.documentation/4883">
    <title>Please update documentation for Ubuntu 11.10installation</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.documentation/4883</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hello,

According to https://dev.plone.org/ticket/9326
http://plone.org/documentation/manual/installing-plone/installing-on-linux-unix-bsd/debian-libraries
should
be changed to


sudo apt-get install build-essential
sudo apt-get install libssl-dev
sudo apt-get install libxml2-devsudo apt-get install libxslt1-devsudo
apt-get install libbz2-dev

Also, the libreadline package has been renamed:


sudo apt-get install libjpeg62-dev
sudo apt-get install libreadline-gplv2-dev

Tested on Ubuntu 11.10 x64

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  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.documentation/4878">
    <title>Tutorial for editing files on (UNIX) servers</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.documentation/4878</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi all,

Our dear users need guidance how to edit files on a remote (UNIX) server
over SSH connections and such. buildout.cfg, to name one.

Does anyone have good links, so we don't need to document this ourselves?

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  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.documentation/4877">
    <title>Travis-CI job for collective.developermanual and too sloooow buildout</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.documentation/4877</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi,

I have created a Travis CI job to check collective.developermanual for
Sphinx errors:

http://travis-ci.org/#!/collective/collective.developermanual/builds/1174760

However Travis tells me something depressing:

Executing your install (bin/buildout) took longer than 900 seconds and was
terminated. Consider rewriting your stuff in AssemblyScript, we've heard it
handles Web Scale™

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    <dc:date>2012-04-25T19:14:54</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.documentation/4875">
    <title>uploading rtd to plone</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.documentation/4875</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi,

I released funnelweb 1.1 and added the example of converting the rtd  
manual to PHC.

https://github.com/collective/funnelweb#read-the-docs

I'll fork the plone.org buildout and add this as a nightly task.

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  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.documentation/4874">
    <title>cleaning up tutorials section</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.documentation/4874</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi,

As previously discussed I've created a branch to remove the tutorials  
section and redistribute the content to new or existing sections.

I haven't created a pull request yet as I have to go fix a bunch of  
broken links and also move some content that has recently been added  
to the tutorials section.

You can see the diffs here.

https://github.com/collective/collective.developermanual/compare/master...djay





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    <dc:date>2012-04-16T06:57:35</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.documentation/4860">
    <title>New installation instructions</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.documentation/4860</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi,

I try to modernize / centralize existing Plone installation instructions.

Please take a look on:

http://collective-docs.readthedocs.org/en/latest/tutorials/installation.html

...and then take a stab on the document or me.

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    <dc:date>2012-04-10T15:04:53</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.documentation/4859">
    <title>"One sentence per line"</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.documentation/4859</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi there

Putting this out there for your thoughts:

    By starting a new line at the end of each sentence, and splitting sentences
    themselves at natural breaks between clauses, a text file becomes far
    easier to edit and version control. Text editors are very good at
    manipulating lines — so when each sentence is a contiguous block of lines,
    your editor suddenly becomes a very powerful mechanism for quickly
    rearranging clauses and ideas.

    And your version-control system will love semantic linefeeds. Have you ever
    changed a few words at the beginning of a paragraph, only to discover that
    version control now thinks the whole text has changed?

    from: http://rhodesmill.org/brandon/2012/one-sentence-per-line/

Documentation tends to be a rather personal thing, with different people used
to their own styles and the preferences of the editors that they use.

However it's also something we maintain in common, and that we version using
line-oriented tools.

As such, it would be g&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Jean Jordaan</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-04-08T15:08:57</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.documentation/4853">
    <title>Some stats on plone documentation usage</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.documentation/4853</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Since we have a bit a conversation starting about Plone documentation,
I though it would be helpful and interesting to share some stats from
Plone.org's Google Analytics account about what people are looking for
and finding w/r/t Plone.org documentation.  (If anyone has interesting
stats on our various externally-hosted docs, e.g. RTD, I'd love to get
them or get access to them.)

