http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.comp.misc.translate.devel hourly 1 1901-01-01T00:00+00:00 http://gmane.org/img/gmane-25t.png http://gmane.org http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.misc.translate.devel/2660 <pre>Hallo everybody Several of the products have been enjoying some code cleanups, and I think it is time to raise the topic of deprecating some older features. I'm often one to hold onto old features, because I don't want to take anything away from anybody, but here are a few things that I'm thinking of that can improve things. I'd like to hear other people's opinions. Please reply where you have an opinion or where you might be impacted. A related topic might be to raise our required versions for our dependencies, but there aren't any specific ones that come to mind, except that we had to raise the requirement for Django to version 1.2 for the upcoming version of Pootle. So these are some suggestions for removal: - Old .ts format converter to PO. We got a bug report today about lack of support for some features in ts2po. Since Pootle and Virtaal supports .ts files natively, the converter didn't get much attention again. I'd actually like for someone to write a basic converter that uses the new TS sup</pre> F Wolff 2012-05-24T13:30:19 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.misc.translate.devel/2644 <pre>Hi, when I was playing this morning with Virtaal I noticed that the Virtaal tutorial hints doesn't appear in the Virtaal interface language. Are Virtaal tutorial hints translatable? Bye ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. 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I guess the problem is that the package name should be translate-toolkit in the first place on Pypi, Translate Toolkit being the pretty (display) name. Should I open a ticket on Pypi bug tracker for that? Claude </pre> Claude Paroz 2012-05-08T20:44:29 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.misc.translate.devel/2630 <pre>Hi, all. I found a problem of puting korean in Virtaal. Watch this video. It would be easier to understand the problem. http://youtu.be/S-edmYJJK_I The original text is "Go to %s page" and Translation is "%s 페이지로 이동" However when I typed "페이지", it remained only "페지". "이" was missed. "이" consists of "ㅇ"+"ㅣ", so two letters missed. and it happened to "이동". It was supposed be "이동", but there is only "이ㅇ". Also two letters was missed. "ㄷ" and "ㅗ" please check this out. Thanks. </pre> Jihui Choi 2012-04-27T20:32:08 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.misc.translate.devel/2629 <pre>Hi everybody People have sometimes asked for the possibility to do things like project-wide updates or commits to version control. Stuart Prescott developed two manage.py commands that can be used to achieve this, and I committed it in git with a few changes. This was the bug report: http://bugs.locamotion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1491 The original versions that he posted should work fine in Pootle 2.1 (maybe even 2.0!) if copied into local_apps/pootle_app/management/commands The committed version needed a change to Pootle, so the versions in git won't work as-is with released versions of Pootle, but do mostly the same thing. It would be great if interested people can try it out or give their feedback. Hopefully we see this in Pootle 2.2! Keep well Friedel </pre> F Wolff 2012-04-18T10:04:41 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.misc.translate.devel/2627 <pre>Hello All, First I hope that I'm sending these questions to the right place, and if I'm not I apologize. Second, a bit of background. I'm working on an embedded project that uses a PIC32 micro and the po2c system to produce localization for our GUI. The system that I'm working on has a small GUI (480x272) and some rather severe constraints on the length and formatting of messages. I have added Translator comments to all of the strings that need to be translated. The people that we are using to do our translations don't seem to be able to use the tools that support .po files so I need to convert to .csv files for them, but I need to keep the extracted comments to tell the translator what the constraints are for each message. I'm not a Python programmer so I may be a bit confused about the workings of the Translate Toolkit. In doing a quick browse of the code used in the po2csv &amp; csv2po converters I see that both the po &amp; csv storage utilities support the extracted comments but the po2csv converter doe</pre> Greg Wilson-Lindberg 2012-04-09T17:49:59 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.misc.translate.devel/2622 <pre>Hello, The API docs for the Translate Toolkit have received a big update. We have converted the source docstrings from epytext to reStructuredText, thus moving off the unmaintained Epydoc[1] to the widely used Sphinx[2]. The new API docs are available online at ReadTheDocs: http://readthedocs.org/docs/translate-toolkit/en/latest/api/ The docs are rebuilt after each commit so this means they will always be up-to-date. For now we have only moved the API docs but the general idea is to move everything there. As always, feedback and patches are more than