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    <title>Compiling PyObjC 2.0 trunk on 10.4</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.pyobjc.devel/5042</link>
    <description>Greetings,

The PyObjC application I'm working on has to run on 10.4 and 10.5,  
which currently forces me to use PyObjC 1.4 on 10.4 to build the app,  
which recently started to cause some very weird performance issues so  
I would *really* like to use PyObjC 2 now.

I'm trying to build the latest sources from trunk on 10.4 and I get  
errors with pyobjc-framework-Cocoa because:
- NSUInteger does not exist on 10.4.
- _CoreFoundation_CFBinaryHeap.m defines an NSObject category with no  
name, which gcc does not seem to like.

Locally fixing these problems allows me to build pyobjc-framework- 
Cocoa, all the other pyobjc-framework that I want to use building just  
fine.

But then I'm having the incomplete bridgesupport files problem. For  
example, this wouldn't work:

from ExceptionHandling import NSLogAndHandleEveryExceptionMask

So I try to regenerate the ExceptionHandling framework bridgesupport  
file using gen_bridge_metadata but I'm not sure what to do with the  
result.

What should I do to be able t</description>
    <dc:creator>Luc Heinrich</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-11-12T20:17:48</dc:date>
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    <title>proxy for a number behaving strangely</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.pyobjc.devel/5040</link>
    <description>I'm sending a dictionary from Python to an ObjC method and one of the  
values is a number. Trouble is, I keep getting this error:

ValueError: NSInvalidArgumentException - Class OC_PythonObject: no  
such selector: isNSString__

The following are trimmed down from the real code and I can't get  
simple examples to fail the way my code does. This implies that it's a  
problem in my code of course, but I'm hoping against hope that someone  
has seen just this error before or can at least tell me what the  
problem might be.

The really strange thing (strange to me with my level of  
understanding) is that I found one case where it does work - and that  
is passing the index value returned by enumerate(&lt;seq&gt;).

assume 'v' comes from enumerate():

myobj.sendDictionary_(dict(version=v))  # works
x=v
myobj.sendDictionary_(dict(version=x))  # works

#all these fail...

myobj.sendDictionary_(dict(version=v))
myobj.sendDictionary_(dict(version=v+1))
x=v+1
myobj.sendDictionary_(dict(version=x))
myobj.sendDictionary_(</description>
    <dc:creator>Paul Thomas</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-10-25T20:57:29</dc:date>
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    <title>NSProgressIndicator ignores incrementBy when calledusing performSelectorOnMainThread_withObject_waitUntilDone_</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.pyobjc.devel/5039</link>
    <description>I am trying to advance an NSProgressIndicator from a thread, therefor  
i am using performSelectorOnMainThread_withObject_waitUntilDone_
to have the incrementBy call done from the main thread.

However while just calling progress_indicator.incrementBy_(some_value)  
works just as expected,
progress_indicator.  
performSelectorOnMainThread_withObject_waitUntilDone_("incrementBy:",  
some_value, True)
just does not seem to do anything. See the code below for an simple  
example.


from Foundation import *
import objc

class controller(NSObject):
     progress_indicator = objc.IBOutlet()

     &lt; at &gt;objc.IBAction
     def go_(self, sender):
         # WORKS
          
self.performSelectorOnMainThread_withObject_waitUntilDone_("test:",  
25, True)

         # DOES NOT SEEM TO WORK
         
self 
.progress_indicator 
.performSelectorOnMainThread_withObject_waitUntilDone_("incrementBy:",  
25.0, True)

     def test_(self, x):
         print 'yaye', x


What am I doing wrong?

Regards,

Johannes

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    <dc:date>2008-10-25T16:46:26</dc:date>
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    <title>PyObjC on Leopard</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.pyobjc.devel/5038</link>
    <description>Hi there,

I spent quite a bit of time scouring the internet for answers, and  
there don't seem to be any... so now I put these to you:

1) The pyobjc website says Leopard users should install from svn  
trunk.  Why?  What (bad) happens if I use pyobjc 1.4 + python 2.5.2  
(Framework, non-System) + Leopard (OSX 10.5.x)?

