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  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.netbsd.general/24908">
    <title>wi and WPA-PSK</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.netbsd.general/24908</link>
    <description>I flashed a Netgear MA401 Wireless NIC so that I cold use it
via my WPA-PSK wireless router on a Windows box. It has been
working there nicely for a few months now.

I want to use it on my NetBSD box also. From dmesg:
wi0 at pcmcia0 function 0: &lt;NETGEAR MA401RA Wireless PC, Card, ISL37300P, Eval-R
evA&gt;
wi0: 802.11 address 00:09:5b:23:3c:0e
wi0: using RF:PRISM2.5 MAC:ISL3873B(PCMCIA)
wi0: Intersil Firmware: Primary (1.1.1), Station (1.7.4)
wi0: 11b rates: 1Mbps 2Mbps 5.5Mbps 11Mbps

That looks good to me.

from ifconfig:
wi0: flags=8863&lt;UP,BROADCAST,NOTRAILERS,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST&gt; mtu 1500
        ssid utopia nwkey *****
        powersave off
        bssid 00:1e:e5:6f:ad:4d chan 1
        address: 00:09:5b:23:3c:0e
        media: IEEE802.11 autoselect (DS2)
        status: active
        inet 0.0.0.0 netmask 0xff000000 broadcast 255.255.255.255
        inet6 fe80::209:5bff:fe23:3c0e%wi0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3

Doesn't "nwkey" mean its trying to use WEP?

It looks like WPA is not supported by the NetBSD wi driver.

Am I correct? If I am correct, is there any chance WPA will be implemented
for wi in NetBSD 5.0?

Vlad
</description>
    <dc:creator>Vlad Markov</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-11-29T04:15:06</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.netbsd.general/24907">
    <title>netbsd 5 &amp; lii0</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.netbsd.general/24907</link>
    <description>
is there an irq conflict when using the lii0 interface on the eee 900 16g in
netbsd 5.0? ifconfig shows the interface as being up but with the media
showing "none" and the status showing "no carrier". networking is configured
properly using dhcp. i can not initialize the interface. shouldn't it at
least show a carrier? the cabling, interface, and router are all functional
when using freebsd, openbsd and netbsd 4.0.1 on this eee 900 16g. thank you
for any help you can offer.
</description>
    <dc:creator>jimerickso</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-11-29T00:54:33</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.netbsd.general/24906">
    <title>build netbsd5 fail</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.netbsd.general/24906</link>
    <description>
I checkout the latest src tonight and build distribution

# link rump_cd9660/rump_cd9660
/usr/world/386t5/bin/i386--netbsdelf-gcc
-B/usr/world/386o5/destdir.i386/usr/lib
-B/usr/world/386o5/destdir.i386/usr/lib/ -Wl,-nostdlib -Wl,--wrap=malloc
-Wl,--fatal-warnings -o rump_cd9660 mount_cd9660.o rump_cd9660.o
pathadj.o fattr.o -lrumpfs_cd9660 -lp2k -lukfs -lrump -lrumpuser -lpuffs
-lutil -lpthread -L/usr/world/386o5/destdir.i386/usr/lib
--Wl,-rpath-link,/usr/world/386o5/destdir.i386/lib
-L/usr/world/386o5/destdir.i386/lib
-Wl,-rpath-link,/usr/world/386o5/destdir.i386/usr/lib
-L/usr/world/386o5/destdir.i386/usr/lib
/usr/world/386t5/lib/gcc/i386--netbsdelf/4.1.3/../../../../i386--netbsdelf/bin/ld:
cannot find -lrumpfs_cd9660
*** Failed target: rump_cd9660



</description>
    <dc:creator>Water NB</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-11-28T17:48:03</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.netbsd.general/24897">
    <title>Mozilla Sunbird and TCL-Plugin 3.0</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.netbsd.general/24897</link>
    <description>Hello,

please let me ask a question. I'm interested in the following programs:

Mozilla Sunbird in an newer version with german language support and
TCL/TK Plugin 3.0 .

