http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.design hourly 1 1901-01-01T00:00+00:00 http://gmane.org/img/gmane-25t.png http://gmane.org http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.design/5934 <pre>Hi everyone, Anyone want to take care of our Facebook page? If not, does anyone mind if I get rid of it? The page only has 77 likes, which is a far cry from the 2157 +1's we get on Google+. Given this number, I'd rather focus on our Google+ and Diaspora pages, which are more in line with our freedom philosophy (Diaspora much more than Google+, of course). </pre> Mirek M. 2013-06-18T12:22:20 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.design/5925 <pre>Hi all, you might know, there is a QA contest for 4.1 coming up. To promote the contest, it'd be great to have a banner to advertise it. All the details on the contest are/should be here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Projects/Bug_Triage_Contest There's a proposal for the banner text from Joel: "LibreOffice invites you to participate in our 4.1 RC Bug Confirmation (triage) Contest taking place from June 20th - July 5th - For Details: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Projects/Bug_Triage_Contest" But I don't think this is set in stone, if something shorter works, I guess that's fine. It might also be a good idea to mention you can win shirts. The preferred file format, as always is SVG, so we can export it to PNG. It would be best to have two banner sizes: * one for the LibreOffice main page, in the top (400*58px) * one for the LibreOffice pre-releases (890px*70px – feel free to tweak the height of this one) (I've also thought about if we can maybe use HTML + CSS + web fonts, t</pre> Stefan Knorr 2013-06-15T15:54:10 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.design/5921 <pre>Hi, I have been an irregular user of LibreOffice since the old staroffice days, but also a LaTeX user for longer texts. I would like to share some ideas on realistic improvements for people who want to use styles exclusively. My main gripe with the current GUI is that everything encourages ad-hoc formatting instead of reusing styling. I feel that the use of style should not require using the crowded style dialogs more than ad-hoc formatting. To address this, I propose two main changes: a "style toolbar" to replace the formatting toolbar, and a redesign of the stylist to let us edit common properties from the stylist directly (along with some other changes). Some of the proposed things may not be easy to implement now, but I feel that a partial implementation would not be problematic and would greatly improve my workflow in LibreOffice. I'm also a newcomer to this mailing list or to design work, thus let me know if I'm doing this wrong! Should I open an enhancement request instead of (or in addition to) us</pre> Aurélien Naldi 2013-06-14T07:56:32 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.design/5919 <pre>Hi all, the next IRC meeting is tentatively scheduled for Saturday, 1600 UTC, as used to be the case in the /old days/. Should no one show up, we can reschedule and hold it on Sunday again, as we did the past weeks. Also, I got some messages regarding the last chat log. It's up now. :) https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Meetings Astron. </pre> Stefan Knorr 2013-06-12T21:41:24 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.design/5915 <pre>Hello everyone, I've submitted a template for a suggested default style to replace the current one. Please download it and tell me your thoughts/opinions. https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/d/da/Serif_template.ott Regards, Ahmad Harthi Warning: This message and its attachment, if any, are confidential and may contain information protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately and delete the message and its attachment, if any. You should not copy the message and its attachment, if any, or disclose its contents to any other person or use it for any purpose. Statements and opinions expressed in this e-mail and its attachment, if any, are those of the sender, and do not necessarily reflect those of King Abdulaziz city for Science and Technology (KACST) in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. KACST accepts no liability for any damage caused by this email. تحذير: هذه الرسالة وما تحويه من مرفقات (إن وجدت) تمثل</pre> Ahmad Hussein Al-Harthi 2013-06-12T08:05:35 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.design/5911 <pre>Hi guys, Unfortunately, it seems like, again, I won't be able to attend tomorrow but will be able to on Sunday. Same thing next week. Would it be okay to move these two chats to Sunday, 16:00 UTC? If you plan on attending, please reply if you can make it on Sunday or if Saturday's the only option for you. Thanks. </pre> Mirek M. 2013-06-07T20:43:40 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.design/5906 <pre>Hi all, Does the Design team have cycles to draft a Hackfest flyer by Monday latest? _Anything_ is better that nothing, Eike and me try to get them distributed on the local University campus. Note that having this is a good thing in general: Once we have one, we can reuse it for later Hackfests and Sprints. If there is no reply, I will try to make up something myself. To clarify: That is a threat, not