2) Is there anything that's simply an amazing improvement in 2.0 (for  
existing code that already works with 1.4)?

3) How the heck to I build 2.x PyObjC from the trunk.  I've found  
threads where other's asked about this, but they never ended in an  
answer...

FWIW - I'm interested in getting pyobjc into the Enthought Python  
Distribution - which requires compatibility with 10.4.  So another  
angle on the above would be

4) Could I build pyobjc (mpkg or egg or what have you) that would work  
on both 10.4 and 10.5?

Thanks!
Dav



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    <title>Method Swizzling - class_getInstanceMethod</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.pyobjc.devel/5037</link>
    <description>Hello,
How exactly do I use this function? For example,

This is a plugin in Python(Leopard 10.5.5), the principal class is  
Voo(see end of email).
I load the bundle and  instantiate it like this

NSBundle *bun=[NSBundle bundleWithPath:&lt; at &gt;"/Users/yanger/toperuse/PyRu/ 
example2/dist/gigo.plugin"];
Class currPrincipalClass = [bun principalClass];
id ins=[[currPrincipalClass alloc] init];

(i'm basing this of PyRu)
Voo is trying to swizzle goody method I added to PythonStuff.
However,
a) load is not run
b)  &lt;type 'exceptions.AttributeError'&gt;: 'module' object has no  
attribute 'class_getInstanceMethod'

Any ideas what I should do?
Thanks
Saptarshi


==Python Bundle(gigo.py)==
from Foundation import *
from AppKit import *
from Foundation import *
import objc

class PythonStuff(objc.Category(PythonStuff)):
     def mygoody(self):
         NSLog("Alpha betea")

class Voo(NSObject):
     &lt; at &gt;classmethod
     def load(cls):
         NSLog("A")
     def init(self):
         super(Voo, self).init()
         NSLog("B:")
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    <dc:creator>Saptarshi Guha</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-10-14T05:54:14</dc:date>
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    <title>Import PyObjC Class/Module into Objective-C</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.pyobjc.devel/5035</link>
    <description>
Hi,

Documentation on PyObjC is pretty sparse.  I want to instantiate PyObjC classes in Objective-C objects.

Any docs or example code would be much appreciated.

If there's no  documentation floating around out there, which header files in the framework should I get more aquatinted with?

Many thanks,
Mike
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    <title>class vs. instance attributes for IBOutlets</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.pyobjc.devel/5030</link>
    <description>I'm re-learning Python, and learning Cocoa and PyObjC all at the same  
time.  So maybe this is silly question:

The examples I've seen have the IBOutlets (and often data too) defined  
at the class level, like so:

class ToDoListAppDelegate(NSObject):
     toDoTableView = objc.IBOutlet()
     newItemField = objc.IBOutlet()
     toDoList = []


But it occurred to me last night that this would be a problem in an  
NSObject class that might have more than one instance -- wouldn't  
apply to the app delegate, of course, but it could apply to a window  
controller.  So I moved the toDoList (which is a mutable type) to the  
init function.  Then, on a lark, I found I could move the IBOutlets  
there too, so it looks like this:

class ToDoListAppDelegate(NSObject):
     def init(self):
         NSLog(u"init")
         self.toDoTableView = objc.IBOutlet()
         self.newItemField = objc.IBOutlet()
         self = super(ToDoListAppDelegate, self).init()
         if self is not None: self.toDoList = []
         ret</description>
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    <title>Build app under 10.5 XCode to run on earlier systems?</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.pyobjc.devel/5025</link>
    <description>If I have a PyObjC application built using XCode with the default
Python installation and default XCode templates under OS X version
10.5 (example: http://www.ics.uci.edu/~eppstein/LaTeX_Unicodifier.dmg.gz,
although I actually care about a more complex app I'm working on that
is not yet ready for public release), the built app does not include
any of the standard Python framework or libraries and will therefore
not run under earlier versions of the OS that did not come with PyObjC
preinstalled. Is there an easy way to convince XCode to make a more
universal application?

