http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.general hourly 1 1901-01-01T00:00+00:00 http://gmane.org/img/gmane-25t.png http://gmane.org http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.general/9771 <pre>** This isn't a rant or a rave** :) We love progress, we love old, we love familiar, we love new. We support Free Software and the accompanying options. It's all about *free* as in liberating. I know several of us have been speaking about why GNOME 2x, which that is fine and all, but really lets be problem solvers not complainers. So!! Why doesn't someone maintain a 2x branch? I'm not volunteering for the job; I got my own time problems. - I could be manipulated into it, but I'm sure there are others better qualified and with more time. It would not be ideal in my opinion; I would rather see the effort spent on 3x. The Kernel does something similar with Greg KH. It would appear that GNOME could support this as long as the maintainers realized what they are signing up for. Again, I don't think it's ideal. I do believe it's better than complaining. I would rather see someone provide solutions for 3x instead. ***** Please do not respond to me, in an effort to point me wrong or right. I'm not taking acti</pre> Jared Jennings 2013-05-18T23:31:15 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.general/9761 <pre>It seems it's a rather common problem that GTK3 themes partly break Gnome3.8 by preventing having a nice desktop background while letting the file manager draw the background: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=162204 https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=161918 I've so far found only two GTK3 themes that work in this respect, the default theme Adwaita that ships with Gnome3.8 and Nokto3.8 (http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=158033). I'm not particularly pleased with the aesthetics of either of them though. What's causing this behaviour in themes? (Hopefully it's easy to fix the broken themes I come across.) What other themes have you found that work properly? /M -- Magnus Therning OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4 email: magnus&lt; at &gt;therning.org jabber: magnus&lt; at &gt;therning.org twitter: magthe http://therning.org/magnus </pre> Magnus Therning 2013-05-16T11:08:53 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.general/9760 <pre>Hello all, (yet another negative feedback, probably among thousands of others on the net, and hence, may not be worth reading by developers, but I still hope my voice gets counted somehow) I wish Gnome3 would use "classic" computer hardware, like keyboard and mouse with 3 buttons (and a wheel) -- *fully* exploiting these classic hardware controls (I won't explain, probably everybody who tried Gnome3, understands what I mean). Probably the target was all those touch-controlled screens, that's fine, but also keep the desktop GUI for classic hardware. I think Gnome2 evolved in a well-usable "classic" desktop GUI. May be upgrade it to use video-effects, rename it.. but really, continue it as a full sub-project. Operating system could then determine user harware and choose the apropriate desktop GUI for his/her hardware. (As to videocard-accelerated effects.. I do welcome them, nice, eye candy, but to me, interested first in getting work done, they are of much less importance) (I tried Gnome 3.4 in new Debia</pre> Alexey Blinov 2013-05-16T10:01:20 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.general/9759 <pre>// English \\ (fuer eine Deutsche Version siehe unten) # FrOSCon 2013 Call for Projects # We would like to invite you to take part in the eights Free and Open Source Software Conference (FrOSCon 2013). FrOSCon is a two-day conference on Free Software and Open Source, which takes place on August 24th/25th, 2013 at the University of Applied Sciences Bonn-Rhein-Sieg, in St. Augustin near Bonn, Germany. Main part of the conference is a comprehensive range of talks and workshops. Furthermore, there is a large exhibition area, where projects have the opportunity to present themselves and get in touch with users and developers. Moreover, we offer a few rooms for Free Software projects to organize developer meetings or to present their own program for the visitors of the conference. We would be pleased if your project would like to contribute to this year's FrOSCon and thus support the communication and exchange within the Open Source and Free Software community. Depending on the kind of your participation, the</pre> Jochim Selzer 2013-05-14T19:16:55 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.general/9752 <pre>I'm not part of the Gnome team, but I think it might be a better idea to create some a daemon which listens for simple push