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    <title>FFmpeg as SPI associated project</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.spi.general/1179</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi all.  FFmpeg has applied to become an SPI Associated project. Comments
and questions are welcome.

I support and am sponsoring this application because:

* FFmpeg is a genuine Free Software community project:

FFmpeg is released under the GPL or LGPL licenses depending on
the choice of configuration options.

* FFmpeg has an established development community and history of software
releases.

The initial release of FFmpeg was in December 2000 and the project 
continues to be actively developed.

* FFmpeg is used by a broad audience:

FFmpeg is widely used on Linux, Microsoft Windows and many other operating 
systems both as a standalone tool and as part of other applications.

The resolution below is proposed to be submitted to the June 14 board
meeting:

SPI resolution 2012-05-25.rtb.1

WHEREAS

1. FFmpeg is a substantial and significant Free Software project.

2. The FFmpeg developers would like SPI's support and assistance,
    including taking Donations, Holding Funds and legal assistance.


THE SPI BOARD RESOLVES THAT

3. FFmpeg is formally invited to become an SPI Associated Project,
    according to the SPI Framework for Associated Projects, SPI Resolution
    1998-11-16.iwj.1-amended-2004-08-10.iwj.1, a copy of which can be found
    at http://www.spi-inc.org/corporate/resolutions/2004/2004-08-10.iwj.1/

4. Stefano Sabatini is recognised by SPI as the authoritative decision
    maker and SPI liaison for FFmpeg.  Successors will be appointed
    following a concensus on the ffmpeg-devel&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;ffmpeg.org mailing list.  If
    a concensus cannot be achieved an election for the SPI liaison will be
    held among members of the ffmpeg-devel&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;ffmpeg.org mailing list.

5. This invitation will lapse, if not accepted, 60 days after it is
    approved by the SPI Board.


Full text of application for SPI associated project status:

--- Begin Application ---

Name and details of the project
===============================

The FFmpeg project was founded in 2000 by Fabrice Bellard, who is
also the trademark holder.

Website: http://www.ffmpeg.org/

FFmpeg aims to provide a complete, cross-platform solution to
multimedia processing including decoding, encoding, demuxing, muxing,
streaming, filtering, metadata processing, etc.

It comprises both a commandline toolset (ffmpeg, ffplay, ffprobe,
ffserver) and several libraries. For more info, check:
http://ffmpeg.org/about.html

FFmpeg currently supports a huge number of components, notably a large
number of codecs (more or less known), some of which have been reverse
engineered by FFmpeg developers. Furthermore some formats have been
designed and implemented within FFmpeg, in particular the NUT
container, and the FFV1 and Snow codecs.

FFmpeg aims to support formats and features natively, for example when
there is no active free software project providing support in a given
area, but relies on external libraries (e.g. libmp3lame, libx264) when
it makes sense.

FFmpeg is free software licensed under the LGPL or GPL depending on
the choice of configuration options.

FFmpeg is used by a large number of multimedia FLOSS projects
(e.g. MPlayer, VLC, Chromium, Blender etc., see
http://ffmpeg.org/projects.html for a more comprehensive list), and is
used as backend in a large number of multimedia website conversion
services (possibly including Google Video, Facebook and YouTube), and
is shipped by many Linux distros, for example Fedora and Centos. See:
http://distrowatch.com/search.php?pkg=ffmpeg&amp;amp;pkgver=#pkgsearch
for an indepth survey.

The Windows platform is supported through MinGW, and daily Windows
builds are provided by third parties like for example:
http://ffmpeg.zeranoe.com/builds/

At the beginning of 2011 a group of developers created a fork which
was named Libav (for the fine details read the March 15, 2011 news
entry on ffmpeg.org). Most Libav changes are merged regularly into
FFmpeg.


Which SPI services will be needed
=================================

We request the following services to SPI:

- Accepting Donations and Holding Funds on behalf of FFmpeg
- Legal Assistance

In case of need we reserve the possibility to ask for other services.


Who is going to be the liaison to SPI, and the process for selecting/electing replacements
==========================================================================================

I, Stefano Sabatini, am going to assume the role of liaison while this
application is processed.

In case of application approval, the liaison will be chosen over
agreement on the public ffmpeg-devel mailing list. In case a consensus
can't be reached we'll establish a vote for electing the liaison, and
we will delay expense/refund approvals until we get a proper consensus
on the liaison choice or election.

The liaison mandate will last a fixed period, orientatively one year,
at the end of which we will run a new selection process. The liaison
role change will be promptly notified to SPI.

Every refund request will be posted to the project public development
mailing list (ffmpeg-devel&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;ffmpeg.org) and can be discussed by the
developers and other interested parties, it's also possible for the
project maintainer (currently Michael Niedermayer) to veto a request
before 7 days have passed since the liaison approval.

Every refund request sent by the liaison will have a link to the
public discussion, so SPI can check that the issue was public 7 days
ago at least and it has not received a veto, or it has been explicitly
approved so it can be considered valid.

--- End Application ---

Thanks,

Rob

&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Robert Brockway</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-24T13:00:48</dc:date>
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    <title>Treasurer's Report as of 2012-04-30</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.spi.general/1178</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;This report uses a cash-based method of accounting, recording donations
when deposited (not when the check was written or received by us) and
recording expenses when sent or scheduled for payment (not when
incurred).

Income Statement
for the Period April 01, 2012 - April 30, 2012

 Income
   Ordinary Income
        Arch Linux                         360.00
        DebConf 12                       5,110.00
        Debian                           3,803.50
        Drizzle                            150.00
        FreeDesktop.org                 27,000.00
        Gallery                             50.00
        Jenkins                            100.00
        LibreOffice                        110.00
        PostgreSQL                         500.00
        Privoxy                             25.00
        SPI General                        205.76
        SPI 5%                             271.80
        The HeliOS Project                 200.00
        YafaRay Code Sprint                127.50
        YafaRay                             10.00

        Total Ordinary Income           38,023.56
                                        ---------

   Interest Income
        Key Bank Money Mkt Savings           0.77
        Chase BusinessClassic Checking       0.54
        Chase Bus Select High Yield Savings 12.41

        Total Interest Income               13.72
                                            -----

   Gross Income                         38,037.28
                                        ---------

 Expenses
  Ordinary Expenses

        Arch Linux
          Processing Fees            18.60
          SPI 5%                     18.00

          Total Arch Linux Exp       36.60
                                     -----

        DebConf 11
          Travel Reimbursement      119.09

          Total DebConf 11 Exp      119.09
                                    ------
      
        DebConf 12
          Processing Fees             5.10

          Total DebConf 12 Exp        5.10
                                      ----

        Debian
          Debit Card Fee              3.00
          Processing Fees            99.84
          SPI 5%                    190.18
          Travel Reimbursement
            (GSoC)                  500.00

          Total Debian Exp          793.02
                                    ------

        Drizzle
          Processing Fees             6.35
          SPI 5%                      7.50

          Total Drizzle Exp          13.85
                                     -----

        freedesktop.org (fd.o)
          Travel Reimbursement    4,467.32

          Total fd.o Exp          4,467.32
                                  --------

        Gallery
          Processing Fees             1.13
          SPI 5%                      2.50

          Total Gallery Exp           3.63
                                      ----
        
        Haskell
          Hosting Fees               54.51

          Total Haskell Exp          54.51
                                     -----

        Jenkins
          Processing Fees             4.35
          SPI 5%                      5.00

          Total Jenkins Exp           9.35
                                      ----


        LibreOffice 
          Processing Fees             5.10
          SPI 5%                      5.50
          Travel Reimbursement    1,832.13

          Total LibreOffice Exp   1,842.73
                                  --------

        OpenWrt
          Transfer to FFIS
           (hosting)                666.67

          Total OpenWrt Exp         666.67
                                    ------

        PostgreSQL
          Graphics Design           160.00
          Legal Fees              1,277.66
          Processing Fees            11.25
          SPI 5%                     25.00
          Travel Reimbursement    1,569.72

          Total PostgreSQL Exp    3,043.63
                                  --------

        Privoxy
          Processing Fees             1.35
          SPI 5%                      1.25

          Total Privoxy Exp           2.60
                                      ----

        SPI
          PaySimple Monthly Fee      29.95
          SSL Cert
            Wikimedia Elections      49.99
          Transaction Fees           46.61
          Transfer to FFIS
            OpenJDK Dev Room
            FOSDEM                4,315.85

          Total SPI Exp           4,442.40
                                  --------

        The HeliOS Project
          Expense reimbursement     819.08
          Processing Fees             2.70
          SPI 5%                     10.00

          Total HeliOS Exp          831.78
                                    ------

        YafaRay Code Sprint
          Processing Fees             7.20
          SPI 5%                      6.38

          Total YafaRay CS Exp       13.58
                                     -----

        YafaRay
          Processing Fees             0.75
          SPI 5%                      0.50

          Total YafaRay Exp           1.25
                                      ----


        Total Expenses           16,347.11
                                 ---------

        Net Income               21,690.17
                                 =========


Balance Sheet as of April 30, 2012

   ASSETS
     Current Assets
        Chase BusinessClassic Checking with Interest      65,624.79
        Chase Business Select High Yield Savings          97,683.01
        Key Business Reward Checking                     142,300.61
        Key Business Signature Money Market Savings       36,026.56
        Ameriprise Cash Mgmt Acct                         13,406.15
        Debian Debit Card                                    308.00

     Total Current Assets                                355,349.12


   TOTAL ASSETS                                          355,349.12


   LIABILITIES &amp;amp; EQUITY

     General and current liabilities                           0.00

     Equity
        Reserves held in trust
           aptosid Earmark                      100.33
           Arch Linux Earmark                 2,877.30
           Debian Earmark                    87,202.28
           DebConf 11 Earmark                29,251.50
           DebConf 12 Earmark                 5,104.90
           Drizzle                            1,104.10
           Fluxbox                              995.00
           Freedesktop.org Earmark           35,390.88
           FreedomBox Foundation Earmark     20,105.69
           Gallery Earmark                    7,940.36
           GNU TeXmacs Earmark                  162.90
           Haskell Earmark                   12,892.26
           Jenkins Earmark                   11,501.50
           LibreOffice Earmark               24,795.42
           madwifi-project.org Earmark        1,494.90
           OpenOffice.org Earmark            21,857.84
           OpenVAS                               45.71
           OpenWrt                              831.93
           Open Voting Foundation Earmark       153.65
           OSUNIX                                 0.56
           Path64                                 9.31
           Plan 9 Earmark                     6,500.00
           PostgreSQL Earmark                29,919.75
           Privoxy Earmark                      568.30
           The HeliOS Project                   952.69
           Tux4Kids Earmark                   8,788.85
           YafaRay Code Sprint Earmark          345.13
           YafaRay Earmark                    4,892.78

        Total held in trust                              315,785.82

        General reserves                                  39,563.30
.

