http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.microformats.general hourly 1 1901-01-01T00:00+00:00 http://gmane.org/img/gmane-25t.png http://gmane.org http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.microformats.general/13414 <pre>Hi All I am going to be doing a presentation on microformats at a SEO conference in a few weeks. Last time I did this talk the Q&amp;A was full of question asking for figures on the effectiveness of rich snippets at increasing site traffic. Does anyone know of any quantitative research on this subject. I have had a quick look on the web and cannot find anything. Cheers Glenn Jones PS old version of the tal, if your interested - http://www.slideshare.net/glennjones/microformats-and-seo </pre> Glenn Jones 2012-02-14T13:04:38 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.microformats.general/13413 <pre>Hi. I'm new here and hope to have done everything like it is meant to be. I've added a new issue to the hAudio issues: http://microformats.org/wiki/haudio-issues#D10:_2012-02-13__hAudio_sample_and_enclosure_should_support_HTML5_audio What do you think? I think it would make sense to add the option to write the sample/enclosure as audio element with a special class instead of a link with a special rel attribute. Another thing I noticed, but for which I haven't written an issue (yet) is the "position": http://microformats.org/wiki/haudio#Position The spec says it describes the position of the hAudio item in a list. "Examples of hAudio lists can include album track listings, music top 10 lists, playlists, and podcast chapters." So it is ambiguous to what position it actually describes. I want to generate playlists in which I add to each hAudio item *not* the position it has in the playlist (this I want to be inferred from the position in the HTML file), but explicitly the position the song has in its </pre> Mathias Panzenböck 2012-02-13T15:42:39 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.microformats.general/13406 <pre>Hi. I was wondering if there are standards in marking-up layout elements for common regions in HTML documents. I know HTML5 defines &lt;header&gt;, &lt;footer&gt;, &lt;nav&gt; and &lt;article&gt;, and that's very helpful. But also many websites have a &lt;div class="container"&gt; that encloses everything, to squeeze the content into the middle of the page, and I'm never sure if I should, put the &lt;nav&gt; inside the &lt;header&gt; or after it, and how should left and right columns be marked-up? Should they be within the &lt;article&gt; element? Or not? And I thought of using &lt;aside&gt; to denote left and right columns, with classes like "pre" and "post" but I don't know if this is standard either. Does anyone know if anyone has come up with any standards for this sort of thing? I did post this question on stackoverflow.com, but thought you guys might know more than the people that have answered so far: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8615464/standards-for-html-layout-element-class-names Thanks, Robin. </pre> Robin Winslow 2011-12-23T13:23:53 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.microformats.general/13404 <pre>Hi, The Microformats 2 page doesn't yet contain a definition of the JSON serialization algorithm. When it does get written down, the algorithm should specify that e-* properties (whose value is the DOM desendents of the element) get serialized using the Serializing HTML Fragments algorithm in the HTML spec: http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/the-end.html#serializing-html-fragments Ted </pre> Edward O'Connor 2011-12-15T18:41:19 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.microformats.general/13402 <pre>Hello everyone, Anyone knows any hCalendar-to-iCal service that supports simple RRULEs? Test page (am I doing something wrong?) http://jsbin.com/imuniz/5/edit I've looked on the wiki, searched the web, tried all I could think of: Brian's X2V &amp; H2VX (including dev. subdomain), Optimus (XML), ... The only one that picked it up was Glenn's http://ufxtract.com/ but it doesn't provide .ics output. ;) If anyone remembers something I don't, send me in the right direction. Thanks a lot in advance, -- André Luís http://id.andr3.net </pre> André Luís 2011-12-12T14:59:47 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.microformats.general/13395 <pre>Had a request to add hRecipe support to ufXtract, which is now in place Example using API http://ufxtract.com/api/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fallrecipes.com%2FRecipe%2Fslow-cooker-chicken-and-dumplings%2Fdetail.aspx&amp;format=hrecipe&amp;output=json&amp;callback= Test Suite http://ufxtract.com/testsuite/hrecipe/ Source Code for library https://github.com/glennjones/ufxtract Also fixed a couple of bugs with JSON output at the same time. Cheers  Glenn </pre> Glenn Jones 2011-08-22T07:43:55 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.microformats.general/13393 <pre> Hi — I'm in the process of planning to complete our migration to a new hosting sponsor by the end of this weekend. As part of that migration, we may experience a temporary interruption of service as we bring down the list server and change DNS to point at our new mailers. Thanks in advance for your patience, Rohit Khare </pre> Rohit Khare 2011-07-14T07:45:39 