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  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.microcontrollers.pic/154384">
    <title>[EE] Sun SUNSPOT - new ?</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.microcontrollers.pic/154384</link>
    <description>This is new to me. Sun Microsystems has come out with something called SunSpot,
tiny Java programmable microcontrollers aimed at developers.

http://www.sunspotworld.com/docs/

Does anybody here use them ?

Peter

</description>
    <dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-12-01T14:53:57</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.microcontrollers.pic/154382">
    <title>[admin] question</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.microcontrollers.pic/154382</link>
    <description>Is there a badword filter on this list ? I posted a short message that contained
the word s k u n k and it seems to be gone. I would like to know.

Peter


</description>
    <dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-12-01T14:23:07</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.microcontrollers.pic/154372">
    <title>[EE] A few days work for a Technician / Engineer / Student in NewYork city</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.microcontrollers.pic/154372</link>
    <description>Available (maybe):

A few days basic mechanical / electrical hands on work.
Boring and repetitive :-).

Location:  New York City or nearby.

_________


I MAY have a requirement in the immediate future for a technician (even an
engineer would suffice :-) )(and a competent student may be as good as any
if they had the time available) in or near New York city.

Technical level of work is yet to be decided but may be not much more
than the ability to use a
screwdriver and to demonstrate a good level of common sense and reliability.
May be up to a weeks work - possibly half that.

Payment - as little as possible and as much as necessary.

If possibly interested please contact me OFFLIST at MKBStechnology&lt; at &gt;gmail.com
(NOT to this email's send address.)


     SME
</description>
    <dc:creator>SME</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-12-01T05:30:23</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.microcontrollers.pic/154321">
    <title>[PIC] Comparing a PIC with a PLC</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.microcontrollers.pic/154321</link>
    <description>I'm assessing a job, which I think a low-end 18F can do fairly simply. The
logic is quite straight-forward. Inputs are two 4-20mA transducers, a mains
relay, and two temperature sensors, with a real-time clock. Outputs are
a couple of alarm lines, LCD, and a few pushbuttons to set parameters

The scenario might be something like - If transducer1 is a certain value
and temperature sensor2 is a certain value, then turn on the mains and
measure temperature sensor1 after 1 minute to make sure the appliance
(a chiller) is running. And various IF....THEN combos like that

I was talking over the pricing structure with a couple of people and they
both suggested that I base it at less than the cost of an 'industrial PLC'
which would be needed. Their thought is that the lower (but not too low)
price mentioned in the same breath as a PLC will make my PIC sound
more attractive. Can't say I'm 100% about that but they won't shut up
about PLCs !

I'm a complete ignoramus in the PLC department

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/</description>
    <dc:creator>Jinx</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-11-29T08:20:43</dc:date>
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    <title>[PIC] Garbage out of UART after "reset" instruction -- weird fix</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.microcontrollers.pic/154307</link>
    <description>Just throwing this out there, in case someone knows about the issue...

So we have a chip, that prints a "welcome" message on startup. It is 
possible to sent it a message on UART, that would execute the "reset" 
instruction, which is #defined like this:

    #define p_Reset() __asm__ volatile ("reset")

Everything was working well, until I turned on optimizations. On power-on, 
the chip sends the welcome message like it should. However, after the UART 
"reset" command, it spits out a bunch of garbage instead of the welcome 
string. Inserting a small delay:

    for (i =0; i &lt; 100; i++) ;

..fixes the problem (i &lt; 10 is not long enough).

Any ideas about what's going on? I'm just starting to look into this 
problem, but in case someone knows the answer and wants to help me an hour 
or two of debugging, I'll be grateful. :)

Vitaliy



</description>
    <dc:creator>Vitaliy</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-11-29T01:45:11</dc:date>
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    <title>[OT] Angry Mac man</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.microcontrollers.pic/154306</link>
    <description>Yesterday we did an email blast (to our existing customers) announcing the 
ScanMaster software. Apparently, it made someone very, very upset.