     Total Equity                                        355,349.12

   TOTAL LIABILITIES &amp;amp; EQUITY                            355,349.12

&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Michael Schultheiss</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-05-17T17:38:39</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.spi.general/1174">
    <title>D&amp;O Insurance</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.spi.general/1174</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi all.  SPI is investigating options for Directors and Officers
insurance.

I'm interested in any recommendations for insurance companies, brokers or
other organisaations who offer D&amp;amp;O insurance packages suitable for US
not-for-profit corporations.  Please feel free to provide recommendations
in reply to this email or via private email if you prefer.

Here are a couple of recommendations I have already:

Nonprofit Coordinating Committee of New York
http://www.npccny.org/info/oi2.htm
Using NPCC's insurance requires being a member of the organisation.
Membership would cost no more than $250 and seems to provide affordable
D&amp;amp;O insurance for members.

The Weiner Company
http://www.weinerco.com/
A similar FOSS foundation went through this company and were apparently
happy with the result.

I will be getting pricing for D&amp;amp;O insurance and presenting it for
discussion.

Cheers,

Rob

&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Robert Brockway</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-04-22T02:30:48</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.spi.general/1165">
    <title>Meeting log for 2012-04-12</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.spi.general/1165</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Watch out for the move to 17th May for next meeting and the call for
help with the PHP membership management system.  Share and enjoy!

HIGHLIGHTS

21:01:06 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; *GAVEL*

21:01:06 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; [item 1, Opening] Welcome to today's Software in the
Public Interest board of directors meeting, which is now called to
order.  Today's agenda and details of pending resolutions can be found
on the web at:
http://www.spi-inc.org/meetings/agendas/2012/2012-04-12/

[item 2, Roll Call]
21:01:17 &amp;lt;Noodles&amp;gt; Jonathan McDowell
21:01:17 &amp;lt;Clint&amp;gt; Clint Adams
21:01:18 &amp;lt;zobel&amp;gt; Martin Zobel-Helas
21:01:19 &amp;lt;Hydroxide&amp;gt; Jimmy Kaplowitz
21:01:21 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; Bdale Garbee
21:01:21 &amp;lt;Ganneff&amp;gt; Joerg Jaspert
21:01:24 &amp;lt;Solver&amp;gt; Robert Brockway
21:01:26 &amp;lt;schultmc&amp;gt; Michael Schultheiss

[item 3, President's Report]
21:02:21 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; My apologies to the board for my absence from our
last meeting, I suffered an unanticipated airline flight delay that
day.

[item 4, Treasurer's Report]
21:02:34 &amp;lt;schultmc&amp;gt; standard report was mailed out and is in the
agenda. nothing of note although Debian did receive a large donation
via credit card - the donor should be informed of lest costly donation
methods.  no chance yet to review options for bookkeeping
assistance. - I'll be less busy after this weekend

[item 5, Secretary's report]
21:04:22 &amp;lt;Noodles&amp;gt; Nothing from me.

[item 6, Outstanding minutes]
voting results for "Minutes for 8th March 2012 board meeting": Yes: 6,
Abstain: 2

[item 7, Items up for discussion]

[item 7.1, YafaRay selling training materials]
21:06:20 * Hydroxide sees no problem with YafaRay selling educational,
training, or documentation materials about YafaRay.

21:06:36 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; I didn't see any problem either, so wasn't sure why
this was on the agenda

21:06:46 &amp;lt;Hydroxide&amp;gt; my guess is Alvaro wanted to prod us into action
but, someone will have to handle things like collecting sales tax and
verifying what needs to happen there and in which jurisdictions

21:07:22 &amp;lt;Noodles&amp;gt; I'm guessing it may be driven from outside the US.
IIRC YafaRay are mostly in Europe.  Which may make sales tax a non
issue.  But aside from checking the exact nature of that I don't see a
problem.

21:08:05 &amp;lt;Hydroxide&amp;gt; Noodles: if SPI is doing the sales, we can't
ignore US or New York law, as a US and New York entity. we may have
other jurisdictions to worry about - no idea about EU VAT myself. none
of this is a problem, someone just has to follow up on it

21:09:43 &amp;lt;Alvaro&amp;gt; afaik tax sales should be handled by SPI in regard
to his legal address

21:10:11 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; in the US, most states only require the collection of
sales tax for items sold in the same jurisdiction as the seller.  I'm
not 100% clear on NY law, but I suspect tax only needs to be collected
on sales of items to NY addresses

21:10:55 &amp;lt;Hydroxide&amp;gt; bdale: yes - but we might at least have to worry
about it for New York buyers, and possibly Indiana and other buyers
where we have either officers, directors, and/or significant donations
or sales.  agreed that we basically have to do it for NY unless this
falls into an exception like DebConf10's activities did.  there is
probably some way to use a third-party to handle the whole sales
process for us, including tax collections stuff. so the work involved
might just be "find an online storefront that does that and confirm
with SFLC that that meets our obligations"

21:11:32 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; wrt sales tax collection, don't make it more
complicated than it needs to be is my general advice.  ok, I think we
can wrap this for today.  Hydroxide will look for suitable
out-sourcers and we can discuss on list as no resolution should be
required

[item 7.2, Discussion of tracking system]
21:16:09 &amp;lt;Solver&amp;gt; There is a general concensus that a tracking system
is a good idea and RT seems to be the preferred option at this stage I
think we just need to confirm we will get it installed and running

21:16:37 &amp;lt;Ganneff&amp;gt; im against redmine unless someone has a reason for
the other features it has. which i can't see. im fine with rt, have
multiple of em, its nice and easy to adapt if need be. i veto otrs as
its sh*t as hell if someone plans to mention it... i think we will end
up with a nice little vm just for this, so i can easily hand out rt
admin access to others (including filesystem access i mean, not just
the web stuff).

21:16:46 &amp;lt;Noodles&amp;gt; Again I didn't think this really needed to be on
the agenda as I thought we'd come to a decision offline.

[item 8, Any other business]
21:18:35 &amp;lt;Noodles&amp;gt; I'd like to apologise for making zero progress on
membership cleanup.  Various things came up that meant I didn't have a
decent chunk of time to sit down and look at the website code, though
I did have a few thoughts on what I wanted to do with it.  I think all
the discussion from last month is still relevant.  If someone else has
time/inclination to jump in and suggest some changes or wants to
discuss with me I'm happy for that to happen. As I said I'm not a PHP
person so it's a steeper curve for me.  Largely I think we/I want a
"I'm still interested" button/link in the members area to update an
active date field in the DB.  And a vote will also update that field.
And then we can mail based on that field, and cull x weeks after the
mail based on that field.  And that can all be largely automatic.  So
extend the members table to have that field, extend the vote script to
update it, add a page/link to update it from the web interface and add
a script to send out a mail with a link to the page.  I don't think
it's complex, I just haven't had time to sit down and write code.

