http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.svlug hourly 1 1901-01-01T00:00+00:00 http://gmane.org/img/gmane-25t.png http://gmane.org http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.svlug/14268 <pre>Folks, I recently updated both my machines to Wheezy. However, I notice that login console shows: Debian GNU/Linux jessie/sid on both systems. This seems wrong, as it should show Debian GNU/Linux Wheezy Some mucking about revealed the above string to be the content of /etc/issue and /etc/issue.net. My sources.list is: deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian wheezy-updates main contrib deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian wheezy-updates main contrib deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ testing main deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib deb-src http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian wheezy main contrib non-free There's no preferences file for pinning etc, so the system should only be using wheezy repos. What am I doing wrong? --Sanatan </pre> Sanatan Rai 2013-05-19T16:28:35 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.svlug/14266 <pre>Been having a problem with a RAID-10 array on a 3ware card, whereby a drive died, but even after replacing it the array remains inoperable. Problem is almost exactly what was described here: http://serverfault.com/questions/335280/rebuilding-array-on-3ware-9690sa-8it It sounds like this might require some assistance from 3ware/LSI to kick the card out of inoperable status, and I've emailed their tech support about it. But I thought perhaps someone here might have run into this before and/or know of a fix or workaround. Any help would be very much appreciated! Thanks, DR </pre> David Rosenstrauch 2013-05-10T15:48:58 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.svlug/14265 <pre>When: Wednesday, May 8, 2013 Topic: Writing Testable Code in D Speaker: Ben Gertzfield Time: 6:30pm doors open 7:00pm meeting begins Where: Symantec VCAFE building 350 Ellis Street (near E. Middlefield Road) Mountain View, CA 94043 Map: &lt;http://tinyurl.com/334rv5&gt; Directions: VCAFE is accessible from the semicircular courtyard between Symantec buildings &lt;http://tinyurl.com/2dccgc&gt; Cost: Free More Info: &lt;http://accu.org/index.php/accu_branches/accu_usa/&gt; Modern large-scale software design often requires ever-growing team sizes. As team size scales up, so does the amount of churn (and number of bugs introduced) to a code base in a release. Unfortunately, the amount of manual developer or QA testing necessary to find those bugs scales quadratically (or worse) as N features are tested by hand in M configurations. The solution is to keep coders, not QA, responsible for maintaining the quality of their individual components, and to make it trivial and fast to run just the right tests that cover the code the coder changes. D comes pre-baked with lots of tools to make this easier, including a standard unit testing harness, but there'smuch more we can build on top of that to help write not only tests for code, but code that can be tested in an aut omated fashion. We'll discuss techniques and tools for designing large-scale testable code in D, including unit testing, mocks, fakes, inversion of control, and dependency injection. Ben Gertzfield is a mobile engineer at Facebook. He's designed and shipped testability and dependency injection frameworks for Objective-C and C++, and is a huge advocate for freeing engineers from the burdens of manual testing. ---- Upcoming ACCU talks ----- Wednesday, June 12 2013 Jeff Johnson and Austin Henderson Conceptual Models: Core to Good Design --------- The ACCU meets twice monthly. Meetings are always open to the public and are free of charge. To suggest topics and speakers please email Ali Cehreli via acehreli-/E1597aS9LQAvxtiuMwx3w&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org </pre> Walter Vannini 2013-05-08T20:16:51 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.svlug/14264 <pre>When: Wednesday, May 8, 2013 Topic: Writing Testable Code in D Speaker: Ben Gertzfield Time: 6:30pm doors open 7:00pm meeting begins Where: Symantec VCAFE building 350 Ellis Street (near E. Middlefield Road) Mountain View, CA 94043 Map: &lt;http://tinyurl.com/334rv5&gt; Directions: VCAFE is accessible from the semicircular courtyard between Symantec buildings &lt;http://tinyurl.com/2dccgc&gt; Cost: Free More Info: &lt;http://accu.org/index.php/accu_branches/accu_usa/&gt; Modern large-scale software design often requires ever-growing team sizes. As team size scales up, so does the amount of churn (and number of bugs introduced) to a code base in a release. Unfortunately, the amount of manual developer or QA testing necessary to find those bugs scales quadratically (or worse) as N features are tested by hand in M configurations. The solution is to keep coders, not QA, responsible for maintaining the quality of their individual components, and to make it trivial and fast