-------------------------
WE KNOW THIS WILL SHOCK YOU TO YOUR VERY CORE DUO 2, BUT THERE ARE MANY, 
MANY MAC PEOPLE OUT HERE WHO ARE KNOWN TO PURCHASE COOL ELEGANT STUFF - NO 
MATTER THE COST! MEANWHILE, YOU ONLY MARKET TO THE PC COMMUNITY, WHOSE ONLY 
GOAL IN LIFE IS TO SEE HOW CHEAPLY THEY CAN BUILD ONE! DUH?!


MARK MY PROFILE AS A MAC-ONLY USER (IF YOU CAN GET YOUR PC TO DO THAT) AND 
PLEASE DO NOT WASTE MY TIME WITH "OFFERS" I CANNOT USE. IF THAT CODING IS 
TOO TOUGH, PLEASE JUST REMOVE ME FROM ALL YOUR MAILING LISTS. THANK YOU SO 
MUCH!



[snipped eight signature lines]


"Never ask a man what computer he uses. If it's a Mac, he'll tell you. If 
it's not, why embarrass him?" - Tom Clancy
-------------------------

:) 

</description>
    <dc:creator>Vitaliy</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-11-28T23:59:39</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.microcontrollers.pic/154301">
    <title>[OT] Business for sale</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.microcontrollers.pic/154301</link>
    <description>http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sideswipe/news/article.cfm?c_id=702&amp;objectid=10544819

</description>
    <dc:creator>Jinx</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-11-28T20:24:30</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.microcontrollers.pic/154300">
    <title>[AD] ScanMaster OBD-II diagnostic software</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.microcontrollers.pic/154300</link>
    <description>We launched a new version of the scantool.net site on Wednesday night. This
has just been added:

http://www.scantool.net/scanmaster.html

Comments on the site/software/etc, are very welcome.

ScanMaster is a software for automotive diagnostics, with a clean and simple
interface.

Key features:

    * Automatic, hands-off protocol detection
    * Real-time data, available in the form of tables, graphs, and gauges
    * Reads all generic and manufacturer-specific DTCs
    * Database of over 4200 generic DTCs, and over 3600
manufacturer-specific DTCs
    * Can be used to turn off the "Check Engine" light (MIL), and clear all
emissions-related diagnostic information
    * Oxygen sensor test results
    * Continuous and non-continuous monitor test results
    * VIN, Calibration ID, In-Use Performance Tracking
    * Multi-language support: Croatian, Czech, Danish, English, Greek,
Hungarian, Polish, Serbian, and Spanish.
    * Metric and English units of measure
    * Printable diagnostic reports
    * Data loggin</description>
    <dc:creator>Vitaliy</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-11-28T19:33:14</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.microcontrollers.pic/154299">
    <title>[AD] Bluetooth + RS232 adapters, OBD cables -- smaller lots</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.microcontrollers.pic/154299</link>
    <description>Updated descriptions, most items now come in smaller lots.

http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/obd2cables

More OBD cables here:

&lt;http://www.obd2cables.com/products/cables/obd-ii-cables/?limit=all&gt;
</description>
    <dc:creator>Vitaliy</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-11-28T19:24:39</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.microcontrollers.pic/154294">
    <title>[AD] 20 MHz microprocessor crystals for sale</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.microcontrollers.pic/154294</link>
    <description>100 pieces of ECS HC49/US SMT package 20.0 MHz microprocessor crystals. $13
per hundred.

Make offer for smaller or larger quantity.

Also have other items available, http://www.box.net/shared/a29nl8yqf4 for
more complete list.

Paypal accepted.

Enjoy.

Art
</description>
    <dc:creator>Artie Jones</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-11-28T17:28:12</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.microcontrollers.pic/154274">
    <title>[EE]:: SMD switch mounting reliability - comments sought</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.microcontrollers.pic/154274</link>
    <description>An existing push button N/O push to operate switch uses through hole 
techology. Use rate is reasonably high - target is 100,000 reliable 
operations in 5 years. It's behind a rubber boot and forces on it are liable 
to be "reasonably vertical" most of the time. A user would have to try 
reasonably hard to exert any noticeable sideforce on the switch. It's in 
portable equipment which is liable to be in regular use every dau in many 
cases and also liable to be subject to a reasonable amount of rough and 
tumble The switch is not liable to usually be subject to extreme forces and 
it's not a high vibration environment. [[No prizes for guestimating the 
appliocation. Nor comment probably]].