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.microformats.general/13385 <pre>Hi all, I don't want to discuss the schema.org effort in general here, although there surely is a lot to discuss about it. My question is how collaboration between Google.com and microformats.org is organized, where it's taking place, who is involved. I'm sure there is and has always been some informal exchange, since people happen to know each other, meet at confernces or other events etc, and of course that's fine with me. I was wondering though when I read the following statement in a transcript of the Schema.org BOF at SemTech 2011 &lt;http://www.w3.org/2011/06/semtech-bof-notes.html&gt;: This sounds like quite some conversations, discussions and thorough work. Now I wonder: how specifically did that "great" and "successfull" work "with the open community" go? Where did it take place? Who was involved? And what exactly was worked out? I won't hesitate to admit that I wasn't a very good editor of hRecipe since summer 2009 but I still am the editor as indicated on the hRecipe wikipage. I wasn't contacted by </pre> thomas lörtsch 2011-06-29T09:55:20 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.microformats.general/13383 <pre>Hi. Lately there have been lots of questionable edits to the hcard-examples-in-wild page. I don't mean outright spam edits, which happen there about as often as on the rest of the wiki. The linked pages do technically have hCards on them. But there are many links from hcard-examples-in-wild to pages of dubious utility. Some examples: * http://www.newtosandiego.com/Ocean-Beach-People's-Organic-Foods-Co-op/ * http://howdoyouknowifyouhavebedbugs.com/ * and many more along those lines. I suspect some "SEO specialists" have adopted hCard on spammy pages like these precisely so they can link to them from our (high PageRank) wiki. Personally, I think we should more heavily curate, or maybe even remove, this page. Back when hCard was new, having real-world examples was helpful to implementors. These days, hCards are on hundreds of millions of web pages. We can meet the needs of implementors by having a much smaller list of examples. Thoughts? Ted </pre> Edward O'Connor 2011-05-11T17:51:12 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.microformats.general/13380 <pre>Hey All, I'm not sure where I'm supposed to post this, but it appears that the wiki's been vandalized. See these pages, (there may be more): http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=On_using_Steroids_vs._Performance-Enhancing_Supplements&amp;rcid=56954 http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=A_Women%27s_Guide_to_Buying_Designer_Jeans&amp;rcid=56955 http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=Popular_For_Many_Reasons&amp;rcid=56956 http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=every_one_of_us_regularly&amp;rcid=56957 http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=Beautiful_Chanel_Designer_Handbags&amp;rcid=56958 - John </pre> John Beales 2011-04-28T03:54:44 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.microformats.general/13379 <pre>Hi All At the recent Brighton meet-up we discussed the use of microformats to mark up forms. The only major point of disagreement seemed to be over the proposed "repeatable" class. This class would be used to demark parts of forms that can be repeated, so users can pick multiples of one item. I have tried to gather together the evidence for why I think this is an important authoring pattern that needs to be addressed. It would be great to hear different views on this and alternative solutions. I have added a wiki page with the information please feel free to edit it. http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard-input-repeatable Below is the current content of the page:     Evidence of repeating sub form patterns in the wild This commonly used authoring pattern allows a user to add multiples of one item. The UI often has a JavaScript text link offering to add another form element or group forms i.e. "Add another email address". The additional form elements are nearly always added using JavaScript. This type of</pre> Glenn Jones 2011-04-23T08:43:03 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.microformats.general/13378 <pre>Hi All Just put a couple of experimental Firefox and Chrome extensions up on my blog that allow you to copy and paste hCards into form. The code is from a larger project I am building, thought it would be interesting in light of the discussions about marking up forms with microformats. http://glennjones.net/2011/04/contact-extensions/ Glenn </pre> Glenn Jones 2011-04-06T09:12:03 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.microformats.general/13377 <pre>Hi All The meetup is going part social and part workshop to brainstorm the input micorformat ideas. It's open to everyone who's interested in microformats and semantic mark-up. If you are just want to join us for the social element that's cool the current plan is keep the brainstorming and discussion part to about an hour at the beginning of the evening. http://microformats.org/wiki/events/2011-04-uk http://lanyrd.com/2011/ufukmeet-april11/ When 2011-03-12 from 19:30 to 23:00 Where Greene Room, The Cricketers Pub, Black Lion Street, Brighton, BN1 1ND, UK As most people who said they who attended came from the