to run just the right tests that cover the code the coder changes. D comes pre-baked with lots of tools to make this easier, including a standard unit testing harness, but there'smuch more we can build on top of that to help write not only tests for code, but code that can be tested in an aut omated fashion. We'll discuss techniques and tools for designing large-scale testable code in D, including unit testing, mocks, fakes, inversion of control, and dependency injection. Ben Gertzfield is a mobile engineer at Facebook. He's designed and shipped testability and dependency injection frameworks for Objective-C and C++, and is a huge advocate for freeing engineers from the burdens of manual testing. ---- Upcoming ACCU talks ----- Wednesday, June 12 2013 Jeff Johnson and Austin Henderson Conceptual Models: Core to Good Design --------- The ACCU meets twice monthly. Meetings are always open to the public and are free of charge. To suggest topics and speakers please email Ali Cehreli via acehreli-/E1597aS9LQAvxtiuMwx3w&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org </pre> Walter Vannini 2013-05-06T22:24:33 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.svlug/14262 <pre>_______________________________________________ svlug mailing list svlug-WWvEsSy67K3q5qozqU1N3A&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org http://lists.svlug.org/lists/listinfo/svlug </pre> Ehud Kaldor 2013-05-06T17:23:10 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.svlug/14244 <pre>_______________________________________________ svlug mailing list svlug-WWvEsSy67K3q5qozqU1N3A&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org http://lists.svlug.org/lists/listinfo/svlug </pre> Ehud Kaldor 2013-05-02T23:41:57 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.svlug/14241 <pre>Archival copy of the original 1997 page: http://linuxmafia.com/~rick/linux-info/daniel-kionka.html Author Dan Kionka was SVLUG's President during its long original incarnation as the PC-Unix SIG of Silicon Valley Computer Society, starting 1988. By 1992, the SIG began meeting in the community room at Carl's Jr., First and Trimble, San Jose. In 1995, the SIG renamed itself 'Linux SIG'. Last, in 1997 the group renamed itself a second time to 'SVLUG' to match the name of a majordomo mailing list Rob Walker established at Cisco Systems.[1] This was around the time Dan created the now-archived Web page in his personal tree at his then-employer's corporate Web site. I grabbed a copy before it vanished. Naturally, after 16 years, most of the links are severely bitrotted, but not quite all of them. (Historical details cribbed from http://www.svlug.org/about.php .) [1] I've merged the old majordomo mailing list's mbox into our Mailman archives, which is why this mailing list's records now go back to Sept. 24, 1997. My involvement with SVLUG owes to joining that original mailing list the next day. </pre> Rick Moen 2013-05-02T17:52:07 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.svlug/14238 <pre>Or, more specifically, mawk. (Gawk doesn't seem to suffer from this issue.) Just stumbled upon the most bizarre awk problem. mawk and gawk are showing 2 different results for the same code. Am I missing something obvious or might this in fact be a bug? TIA! DR --- sense-2nfcQlAxhqFxItEYtq+jb+fL8C9jpcVh&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org:/sense/work/feature-summary/debugging$ cat sample.txt 32e49398e024dcb79a319c62ceb213ae3e824f772 32e4cb91fdefe6103d73f1d6e43ecd8430f853342 32e4cb91fdefe6103d73f1d6e43ecd8430f85334132 32e5434c41a8e2f0178fd19bd868758af6eb67c02 32e5606710 32e5606779 32e5612259 32e57aacfd27f7fde61184052cb35551213c7cd65 sense-2nfcQlAxhqFxItEYtq+jb+fL8C9jpcVh&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org:/sense/work/feature-summary/debugging$ cat ../totals-by-label.awk #!/usr/bin/awk -f BEGIN {FS="\t"; prev_label = "";} { curr_label=$1; count=$2; if (prev_label != "" &amp;&amp; curr_label != prev_label) { output(); } prev_label=curr_label; tot += count; } END { output(); } function output() { print prev_label"\t"tot; tot = 0; } sense-2nfcQlAxhqFxItEYtq+jb+fL8C9jpcVh&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org:/sense/work/feature-summary/debugging$ cat sample.txt | mawk -f ../totals-by-label.awk 32e49398e024dcb79a319c62ceb213ae3e824f77 2 32e4cb91fdefe6103d73f1d6e43ecd8430f85334 134 32e5434c41a8e2f0178fd19bd868758af6eb67c0 2 32e56122 148 32e57aacfd27f7fde61184052cb35551213c7cd6 5 sense-2nfcQlAxhqFxItEYtq+jb+fL8C9jpcVh&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org:/sense/work/feature-summary/debugging$ cat sample.txt | gawk -f ../totals-by-label.awk 32e49398e024dcb79a319c62ceb213ae3e824f77 2 32e4cb91fdefe6103d73f1d6e43ecd8430f85334 134 32e5434c41a8e2f0178fd19bd868758af6eb67c0 2 32e56067 89 32e56122 59 32e57aacfd27f7fde61184052cb35551213c7cd6 5 </pre> David Rosenstrauch 2013-05-02T13:58:49 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.svlug/14237 <pre>For some time, when I would log into one of my banks, I would get a window suggesting that Iceweasel was not supported and that I should use Internet Explorer or Firefox instead.  