21:19:01 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; I'll note in passing here that I've already proposed
a SPI BOF for Debconf 12, all who plan to attend from the board are
respectfully asked to include it in their plans once it gets scheduled
assuming it does

[item 9, Next board meeting]
21:25:22 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; let's go with the 17th then, then return to normal in June

21:25:38 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; *GAVEL*


TIMED LOG

21:01:06 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; *GAVEL*
21:01:06 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; [item 1, Opening] Welcome to today's Software in the Public Interest board of directors meeting, which is now called to order.
21:01:06 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; Today's agenda and details of pending resolutions can be found on the web at: http://www.spi-inc.org/meetings/agendas/2012/2012-04-12/
21:01:15 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; [item 2, Roll Call]
21:01:15 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; Board members, please state your name for the record.  As we have nine board members, quorum for today's meeting is six.
21:01:15 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; Guests (including board advisors), please /msg your names to Noodles if you wish your attendance to be recorded in the minutes of this meeting.
21:01:17 &amp;lt;Noodles&amp;gt; Jonathan McDowell
21:01:17 &amp;lt;Clint&amp;gt; Clint Adams
21:01:18 &amp;lt;zobel&amp;gt; Martin Zobel-Helas
21:01:19 &amp;lt;Hydroxide&amp;gt; Jimmy Kaplowitz
21:01:21 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; Bdale Garbee
21:01:21 &amp;lt;Ganneff&amp;gt; Joerg Jaspert
21:01:24 &amp;lt;Solver&amp;gt; Robert Brockway
21:01:26 &amp;lt;schultmc&amp;gt; Michael Schultheiss
21:01:50 &amp;lt;Hydroxide&amp;gt; everyone but linuxpoet
21:01:53 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; did we hear from him?
21:02:03 &amp;lt;Noodles&amp;gt; I didn't.
21:02:12 &amp;lt;Hydroxide&amp;gt; he commented laconically on the ticketing system thread, but that's it
21:02:15 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; perhaps he'll join us then, since we have quorum I will proceed
21:02:21 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; [item 3, President's Report]
21:02:21 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; My apologies to the board for my absence from our last meeting, I suffered an unanticipated airline flight delay that day.
21:02:21 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; [item 4, Treasurer's Report]
21:02:21 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; Michael?
21:02:34 &amp;lt;schultmc&amp;gt; standard report was mailed out and is in the agenda
21:02:39 &amp;lt;schultmc&amp;gt; nothing of note
21:02:57 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; any questions for Michael?  mine was already answered this morning.
21:03:09 &amp;lt;schultmc&amp;gt; although Debian did receive a large donation via credit card - the donor should be informed of lest costly donation methods
21:03:14 &amp;lt;Solver&amp;gt; bdale: yes one....
21:03:31 &amp;lt;Solver&amp;gt; schultmc: any chance to review options for bookkeeping assistance?
21:03:52 &amp;lt;schultmc&amp;gt; Solver: not yet - I'll be less busy after this weekend
21:04:04 &amp;lt;Solver&amp;gt; np thanks
21:04:11 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; great
21:04:16 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; [item 5, Secretary's report]
21:04:16 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; Jonathan?
21:04:22 &amp;lt;Noodles&amp;gt; Nothing from me.
21:04:36 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; [item 6, Outstanding minutes]
21:04:36 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; Jonathan, I believe we have last month's to vote on?
21:04:39 &amp;lt;Noodles&amp;gt; Voting started, 8 people (clint,zobel,hydroxide,bdale,ganneff,solver,schultmc,noodles) allowed to vote on Minutes for 8th March 2012 board meeting. - You may vote yes/no/abstain only, type !vote $yourchoice now.
21:04:46 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; !vote abstain
21:04:47 &amp;lt;Hydroxide&amp;gt; !vote abstain
21:04:49 &amp;lt;schultmc&amp;gt; !vote yes
21:04:50 &amp;lt;Solver&amp;gt; !vote yes
21:04:51 &amp;lt;Ganneff&amp;gt; !vote yes
21:04:54 &amp;lt;Clint&amp;gt; !vote yes
21:04:55 &amp;lt;Noodles&amp;gt; !vote yes
21:05:08 &amp;lt;zobel&amp;gt; !vote yes
21:05:17 &amp;lt;Noodles&amp;gt; Current voting results for "Minutes for 8th March 2012 board meeting": Yes: 6, No: 0, Abstain: 2, Missing: 0 ()
21:05:20 &amp;lt;Noodles&amp;gt; Voting for "Minutes for 8th March 2012 board meeting" closed.
21:05:25 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; thanks, all!
21:05:31 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; [item 7, Items up for discussion]
21:05:31 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; [item 7.1, YafaRay selling training materials]
21:05:31 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; Who wants to speak to this?
21:06:15 &amp;lt;Ganneff&amp;gt; woo, not so many at once.
21:06:15 &amp;lt;Noodles&amp;gt; I don't think I saw any serious objections to this?
21:06:16 &amp;lt;Solver&amp;gt; What was the final opinion from counsel?
21:06:20 * Hydroxide sees no problem with YafaRay selling educational, training, or documentation materials about YafaRay.
21:06:36 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; I didn't see any problem either, so wasn't sure why this was on the agenda
21:06:46 &amp;lt;Hydroxide&amp;gt; Solver: we shouldn't get to specific about the details in a public channel, due to privilege concerns. my guess is Alvaro wanted to prod us into action
21:07:03 &amp;lt;Solver&amp;gt; Hydroxide: yes good point
21:07:07 &amp;lt;Hydroxide&amp;gt; but, someone will have to handle things like collecting sales tax and verifying what needs to happen there
21:07:12 &amp;lt;Hydroxide&amp;gt; and in which jurisdictions
21:07:17 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; so is there anything for us to discuss or act on here today?
21:07:22 &amp;lt;Noodles&amp;gt; I'm guessing it may be driven from outside the US.
21:07:31 &amp;lt;Noodles&amp;gt; IIRC YafaRay are mostly in Europe.
21:07:44 &amp;lt;Noodles&amp;gt; Which may make sales tax a non issue.
21:08:02 &amp;lt;Alvaro&amp;gt; am I allowed to speak?
21:08:04 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; US sales tax, certainly
21:08:05 &amp;lt;Hydroxide&amp;gt; Noodles: if SPI is doing the sales, we can't ignore US or New York law, as a US and New York entity. we may have other jurisdictions to worry about - no idea about EU VAT myself
21:08:06 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; Alvaro: please
21:08:06 &amp;lt;Noodles&amp;gt; But aside from checking the exact nature of that I don't see a problem.
21:08:17 &amp;lt;Hydroxide&amp;gt; Noodles: none of this is a problem, someone just has to follow up on it
21:09:14 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; Alvaro: please speak if you wish
21:09:43 &amp;lt;Alvaro&amp;gt; afaik tax sales should be handled by SPI in regard to his legal address
21:10:11 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; in the US, most states only require the collection of sales tax for items sold in the same jurisdiction as the seller
21:10:16 &amp;lt;Hydroxide&amp;gt; there is probably some way to use a third-party to handle the whole sales process for us, including tax collections stuff. so the work involved might just be "find an online storefront that does that and confirm with SFLC that that meets our obligations"
21:10:37 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; I'm not 100% clear on US law, but I suspect tax only needs to be collected on sales of items to NY addresses
21:10:48 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; s/US/NY/
21:10:55 &amp;lt;Hydroxide&amp;gt; bdale: yes - but we might at least have to worry about it for New York buyers, and possibly Indiana and other buyers where we have either officers, directors, and/or significant donations or sales
21:11:19 &amp;lt;Hydroxide&amp;gt; bdale: agreed that we basically have to do it for NY unless this falls into an exception like DebConf10's activities did
21:11:32 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; wrt sales tax collection, don't make it more complicated than it needs to be is my general advice
21:11:38 &amp;lt;Hydroxide&amp;gt; yup
21:11:47 &amp;lt;Hydroxide&amp;gt; that's why I'm suggesting outsourcing that :)
21:11:53 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; ok, so I see no action for us to take today?
21:12:25 &amp;lt;Hydroxide&amp;gt; someone just has to follow up on it. no vote needed today.
21:12:32 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; I can't think of any issue outsourcing it, it shouldn't need a board resolution
21:12:36 &amp;lt;Hydroxide&amp;gt; right
21:12:44 &amp;lt;Alvaro&amp;gt; so how we should proceed when our training stuff is finished
21:12:57 &amp;lt;Hydroxide&amp;gt; Alvaro: how soon are you expecting that to be ready?
21:13:05 &amp;lt;Solver&amp;gt; Alvaro: how long until you think you will be ready?
21:13:13 * Hydroxide grins at Solver 
21:13:17 &amp;lt;Solver&amp;gt; Hydroxide: :)
21:13:23 &amp;lt;Alvaro&amp;gt; soon, within this month probably
21:13:27 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; ok
21:13:50 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; Hydroxide: did you have an particular suggestion on who to outsource to?
21:14:00 &amp;lt;Alvaro&amp;gt; do you have a tax advisor? maybe he has something to say about it
21:14:05 &amp;lt;Hydroxide&amp;gt; bdale: no. I guess I can look into it
21:14:21 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; Alvaro: no, not exactly
21:14:34 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; Hydroxide: if you would, that'd be great, then let's continue this discussion via email?
21:14:38 &amp;lt;Hydroxide&amp;gt; bdale: sure
21:14:38 &amp;lt;Solver&amp;gt; Alvaro: we discussed it with legal counsel at the time of the request but not an accountant afaik
21:14:50 &amp;lt;Alvaro&amp;gt; I see
21:14:56 &amp;lt;Solver&amp;gt; bdale: agreed
21:15:07 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; ok, I think we can wrap this for today.  Hydroxide will look for suitable out-sourcers and we can discuss on list as no resolution should be required
21:15:17 &amp;lt;Hydroxide&amp;gt; Solver: it doesn't really have tax implications for SPI so we don't need tax advice - it's more legal advice about which taxes we have to collect and pass on, and how to do that with as little effort and complication as possible :)
21:15:29 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; Alvaro: thanks for your input to the discussion, we'll look forward to working with you to do the right thing(s)
21:15:35 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; [item 7.2, Discussion of tracking system]
21:15:35 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; Robert, did you want to kick us off on this?
21:15:45 &amp;lt;Solver&amp;gt; sure....
21:15:47 &amp;lt;Alvaro&amp;gt; I am sorry that the whole matter could be a extra hassle for you but maybe it is an useful experience for other projects too
21:15:51 &amp;lt;Hydroxide&amp;gt; (that was meant for Alvaro, not Solver. /me yields the floor again)
21:15:57 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; Alvaro: no worries
21:16:03 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; it's what we're here for!
21:16:09 &amp;lt;Solver&amp;gt; There is a general concensus that a tracking system is a good idea
21:16:16 &amp;lt;Solver&amp;gt; and RT seems to be the preferred option
21:16:37 &amp;lt;Ganneff&amp;gt; im against redmine unless someone has a reason for the other features it has. which i can't see. im fine with rt, have multiple of em, its nice and easy to adapt if need be. i veto otrs as its sh*t as hell if someone plans to mention it... i think we will end up with a nice little vm just for this, so i can easily hand out rt admin access to others (including filesystem access i mean, not just the web stuff).
21:16:38 &amp;lt;Solver&amp;gt; at this stage I think we just need to confirm we will get it installed and running
21:16:46 &amp;lt;Noodles&amp;gt; Again I didn't think this really needed to be on the agenda as I thought we'd come to a decision offline.
21:17:06 &amp;lt;Solver&amp;gt; I submitted it before some discussion ensued
21:17:13 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; Ganneff: if you're ok to proceed with RT, I think the answer is "just do it"
21:17:15 &amp;lt;Noodles&amp;gt; I know.
21:17:22 &amp;lt;Noodles&amp;gt; I left it anyway so we could say yay or nay.
21:17:36 &amp;lt;Ganneff&amp;gt; bdale: sure. next week, and i guess solver wants to be on board of that train
21:17:39 &amp;lt;Noodles&amp;gt; And I think we're all saying yes to RT if sysadmin&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;spi is happy to install it.
21:17:49 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; I'm not going to call for a vote unless there's objection to "the plan"
21:17:53 &amp;lt;Solver&amp;gt; Noodles: exactly
21:18:02 * Hydroxide agrees with the above
21:18:13 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; ok, I mark this item done and we move on.  thanks, all
21:18:13 &amp;lt;Ganneff&amp;gt; we have to get up with some useful queues and groups maybe, but otherwise it will be nice and simple
21:18:21 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; [item 8, Any other business]
21:18:21 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; Do any board members have other items for discussion they would like to address briefly?
21:18:35 &amp;lt;Noodles&amp;gt; I'd like to apologise for making zero progress on membership cleanup.
21:19:01 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; I'll note in passing here that I've already proposed a SPI BOF for Debconf 12, all who plan to attend from the board are respectfully asked to include it in their plans once it gets scheduled assuming it does
21:19:06 &amp;lt;Noodles&amp;gt; Various things came up that meant I didn't have a decent chunk of time to sit down and look at the website code, though I did have a few thoughts on what I wanted to do with it.
21:19:30 &amp;lt;Noodles&amp;gt; bdale: I'm hoping to be there so will certainly attend if so.
21:19:30 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; Noodles: anything you could use help on?
21:20:11 &amp;lt;Noodles&amp;gt; I think all the discussion from last month is still relevant.
21:20:43 &amp;lt;Noodles&amp;gt; If someone else has time/inclination to jump in and suggest some changes or wants to discuss with me I'm happy for that to happen. As I said I'm not a PHP person so it's a steeper curve for me.
21:20:44 * bdale reads the minutes again
21:20:44 * Hydroxide will attend the BoF
21:21:03 &amp;lt;zobel&amp;gt; schultmc: will we meet our deadline for our annual report (IRS 990)?
21:21:11 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; I'm not exactly a PHP hack either .. but I do want to see us make progress on this.
21:21:13 &amp;lt;Clint&amp;gt; i'll try to take a look at the code before the next meeting
21:21:15 &amp;lt;schultmc&amp;gt; zobel: yes
21:21:19 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; Clint: thanks
21:21:23 &amp;lt;zobel&amp;gt; schultmc: thx
21:21:23 &amp;lt;Noodles&amp;gt; bdale: Largely I think we/I want a "I'm still interested" button/link in the members area to update an active date field in the DB.
21:21:37 &amp;lt;Noodles&amp;gt; And a vote will also update that field.
21:21:54 &amp;lt;Noodles&amp;gt; And then we can mail based on that field, and cull x weeks after the mail based on that field.
21:21:56 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; ok, that makes sense .. sound like something you can handle, Clint?
21:22:03 &amp;lt;Noodles&amp;gt; And that can all be largely automatic.
21:22:17 &amp;lt;Clint&amp;gt; probably, depending on what the db's like
21:22:33 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; ok .. let's all poke each other on IRC as needed to get this done in the next month?
21:22:43 &amp;lt;Noodles&amp;gt; So extend the members table to have that field, extend the vote script to update it, add a page/link to update it from the web interface and add a script to send out a mail with a link to the page.
21:23:09 &amp;lt;Noodles&amp;gt; I don't think it's complex, I just haven't had time to sit down and write code.
21:23:33 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; understand .. I've been pretty swamped too, but as I say this is important so let's all try to collaborate and get it done
21:23:38 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; ok, anything else?
21:23:45 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; [item 9, Next board meeting]
21:23:45 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; Our next regularly-scheduled monthly meeting would be 9 May 2012, 20:00 UTC.
21:23:45 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; Any strong objections?
21:23:47 &amp;lt;schultmc&amp;gt; I'll be at a conference the second week of May 2012.  I'd prefer moving the meeting to 2012-05-17
21:24:11 &amp;lt;Solver&amp;gt; no objections
21:24:21 * zobel will not be able to attend the next meeting
21:24:27 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; either week would be ok with me
21:24:37 &amp;lt;zobel&amp;gt; i will be on VAC whole of May.
21:24:40 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; any strong objections to the 17th?
21:24:41 &amp;lt;Noodles&amp;gt; Fine with me. I note UDS is on the second week of May. It'd be good to meet anyone who's going to be in the Bay Area for that.
21:24:58 &amp;lt;Ganneff&amp;gt; i might not be at that meeting. depends on when the babys crawling out, but its right before that...
21:25:07 &amp;lt;schultmc&amp;gt; Noodles: I'll be in the bay area for a different conference
21:25:16 &amp;lt;zobel&amp;gt; babys?!
21:25:22 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; Noodles: let's go with the 17th then, then return to normal in June, ok?
21:25:28 &amp;lt;Noodles&amp;gt; bdale: Sure.
21:25:29 &amp;lt;schultmc&amp;gt; works for me
21:25:32 &amp;lt;Ganneff&amp;gt; ahwell, minus the s. or plus a ' :)
21:25:38 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; Ok, thank you to everyone present for participating today.
21:25:38 &amp;lt;bdale&amp;gt; *GAVEL*