Brighton area, we have organised the event in Brighton, but it would be really nice to see as many people as possible. Brighton is only 50 mins from London by train and 4 leave Brighton every hour until 23:37. If your thinking of attending please add your name to the wiki/lanyrd so I can get idea on numbers. Hope to see you there Glenn Jones </pre> Glenn Jones 2011-04-01T11:51:37 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.microformats.general/13372 <pre>My work-in-progress can be viewed at &lt;http://led.dlugosz.com/contact&gt;. My immediate question is how do I decorate the FAX number? &lt;dl class="vcard"&gt; &lt;dt&gt;PHONE&lt;/dt&gt; &lt;dd class="tel"&gt;+1 800-818-5336&lt;/dd&gt; &lt;dt&gt;FAX&lt;/dt&gt; &lt;dd class="tel"&gt;+1 214-295-9491&lt;/dd&gt; ... There is no element enclosing (just) the label FAX and the value, and XHTML prohibits a dummy div here. So where do I put the "type=fax" information? </pre> John M. Dlugosz 2011-03-28T23:21:25 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.microformats.general/13366 <pre>Hi All As suggested by Frances I have created an page for UK meet-up to get a consensus on preferences when and where. If you're interested please take a minute to add yourself to the attendee list and not your preferences. http://microformats.org/wiki/events/2011-04-uk Thanks Glenn Jones </pre> Glenn Jones 2011-02-27T11:53:12 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.microformats.general/13364 <pre>Hello, When registering with a mailing list, most of the images are forbidden (e.g. http://microformats.org/images/mailman/PythonPowered.png) and thus not displaying correctly. Regards, Michael Elliot Network Digital </pre> Michael Elliot 2011-02-25T05:15:09 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.microformats.general/13357 <pre>Hi All If there is a enough interested I would like to setup a UK meet-up to workshop/brainstorm the input microformat ideas. The week of 10-17 April looks good as Tantek is in the UK and most people are back from SXSWi. Jeremy Keith said he would be interested. I could arrange a small event in London or Brighton. What about everyone else? It's been a while since we had a UK microformats meetup. Glenn </pre> Glenn Jones 2011-02-22T08:46:08 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.microformats.general/13351 <pre>It's been noted[1][2] that no drafts are making it to specification, and in short there are two reasons for this: 1. Lack of steps in the process[3] for how a draft should proceed to specification and what each of those mean (other than the summary on the Main Page[4]), including lack of documentation of implicit assumptions such as that all outstanding issues must be resolved on a draft (and any patterns it depends on) before we can in good conscience make it a specification. As the editor/maintainer of the process, I accept full personal responsibility for this. 2. Blocking issues. During the development of various drafts we encountered a few blocker cross-microformat issues (e.g. accessibility, internationalization) which were potentially doing harm. Since then, those cross-microformat issues have been resolved[5], and we've been incorporating those resolutions into the specifications (e.g. hCard, hCalendar) as well as into resolutions of spec-specific issues. I've been working the past few weeks on a</pre> Tantek Çelik 2011-02-19T03:04:03 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.microformats.general/13343 <pre>Hi All I am interested in the use of microformats to mark-up forms. The discussion of building better auto-fill applications and browser extensions using microformats has been going on for a couple of years. Currently, I am starting a couple of projects with interfaces where users can link, drag or copy contacts. Input microformats would be an important addition to these projects. This concept would also be useful for any project using the W3C Contacts API. Hopefully, the draggables.com idea gives some insight into how this could mature. I have spent a couple of days putting together a brainstorm/proposal of how this could work. If you're interested in this idea, could you feedback your thoughts. The wiki is the best place to do this, just vote up or down any ideas and add comments wherever possible. Wish it could of been done in a workshop, but the wiki will do. http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard-input-brainstorming If there is enough interest and feedback from the community, I will build the unit te</pre> Glenn Jones 2011-02-15T19:08:47 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.microformats.general/13342 <pre>Hi Everyone I have just put up the draggables code and demos. For those who have not heard draggables before, it's a javascript library that allows users to exchange data between unrelated web sites using drag and drop. It uses microformats behind the scenes. http://draggables.com/ Glenn </pre> Glenn Jones 2011-02-02T15:04:04 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.microformats.general/13340 <pre>Hi, I just wanted to inform you that your wiki (at least http://microformats.org/wiki/Main_Page) has been spammed. Best regards, Alexandre </pre> Alexandre Patry 2011-01-30T03:07:15 Search the mailing list at Gmane query http://search.gmane.org/?group=$group=gmane.comp.web.microformats.general