an offer. ;) Best, Bjoern </pre> Bjoern Michaelsen 2013-06-06T14:48:40 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.design/5900 <pre>Hello there, I'm thinking that showing some tag on planet.documentfoundation.org to distinguish GSoC students would be nice. Gnome is already doing that for their Women Outreach Program and GSoC students. Could you come up with some nice idea to show the world the good things they are blogging? A nice logo may be cool, but you may have better ideas. Thanks in advance, -- Cedric </pre> Cedric Bosdonnat 2013-06-05T08:23:30 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.design/5897 <pre>Hi all, in the last ESC meeting we decided to go ahead with a logo that certified LO developers (see &lt;http://www.documentfoundation.org/certification/developers/&gt;) can use "for advertising." It would be great if somebody could come up with a design for that. It should be suitable for inclusion on web pages, and it should mention "LibreOffice Certified Developer" and "The Document Foundation." Thanks, Stephan </pre> Stephan Bergmann 2013-06-03T14:45:25 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.design/5895 <pre>Hi guys, I can't make it to the IRC chat today, so I'm wondering whether we could move it to tomorrow, June 2, 16:00 UTC. Would that be alright with you? Please respond ASAP. </pre> Mirek M. 2013-06-01T08:24:14 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.design/5894 <pre>I was just up on our design Facebook site. There has not been a post since 28 Jan. Could someone on the design team post some kind of update, perhaps, what the design team is working on now or a plea for more design people to join to help out ... I think what people have/are working on would be really cool. The last post in Jan. makes the site sound a little negative, so a new upbeat post would maybe attract more viewers and maybe encourage some designers to join the contributor list. Cheers, Marc </pre> Marc Paré 2013-05-31T15:21:32 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.design/5890 <pre>Hi. In LibreOffice, there are different icons used for the same action: change the zoom level of a document so that it fits in window. This is called "Zoom Optimal", "Adjust" and "Fit in Window" (for the same thing). I want to remove those icons except one. What is the best icon to use for this action? Tango theme: http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/icon-themes/tango/cmd/lc_adjust.png http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/icon-themes/tango/cmd/lc_zoomoptimal.png Oxygen: http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/icon-themes/oxygen/cmd/lc_adjust.png http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/icon-themes/oxygen/cmd/lc_zoomoptimal.png Industrial: http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/icon-themes/industrial/cmd/lc_adjust.png http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/icon-themes/industrial/cmd/lc_zoomoptimal.png Galaxy: http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/icon-themes/galaxy/cmd/lc_adjust.png http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/icon-themes/galaxy/cmd/lc_zoomoptimal.png and so on. R</pre> Rodolfo 2013-05-31T11:27:52 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.design/5889 <pre>Hi, The default toolbar after installation has the Tango icons. Looking at those, some come out a bit bold/dark compared to the rest: - print directly - page preview - text ABC in Spelling and Grammar - text ABC in Autospellcheck - black in format paint brush Comparing with to all the other icons, I think they could benefit from a bit more grey in stead of black. That would give a more harmonious view. Anyway, that is my opinion. Ideas? Anyone good in making icons? (Not me, sorry) Cheers, Cor </pre> Cor Nouws 2013-05-30T09:31:17 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.design/5879 <pre>Hi Charles, I changed the subject, I hope this is ok. Also, wich mailing list is the proper for this topic? Both? 2013/5/25 Charles-H. Schulz &lt;charles.schulz&lt; at &gt;documentfoundation.org&gt; Sure! Use-cases videos are very interesting. They would work as promotion as well as teaching users features they may not know, or they don't know how usefull they are. (surprisingly many of them, even the simpler as the styles menu). My proposal is a series of motion-graphics videos, made with Blender3D software, in wich the LibreOffice interface is animated as in a screencast. A voice over could explain the steps for some basic taks (formatting text, creating a presentation, etc) and maybe some advanced ones. There's a great example on Gnome3 videos, made by Jakub Steiner. He also did tutorials with them on motion graphics with Blender: http://goo.gl/pZa0Z Proposed pipeline: 1. Script (including voice-over if any) 2. Storyboard 3. Gather official images of the interface elements and menus. Vectorial files? Or just screensh</pre> Pablo López Soriano 2013-05-26T02:11:10 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.design/5877 <pre>Hi there! I met Mirek in LibreGraphicsMeeting 2013 and talked about how few committed UX designers LibreOffice has, that shocked me. I'm not interface designer but I could make a promotional video with motion graphics (like Jakub Steiner did on Gnome3 promos), in order to gather