&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>MJ Ray</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-04-13T09:14:49</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.spi.general/1163">
    <title>*corrected* Treasurer's Report as of 2012-03-31</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.spi.general/1163</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;This report uses a cash-based method of accounting, recording donations
when deposited (not when the check was written or received by us) and
recording expenses when sent or scheduled for payment (not when
incurred).

Income Statement
for the Period March 01, 2012 - March 31, 2012

 Income
   Ordinary Income
        Arch Linux                         518.94
        DebConf 11                         270.00
        Debian                          21,965.41
        Drizzle                            100.00
        FreeDesktop.org                     25.00
        Gallery                            105.00
        LibreOffice                        141.00
        PostgreSQL                         861.00
        SPI General                        100.00
        SPI 5%                             212.87
        The HeliOS Project               1,440.00
        YafaRay Code Sprint                256.00
        YafaRay                             15.00

        Total Ordinary Income           26,010.22
                                        ---------

   Interest Income
        Key Bank Money Mkt Savings           1.45
        Chase BusinessClassic Checking       0.38
        Chase Bus Select High Yield Savings 12.01


        Total Interest Income               13.84
                                            -----

   Gross Income                         26,024.06
                                        ---------

 Expenses
  Ordinary Expenses

        Arch Linux
          Processing Fees            25.66
          SPI 5%                     25.95

          Total Arch Linux Exp       51.60
                                     -----

        DebConf 11
          Processing Fees            11.85
          SPI 5%                     13.50
          Travel Reimbursement    1,700.00

          Total DebConf 11 Exp    1,725.35
                                  --------

        Debian
          Debit Card Fee              3.00
          Hard Drives               130.00
          Portland BSP               39.53
          Processing Fees           872.62
          SPI 5%                     98.27

          Total Debian Exp        1,143.42
                                  --------

        Drizzle
          Processing Fees             4.35
          SPI 5%                      5.00

          Total Drizzle Exp           9.35
                                      ----

        freedesktop.org
          Processing Fees             1.35
          SPI 5%                      1.25

          Total fd.o Exp              2.60
                                      ----

        Gallery
          Processing Fees             3.06
          SPI 5%                      5.25

          Total Gallery Exp           8.31
                                      ----
        
        Haskell
          Hosting Fees               54.45

          Total Haskell Exp          54.45
                                     -----

        Jenkins
          Stickers                  480.00

          Total Jenkins Exp         480.00
                                    ------

        LibreOffice 
          Processing Fees             2.89
          SPI 5%                      7.05
          Travel Reimbursement    1,432.61

          Total LibreOffice Exp   1,442.55
                                  --------

        PostgreSQL
          Processing Fees            13.08
          SPI 5%                     43.05

          Total PostgreSQL Exp       56.13
                                     -----

        SPI
          PaySimple Monthly Fee      29.95
          Transaction Fees           22.38 

          Total SPI Exp              52.33
                                     -----

        The HeliOS Project
          Processing Fees            11.35
          SPI 5%                     72.00

          Total HeliOS Exp           83.35
                                     -----

        YafaRay Code Sprint
          Processing Fees            11.99
          SPI 5%                     12.80

          Total YafaRay CS Exp       24.79
                                     -----

        YafaRay
          Processing Fees             1.30
          SPI 5%                      0.75