SO

The manufacturer wants to change to a surface mount switch.
I'm a bit dubious about the probable longevity of the mounting if solder 
alone is used. Adhesive could be added as a backup.

Any thoughts?

Ant experiences to relate?

Vaguely related data points:

- Solder is subject to creep tatigue.

- Make a key ring fr</description>
    <dc:creator>apptech</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-11-28T06:21:41</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.microcontrollers.pic/154202">
    <title>[OT] How should I teach electronics (to a seven-year old)?</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.microcontrollers.pic/154202</link>
    <description>I've seen many recommendations on how to teach electronics in this
forum but they were all geared towards more mature students.

My 7-year old grand-daughter wants to learn electronics.  The last
thing I want to do is to discourage her by using the wrong approach.
I'm not convinced that some kits labeled as suitable for a seven year
old are necessarily good for learning.  They may be more about
playing.

If anyone here has some pointers (courses, kits, advice, etc...) I
would sincerely appreciate it.

Normand
</description>
    <dc:creator>Normand Fisher</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-11-26T20:52:18</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.microcontrollers.pic/154192">
    <title>[EE] Miniature 7-segment display</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.microcontrollers.pic/154192</link>
    <description>Hi Xiaofan:

I have some hand held military radios that have a LCD assembly which is 
slightly larger than a Nickel coin, see: http://www.prc68.com/I/816173.shtml#LCD
there are 5 7-segment characters about 1/8" high.  It uses COB technology and 
has a back light.  I have not found a source for them as spare parts.
http://www.prc68.com/I/816173.shtml#LCD

I've started looking into using a multiplexed glass, which might be lower in 
cost than a custom part but that takes many more PIC pins to drive than the 4 
wire interface for the above COB unit.

</description>
    <dc:creator>Brooke Clarke</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-11-26T17:35:28</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.microcontrollers.pic/154181">
    <title>[PIC] default configuration bits</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.microcontrollers.pic/154181</link>
    <description>Hi, guys!

Do you think that chips that I buy from Microchip have default Config 
Bits programmed?
If yes, how I can know what is the 'default'

</description>
    <dc:creator>Artem Zezyulinskiy</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-11-26T15:46:37</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.microcontrollers.pic/154150">
    <title>[EE]: Reprap circuit printing</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.microcontrollers.pic/154150</link>
    <description>The second generation of reprap is supposed to support printing 
circuit.  The method proposed is printing low-melt metal such as field's 
metal or woods metal.  This has a number of drawbacks, the low 
melt-point is generally incompatible with any form of power electronics 
since high temperatures could cause melting, woods metal is toxic and 
the alternative, field's metal, melts at an even lower temperature.  
Because the molten metal has high surface tension, it must be poured 
into channels rather than being extruded onto a smooth surface.


Based on these issues, I've been looking for another solution for 
printing conductive material.
The broad requirements for the material are these:
1. Must be printable, that is it must be possible to load a syringe up 
with the material, squeeze it out onto the substrate, and let it cure.  
Two-part compounds would be alright provided that a mechanism for 
clearing the print nozzle is practical.
2. Must be conductive, at least as conductive as gold (Ag&gt;Cu&gt;Al&gt;Au)
3.</description>
    <dc:creator>Brendan Moran</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-11-26T03:06:25</dc:date>
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    <title>[EE] ADC development module recommendations</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.microcontrollers.pic/154113</link>
    <description>Hi list,
for a school project, I would like to implement some digital signal
processing in an FPGA. To accomplish that, I'm in need of an ADC front-end,
and for reasons of development time and lack of experience, I would like to
go with a manufacturer's development module. My (optimistic) requirements
are thus:

1) I need to capture signals of  1MHz or so, so 2+ MSPS, at 16+ bits of
resolution
2) I am not a large corporation, so something that's easily available
3) I am but a poor student, so something &lt; $100

So if any of you have experience with anything that matches the above and
can make a recommendation, please do so. Of course, if you have any boards
laying around that you're not using, I won't say no to that, either.