First, some toplines:

Our docs section got about 500k visits in the past year originating
with a search (the vast majority of searches from Google, no surprise
there.)  We also had about 85k searches on plone.org, excluding
searches originating in the Products section.  So, while it is true
that most of people "search plone.org via Google" we are still seeing
a substantial fraction of search usage happening internally.  So I
think it is important that we continue to invest in making plone.org
searching as good as it can be.

I also think it is interesting to look at the most commonly used
search terms and landing pages.    I looke&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Jon Stahl</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-03-15T22:55:50</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.documentation/4852">
    <title>Broken Links in theme-reference</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.documentation/4852</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi!

Don't know, if this is the proper way, but this list is listed on the page.

When working through the guide I found some broken Links:
Page:
http://plone.org/documentation/manual/theme-reference/buildingblocks/skin/templates/overview

Link.text: ZPT Reference on Zope.org
Link.destination:
http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Books/ZopeBook/2_6Edition/AppendixC.stx
Link.newDestination?: http://docs.zope.org/zope2/zope2book/AppendixC.html

Link.text: There's a useful introduction to this in the Plone User
Link.destination:
http://plone.org/documentation/plone-2.5-user-manual/managing-content/folder-view/
Link.newDestination?:
http://plone.org/documentation/manual/plone-2.5-user-manual/managing-content/folder-view
Link.newDestination?:
http://plone.org/documentation/manual/plone-4-user-manual/managing-content/folder-view

A letter too much?
&amp;lt;: to format the a time field according to the default

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    <dc:creator>Gert</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-03-04T22:03:07</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.documentation/4851">
    <title>New doc on generic upgrade procedure</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.documentation/4851</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi all-

I've just thrown together a very short document on our generic upgrade
procedure for buildout-based installations.
Changes/corrections/improvements welcome, I'm hardly an expert at
this!

https://plone.org/documentation/manual/upgrade-guide/version/minor-version-upgrades

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  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.documentation/4844">
    <title>Taking down documentation/manual/developer-manual ?</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.documentation/4844</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi all,

After successful take down of api.plone.org I hope to continue my kill it
with fire spree.

http://plone.org/documentation/manual/developer-manual has not seen recent
updates.

It contains vast amount of deprecated information.

Does anyone actively maintain it? Last update is ~300 days ago.

My suggestion is that we move everything to Sphinx doc and take down the
section on plone.org. Some parts have been moved already.

Of course this would involve some politics as I believe official developer
manual is copyrighted by the foundation, but collective docs are by
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  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.documentation/4843">
    <title>Signups open for Cioppino Sprint</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.documentation/4843</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;You're invited to a Plone sprint to be held March 22nd - 26th in Bodega
Bay, California. Please visit the planning page at
http://www.coactivate.org/projects/cioppino/project-home if you're
interested. If you can make it, add your name to the list at the end of the
page.

As with the great 2011 sprint, the main focus of this sprint will be work
that makes immediate improvements in plone.org. This year, we're going to
particularly focus on the documentation section. There will be lots to do
for anyone that can write, design, code, edit or work a bug tracker. In
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    <dc:creator>Steve McMahon</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-01-26T17:30:50</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.documentation/4837">
    <title>collective-docs on plone.org</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.documentation/4837</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi,

I noticed mikko removed the conversion code from collective-docs that  
could upload it to plone.org.

I think using read-the-docs is great but I disagree that we shouldn't  
also have an up to date copy on plone.org.
The reason being that newbies might use plone.org search to find  
documentation or a google search of site:plone.org to try and find  
answers.

Other than the technical issue of how to keep the docs in sync inside  
plone, is there any reason not to have this manual duplicated on  
plone.org?

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    <title>Collective contribution docs</title>
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    <title>Shouldn't encourage delegating Manager role</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.documentation/4834</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;http://plone.org/documentation/kb/add-new-roles-to-the-sharing-page

This page demonstrates how to add a role to the sharing page using the
Manager role as example.  A client of mine just did that and was about
to deploy to production when I caught it.  It seems like a really bad
idea to make Manager something that can be delegated TTW.