          Total YafaRay Exp           2.05
                                      ----


        Total Expenses            5,136.28
                                  --------

        Net Income               20,887.78
                                 =========


Balance Sheet as of March 31, 2012

   ASSETS
     Current Assets
        Chase BusinessClassic Checking with Interest      62,622.19
        Chase Business Select High Yield Savings          97,670.60
        Key Business Reward Checking                     123,909.93
        Key Business Signature Money Market Savings       36,025.79
        Ameriprise Cash Mgmt Acct                         13,406.15
        Debian Debit Card                                    311.00

     Total Current Assets                                333,945.66


   TOTAL ASSETS                                          333,945.66


   LIABILITIES &amp;amp; EQUITY

     General and current liabilities                           0.00

     Equity
        Reserves held in trust
           aptosid Earmark                      100.33
           Arch Linux Earmark                 2,553.90
           Debian Earmark                    84,191.80
           DebConf 11 Earmark                29,370.59
           Drizzle                              954.10
           Fluxbox                              995.00
           Freedesktop.org Earmark           12,858.20
           FreedomBox Foundation Earmark     20,105.69
           Gallery Earmark                    7,893.99
           GNU TeXmacs Earmark                  162.90
           Haskell Earmark                   12,946.77
           Jenkins Earmark                   10,930.85
           LibreOffice Earmark               26,528.15
           madwifi-project.org Earmark        1,494.90
           OpenOffice.org Earmark            21,857.84
           OpenVAS                               45.71
           OpenWrt                            1,498.60
           Open Voting Foundation Earmark       153.65
           OSUNIX                                 0.56
           Path64                                 9.31
           Plan 9 Earmark                     6,500.00
           PostgreSQL Earmark                32,463.38
           Privoxy Earmark                      545.90
           The HeliOS Project                 1,584.47
           Tux4Kids Earmark                   8,788.85
           YafaRay Code Sprint Earmark          231.21
           YafaRay Earmark                    4,884.03

        Total held in trust                              289,650.68

        General reserves                                  44,294.98
.

     Total Equity                                        333,945.66

   TOTAL LIABILITIES &amp;amp; EQUITY                            333,945.66

&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Michael Schultheiss</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-04-12T06:00:14</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.spi.general/1162">
    <title>Treasurer's Report as of 2012-03-31</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.spi.general/1162</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;This report uses a cash-based method of accounting, recording donations
when deposited (not when the check was written or received by us) and
recording expenses when sent or scheduled for payment (not when
incurred).

Income Statement
for the Period March 01, 2012 - March 31, 2012

 Income
   Ordinary Income
        Arch Linux                         518.94
        DebConf 11                         270.00
        Debian                          21,965.41
        Drizzle                            100.00
        FreeDesktop.org                     25.00
        Gallery                            105.00
        LibreOffice                        141.00
        PostgreSQL                         861.00
        SPI General                        100.00
        SPI 5%                             212.87
        The HeliOS Project               1,440.00
        YafaRay Code Sprint                256.00
        YafaRay                             15.00

        Total Ordinary Income           26,010.22
                                        ---------

   Interest Income
        Key Bank Money Mkt Savings           1.45
        Chase BusinessClassic Checking       0.38
        Chase Bus Select High Yield Savings 12.01


        Total Interest Income               13.84
                                            -----

   Gross Income                         26,024.06
                                        ---------

 Expenses
  Ordinary Expenses

        Arch Linux
          Processing Fees            25.66
          SPI 5%                     25.95

          Total Arch Linux Exp       51.60
                                     -----

        DebConf 11
          Processing Fees            11.85
          SPI 5%                     13.50
          Travel Reimbursement    1,700.00

          Total DebConf 11 Exp    1,725.35
                                  --------

        Debian
          Debit Card Fee              3.00
          Hard Drives               130.00
          Portland BSP               39.53
          Processing Fees           872.62
          SPI 5%                     98.27

          Total Debian Exp        1,143.42
                                  --------

        Drizzle
          Processing Fees             4.35
          SPI 5%                      5.00

          Total Drizzle Exp           9.35
                                      ----

        freedesktop.org
          Processing Fees             1.35
          SPI 5%                      1.25

          Total fd.o Exp              2.60
                                      ----

        Gallery
          Processing Fees             3.06
          SPI 5%                      5.25

          Total Gallery Exp           8.31
                                      ----
        
        Haskell
          Hosting Fees               54.45

          Total Haskell Exp          54.45
                                     -----

        LibreOffice 
          Processing Fees             2.89
          SPI 5%                      7.05
          Travel Reimbursement    1,432.61

          Total LibreOffice Exp   1,442.55
                                  --------

        PostgreSQL
          Processing Fees            13.08
          SPI 5%                     43.05

          Total PostgreSQL Exp       56.13
                                     -----

        SPI
          PaySimple Monthly Fee      29.95
          Transaction Fees           22.38 

          Total SPI Exp              52.33
                                     -----

        The HeliOS Project
          Processing Fees            11.35
          SPI 5%                     72.00

          Total HeliOS Exp           83.35
                                     -----

        YafaRay Code Sprint
          Processing Fees            11.99
          SPI 5%                     12.80

          Total YafaRay CS Exp       24.79
                                     -----

        YafaRay
          Processing Fees             1.30
          SPI 5%                      0.75

          Total YafaRay Exp           2.05
                                      ----


        Total Expenses            4,656.28
                                  --------

        Net Income               21,367.78
                                 =========


Balance Sheet as of March 31, 2012

   ASSETS
     Current Assets
        Chase BusinessClassic Checking with Interest      62,622.19
        Chase Business Select High Yield Savings          97,670.60
        Key Business Reward Checking                     123,909.93
        Key Business Signature Money Market Savings       36,025.79
        Ameriprise Cash Mgmt Acct                         13,406.15
        Debian Debit Card                                    311.00

     Total Current Assets                                333,945.66


   TOTAL ASSETS                                          333,945.66


   LIABILITIES &amp;amp; EQUITY

     General and current liabilities                           0.00

     Equity
        Reserves held in trust
           aptosid Earmark                      100.33
           Arch Linux Earmark                 2,553.90
           Debian Earmark                    84,191.80
           DebConf 11 Earmark                29,370.59
           Drizzle                              954.10
           Fluxbox                              995.00
           Freedesktop.org Earmark           12,858.20
           FreedomBox Foundation Earmark     20,105.69
           Gallery Earmark                    7,893.99
           GNU TeXmacs Earmark                  162.90
           Haskell Earmark                   12,946.77
           Jenkins Earmark                   11,410.85
           LibreOffice Earmark               26,528.15
           madwifi-project.org Earmark        1,494.90
           OpenOffice.org Earmark            21,857.84
           OpenVAS                               45.71
           OpenWrt                            1,498.60
           Open Voting Foundation Earmark       153.65
           OSUNIX                                 0.56
           Path64                                 9.31
           Plan 9 Earmark                     6,500.00
           PostgreSQL Earmark                32,463.38
           Privoxy Earmark                      545.90
           The HeliOS Project                 1,584.47
           Tux4Kids Earmark                   8,788.85
           YafaRay Code Sprint Earmark          231.21
           YafaRay Earmark                    4,884.03

        Total held in trust                              290,130.68

        General reserves                                  43,814.98
.

     Total Equity                                        333,945.66

   TOTAL LIABILITIES &amp;amp; EQUITY                            333,945.66

&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Michael Schultheiss</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-04-12T03:26:48</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.spi.general/1155">
    <title>SPI Ticketting system</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.spi.general/1155</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi all.  There was a discussion recently on #SPI about using a tracking 
system to help SPI keep track of tasks.

The general concensus during the discussion was that Request Tracker (RT) 
was the preferred option as several of the people present (mostly board 
members) have quite a bit of experience with RT.

I'd certainly like us to go forward with this as soon as possible.

As well as assisting with tracking tasks it could help us set &amp;amp; monitor 
SLAs.

Jonathan, please put "Discussion of tracking system" on the agenda for the 
April 12/13 board meeting.  This will be a good opportunity to get the 
board talking about it.  I'd hope we get a general concensus and decision 
to implement.

Cheers,

Rob

&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Robert Brockway</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-04-10T04:24:18</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.spi.general/1154">
    <title>adding an item to the agenda</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.spi.general/1154</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi there


I am the liason of the YafaRay project. In the past we asked the board whether we could sell training and educative material under the umbrella of SPI, since donations does not work that great for us. In light of the advice you got from your legal advisors about performing such activities, and given the fact that we are on track about finishing such educative stuff, we would like to ask the board again whether such activities could be launched under SPI protection, and what should be the desired framework.

We are going to finish a book into spanish in PDF format (10 MG) and a training DVD-ISO file with scenes and texts in PDF format (3 GB). We are not going to sell physical items, just digital books and DVD-ISO files. Every item will be released under a creative commons license, following Blender Foundation model.


We look forward to the board answer on these regards. Greetings.

Alvaro Luna Bautista
The YafaRay Project
_______________________________________________
Spi-general mailing list
Spi-general&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;lists.spi-inc.org
http://lists.spi-inc.org/listinfo/spi-general
&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Alvaro Luna Bautista</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-04-08T19:09:45</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.spi.general/1153">
    <title>Treasurer's Report as of 2012-02-29</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.spi.general/1153</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;This report uses a cash-based method of accounting, recording donations
when deposited (not when the check was written or received by us) and
recording expenses when sent or scheduled for payment (not when
incurred).