and then uses dbus to communicate the notification. Back of the napkin math looks thusly: App is installed: App sends a message to dbus telling the daemon to Register with a PushServer Daemon receives an Endpoint from the Push server and sends a message via dbus App receives an Endpoint from dbus and sends this to the App Server Message is Received: Daemon receives the message and extracts the UAID Daemon sends the message on dbus DBus routes the message to the app based on the UAIDof the message App is uninstalled: App sends a notification to dbus. Dbus routes the message to the daemon Daemon unregisters the app App is garbage collected: It would be reasonable for the SimplePush daemon to periodically review which apps have consumed push messages and unregister applications which haven't been used in a while. Of course I am not a dbus guy either so my thought experiment cou</pre> Summers Pittman 2013-05-12T14:38:59 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.general/9751 <pre>_______________________________________________ gnome-list mailing list gnome-list&lt; at &gt;gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list </pre> Mark James 2013-05-03T01:29:38 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.general/9750 <pre>A little while ago I found a theme for gnome-shell that I'm *very* happy with. The changes that came with Gnome 3.8 has made it partly unusable (the changes in search layout especially) and unfortunately the developer of the theme has switched away from using Gnome. So I'm left with the options to either find another theme, or fix this one myself. I thought I'd have a stab at the latter. To help I've been looking for some kind of themeing reference, something that ideally lists the objects that make up the different views of gnome-shell and their attributes. I haven't found such a thing, does one even exist? I suspect the Looking Glass picker could be used, at least to pick out the types of different object and thereby finding their attributes. Is that how people go about inspecting gnome-shell in order to write themes, or is there a better way? /M </pre> Magnus Therning 2013-05-01T06:44:51 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.general/9749 <pre>I noticed since upgrading to gnome 3.8 that gnome-session listens on a random tcp port. Why is this neccessary and is it possible to disable it? _______________________________________________ gnome-list mailing list gnome-list&lt; at &gt;gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list </pre> John G. 2013-04-18T23:07:09 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.general/9747 <pre>Hi list, this is my first message on the list. I have a doubt about the name GNOME, I know that is a acronym GNU Network Object Model Environment, because I am reading the Ubik book by Philip Dick, and in him names the word gnome in the chapter 10, relative a the rotary motor (Wankel's motor), may be that not have nothing that see, but somebody know some to respect? Regards, -- Darío Por favor, no utilice formatos de archivo propietarios para el intercambio de documentos, como ser DOC, XLS, BMP, PPT, RAR, MP3, MOV, WMV, etc. sino ODT, ODS, DJVU, PDF, TXT, PNG, FLAC, OGV, GZ o cualquier otro que no obligue a utilizar un programa de un fabricante concreto. Info: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.es.html http://www.vaslibre.org.ve/publicaciones/odfvsooxml-es.pdf </pre> Darío 2013-04-17T10:43:55 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.general/9746 <pre>Hello, openSUSE v12.3 linux v3.7.10-1.1-desktop x86_64 gnome 3.6.2 Ever since gnome version 3.2 the mouse movement becomes more uneven as the logon time increases. Initially the movement is smooth and even as expected. As the session time increases to 2+ days the movement shows regular pauses (every 1 - 2 seconds) for some fraction of a second, then "catches up" to where it would have been had it not paused. As the session time increases, so does the jerkiness, i.e., the pauses increase in length. This is annoying. Especially since the problem has worsened with later versions; the jerkiness increases after only a couple of hours. It has gotten so bad that I have gone to KDE where there is no such issue. It is related somehow to the build up of CPU usage on an AMD athlon quad processor. Initially the idle time usage is about 4%. As time goes by the idle usage increases to about 15% where the mouse action is so uneven that it is no longer tolerable. It occurs for two different mic</pre> James Moe 2013-04-14T23:19:16 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.general/9732 <pre> I have asked the KolibriOS team to insert accessibility features to the free and open source OS Kolibri. They have responded well, but need technical