A related question: if I want my app to use psyco, it seems easy
enough to add a few lines in main.py attempting to import and run that
module, and doing nothing if the import fails. But that will only give
a speedup on systems in which psyco has already been installed. Is
there an easy way to convince XCode to include psyco within the build?

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    <title>NSWindow launched from statusItem menuItem does notappear</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.pyobjc.devel/5024</link>
    <description>Hi,

I have a statusItem based application written in PyObjC. The  
statusItem has a menuItem which is supposed to launch a new window  
when it is clicked.

In my AppDelegate.py
...
menuitem =  
NSMenuItem.alloc().initWithTitle_action_keyEquivalent_('Preferences',  
'launchPreferences:', '')
menu.addItem_(menuitem)
...

The launchPreferences method:

def launchPreferences_(self, notification):
     NSLog('AppDelegate: launchPreferences')
     self.preferences = Preferences.alloc().init()
     self.preferences.showWindow_(self)

which is creating a new object from Preferences.py

class Preferences(NSWindowController):

where I have:

def init(self):
     NSLog('Preferences: init')
     self = super(Preferences, self).init()
     self.initWithWindowNibName_('Preferences')
     return self

When I run the application in XCode (Build &amp; Go), this works fine.  
However, when I run the built .app file externally from XCode, the  
statusItem and menuItem appear as expected but when I click on the  
Preferences menu</description>
    <dc:creator>David Mytton</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-10-05T15:08:21</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.pyobjc.devel/5023">
    <title>Changing the system volume</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.pyobjc.devel/5023</link>
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  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.pyobjc.devel/5019">
    <title>Build a NSview without the nib file.</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.pyobjc.devel/5019</link>
    <description>Hi,
I'am develop an application that must receive tablet event. To do this  
I write a simple pyobjc application that
instance the NSView subclass and redefine the method that I would  
manage.
The my problem is:

Can I use directly python function to instance NSView, without the nib  
file?
In Other words, I want to launch my application without making a  
bundle and nib file.
I want use directly pyobjc to build my view and use it.

thanks.

</description>
    <dc:creator>Daniele Basile</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-10-02T13:27:56</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.pyobjc.devel/5016">
    <title>newbie questions about PyObjC</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.pyobjc.devel/5016</link>
    <description>I last used Python years ago, but now I'm considering it again.  Mac  
application development is very important to my work, so this led me  
to PyObjC.  But I'm confused on a few points...

1. The 2008-05-27 status update says that it doesn't support 10.4....  
yet the "status" area says that PyObjC supports 10.3.9 and later, and  
I see that PyObjC 2.0 not only supports 10.5, but it's actually  
included with the OS.  So which is it?  Is 10.4 supported or not?

2. The "Examples" area of the web site talks about some great-sounding  
examples... but where do I get them?  (They don't seem to match up to  
the folders in /Developer/Examples/Python/PyObjC/.)

3. How do I run the examples in /Developer/Examples/Python/PyObjC/?   
None of the folders seem to contain a prebuilt executable, and the  
"read me" files usually don't make much sense.  For example, the one  
in PyObjC/Cocoa/AppKit/DatePicker directs me to run the "supplied  
XCode project," but there isn't any.  I tried cd'ing to that directory  
and d</description>
    <dc:creator>Joe Strout</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-10-02T21:42:29</dc:date>
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    <title>PyObjC, OpenGL &amp; XCode</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.pyobjc.devel/5014</link>
    <description>

Hopefully someone can help me out here. I am, as the subject suggests,  
trying to get OpenGL and PyObjC to play nice.

I have been successful in the past using the general format of the  
OpenGL example included in the PyObjC distribution, but I have found  
that I was having some trouble with modifying it due to the new  
Interface Builder. As a result, I decided to give the new XCode based  
approach a go. I created a new document based python application and  
then generally followed the path of the golden triangle demo in the  
OpenGL programming guide from the Apple dev center. That worked fine  
and I got a nice triangle displaying.