Also, this page is out of date since you can use GS to add new roles and
add them to the sharing tab.  It seems like the page above should be
deprecated in favor of the one describing how to use GS which also
doesn't use Manager as an example role:

http://plone.org/documentation/manual/developer-manual/generic-setup/reference/sharing-ref

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    <title>Should not encourage delegating "Manager" role on"Adding new roles to the Sharing Page"</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.documentation/4833</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;http://plone.org/documentation/kb/add-new-roles-to-the-sharing-page

This page demonstrates how to add a role to the sharing page using the
Manager role as example.  A client of mine just did that and was about
to deploy to production when I caught it.  It seems like a really bad
idea to make Manager something that can be delegated TTW.

Also, this page is out of date since you can use GS to add new roles and
add them to the sharing tab.  It seems like the page above should be
deprecated in favor of the one describing how to use GS which also
doesn't use Manager as an example role:

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    <title>Taking down api.plone.org</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.documentation/4830</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi,

What it would require to take down api.plone.org? Currently the latest "api"
is 3.0.

This site is misleading people (being found in Google and stuff):

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8311887/api-for-plone-4

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http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-novd2d
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    <dc:creator>Mikko Ohtamaa</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2011-11-29T14:27:31</dc:date>
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    <title>New update for Installing on Windows page</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.documentation/4822</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi all,

Could someone please check my work on 
http://plone.org/documentation/manual/installing-plone/installing-on-windows

I'd appreciate it,

&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Larry Pitcher</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2011-10-25T00:40:41</dc:date>
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    <title>Request to join docs team</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.documentation/4816</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi,

I'd like to volunteer to help with the Plone docs. I can update the 
"Installing on Windows" 
(http://plone.org/documentation/manual/installing-plone/installing-on-windows) 
page, since I've just installed the new Plone-4.1.2 on Windows.

If someone could give me the appropriate permissions that would be great.

Thanks,

&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Larry Pitcher</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2011-10-24T22:00:50</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.documentation/4814">
    <title>New user to Plone 4.1 - no option to set Username/Password in Windows installer.</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.documentation/4814</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;We're investigating various Intranet tools to help replace our antiquated .ASP-driven website.  This week it's the turn of Plone.

I've just downloaded and run: setup-plone41-4.1.2-5119-win32 and in step 6 of the instructions on the website - http://plone.org/documentation/manual/installing-plone/installing-on-windows - it says I should be prompted by a wizard for a Username and Password.  I've tried installing once, removing it (removing any files left behind, naturally) and reinstalling it.  I'm not asked for a Username or Password during the set-up procedure.

I can run Plone afterwards but I cannot get further than the 'Create a new Plone site' option as that's asking me for a Username and Password which I've not been given the chance to set up.

Likewise, there is reference in the instructions to a Plone Windows Controller which should be setup with the above installer - I get nothing of the sort.  There isn't a Plone group in my Windows menus at all.


Any help is appreciated

Mike
Technical Author, CD&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Mike Mee</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2011-10-24T13:39:42</dc:date>
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    <title>Dexterity Developer Manual - WebDAV</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.documentation/4812</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hey,

I just tried adding dexterity content via WebDAV. The small snippets in section 6.15 WebDAV and other file representations where very helpful.

http://plone.org/products/dexterity/documentation/manual/developer-manual/advanced/webdav-and-other-file-representations

However, I believe the part about custom IFileFactory could use a small enhancement.

In my code I had to change the call

session = createObject('example.conference.session')

to

session = createObject('example.conference.session', id=name)

else the newly created content object is not getting an id at all. 

I guess this happens, because there is no NameChooser being called during WebDAV content creation, which should not be done anyway, but because of this the id needs to be set upfront.

cheers

Gerhard
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threats, fraudulent&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Gerhard Weis</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2011-10-17T23:58:38</dc:date>
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