help as they state below. Hello! Thank you for your reply. We are very interested in implementing of Accessibility standards, but we don't sure what exactly do we need to implement. As for now, we have only Magnify (not very useful though) and Speak engine (not very good though). Do we need add something else? Do we need some text-to-speech interface for software? May be something else? We are really want to help, I think it's possible to create even brand new branch (we already have few, why not?) with suitable desktop environment and programs. What do you say? Please help to make this new ausum free and open source OS accessible for all, by providing nolige or adapting your software to be compatible with Kolibri. Find out more at www.kolibrios.org Love Tasa _________________________________</pre> Net 2013-04-02T23:53:49 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.general/9724 <pre>Yeah, maybe this is another e-mail of an user who wants to add his very own functionalities. Or maybe not. So let's see. I am going to explain why each of these points is good for the majority: - Close button should be more accesible. I don't know where you could place it. Figure it out. Maybe next to the icon. Maybe a double click over the application's title (I like this one). But you shouldn't make people to click, look for "Exit", click again and repeat this whole proccess to close several windows. - The message tray. Is anoying that if you accidentaly move your mouse down too much, it brakes completely your workflow. Really. Why? I've noticed that in Gnome 3.7 now you have to "push it down". But it still happens in some situations. A hot corner would fix this. - A dock (or something). Most used applications should be accesible from the desktop. I like minimalism. But not this way. It has to be functional. A smart dock which add most used apps would be very interesting. - Application settings should </pre> Les Paul 2013-03-29T03:37:38 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.general/9717 <pre>So now that GNOME 3.8 has "Classic Mode"[1] I'll see how loud my notebook's fan gets, since from the picture it seems that it uses 3D acceleration. 3D acceleration was always something which gets my (and my friends') notebook fan very loud and decreases battery time. 3D for desktop, at least for older notebooks, is unnecessary (I don't know if [1] https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.8/ </pre> . 2013-03-27T20:22:44 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.general/9714 <pre>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello, openSUSE v12.3 Gnome desktop v3.6.2 Overall it seems like the fit and finish is a lot smoother. I like it. I am posting about a nit: The desktop icons now have a thick white border around them. Is there a way to remove the border? - -- James Moe moe dot james at sohnen-moe dot com 520.743.3936 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlFQ4VAACgkQzTcr8Prq0ZOycgCgorRaUnAklJOljNYrbznFiqxC 0fkAoLAKoknUJuCMODyvyRFLf3yjc67k =Byhe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- </pre> James Moe 2013-03-25T23:44:16 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.general/9713 <pre>I'm cross-posting this, as this seems to be a more active list, and hopefully it will find it's way to the right people. On Sat, 2013-03-16 at 05:53 +0100, Stef Walter wrote: On 03/15/2013 11:33 PM, fox_rplvhh wrote: I've done what I can with simple plugins and hacks, which I've documented on my blog. I've just written a new blog post analysing what's wrong with my implementation, and proposing how it should be integrated into the desktop properly. http://blog.sambull.org/security-design Thanks, Sam Bull _______________________________________________ gnome-list mailing list gnome-list&lt; at &gt;gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list </pre> Sam Bull 2013-03-16T17:00:05 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.general/9711 <pre>One thing that bothers me with GNOME's current screenshot-taking behaviour is that the screenshots default to being stored in just the Pictures folder. It can result in a real mess. Many other applications, including Cheese and Shotwell, place images they create in specifically named folders like Pictures/Photos and Pictures/Webcam. Meanwhile, Background Settings finds pictures in just the Pictures folder, so with the current arrangement someone who takes a lot of screenshots can end up a big list of screenshots in the Pictures tab instead of something useful. My suggestion is that gnome-screenshot should default to Pictures/Screenshots for its auto-save directory, and a similar action be taken in the future for applications that automatically add files to user-visible folders. I realize this