Is there anyone who can tell me, if is there any work on these programs
in the pkgsrc tree?

Any comments are very welcome!

Thank you.

Volker

</description>
    <dc:creator>Volker Wolfram</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-11-24T15:10:58</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.netbsd.general/24896">
    <title>NetBSD 4.0.1</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.netbsd.general/24896</link>
    <description>
Is it possible to upgrade from 3.1 to 4.0.1 without sendmail getting
deleted?


</description>
    <dc:creator>Rick Kelly</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-11-24T15:21:09</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.netbsd.general/24888">
    <title>firefox on netbsd 3.1</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.netbsd.general/24888</link>
    <description>
Has anyone built firefox 3.04 or 2.18 on NetBSD 3.1 i386?

Mozilla has stopped working with /. and a few other sites.


</description>
    <dc:creator>Rick Kelly</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-11-24T02:21:03</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.netbsd.general/24887">
    <title>Network interface locked up under 5.0_BETA</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.netbsd.general/24887</link>
    <description>
Hello,

the ethernet interface of my NetBSD/amd64 5.0_BETA server locked up after
a few hours of uptime. The machine was no longer reachable via network
and I had to login on the console. Pinging another machine failed with
"no buffer space available". But "sysctl" reported that ony about 1100
of 4096 mbuf-s were in use. I had to "ifconfig bge0 down" followed by
"ifconfig bge0 up" to get the network working again.

Has anybody else seen something similar?

Kind regards

</description>
    <dc:creator>Matthias Scheler</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-11-23T23:13:24</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.netbsd.general/24882">
    <title>listing available 802.11 networks</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.netbsd.general/24882</link>
    <description>What is the preferred way to list available 802.11 networks?
Sometimes, I can use 'ifconfig wpi0 list scan'; however, even when it
works it seems to drop my association with an AP.  Other systems seem
to be able to display a list of available networks while associating
with one particular one; can NetBSD?


--Steve Bellovin, http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb

</description>
    <dc:creator>Steven M. Bellovin</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-11-21T16:40:56</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.netbsd.general/24868">
    <title>Webcams</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.netbsd.general/24868</link>
    <description>
Hello,

    What "webcams" are NetBSD people using these days? Are there USB 2
or FireWire cameras that work well with NetBSD?

- Andy Ball.


</description>
    <dc:creator>Andrew Ball</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-11-20T14:51:09</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.netbsd.general/24866">
    <title>building new version of config</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.netbsd.general/24866</link>
    <description>I have installed NetBSD 4.0.1 on a X86 box. I tired to build a 5.0
kernel source inside the box . But when i run config i get the
following error

# config GENERIC
../../../../conf/files:5: your sources require a newer version of
config(1) -- please rebuild it.
../../../../ipkdb/files.ipkdb:5: syntax error
../../../../dev/raidframe/files.raidframe:6: syntax error
../../../../conf/files:1194: syntax error
../../../../conf/files:1198: syntax error
../../../../conf/files:1223: syntax error
../../../../conf/files:1225: syntax error
../../../../dev/pad/files.pad:3: syntax error
*** Stop.



I downloaded the new  config.tar.gz from
/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-5_BETA/tar_files/src/

But when I try to make source of config.tar.gz, it complained:

mkheaders.c:58:24: error:  crc_extern.h: No such file or directory.

I am tring to update kernel with current source, so I real need the
newer config.

</description>
    <dc:creator>rvargh jo</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-11-20T10:31:21</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.netbsd.general/24863">
    <title>tooling around with the kernel source, had a question about cvs</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.netbsd.general/24863</link>
    <description>What is the cvs command to take a diff of any given change and the
original source?

</description>
    <dc:creator>Michael Litchard</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-11-19T21:47:20</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.netbsd.general/24860">
    <title>Format/Partition new disk (i386/4.0.1)</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.netbsd.general/24860</link>
    <description>For some reason I can not get this new disk to format/partition
correctly, at least it doesn't _look_ correct. I ran fdisk -u then
disklabel. What bothers me is why are the fsize, bsize and cpg/sgs all
zero's? That can not be correct.