Income Statement
for the Period February 01, 2012 - February 29, 2012

 Income
   Ordinary Income
        aptosid                              5.00
        Arch Linux                         555.00
        Debian                           1,000.00
        Drizzle                            700.00
        FreeDesktop.org                     10.00
        FreedomBox                         115.65
        Gallery                            140.00
        GNU TeXmacs                         99.90
        LibreOffice                        156.00
        madwifi-project.org                  1.00
        PostgreSQL                          10.00
        SPI General                      2,881.00
        SPI 5%                             147.13
        The HeliOS Project                  25.00
        YafaRay                            100.00

        Total Ordinary Income            5,945.68
                                         --------

   Interest Income
        Key Bank Money Mkt Savings           1.42
        Chase BusinessClassic Checking       0.30
        Chase Bus Select High Yield Savings 11.61


        Total Interest Income               13.33
                                            -----

   Gross Income                          5,959.01
                                         --------

 Expenses
  Ordinary Expenses

        aptosid
          Processing Fees             0.55
          SPI 5%                      0.25

          Total aptosid Exp           0.80
                                      ----
       
        Arch Linux
          Processing Fees            25.35
          SPI 5%                     27.75

          Total Arch Linux Exp       53.10
                                     -----

        Debian
          Debit Card Fee              3.00
          Processing Fees            47.35
          SPI 5%                     50.00

          Total Debian Exp          100.35
                                    ------

        Drizzle
          Processing Fees            28.35
          SPI 5%                     35.00

          Total Drizzle Exp          63.35
                                     -----

        Fluxbox
          Travel Reimbursement
            (GSoC)                  674.85

          Total Fluxbox Exp         674.85
                                    ------

        freedesktop.org
          Processing Fees             0.75
          SPI 5%                      0.50

          Total fd.o Exp              1.25
                                      ----

        FreedomBox
          Processing Fees             4.18
          SPI 5%                      5.78

          Total FreedomBox Exp        9.96
                                      ----

        Gallery
          Processing Fees             4.20
          SPI 5%                      7.00

          Total Gallery Exp          11.20
                                     -----
        
        GNU TeXmacs
          Processing Fees             4.35
          SPI 5%                      5.00

          Total GNU TeXmacs Exp       9.35
                                      ----

        LibreOffice 
          Processing Fees             7.64
          SPI 5%                      7.80

          Total LibreOffice Exp      15.44
                                     -----

        madwifi-project.org
          Processing Fees             0.39
          SPI 5%                      0.05

          Total MadWifi Exp           0.44
                                      ----

        PostgreSQL
          Processing Fees             0.75
          SPI 5%                      0.50

          Total PostgreSQL Exp        1.25
                                      ----

        SPI
          PaySimple Monthly Fee      29.95
          PO Box Renewal             86.00
          Transaction Fees           36.07 

          Total SPI Exp             152.02
                                    ------

        The HeliOS Project
          Processing Fees             1.35
          SPI 5%                      1.25

          Total HeliOS Exp            2.60
                                      ----

        YafaRay
          Processing Fees             4.35
          SPI 5%                      5.00

          Total YafaRay Exp           9.35
                                      ----


        Total Expenses            1,105.31
                                  --------

        Net Income                4,853.70
                                  ========


Balance Sheet as of February 29, 2012

   ASSETS
     Current Assets
        Chase BusinessClassic Checking with Interest      40,055.59
        Chase Business Select High Yield Savings          97,658.59
        Key Business Reward Checking                     125,172.71
        Key Business Signature Money Market Savings       36,024.34
        Ameriprise Cash Mgmt Acct                         13,406.15
        Debian Debit Card                                    314.00

     Total Current Assets                                312,631.38


   TOTAL ASSETS                                          312,631.38


   LIABILITIES &amp;amp; EQUITY

     General and current liabilities                           0.00

     Equity
        Reserves held in trust
           aptosid Earmark                      100.33
           Arch Linux Earmark                 2,086.56
           Debian Earmark                    63,369.81
           DebConf 11 Earmark                30,825.94
           Drizzle                              863.45
           Fluxbox                              995.00
           Freedesktop.org Earmark           12,835.80
           FreedomBox Foundation Earmark     20,105.69
           Gallery Earmark                    7,797.30
           GNU TeXmacs Earmark                  162.90
           Haskell Earmark                   13,001.22
           Jenkins Earmark                   11,410.85
           LibreOffice Earmark               27,829.70
           madwifi-project.org Earmark        1,494.90
           OpenOffice.org Earmark            21,857.84
           OpenVAS                               45.71
           OpenWrt                            1,498.60
           Open Voting Foundation Earmark       153.65
           OSUNIX                                 0.56
           Path64                                 9.31
           Plan 9 Earmark                     6,500.00
           PostgreSQL Earmark                31,658.51
           Privoxy Earmark                      545.90
           The HeliOS Project                   227.82
           Tux4Kids Earmark                   8,788.85
           YafaRay Earmark                    4,871.08

        Total held in trust                              269,037.28

        General reserves                                  43,594.10
.

     Total Equity                                        312,631.38

   TOTAL LIABILITIES &amp;amp; EQUITY                            312,631.38

&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Michael Schultheiss</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-03-08T20:55:50</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.spi.general/1150">
    <title>Preparing for a contributing membership ping</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.spi.general/1150</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;As per 2009-11-04.jmd.1 (Contributing membership expiry) I'm preparing
to send out an initial ping to all contributing members who did not vote
in the last board election. That covers 378 individuals. In an ideal
world we'd have the SPI members app provide an "I'm still active" button
as a response, but for this first pass I think it's going to be easier
to script a bunch of mails and then process responses manually.

How about the following as the ping mail:

-----
Subject: SPI contributing membership ping

SPI membership ref: [n]

Hi.

As per SPI resolution 2009-11-04.jmd.1 (Contributing membership
expiry)[0] we are in the process of cleaning up the SPI active membership
list. Our records indicate that you did not vote in the SPI Board
Election held in July 2011. We use board election turnout as an
indicator of SPI activit. As a result if we do not hear otherwise from
you within 4 weeks of this mail being sent we will deem you inactive and
downgrade your SPI membership to non-contributing status.

Please note that any sure downgrade will not preclude you restoring your
contributing membership status at a later date.

[0] http://www.spi-inc.org/corporate/resolutions/2009/2009-11-04.jmd.1/
-----

I feel we probably want some extra fluff there, but I'm not entirely
sure what to provide. Is it worth mentioning we're hoping to do some
by-law changes so it's important to have an up to date membership list
perhaps?

J.

&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Jonathan McDowell</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-03-01T04:35:35</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.spi.general/1149">
    <title>Treasurer's Report as of 2012-01-31</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.spi.general/1149</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;This report uses a cash-based method of accounting, recording donations
when deposited (not when the check was written or received by us) and
recording expenses when sent or scheduled for payment (not when
incurred).

Income Statement
for the Period January 01, 2012 - January 31, 2012

 Income
   Ordinary Income
        Arch Linux                         367.00
        Debian                           2,155.00
        Drizzle                            150.00
        Haskell                         13,001.22
        Jenkins                            175.00
        LibreOffice                         60.00
        madwifi-project.org                 20.00
        OpenWrt                            550.00
        PostgreSQL                          50.00
        SPI General                      5,780.29
        SPI 5%                             197.10
        The HeliOS Project                 395.00
        YafaRay                             20.00

        Total Ordinary Income           22,905.96
                                        ---------

   Interest Income
        Key Bank Money Mkt Savings           1.53
        Chase BusinessClassic Checking       0.31
        Chase Bus Select High Yield Savings 12.81


        Total Interest Income               14.65
                                            -----

   Gross Income                         22,920.61
                                        ---------

 Expenses
  Ordinary Expenses

        Arch Linux
          Processing Fees            19.93
          SPI 5%                     18.35

          Total Arch Linux Exp       38.28
                                     -----


        Debian
          Processing Fees            46.13
          SPI 5%                    107.75
          Travel Reimbursement
            (GSoC)                1,952.55
          Travel Reimbursement
            (DC11 - DC Newbies)   1,164.72

          Total Debian Exp        3,271.15
                                  --------

        Drizzle
          Processing Fees             6.35
          SPI 5%                      7.50

          Total Drizzle Exp          13.85
                                     -----

        freedesktop.org
          OpenICC reg fee           250.00

          Total fd.o Exp            250.00
                                    ------

        Jenkins
          Processing Fees             8.05
          SPI 5%                      8.75

          Total Jenkins Exp          16.80
                                     -----

        LibreOffice 
          Conference Fees        13,034.58
          Processing Fees             3.10
          SPI 5%                      3.00
          Travel Reimbursement    1,275.25

          Total LibreOffice Exp  14,315.93
                                 ---------

        madwifi-project.org
          Processing Fees             1.15
          SPI 5%                      1.00

          Total MadWifi Exp           2.15
                                      ----

        OpenWrt
          Processing Fees            22.70
          SPI 5%                     27.50

          Total OpenWrt Exp          50.20
                                     -----

        PostgreSQL
          Legal Fees                985.80
          Processing Fees             1.83
          SPI 5%                      2.50
          Transaction Fees            9.86

          Total PostgreSQL Exp      999.99
                                    ------

        SPI
          PaySimple Monthly Fee      29.95
          Transaction Fees            6.60 

          Total SPI Exp              36.55
                                     -----

        The HeliOS Project
          Expense Reimbursement   1,242.01
          Processing Fees            13.20
          SPI 5%                     19.75

          Total HeliOS Exp        1,274.96
                                  --------

        YafaRay
          Processing Fees             1.15
          SPI 5%                      1.00