welcome. [1] http://epydoc.sourceforge.net/ [2] http://sphinx.pocoo.org/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Better than sec? Nothing is better than sec when it comes to monitoring Big Data applications. Try Boundary one-second resolution app monitoring today. Free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-dev2dev </pre> Julen Ruiz Aizpuru 2012-04-03T23:15:35 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.misc.translate.devel/2615 <pre>Hi, I am working on a project at sahana-eden[1] which uses translate-toolkit for it's translation process. Currently the py file generated by the system contains only the source string and target string. I am to modify the system so that the py file contains more info such as file name, line number, source string, traget string, comments for translator etc. With all those info in the py file, web2py2po won't be able to generate the po file from that. So is it possible to define a format and get it converted to a po file? [1] http://eden.sahanafoundation.org/ </pre> Kalpa Welivitigoda 2012-03-22T06:28:24 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.misc.translate.devel/2610 <pre>Following up on: http://bloc.eurion.net/archives/2010/language-identification-and-free-software/ """ F Wolff says: September 27, 2010 at 10:32 We already implemented our own Python code based on the n-gram technique in the Translate Toolkit, which is currently used by Virtaal to help users do language selection. You can see the code here: http://translate.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/translate/src/trunk/translate/lang/ngram.py http://translate.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/translate/src/trunk/translate/lang/identify.py It is based on a toy Python implementation we found at the time. Please work with us to make the best Python language detection available. Our code works well, but the models aren’t great, and there are some languages it struggles to identify at the moment. We tried to remove some of the incorrect models from our copy to try to improve the quality. Let me know if you want to discuss some possibilities for reuse/factoring out. """ I would like to factor the language detection out into a sepa</pre> Christian Ledermann 2012-03-13T14:06:19 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.misc.translate.devel/2607 <pre>Hi there, I am new to the list. I am primarily a C coder for the WINE project however we have recently switched to PO files for our translation needs. I administrate a very simple pootle install for a different project and was advocating for pootle for WINE's translation needs, however there is a snag. Wine requires that all changes made be attributed directly to the person making the change. Which means that we would need a way for pootle to track each translation and be able to attribute it directly to the person who made it. Then either we would need pootle to be able to either generate diff patches from the original containing each translators changes, or push git commits again attributed to each translator. I have started looking at the pootle code, however I will freely admit my python skills are in their infancy. I was hoping a more seasoned pootle developer could give me some insight into if this is possible already, planned, or going to be super hard. thanks! -aric ------</pre> Aric Stewart 2012-02-22T14:09:19 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.misc.translate.devel/2606 <pre> I've built a new Virtaal 0.7.1 package for Mac: http://sourceforge.net/projects/translate/files/Virtaal/0.7.1/Virtaal-0.7.1-Mac-Beta-2.dmg This fixes these issues: * Can't open XML file formats e.g. TMX and XLIFF: we now reference the packaged lxml correctly. * Native dialogs crash on Lion. Reverted to using GTK dialogs until we can work out how to fix this. </pre> Dwayne Bailey 2012-02-10T17:12:22 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.misc.translate.devel/2604 <pre>Hi All, I've run into an issue with the 'po2prop' tool. Is this the best place to report a (possible) bug? Thanks, Patrick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. 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Keep well Friedel </pre> F Wolff 2012-02-02T14:36:41 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.misc.translate.devel/2600 <pre> I've just uploaded Mac builds for Virtaal 0.7.1 Get it here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/translate/files/Virtaal/0.7.1/Virtaal-0.7.1-Mac-Beta-1.dmg Big improvements: * We are now using CoreText. Which in laymans terms means that RTL e.g. Arabic and CTL e.g. Japanese will render correctly. Major issues: * Input methods. For languages that need their own special input methods we can't support them. So Latin languages = yes, others = most likely no. There are some promising patches that implement an input method for Mac in GTK, this would then use native Mac input methods. Other minor things: * Still haven't got native spell checking to work * The translation state widget sometimes gets corrupted * Native dialogs will sometimes cause Virtaal to crash </pre> Dwayne Bailey 2012-02-01T13:33:01 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.misc.translate.devel/2597 <pre> Today the Translate team released version 0.7.1 of Virtaal. Virtaal is an advanced program with features to help translators increase translation quality and have fun. This is a bugfix release, with one new feature (Drag and Drop support) that came as the simplest way to solve a bug. Please forward this to people who might be interested. This release is another good step forward for the project. Highlights ========== - New and updated translations - The Windows setup file now has a Galician translation for Innosetup - Support for Drag and Drop into the Virtaal window (bug 1955) - Improvements to the Moses machine translation plugin - Search highlighting sometimes incorrect (bug 1944) - Some improvements towards fixing bug 1789 (also search highlighting) - Some performance improvements (search and startup time) - Reduced memory use in long sessions - Support for non-ASCII installation paths - Support for non-ASCII usernames (bug 2000) [reported by Zbyněk Schwarz] The Windows build also inclu</pre> F Wolff 2012-01-10T08:53:38 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.misc.translate.devel/2597 <pre> Today the Translate team released version 0.7.1 of Virtaal. Virtaal is an advanced program with features to help translators increase translation quality and have fun. This is a bugfix release, with one new feature (Drag and Drop support) that came as the simplest way to solve a bug. Please forward this to people who might be interested. This release is another good step forward for the project. Highlights ========== - New and updated translations - The Windows setup file now has a Galician translation for Innosetup - Support for Drag and Drop into the Virtaal window (bug 1955) - Improvements to the Moses machine translation plugin - Search highlighting sometimes incorrect (bug 1944) - Some improvements towards fixing bug 1789 (also search highlighting) - Some performance improvements (search and startup time) - Reduced memory use in long sessions - Support for non-ASCII installation paths - Support for non-ASCII usernames (bug 2000) [reported by Zbyněk Schwarz] The Windows build also inclu</pre> F Wolff 2012-01-10T08:53:38 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.misc.translate.devel/2590 <pre>Hi, i have problems with translate-toolkit, virtaal and mailman. I have reported first two bugs but get no attention. May be this mailing list is more active. Let's, i try to define my problems: I'm an Archlinux user and a turkish translator. My locale is tr_TR.UTF8. and that is the source of my problems. I have compiled virtaal from source without any extra options. Also all dependencies are installed from official Archlinux repositories and when i checeked them i see that those dependency packages created without any patches or special compile time options. So, those packages are safe to use. ERROR 1: When i tried to install virtaal i hit this bug: http://bugs.locamotion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2072 Virtaal simply refused to install complaining about ASCII. I go further and found that it is a lxml bug (see: https://bugs.launchpad.net/lxml/+bug/899066 ) Lxml developers fixed that issue and committed to lxml git. I have compiled lxml from git and installed, ERROR 2: Than i again tried to install virtaal and t</pre> atilla ontas 2011-12-05T09:55:03 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.misc.translate.devel/2589 <pre>Hi all! I'm in the process of putting translate-toolkit and virtaal into the main openSUSE repository (OSS) which means that for 12.2 (the next oS) and beyond users will not have to handle with repositories, etc. What I'm asking is to the pro's give a look at the Requires and BuildRequires of both packages (below) and see if I'm not missing anything or changing some dependency which is for execution into the build requires. # spec file for package translation-toolkit BuildRequires: python BuildRequires: python-devel Requires: gettext-runtime Requires: python-lxml &gt;= 2.1.4 Requires: python-simplejson Requires: python-Levenshtein Requires: python-iniparse Requires: vobject Requires: python-enchant Suggests: gaupol %ifarch %{ix86} Requires: python-psyco %endif # The following are needed for man page generation BuildRequires: python-lxml-doc &gt;= 2.1.4 ---------------------------- # spec file for virtaal BuildRequires: python-devel BuildRequires: python-lxm</pre> Luiz Fernando Ranghetti 2011-11-30T19:43:10 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.misc.translate.devel/2588 <pre> Hi everybody I'm considering making a few somewhat big changes to pofilter's autocorrect behaviour. Naturally I hope it will be an improvement, but I'm just wondering if anybody relies on the current behaviour, and of course, I'm looking for people willing to test whatever new behaviour I might come up with. The current issues that I want to address: - it isn't language aware at all, so it will force the punctuation to be the same as the source text - it doesn't handle spacing mistakes in before the final punctuation - it can only fix one error Keep well Friedel </pre> F Wolff 2011-11-10T11:24:17 Search the mailing list at Gmane query http://search.gmane.org/?group=$group=gmane.comp.misc.translate.devel