could use a bit more discussion than just a bug report, so here I am :) Dylan </pre> Dylan McCall 2013-03-09T23:17:27 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.general/9708 <pre>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 opensuse v12.2 linux v3.4.28-2.20-desktop x86_64 gnome 3.4.2 nvidia gt 470, nouveau driver A little black box appears on the display screen; it shows on all desktops. It is about 4px x 8px. It shows at different places on the screen after logging in. Sometimes it is in a location that is not noticeable; other times it is in the center area. It sometimes disappears, then reappears. Has any one else seen this? Is there a cure? - -- James Moe moe dot james at sohnen-moe dot com 520.743.3936 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlEtCdAACgkQzTcr8Prq0ZP8qwCgtlTKO4szF5MO+g067OXBBAdi qk0AoJhreCer9u9U83CbX0UeTGuANIkQ =b39x -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- </pre> James Moe 2013-02-26T19:15:28 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.general/9671 <pre>This guy is an example of someone who should shut up, listen to his users, and never ever try championing his cause until he decides to get off his ego. There are a myriad of user comments ever since Gnome 3 came out, and even during its alpha/beta phases. Hell, I myself also had concerns during the beta, but I liked the original ideas. But then Gnome developers started removing feature after feature. Instead, he dismisses all the comments/feedback by saying that "these people just like to hate the world", and then picks on individuals in the audience very sneakily by trying to guide them to liking Gnome 3 by default, and making them laugh. Gnome 3 is not the best desktop, and it is not the worst desktop. What it is, is a desktop and group of people that refuse to see potential improvements to a product that could blow everything else out of the water. Instead, they focused from he start to the tablet fad, and now that the desktop is not dead, they shot themselves in the foot. They constantly remove featur</pre> Harry Kashouli 2013-02-16T07:43:31 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.general/9670 <pre> I have been working with some old hardware (no CD rom unless I pull the machine apart (20 screws)) and temporarily add one in. I have set up a grub floppy and successfully installed an old version of Fedora. The relevant section of my current dhcpd.conf file looks like this: ------------------------------------------------------------ subnet 192.168.67.128 netmask 255.255.255.128 { option routers 192.168.67.254; option subnet-mask 255.255.255.128; option ntp-servers 192.168.66.130; range dynamic-bootp 192.168.67.235 192.168.67.250; default-lease-time 172800; max-lease-time 345600; option domain-name-servers 192.168.67.134, 192.168.64.1; authoritative; class "pxeclients" { match if substring (option vendor-class-identifier, 0, 9) = "PXEClient"; next-server 192.168.67.200; filename "fc6/vmlinuz"; } } ------------------------------------------------------------- I can load a system with fc6 just</pre> Styma, Robert E (Robert 2013-02-11T13:46:12 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.general/9667 <pre>When I upgraded from Fedora 17 to Fedora 18, scrollbars for me became almost unusable. The GTK Theme that GNOME by default installs omits the scrollbar-end arrowheads. and alters how the screen behaves when the user clicks in the scrollbar but outside of the slider. I'm used to using a GUI (i.e., the scrollbar) to vertically move my view, whenever the amount of data exceeds window-height. Not having arrowheads on the scrollbar means I can no longer use a 'click' (in the arrowhead) to consistently move the view by just a "line" amount. Much worse is the new default behavior when the user clicks in the non-slider portion of the scrollbar -- the view moves to the (proportional?) position within the data that corresponds to the position of the click within the scrollbar. I could always achieve that effect by __dragging__ the slider to that position within the scrollbar. PLEASE don't subvert __clicking__ so as to produce that same effect. What I (and I expect other users as well) used a 'clic</pre> Mikus Grinbergs 2013-02-07T13:42:24 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.general/9666 <pre>Hello, There maybe has the sockets or its peripheral problems in gnome2? http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=36198 If you have any questions about this problem, do not hesitate to ask me. Would someone help this issue to be solved? Fumiaki Sakamoto Mail-to: ua6ta6&lt; at &gt;bma.biglobe.ne.jp </pre> Fumiaki Sakamoto 2013-01-08T21:30:39 Search the mailing list at Gmane query http://search.gmane.org/?group=$group=gmane.comp.gnome.general