Also, does anyone have a simple example on how to format, label and
'newfs' a complete IDE drive? I rarely have to setup a new disk but
when I do it is always an issue for me, I just don't get it I guess. I
have read the Guide many times over and still get confused every time
I read it.

thanks for any and all help
==================================================
# fdisk wd1
Disk: /dev/rwd1d
NetBSD disklabel disk geometry:
cylinders: 969021, heads: 16, sectors/track: 63 (1008 sectors/cylinder)
total sectors: 976773168

BIOS disk geometry:
cylinders: 1023, heads: 255, sectors/track: 63 (16065 sectors/cylinder)
total sectors: 976773168

Partition table:
0: NetBSD (sysid 169)
    start 63, size 976773105 (476940 MB, Cyls 0-60801/80/63)
        PBR is not bootable: All bytes are identical (0x00)
1: &lt;UNUSED&gt;
2: &lt;UNUSED&gt;
3: &lt;UNUSED&gt;
Drive serial number: 129 (0x00000081)


# disklabel wd1
# /dev/rwd1d:
type: ESDI
disk: WDC WD5001ABYS-1
label: fictitious
flags:
bytes/sector: 512
sectors/track: 63
tracks/cylinder: 16
sectors/cylinder: 1008
cylinders: 969021
total sectors: 976773168
rpm: 3600
interleave: 1
trackskew: 0
cylinderskew: 0
headswitch: 0           # microseconds
track-to-track seek: 0  # microseconds
drivedata: 0

4 partitions:
#        size    offset     fstype [fsize bsize cpg/sgs]
 a: 976773105        63     4.2BSD      0     0     0  # (Cyl.      0*- 969020)
 c: 976773105        63     unused      0     0        # (Cyl.      0*- 969020)
 d: 976773168         0     unused      0     0        # (Cyl.      0 - 969020)


wd1 at atabus1 drive 1: &lt;WDC WD5001ABYS-18YNA0&gt;
wd1: drive supports 16-sector PIO transfers, LBA48 addressing
wd1: 465 GB, 969021 cyl, 16 head, 63 sec, 512 bytes/sect x 976773168 sectors
wd1: 32-bit data port
wd1: drive supports PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2, Ultra-DMA mode 6 (Ultra/133)

</description>
    <dc:creator>Mark Thomas</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-11-18T23:24:43</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.netbsd.general/24859">
    <title>tuning squid (maybe off topic)</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.netbsd.general/24859</link>
    <description>Hi,

This may be a little bit off topic for this list, but I figure someone on 
here would know. I installed squid on my servers (running NetBSD 4). Right 
now, I am using it as a web accelerator. It seems to work pretty well, 
although a little bit overloaded. I found some performance tuning how to 
on the web that made a difference, but I was wondering if anyone had any 
suggestions? Also, I was wondering if squid was built without arp-acl aufs 
carp coss diskd icmp ipf-transparent pam-helper pf-transparent snmp ssl 
unlinkd, if that could help and if someone could give me some insight on 
what they do?

Also, I noticed that squid seems to be compiled to use 8192 file 
descriptors. This doesn't make sense to me, because that is all the file 
descriptors that are set on the server. Is there a way to change this 
value?

Best Regards,
Al

</description>
    <dc:creator>Al - Image Hosting Services</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-11-18T21:32:10</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.netbsd.general/24856">
    <title>2 different flash plugin for firefox</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.netbsd.general/24856</link>
    <description>
Hello!

I would like to enable gnash plugin as default, while enable Adobe flash 
plugin for certain users's firefox brpwsers... If someone has advise how 
to do this, i appreciate.

I'm using NetBSD-current / amd64.

Regards,
Cem

</description>
    <dc:creator>Cem Kayali</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-11-18T19:01:25</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.netbsd.general/24845">
    <title>gcc predefined labels</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.netbsd.general/24845</link>
    <description>Does the gcc compiler predefine a label like __netbsd__ to let you know
what system you're running on?