Just the same, I could access the account and do what I needed to do. Recently the bank changed their code.  Now I get a bright red banner with this message: Your copy of Iceape is old and probably has known security flaws, but you have disabled automated update checks. Please update to a newer version. It was just a caution, but it was rather distracting.  I tried `aptitude update; aptitude safe-upgrade` I still get the same message.  Comments? _______________________________________________ svlug mailing list svlug-WWvEsSy67K3q5qozqU1N3A&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org http://lists.svlug.org/lists/listinfo/svlug </pre> Paul Zander 2013-05-02T07:26:01 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.svlug/14233 <pre> WHEN: Wednesday, May 1st, 2013 7pm-9pm MAIN PRESENTATION TOPIC: Linux Malware PRESENTED BY: Rick Moen TOPIC SUMMARY: We had it first! Not counting the early Elk Cloner boot sector virus for the Apple II, computer viruses had been developed on Unix and become old hat when MS-DOS was just getting started and hadn't even been attacked, yet. The biggest Internet meltdown ever was caused by a 'worm' (program that propagates across networks) targeting BSD Unix. Our speaker will tour malware's colourful history and put it in perspective of larger security concerns including horrifically bad coding practices in many significant desktop projects and slipshod quality control. ABOUT THE PRESENTER: Rick Moen (http://linuxmafia.com/~rick/) is longtime senior system administrator and member of SVLUG's Web Team, who also runs nearby Linux user group CABAL (http://linuxmafia.com/cabal/), meeting at his and his wife's house in West Menlo Park, and has been fooling with various Unices since the 1980s. Having formerly been a technical employee at several Linux firms (Linuxcare, VA Linux Systems, and California Digital Corp.) during decades past, he stresses that it's not his fault and he has an alibi. LOCATION: Symantec VCAFE Facility 350 Ellis Street (near E. Middlefield Road) Mountain View, CA 94043 Directions on how to get there are listed at: http://www.svlug.org/directions/veritas.php We've tried our very best for these directions to be accurate. If you have any improvements to make, please let SVLUG's volunteers know! webmaster at svlug.org POST-MEETING GATHERING: If you just can't get enough, a smaller group usually goes to a local restaurant/diner after the meeting: Frankie, Johnnie &amp; Luigi, Too, 939 West El Camino Real between Shoreline and Castro, Mountain View. We look forward to seeing you there! _______________________________________________ svlug-announce mailing list svlug-announce-WWvEsSy67K3q5qozqU1N3A&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org http://lists.svlug.org/lists/listinfo/svlug-announce </pre> Rick Moen 2013-04-30T05:24:01 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.svlug/14232 <pre>http://events.hackerdojo.com/event/2838001-libreoffice-bay-area-meetup My role is facility host, not presenter, so please follow-up with L.O. organizers, reachable through https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/BayArea2013 not me. </pre> Alison Chaiken 2013-04-29T17:08:00 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.svlug/14231 <pre>Hello, For the past few months I've been using my locally hosted Linux box for helping me triage and test issues at work. My job has multiple services facing the Internet so we receive on a regular basis issues of latency, mail services not working or intermittent issues. Trying to reproduce a problem from outside a corporate network is the best way since you're taking the same path as the customers. Also it's handy to have tools available to you that are not either approved or installed on the company hosts. But there's some problem, I only have one location, my house, to test from. Also I've been having problems with my dynamic DNS setup so it's not reliable. With this being said, I'm planning on starting a few Linux hosts on a budget VPS plan in two locations, West coast and East coast of the US. The pricing is pretty cheap but the size of the systems is going to have a low amount of RAM, typically 256MB. This should be enough power for basic tasks since it's all command line access. I'm planning to use the standard tools (mtr, telnet, traceroute, etc) but I wasn't sure how to test e-mail connectivity besides manual telnet commands. I also wanted to have squid running on the toolbox as a check out web pages being served from a different location. Any suggestions how to cover the mail services testing? Thanks, Robert </pre> Robert Freiberger 2013-04-27T20:19:13 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.svlug/14230 <pre>Hi all, On 5/1/2013 I'm giving an inotify presentation at GoLUG, where I'll show the code to discover and act on file changes in a directory. The code itself is pretty cookbook. What might be more challenging is to make it interesting and applicable. Therefore I'd like to ask this question: What are some cool things that can be done with inotify? Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt * http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance </pre> Steve Litt 2013-04-26T17:56:29 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.svlug/14229 <pre> The Linux Users' Group of Davis (LUGOD) will be holding the following meeting: Monday May 20, 2013 7:00pm - 9:00pm Presentation: Smart Static Sites with Hakyll by Eric Rasmussen An overview of modern static site generators with a focus on Hakyll (http://jaspervdj.be/hakyll/), a Haskell-based DSL (domain-specific language) for generating static websites and blogs (no Haskell knowledge required). This talk will look at a new trend in truly open source blogging, different markdown formats, responsive design for mobile/tablet, compiling/compressing static assets, and deploying with rsync. About the speaker: Eric is a software developer for newcars.com and is active in the python and haskell open source communities. This meeting will be held at a special location: Davis Public Library Blanchard meeting room 315 East 14th Street Davis, California 95616 For more details on this meeting, visit: http://www.lugod.org/meeting/ or simply: http://www.lugod.org/ (and follow the links) For maps, directions, public transportation schedules, etc., visit: http://www.lugod.org/meeting/library/ ------------ About LUGOD: ------------ The Linux Users' Group of Davis is a 501(c)7 non-profit organization dedicated to the Linux computer operating system and other Open Source and Free Software. Since 1999, LUGOD has held regular meetings with guest speakers in Davis, California, as well as other events in Davis and the greater Sacramento region. Events are always free and open to the public. You can find LUGOD on Facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/lugod/ and on LinkedIn at: http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=35879 Please visit our website for more details: http://www.lugod.org/ </pre> nbs 2013-04-26T16:56:33 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.svlug/14224 <pre>Overheard comment, posted to IRC: I'd post this great UDP joke here, but I'm not sure you'd get it. DSM remarked: We wouldn't get it in order anyway. JS remarked: Are you going to keep telling the joke until I get it? Oh no wait - that would be TCP. BT remarked: I got here late, what happened? </pre> Rick Moen 2013-04-23T03:37:31 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.svlug/14223 <pre>Just wondering if anyone on the list has ever worked in net ops at a residential ISP - or know someone who has. If so, I'd really appreciate if you could put me in touch with them to ask a quick question or 2 (off-list). TIA! DR </pre> David Rosenstrauch 2013-04-22T22:17:09 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.svlug/14221 <pre>As a genetics researcher, this issue is very thorny for me. Clearly, the more data we get on common biological processes, the better. We all use the "reference" human genome as if it's a gold standard, but it's really only a compilation of a handful of people from not very diverse backgrounds. On the other hand there is this: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323783704578247842499724794.html google this, if you don't like that source: Whitehead Institute for Biomedical Research anonymous dna donor tl;dr - The identities of anonymous donors of DNA were discovered by cross-referencing genealogy web sites, state of residence (most donors were known to come from one state), and obituaries. (IMO, the genealogy websites should get a smack on the wrist, as they are the key link. But they likely won't.) In any case, I don't think society is mature enough for that kind of sharing. Which sucks, but that's where we're at. -Jim _______________________________________________ svlug mailing list svlug-WWvEsSy67K3q5qozqU1N3A&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org http://lists.svlug.org/lists/listinfo/svlug </pre> Jim Auer 2013-04-16T12:44:26 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.svlug/14220 <pre> Looks Like "Open Data" is being used out there in the wild - http://blogs.hbr.org/cs/2013/03/open_data_has_little_value_if.html When we walk into our doctor's office, one of the first things we deal with are lawyers. I'd rather it be the Open Source folks - maybe we can get out ahead on this one issue of having control over our aggregate medical data. One of the conclusions/solutions I reached after the SVLUG listserv discussion is to ask individuals to "donate" their health data. This would provide the collector with the legal right to access the information. Apparently, others have the same idea: http://blogs.hbr.org/cs/2013/03/a_new_type_of_philanthropy_don.html I don't want to start a long discussion, just want to update you all. What do you all think of the phrase "public data"? </pre> Mehma Sarja 