The problem comes when I start to get a little more involved. My view  
is a subclass of NSOpenGLView and I want to be able to override the  
useful methods like prepareOpenGL and reshape. However, as soon as I  
add one of those functions (even if they don't do anything), the  
application breaks and this shows up in the console:

9/27/08 11:26:08 AM Analyzer[19022] **</description>
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    <title>[ pyobjc-Bugs-2128265 ] obj-c instances should notreturn utf8 in __repr__</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.pyobjc.devel/5013</link>
    <description>Bugs item #2128265, was opened at 2008-09-25 14:46
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Submitted By: Vladimir Pouzanov (farcaller)
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Summary: obj-c instances should not return utf8 in __repr__

Initial Comment:
__repr__ of obj-c class instances should not return unicode (from [someobj description]), this makes interpreters (python, ipython) very unhappy, failing with:

UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\u***' in position ***: ordinal not in range(128)

repr should only return some internal description of object,

return PyString_FromFormat(
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    <title>Accessing ivars in objc parent class requiresobjc.getInstanceVariable() ?</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.pyobjc.devel/5011</link>
    <description>I'm creating a class in Python, inheriting from an objc base class  
using NSClassFromString().

I can't seem to access IBOutlets or ivars defined in the base class  
directly.  I can use objc.get/setInstanceVariable to get at the ivars  
but IB can't see the parent class IBOutlets at all even though, if I  
try to redefine them I get an error that they're already defined.

Is there any reason I should have to use a function to get at the  
ivars defined in the objc parent class?  I've not been using PyObjc  
lately but I don't remember this being an issue before.

Clues?

Thanks,

Steve


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    <title>How to translate from Obj-C?</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.pyobjc.devel/5009</link>
    <description>Hi Everybody!

I'm trying to do my own toolbox in IB. I'm watching carefully Obj-C  
example Sketch, and I found in app delegate:


and  in SKTToolPaletteController



All my attempts generates error "&lt;class 'objc.error'&gt;: need self  
argument"  :-(

Could somebody help me?

Ł


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  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.pyobjc.devel/5008">
    <title>Disk imaging</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.pyobjc.devel/5008</link>
    <description>I'm wondering if anyone has used pyobjc for creating or manipulating disk
images. I assume that because the system's DiskImages.framework is in
/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks that it's not a good idea to use it for an
app/script.

But, has anyone done something else for disk images with pyobjc? I think I'd
rather go that route for an idea I have, if it's tenable, than calling the
command line utility "hdiutil."

Thanks!


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    <dc:creator>Jeremy Reichman</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-09-18T14:28:16</dc:date>
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    <description>Hi!

(sorry for english)
Is it possible to compile PyObjC project in XCode and hide/deattach  
all source files inside .app?

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    <dc:date>2008-09-12T14:21:13</dc:date>
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    <description>Hi All, i'm fairly new at PyObjC, so bear with me. I'm trying to
search the local FS for files using an MSMetadataQuery object. I've
been looking at the PredicateEditorSample here on
pyobjc.sourceforge.net, which I have based alot (read: all :) ) of my
code from. Heres some code from the class:



class SystemBridge(NSObject):
#deleted some stuff
query = objc.ivar()

#deleted some more stuff

def newQuery_(self, _filename, _filetype):
self.query = NSMetadataQuery.alloc().init()

#Create a notification so we can see what is happening with the search
nf = NSNotificationCenter.defaultCenter()
nf.addObserver_selector_name_object_(self, 'queryNotification:',
None, self.query)

#Create the query
self.query.setSortDescriptors_([NSSortDescriptor.alloc().initWithKey_ascending_('kMDItemDisplayName',
True)])
self.query.setDelegate_(self)


#########Set the predicate, having problems here?
#thePredicate =
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    <dc:creator>Chris Stevens</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-09-07T07:05:53</dc:date>
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    <title>Packaging pyobjc 2.0 for python 2.5</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.pyobjc.devel/5004</link>
    <description>I just want to understand why there is no package for pyobjc 2? I
tried to build it for python.org python 2.5.2 but after building it
fail some tests so maybe i'm doing something wrong.

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    <dc:creator>Leonardo Santagada</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-09-07T01:52:17</dc:date>
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    <dc:date>2008-09-05T05:33:03</dc:date>
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