How do you list the predefined labels?

David
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</description>
    <dc:creator>David Dudley</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-11-17T22:43:28</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.netbsd.general/24836">
    <title>Please help - dialin-server?</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.netbsd.general/24836</link>
    <description>Dear NetBSD-users,

I would like to configure a dial-in server, and I would like to know
1. what exactly are the configuration files and
2. what exactly should be in there.

I want to remotely control my computer without ethernet.

Please no RTFM-responses, I have read enough FM in the last three
weeks, and I just had no success. I would not ask you if I thought it
is something easy to figure out for me.

I must admit, I tried it out on Xubuntu 8.04, NOT on NetBSD. But in
fact, I want that finally it works on NetBSD. I thought Xubuntu
should be easier, however, far from it - I had no success.

What I want and what I did:

I want to be able to dial in to my NetBSD machine and control it
through my Xubuntu or Windows machine. For the sake of simplicity,
let us assume the user is "person" and password is "mypass" on
both machines.

For the connection, two cellphones are used (Sony Ericsson D750i and
W200i). In Linux on connection ach one appears as the devices
/dev/ttyACM0 and /dev/ttyACM1.  On NetBSD, they are recognised on
connection as ucom0 and ucom1 as well as umodem0 and umodem1.

I tried dialling out to my university (which runs AIX) with each of them,
and it works, both in Linux and in Windows. Moreover, I tried dialling
from Windows to Linux, on Linux Minicom was running and could
automatically take the call when told ATS0=1. ATA worked fine, too.

So, what do I write in which file? - At this stage, I do not want
routing or anything complicated, I just want a connection between
computer A dialling to computer B, there are on no other networks.
B takes the call automatically, A then gets to login prompt and shell.
A is running Windows, Linux or FreeBSD, B is running NetBSD.
What do I have to do? - I want to first ask you, instead of first
messing up my configuration files until nothing is recognisable (as
I already did on Xubuntu).

Thank you in advance for your kind help with this, I very much
appreciate it. And yes, I DO know that chapter 23.3. of the NetBSD
guide touches the topic.

Kind regards,

Nino
</description>
    <dc:creator>Nino on NetBSD 4.0</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-11-16T19:26:46</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.netbsd.general/24834">
    <title>csup and softdeps</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.netbsd.general/24834</link>
    <description>Hello all you out there!

Today I tried something rather unorthodox (for NetBSD anyway):
I wanted to update a 4.0 to current using csup (as apposed to the usual
cvs). Under NetBSD this seams to be a rather unusual method (Is there
some reason for this?) but under FreeBSD it is the method of choice.
Since I came from FreeBSD, I'm kinda used to the way cvsup (later csup)
works.

To speed up the whole thing I mounted /usr with softdeps. That however
broke (and I have no clue how) csups download. I kept getting protocol
errors, no matter what user I tried on the system or what server I used
to dl from (I tried cvsup.se.netbsd.org and cvsup.uk.netbsd.org).

After mounting /usr without softdeps again, csup works just fine.

Does anyone know why this is happening?

Note: The hardware is a Sun U60 with 2GB of RAM and two SCA-HDDs.

Regards
Chris

</description>
    <dc:creator>Christian Baer</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-11-16T13:26:39</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.netbsd.general/24826">
    <title>assessing a wireless link</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.netbsd.general/24826</link>
    <description>Can someone help me interpret netstat -p tcp?  

I've noticed odd behavior in the wi0 interface in my Soekris box. Web
pages loading on my laptop frequently pause at the "same" point: there's a
hesitation after the progress bar is about an inch long.  Also remote X
sometimes feels like it's underwater, running on a 19.2 kbps line.  

I thought I'd see if I could determine if the wireless link is at fault
and, if so, which end is complaining the loudest.   