2013-04-16T04:03:18 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.svlug/14214 <pre>I am building a service that: - Accepts arbitrary binaries from arbitrary users. - Runs those binaries. - Returns the files produced by those binaries back to their users. - Attempts to do all of that in a wholesome and sustainable manner. &lt;cue mocking laughter&gt; Yeah. I am so lucky. Okay, let's assume chroot jails and unprivileged users and that mostly obvious filesystem access stuff. I don't think those are the interesting bits. The interesting bits for me are the management of both inbound and outbound network connections (it wouldn't do to run a botnet or open proxy), as well as the excessive consumption of local resources (eg fork bombs, memory or handle exhaustion, etc) which would deny the service to other users. So, how to do? I'm currently digging through SELinux with SMACK next on the docket to research. Anything else I should be looking at? </pre> JC Lawrence 2013-04-15T21:00:31 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.svlug/14184 <pre>Hello, Recently (1-2 months) I bought a new laptop from system76 (model - Gazelle, 16GiB memory, 500G disk) and suspect there may be h/w issues. Any suggestions/pointers are welcome. 1. Memory errors While booting it reports these messages [ 0.000000] *BAD*gran_size: 64K chunk_size: 16M num_reg: 10 lose cover RAM: -8M [ 0.000000] *BAD*gran_size: 64K chunk_size: 32M num_reg: 10 lose cover RAM: -8M [ 0.000000] *BAD*gran_size: 64K chunk_size: 64M num_reg: 10 lose cover RAM: -8M [ 0.000000] gran_size: 64K chunk_size: 128M num_reg: 10 lose cover RAM: 0G [ 0.000000] gran_size: 64K chunk_size: 256M num_reg: 10 lose cover RAM: 0G [ 0.000000] gran_size: 64K chunk_size: 512M num_reg: 10 lose cover RAM: 0G [ 0.000000] gran_size: 64K chunk_size: 1G num_reg: 10 lose cover RAM: 0G [ 0.000000] *BAD*gran_size: 64K chunk_size: 2G num_reg: 10 lose cover RAM: -1G [ 0.000000] g Ran memtest and it started reporting lot of errors - but there is a reported defect on memtest for ubuntu 12.10 - memtest86+ test #7 false positives (random number sequence error) - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/memtest86+/+bug/1071209 How to determine if there is a memory stick issue? I dont have any spare/equivalent memory. 2. Hard disk Further down, it shows some info about disk [ 3.472751] EXT4-fs (sda1): INFO: recovery required on readonly filesystem [ 3.472753] EXT4-fs (sda1): write access will be enabled during recovery [ 11.728764] EXT4-fs (sda1): recovery complete [ 11.755158] EXT4-fs (sda1): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: (null) [ 13.835099] Adding 16666620k swap on /dev/sda5. Priority:-1 extents:1 across:16666620k Ran the disk utility and smart data report shows lot of out of range values - airflow temperature 46 C/115 F (failed once in the past) but overall health assessment is listed as 'OK'. There appears to be some unaccounted space as well - does the system reserve some space by default which is not reported at all? used space - 20G - (from gparted) swap - 15G unused - 430G Total - 500G - what about the remaining 35G? Thank you, Vasu Vasudevan Kottilil _______________________________________________ svlug mailing list svlug-WWvEsSy67K3q5qozqU1N3A&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org http://lists.svlug.org/lists/listinfo/svlug </pre> Vasudevan Kottilil 2013-04-11T20:00:07 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.svlug/14181 <pre>If there are any Symantec employees on this mailing list, or if anyone here knows a Symantec employee who likes SVLUG and might be willing to be our employee sponsor, please write to me offlist or to volunteers-WWvEsSy67K3q5qozqU1N3A&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org . As things stand, SVLUG has just lost its meeting location effective immediately. ----- Forwarded message from "Amalia Francia (CS)" &lt;Amalia_Francia&lt; at &gt;symantec.com&gt; ----- Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 11:19:38 -0700 From: "Amalia Francia (CS)" [Symantec e-mail address] To: Rick Moen &lt;rick-IyCrq+X4Fdq2oZ/6fjIToQ&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt; CC: "'volunteers-WWvEsSy67K3q5qozqU1N3A&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org'" &lt;volunteers-WWvEsSy67K3q5qozqU1N3A&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt; Subject: SVLUG Meetings vCafe Hi Rick, Would you happen to have a Symantec sponsor for future meetings in the café? Kristin Swanson used to be the sponsor but she is no longer with the company and it is required that a Symantec employee/host be present for all meetings going forward. Unfortunately, without a Symantec host, I will no longer be allowed to reserve the vCafe for your group. Thank you, Amalia Francia Cushman &amp; Wakefield at Symantec [contact data snipped] ----- End forwarded message ----- </pre> Rick Moen 2013-04-10T19:26:00 Search the mailing list at Gmane query http://search.gmane.org/?group=$group=gmane.org.user-groups.linux.svlug