          Total YafaRay Exp           2.15
                                      ----


        Total Expenses           20,272.01
                                 ---------

        Net Income                2,648.60
                                  ========


Balance Sheet as of January 31, 2012

   ASSETS
     Current Assets
        Chase BusinessClassic Checking with Interest      37,531.31
        Chase Business Select High Yield Savings          97,646.98
        Key Business Reward Checking                     123,217.24
        Key Business Signature Money Market Savings       36,022.92
        Ameriprise Cash Mgmt Acct                         13,406.15
        Debian Debit Card                                    317.00

     Total Current Assets                                308,141.60


   TOTAL ASSETS                                          308,141.60


   LIABILITIES &amp;amp; EQUITY

     General and current liabilities                           0.00

     Equity
        Reserves held in trust
           aptosid Earmark                       96.13
           Arch Linux Earmark                 1,584.66
           Debian Earmark                    62,470.16
           DebConf 11 Earmark                30,825.94
           Drizzle                              226.80
           Fluxbox                            1,669.85
           Freedesktop.org Earmark           12,827.05
           FreedomBox Foundation Earmark     20,000.00
           Gallery Earmark                    7,668.50
           GNU TeXmacs Earmark                   72.35
           Haskell Earmark                   13,001.22
           Jenkins Earmark                   11,410.85
           LibreOffice Earmark               27,689.14
           madwifi-project.org Earmark        1,494.34
           OpenOffice.org Earmark            21,857.84
           OpenVAS                               45.71
           OpenWrt                            1,498.60
           Open Voting Foundation Earmark       153.65
           OSUNIX                                 0.56
           Path64                                 9.31
           Plan 9 Earmark                     6,500.00
           PostgreSQL Earmark                31,649.76
           Privoxy Earmark                      545.90
           The HeliOS Project                   205.42
           Tux4Kids Earmark                   8,788.85
           YafaRay Earmark                    4,780.43

        Total held in trust                              267,073.02

        General reserves                                  41,068.58
.

     Total Equity                                        308,141.60

   TOTAL LIABILITIES &amp;amp; EQUITY                            308,141.60

&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Michael Schultheiss</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-02-09T20:57:07</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.spi.general/1144">
    <title>Forms 990 and 1023 for SPI</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.spi.general/1144</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;I've been reading the 2010 form 990 for SPI (from guidestar) and
noticed that you claim that your forms (990, 1023, etc) are available
on the SPI web site.  Unfortunately, as far as I can tell, they
aren't.  Could you consider creating a page under
http://spi-inc.org/corporate/ with those forms?

While searching on the SPI web site, I found an IRC log from 2008
indicating that someone requested the 1023 and that Michael
Schultheiss was going to request a copy from the IRS.

I also found one 990 on the old SPI page [1] but I couldn't find
all.  It would be great if you could create one central location on
the new web site with these forms.  Thanks a lot.

[1] http://oldwww.spi-inc.org/treasurer/soft0208.pdf.1

&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Martin Michlmayr</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-02-09T07:43:06</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.spi.general/1134">
    <title>Agenda item for February SPI board meeting</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.spi.general/1134</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Jonathan, please add the item "Discussion of back office support" to the 
February meeting agenda.  I believe this should fall within general 
business but don't mind if you put it in another category.

My intention here is for the board to discuss this topic, not to make any 
firm decisions during this board meeting.

There is no need to post any of the material below in to the meeting 
announcement.

CC:ed to spi-general so the community can discuss.

There have been informal discussions within SPI for a while about 
acquiring assistance for the day to day operations of SPI to improve 
service delivery to projects.  This is especially important considering 
that the number of associated projects has been increasing recently and 
all indications are that this is going to continue.

Two possible approaches to obtaining back office support are discussed 
here.  This discussion does not exclude the possibility that other options 
exist.

(1) Using a back office company

Numerous companies (in the US and elsewhere) provide back office support 
services.  A concern here would be obtaining a package that fitted with 
SPI's needs and was within SPI's budget.

(2) Hiring a part-time employee

Another option is to hire an office assistant on a part-time basis.  The 
office assistant could work for however many hours per week that was 
agreed with the SPI secretary (subject to upper limits set by the board). 
We may find, for example, that we only need an office assistant to work 
for 4 hours per week to achieve our aims.  The hourly rate of someone 
performing this task is likely to be quite modest.

I envision that this office assistant would report to the Secretary and
principally provide support for the Secretary and Treasurer.

An arrangement like this would ideally operate with limited commitment on 
either SPI or the office assistant to minimise liability and costs.

I expect that the work could generally be done by someone working from
home but it may make sense for the office assistant to be based close to
the treasurer or secretary for practical reasons.  The office assistant 
would probably view this work as a suppliment to their normal income.

A similar arrangement has been maintained by SAGE-AU 
(http://www.sage-au.org.au) in Australia for many years.

Any such arrangement would need to be consistent with relevant US federal 
and state labor laws and would need to be discussed with SPI counsel.

Selection criteria could cover regular office assistant skills, as well as 
knowledge of FOSS principles.

There are some of my thoughts on the topic.  Comments encouraged.

Cheers,

Rob

&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Robert Brockway</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-02-05T01:56:09</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.spi.general/1132">
    <title>Proposed website changes</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.spi.general/1132</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi all.  I find it slightly annoying that the index page requires the 
person to click 'Read more' to see much information.

I propose merging the 'About' page in to the Index (Home) page and having 
it readable without having to click 'Read more'.

Normally I wouldn't bother posting about changes to the website but this 
is fairly significant and involves the index so be sure to hollar if you 
disagree.

I also plan to add a 'History' page.

Cheers,

Rob

&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Robert Brockway</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-01-13T09:07:59</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.spi.general/1131">
    <title>Changes made to the membership of the SPI board list</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.spi.general/1131</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Following discussions with legal counsel and the contributing members over 
the last couple of months the board agreed today to alter the criteria for 
board list membership.

The board list is now comprised of board members only.  Legal counsel and 
project liaisons will be CC:ed on board list discussions as required.

As a result of this change more discussion will shift to spi-general and 
spi-private.

Thanks,

Rob

&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Robert Brockway</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-01-12T22:22:51</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.spi.general/1130">
    <title>Treasurer's Report as of 2011-12-31</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.spi.general/1130</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;This report uses a cash-based method of accounting, recording donations
when deposited (not when the check was written or received by us) and
recording expenses when sent or scheduled for payment (not when
incurred).

Income Statement
for the Period December 01, 2011 - December 31, 2011

 Income
   Ordinary Income
        Arch Linux                       1,105.00
        DebConf 11                          10.00
        Debian                           9,996.42
        Drizzle                            100.00
        Fluxbox                          1,669.85
        freedesktop.org                    225.00
        Gallery                             60.00
        Jenkins                          8,666.10
        LibreOffice                     27,365.00
        madwifi-project.org                 25.00
        OpenOffice.org                     245.00
        OpenWrt                             20.00
        PostgreSQL                       4,620.00
        Privoxy                            100.00
        SPI General                      2,311.00
        SPI 5%                             924.66
        The HeliOS Project               1,003.81

        Total Ordinary Income           58,446.84
                                        ---------

   Interest Income
        Key Bank Money Mkt Savings           1.53
        Chase BusinessClassic Checking       0.21
        Chase Bus Select High Yield Savings 12.01


        Total Interest Income               13.75
                                            -----

   Gross Income                         58,460.59
                                        ---------

 Expenses
  Ordinary Expenses

        Arch Linux
          Processing Fees            52.25
          SPI 5%                     55.25

          Total Arch Linux Exp      107.50
                                    ------

        DebConf 11
          Processing Fees             0.75
          SPI 5%                      0.50
          Travel Reimbursement    1,431.00

          Total DC11 Exp          1,432.25
                                  --------

        Debian
          Processing Fees           154.13
          SPI 5%                    201.16
          VISA Debit Card             3.00

          Total Debian Exp          358.29
                                    ------

        Drizzle
          Processing Fees             4.35
          SPI 5%                      5.00

          Total Drizzle Exp           9.35
                                      ----

        freedesktop.org
          Processing Fees             6.70
          SPI 5%                      7.50

          Total fd.o Exp             14.20
                                     -----

        Gallery
          Processing Fees             2.05
          SPI 5%                      3.00

          Total Gallery Exp           5.05
                                      ----
        
        Jenkins
          Processing Fees           372.54
          SPI 5%                    433.31
          Trademark Registration    550.00

          Total Jenkins Exp       1,355.85
                                  --------

        LibreOffice 
          Processing Fees            79.50
          SPI 5%                     93.25

          Total LibreOffice Exp     172.75
                                    ------

        madwifi-project.org
          Processing Fees             1.35
          SPI 5%                      1.25

          Total MadWifi Exp           2.60
                                      ----

        OpenOffice.org
          Processing Fees            11.55
          SPI 5%                     12.25

          Total OO.o Exp             23.80
                                     -----

        OpenWrt
          Processing Fees             1.15
          SPI 5%                      1.00

          Total OpenWrt Exp           2.15
                                      ----

        PostgreSQL
          Processing Fees            28.53
          SPI 5%                     56.00

          Total PostgreSQL Exp       84.53
                                     -----

        Privoxy
          Processing Fees             4.35
          SPI 5%                      5.00

          Total Privoxy Exp           9.35
                                      ----

        SPI
          PaySimple Monthly Fee      29.95
          Transaction Fees           46.29 