Thanks,
- Marcel
</description>
    <dc:creator>Marcel Birthelmer</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-11-25T15:53:25</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.microcontrollers.pic/154107">
    <title>[EE] Flukeview 90SW software for Fluke 105 scopemeter</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.microcontrollers.pic/154107</link>
    <description>Hi all,

I have a Fluke 105 scopemeter, yes it is old but for the type of stuff
I use it for it has plenty of oomph.

Unfortunately the Flukeview software that came with it was on floppy
discs and I never bothered to transfer it to CD and the floppies are
no longer readable.

I was wondering if anyone has the flukeview software that they would
be willing to share, I emailed Fluke but I guess unless I show them
some more money they are not going to respond, and I hate to shell out
money for software that I already paid for once...

Thanks
Mike
</description>
    <dc:creator>Mike snyder</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-11-25T12:12:06</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.microcontrollers.pic/154080">
    <title>[EE]:  Measuring absolute deflection</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.microcontrollers.pic/154080</link>
    <description>I want to measure the absolute deflection of a piece of tape 20 inches  
long.
One possibility is to use piezoelectric film.  Is piezo film good only  
for measuring change
of deflection rather than absolute deflection ?
Is there any sensing technology that would measure absolute deflection  
given that I am constrained to a "tape-like" sensor that is 20 inches  
long ?

MA


  WFT Electronics
Denver, CO   720 222 1309
" dent the UNIVERSE "

All ideas, text, drawings and audio , that are originated by WFT  
Electronics ( and it's principals ),  that are included with this  
signature text are to be deemed to be released to the public domain as  
of the date of this communication .

</description>
    <dc:creator>Michael Algernon</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-11-24T23:21:25</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.microcontrollers.pic/154069">
    <title>[OT] Youtube as music player</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.microcontrollers.pic/154069</link>
    <description>Hi all,

I've been using Youtube as a free source of music. Lots of music
companies have posted their music videos legally on Youtube. Of
course, there's a lot of illegal stuff, too, but it seems that the
music companies are interested in putting some videos on Youtube
themselves.

One thing I've been wondering is whether there is a way to play only
the audio from a Youtube video. Since I am just listening to the audio
while working, it is a shame that I have to take up bandwidth by
streaming the video, too.

A quick Google search didn't turn up much.

Thanks,

Sean
</description>
    <dc:creator>Sean Breheny</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-11-24T19:06:58</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.microcontrollers.pic/154019">
    <title>[EE] HSB host mode microcontroller/SPI peripheral</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.microcontrollers.pic/154019</link>
    <description>I'm still (a year later), on the quest for some way to act as a USB Host 
in a low-pin-count device.   What I am looking for is either a SPI (or 
I2C) peripheral or a full blown microcontroller which can interface to 
various USB devices - typically USB HID or serial CDC, but not mass 
storage.   The "other end" of this application will be a multidrop 
serial bus - the serial-port side code currently easily fits in 4Kwords 
in a PIC18f886 - Of course, i'm not sure how much room the USB side needs.

So, essentially I need a microcontroller with USB Host mode, and a 
serial port - or a pair of chips which do the same thing.

I'm looking to keep the costs low.   Plus, I'd love to stay with 
through-hole (dip), but I realize that may not be realistic 
anymore.      My ideal situation would be a 28 Pin PIC18 with USB host 
mode capable of talking to a couple (few) USB endpoints.   But since 
that doesn't exist, I'm looking.

So far, the most "interesting" device is the PIC32 with USB host - if I 
could get them i</description>
    <dc:creator>Forrest W Christian</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-11-24T06:51:27</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.microcontrollers.pic/154011">
    <title>[PIC]  Trouble with ICD2 + adaptor board (AC162050) for Pic12f675</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.microcontrollers.pic/154011</link>
    <description>
Guys :

I have the following message when trying to program a 675 with known working
code. The wdt and cp have been disabled and still this message..

Any ideas... I have been through the help file and there is nothing obvious

..Validating configuration fields
Connecting to debug executive
Entering Debug Mode
...Programming GOTO 0x00 command
ICD0083: Debug:  Unable to enter debug mode.  Please double click this
message for more information.
MPLAB ICD 2 ready for next operation



Thanks Steve


</description>
    <dc:creator>Steve Smith</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-11-24T03:20:22</dc:date>
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