Below is the output from "netstat -p tcp  -I wi0".  I'm not sure how to
interpret what I'm seeing, or whether another comand might be more
illuminating.  My question is, basically, what is the signal/noise ratio? 
How many packets are being lost, and is that figure good or bad?  Could it
reasonably be expected to improve using different hardware, or is what I'm
seeing par for the 802.11 course?  

I'm inclined to think the hardware is fine because the ip statistics look
good.  But if I knew what I was talking about, I wouldnt' be asking here. 
;-)

Much appreciation for your insight.  

== snip ==
$ netstat -p tcp  -I wi0
tcp:
        150923 packets sent
                92968 data packets (25932648 bytes)
                1640 data packets (327864 bytes) retransmitted
                51397 ack-only packets (56737 delayed)
                0 URG only packets
                0 window probe packets
                52 window update packets
                4876 control packets
                0 send attempts resulted in self-quench
        181240 packets received
                104731 acks (for 25621999 bytes)
                4833 duplicate acks
                0 acks for unsent data
                57677 packets (6183672 bytes) received in-sequence
                565 completely duplicate packets (38781 bytes)
                0 old duplicate packets
                1 packet with some dup. data (88 bytes duped)
                13733 out-of-order packets (0 bytes)
                0 packets (0 bytes) of data after window
                0 window probes
                313 window update packets
                903 packets received after close
                1 discarded for bad checksum
                0 discarded for bad header offset fields
                0 discarded because packet too short
        352 connection requests
        15304 connection accepts
        15532 connections established (including accepts)
        15660 connections closed (including 466 drops)
        1 embryonic connection dropped
        0 delayed frees of tcpcb
        80886 segments updated rtt (of 76309 attempts)
        2018 retransmit timeouts
                82 connections dropped by rexmit timeout
        0 persist timeouts (resulting in 0 dropped connections)
        0 keepalive timeouts
                0 keepalive probes sent
                0 connections dropped by keepalive
        2003 correct ACK header predictions
        10982 correct data packet header predictions
        32778 PCB hash misses
        143 dropped due to no socket
        0 connections drained due to memory shortage
        126 PMTUD blackholes detected
        1558 bad connection attempts
        15327 SYN cache entries added
                0 hash collisions
                15304 completed
                0 aborted (no space to build PCB)
                21 timed out
                0 dropped due to overflow
                0 dropped due to bucket overflow
                2 dropped due to RST
                0 dropped due to ICMP unreachable
                0 delayed free of SYN cache entries
        292 SYN,ACKs retransmitted
        192 duplicate SYNs received for entries already in the cache
        0 SYNs dropped (no route or no space)
        0 packets with bad signature
        0 packets with good signature
$ netstat  -I wi0 -p ip
ip:
        4604045 total packets received
        0 bad header checksums
        0 with size smaller than minimum
        0 with data size &lt; data length
        0 with length &gt; max ip packet size
        0 with header length &lt; data size
        0 with data length &lt; header length
        0 with bad options
        0 with incorrect version number
        0 fragments received
        0 fragments dropped (dup or out of space)
        0 fragments dropped (out of ipqent)
        0 malformed fragments dropped
        0 fragments dropped after timeout
        0 packets reassembled ok
        572856 packets for this host
        0 packets for unknown/unsupported protocol
        4015491 packets forwarded (0 packets fast forwarded)
        4861 packets not forwardable
        0 redirects sent
        0 packets no matching gif found
        551368 packets sent from this host
        0 packets sent with fabricated ip header
        0 output packets dropped due to no bufs, etc.
        0 output packets discarded due to no route
        0 output datagrams fragmented
        0 fragments created
        0 datagrams that can't be fragmented
        0 datagrams with bad address in header
= pins ==

--jkl

</description>
    <dc:creator>James K. Lowden</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-11-15T21:15:15</dc:date>
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    <title>Problem with CVS under cygwin - file make:</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.netbsd.general/24823</link>
    <description>If there is a better location for this question, please let me know.  
Thanks.