developers and users. But first, there are some questions. Does LibreOffice need a radical change at all to *differenciate* itself from Microsoft's Office, being not only the free alternative, but the standard office suite? If so, does LibreOffice need promotion in order to grow the developer team and make this change? A promotional video would say something like "Libre Office is The Standard, used by many millions of users, and yet it has a small developer team wich need you involved". Otherwise, if this radical change is going to happen without need of a promotion, the video could be launched afterwards, announcing the brand-new LibreOffice and its will to become The Standard. I've beek lurking the mailing lists and you can sm</pre> Pablo López Soriano 2013-05-25T11:40:21 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.design/5871 <pre>Hi all, would it be good for TDF Members to have a badge they can display on their home pages? [1] And could there be some other badges to display the contributions and so the meritocraty? As it is a strategy to give all contributors an appreciation such badges could be part of it. I started a whiteboard and a first proposal for this. After collecting proposals I will start a discussion about the usage of the badges on projects ml. [1] http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/msg12492.html </pre> klaus-jürgen weghorn ol 2013-05-24T15:18:00 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.design/5869 <pre>Below i have attached an image regarding a new UI with faenza icons pls also support the older interface (have an option to change it) Many people like the older one but i think this is more accesible [image: Inline image 1] discussion https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=64184 </pre> Megh Parikh 2013-05-23T16:39:54 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.design/5864 <pre>I installed LibreOffice Version 4.0.2.2 (Build ID: 4c82dcdd6efcd48b1d8bba66bfe1989deee49c3) direct from http://www.libreoffice.org/download/ on Lubuntu 13.04. There are several LibreOffice svg files installed in /usr/share/icons/gnome/scalable/apps. While the pre-existing svg files are mostly symbolic and &lt; 10 kB, the LibreOffice ones are excessively large: most of the are &gt; 100 kB and the one for Calc is 1.3 MB. Why are these files so large? Why are they where they are? What is their function? Even their dimensions are different from the other files in that folder: the others are 16x16 px. These are much, much larger. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Size-of-LibreOffice-svg-files-tp4057288.html Sent from the Design mailing list archive at Nabble.com. </pre> chimak111 2013-05-22T10:41:47 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.design/5853 <pre>In our "General Information" brochure[1], we (the marketing team) break some sections of text with a line that is made up of " ≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈≈ " (tilde's). However, when we go to print, some printers interpret this line as a group of tilde's separated by micro-blank-space between each tilde OR other printers interpret this line as a group of tilde's but grouped together as one wavy line. We should really be using a nice graphic to separate these sections. Would anyone on the design team have a good graphic that we could use instead of this line? We could then use the same graphic in all of our brochure-types that we are planning to write up. The marketing team would really appreciate it if you could take a look at the brochure and see if you would have any suggestion(s) for a graphic replacement. Cheers, Marc [1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibreOfficeV.4.0.x-OfficialBrochure-GeneralInformation-USLtr.odt </pre> Marc Paré 2013-05-19T11:12:00 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.design/5843 <pre>As is the tradition, there will be an IRC chat today on freenode on the libreoffice-design channel at 16:00 UTC. [1] [1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Meetings </pre> Mirek M. 2013-05-11T08:54:49 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.design/5830 <pre>This is a note to all of the regular contributors to this list. I was wondering if we could just do a quick defining of the "Design" list and its purposes. The reason I ask this is that I find that often people will post more UX related questions that would be better debated on that list. I see the "Design" list as really being a list where LibreOfice design members are asked questions or asked to help out with designing icons, logo design, VI requests, designing of any parts of the LibreOffice suite elements ... essentially all that pertains to designing objects using a paint/vector programme. This would also include discussions re: needs of the marketing people. The UX-design list, I see more a list where the discussion of extending or modifying the actual look and feel of LibreOffice and not the actual re-drawing or drawing of new elements using a paintingg/vector programme. The list is more concerned with discussions and examples of these new modification to the programme which would lead </pre> Marc Paré 2013-05-08T15:42:10 Search the mailing list at Gmane query http://search.gmane.org/?group=$group=gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.design