I'm trying to retrieve NetBSD-current using CVS under cygwin.  I use the 
following command lines:

$ export CVS_RSH="ssh"
$ export CVSROOT="anoncvs&lt; at &gt;anoncvs.NetBSD.org:/cvsroot"
$ cvs checkout -A -P src

Everything seems to be running ok, until I get the following error message:

cvs [checkout aborted]: cannot make directory src/compat/lib/libm/make:: 
No such file or directory

I think the problem is that the directory in question has a ":" at the 
end of the name (i.e., it is "src/compat/lib/libm/make:"), which I 
suppose Windows is objecting to.  I scrounged through the web-based CVS 
repository, and there is, in fact, a directory with that name, though 
there is nothing in it that I could see.  But I don't know how to make 
cvs skip that directory or to keep on going anyway.

Any ideas on how to get around this?

Thanks - Don

</description>
    <dc:creator>Donald T Hayford</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-11-15T15:30:06</dc:date>
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    <title>Xfree --&gt; Xorg cookbook?</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.netbsd.general/24820</link>
    <description>Has anyone written a step-by-step "cookbook" for upgrading X?  I'm 
especially interested in things like:

 1. What other files (like man.conf?) need to be updated to point
    to the new directories.  Do I need to do anything special in
    /etc/rc.conf to make it start Xorg instead of Xfree?

 2. What are all the various X config files that need to be
    moved from the old directories?  Are there any new config
    files that need to be created?

 3. Are there any special considerations or things in those
    config files that need to be editted?

 4. Other than /usr/X11R6, what else should I delete when
    finished with the upgrade?

 5. Any "gotchas" to watch out for in users' ~/.xsession files?

Since -current is now switched to Xorg by default, I guess it's time for 
me to upgrade.  But it's been so many years since I've actually done an 
X install, I'm totally certain that I don't even know what (or where) 
all the various files are.  I vaguely remember /etc/X11/XF86config and 
then there's a file somewhere that describes the xserver and its 
transports, ...

I know that this is not a voyage to "where no man has gone before," but 
it sure would be nice if one of those pioneers has actually recorded it 
all in the captain's log!

TIA   :-)


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    <dc:creator>Paul Goyette</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-11-15T02:08:51</dc:date>
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    <title>default gateway on different subnet</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.netbsd.general/24809</link>
    <description>Hello,

what is the proper NetBSD equivalent for the following two linux
route-commands in a situation where one host has not just one network
interface but also the problem that the default gateway is not on his
subnet:


   ifconfig eth0 200.2.116.140 netmask 255.255.255.0

   route add -net 200.2.117.0 netmask 255.255.255.240 dev eth0
   route add default gw 200.2.117.1


My first guess was the following (vr0 = eth0):


   ifconfig vr0 inet 200.2.116.140 netmask 255.255.255.0

   route add -net 200.2.117.0 -netmask 255.255.255.240 -link vr0 -iface
   route add default 200.2.117.1


but it didn't work. Unfortunately I also can't tell why exactly because
the machine is located in a datacenter far away from here and I have to
rely on a few notes made by busy technicians. What I do know is that the
NetBSD-image always boots up successfully (according to eyewitness
account ;).


After digging through the archives I also found this, but it didn't work
either:


   ifconfig vr0 inet 200.2.116.140 netmask 255.255.255.0

   route add -host 200.2.117.1 -link vr0 -iface
   route add default -ifa 200.2.116.140 200.2.117.1

   (http://mail-index.netbsd.org/netbsd-help/2006/12/15/0000.html)


I tried to reproduce the scenario on a similar qemu-setup and found out
that adding the other subnet fails with `Network unreachable' while
adding a host works as expected (at least that's what `route show' told
me).


Any help is greatly appreciated,

Petar


P.S. That's how the linux routing table looks like, when the Debian
     rescue-image is loaded:

     # route -n
     Kernel IP routing table
     Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
     200.2.117.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.240 U     0      0        0 eth0
     200.2.116.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth0
     0.0.0.0         200.2.117.1     0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth0

</description>
    <dc:creator>Petar Bogdanovic</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-11-13T22:08:45</dc:date>
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