          Total SPI Exp              44.41
                                     -----

        The HeliOS Project
          Expense Reimbursement     429.25
          Processing Fees            27.60
          SPI 5%                     50.19

          Total HeliOS Exp          507.04
                                    ------


        Total Expenses            5,557.83
                                  --------

        Net Income               19,782.23
                                 =========


Balance Sheet as of December 31, 2011

   ASSETS
     Current Assets
        Chase BusinessClassic Checking with Interest      31,976.85
        Chase Business Select High Yield Savings          97,634.17
        Key Business Reward Checking                     126,137.44
        Key Business Signature Money Market Savings       36,021.39
        Ameriprise Cash Mgmt Acct                         13,406.15
        Debian Debit Card                                    317.00

     Total Current Assets                                305,493.00


   TOTAL ASSETS                                          305,493.00


   LIABILITIES &amp;amp; EQUITY

     General and current liabilities                           0.00

     Equity
        Reserves held in trust
           aptosid Earmark                       96.13
           Arch Linux Earmark                 1,255.94
           Debian Earmark                    63,586.31
           DebConf 11 Earmark                30,825.94
           Drizzle                               90.65
           Fluxbox                            1,669.85
           Freedesktop.org Earmark           13,077.05
           FreedomBox Foundation Earmark     20,000.00
           Gallery Earmark                    7,668.50
           GNU TeXmacs Earmark                   72.35
           Jenkins Earmark                   11,252.65
           LibreOffice Earmark               41,945.07
           Madwifi.org Earmark                1,476.49
           OpenOffice.org Earmark            21,857.84
           OpenVAS                               45.71
           OpenWrt                              998.80
           Open Voting Foundation Earmark       153.65
           OSUNIX                                 0.56
           Path64                                 9.31
           Plan 9 Earmark                     6,500.00
           PostgreSQL Earmark                32,599.75
           Privoxy Earmark                      545.90
           The HeliOS Project                 1,085.38
           Tux4Kids Earmark                   8,788.85
           YafaRay Earmark                    4,762.58

        Total held in trust                              270,365.26

        General reserves                                  35,127.74
.

     Total Equity                                        305,493.00

   TOTAL LIABILITIES &amp;amp; EQUITY                            305,493.00

&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Michael Schultheiss</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-01-12T19:01:37</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.spi.general/1129">
    <title>Welcome to Haskell.org</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.spi.general/1129</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;I'd like to welcome haskell.org (our newest associated project) to SPI.

http://www.spi-inc.org/projects/haskell/

I'd encourage active Haskell.org contributors to apply for contributing
membership so that they can play an active role within SPI.

Cheers,

Rob

&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Robert Brockway</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2011-12-30T04:13:54</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.spi.general/1123">
    <title>associated projects selling training material</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.spi.general/1123</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi there

I'm the liason of the YafaRay project. Our project is rather small although we have a relatively broad user base.
We are doing about 7.000 downloads a month.


However, the fact is that donations does not work for us. it is more dificult for desktop software to get support from the big guys. 

This is not a big issue for a project with small needs, but our project faces now critical times and we would like to organise a first "code sprint" to get together and strengthen
our bonds.

Selling training material would be an option for us. We are not sure whether is going to work but at least we would like to try.

We would like to ask whether we can still use SPI protection for the money raised by those sales and how to accommodate a checkout process
from an e-shop within the current "click &amp;amp; pledge" framework. I don't believe it can be done.

For instance, can we use Amazon Payments or Paypal under our responsabily but draw funds from those and get them directly to our SPI account?

Thank you for your comments on these regards. Greetings

Alvaro_______________________________________________
Spi-general mailing list
Spi-general&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;lists.spi-inc.org
http://lists.spi-inc.org/listinfo/spi-general
&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Alvaro Luna Bautista</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2011-12-20T09:57:03</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.spi.general/1122">
    <title>Meeting log of 2011-12-15</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.spi.general/1122</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;TIMED LOG:

[item 1, Opening] 
&amp;lt;Ganneff&amp;gt; Welcome to today's Software in the Public Interest board of
directors meeting, which is now called to order.  Today's agenda and
details of pending resolutions can be found on the web at:
http://www.spi-inc.org/meetings/agendas/2011/2011-12-15/

[item 2, Roll Call]
21:00:11 &amp;lt;Clint&amp;gt; Clint Adams
21:00:11 &amp;lt;schultmc&amp;gt; Michael Schultheiss
21:00:15 &amp;lt;Ganneff&amp;gt; Joerg Jaspert
21:00:16 &amp;lt;Solver&amp;gt; Robert Brockway
21:00:16 &amp;lt;Noodles&amp;gt; Jonathan McDowell
21:00:17 &amp;lt;zobel&amp;gt; Martin Zobel-Helas
21:02:50 &amp;lt;Hydroxide&amp;gt; Jimmy Kaplowitz

[item 3, President's Report]
&amp;lt;Ganneff&amp;gt; Agenda looks like there is none, and Bdale is out anyways, so next

[item 4, Treasurer's Report]
&amp;lt;schultmc&amp;gt; Standard report is in the agenda - nothing further to report

[item 5, Secretary's report]
&amp;lt;Noodles&amp;gt; Nothing from me.

[item 6, Outstanding minutes]
voting results for "Minutes for Wednesday, 9th November 2011": Yes: 6, Abstain: 1

[item 7, Stuff for discussion]
voting results for "Resolution 2011-12-11.rtb.1 (Haskell.org as an SPI Associated Project)": Yes: 7

[item 8, AOB]
&amp;lt;Solver&amp;gt; Any other Americans want to take look at the D&amp;amp;O?
&amp;lt;Ganneff&amp;gt; hrm. looks like it stays with jimmy for the time

[item 9, Next board meeting]
Next board meeting: Thursday, 12th January, 2012, 21:00 UTC


TIMED LOG:

21:00:02 &amp;lt;Ganneff&amp;gt; *BANG*
21:00:02 &amp;lt;Ganneff&amp;gt; [item 1, Opening] Welcome to today's Software in the Public Interest board of directors meeting, which is now called to order.
21:00:02 &amp;lt;Ganneff&amp;gt; Today's agenda and details of pending resolutions can be found on the web at: http://www.spi-inc.org/meetings/agendas/2011/2011-12-15/
21:00:02 &amp;lt;Ganneff&amp;gt; [item 2, Roll Call]
21:00:02 &amp;lt;Ganneff&amp;gt; Board members, please state your name for the record.  As we have nine board members, quorum for today's meeting is six. Guests (including board advisors), please /msg your names to Noodles if you wish your attendance to be recorded in the minutes of this meeting.
21:00:02 &amp;lt;Ganneff&amp;gt; Noodles: any regrets?
21:00:11 &amp;lt;Clint&amp;gt; Clint Adams
21:00:11 &amp;lt;schultmc&amp;gt; Michael Schultheiss
21:00:15 &amp;lt;Ganneff&amp;gt; Joerg Jaspert
21:00:16 &amp;lt;Solver&amp;gt; Robert Brockway
21:00:16 &amp;lt;Noodles&amp;gt; Jonathan McDowell
21:00:17 &amp;lt;zobel&amp;gt; Martin Zobel-Helas
21:00:25 &amp;lt;Noodles&amp;gt; Potential regrets from bdale which I'm guessing apply.
21:00:37 &amp;lt;Ganneff&amp;gt; quorum reached. nownow, Hydroxide?
21:01:34 &amp;lt;Ganneff&amp;gt; ohwell
21:01:36 &amp;lt;Ganneff&amp;gt; [item 3, President's Report]
21:01:36 &amp;lt;Ganneff&amp;gt; Agenda looks like there is none, and Bdale is out anyways, so next
21:01:36 &amp;lt;Ganneff&amp;gt; [item 4, Treasurer's Report]
21:01:36 &amp;lt;Ganneff&amp;gt; Thats for Michael
21:01:51 &amp;lt;schultmc&amp;gt; Standard report is in the agenda - nothing further to report
21:01:58 &amp;lt;Ganneff&amp;gt; any questions?
21:02:18 &amp;lt;Ganneff&amp;gt; [item 5, Secretary's report]
21:02:18 &amp;lt;Ganneff&amp;gt; Jonathan?
21:02:25 &amp;lt;Noodles&amp;gt; Nothing from me.
21:02:43 &amp;lt;Ganneff&amp;gt; [item 6, Outstanding minutes]
21:02:43 &amp;lt;Ganneff&amp;gt; Noodles: I think we have one set to vote on?
21:02:48 &amp;lt;Noodles&amp;gt; Yup, from last month.
21:02:50 &amp;lt;Hydroxide&amp;gt; Jimmy Kaplowitz
21:02:53 &amp;lt;Ganneff&amp;gt; lets go
21:02:54 &amp;lt;Hydroxide&amp;gt; computer froze at exactly the wrong time
21:02:56 &amp;lt;Ganneff&amp;gt; and a hydro
21:03:16 &amp;lt;zobel&amp;gt; lets vote
21:03:22 &amp;lt;Noodles&amp;gt; Voting started, 7 people (clint,ganneff,hydroxide,noodles,schultmc,solver,zobel) allowed to vote on Minutes for Wednesday, 9th November 2011. - You may vote yes/no/abstain only, type !vote $yourchoice now.
21:03:24 &amp;lt;schultmc&amp;gt; !vote yes
21:03:25 &amp;lt;Clint&amp;gt; !vote yes
21:03:25 &amp;lt;Ganneff&amp;gt; !vote yes
21:03:26 &amp;lt;Hydroxide&amp;gt; !vote abstain
21:03:28 &amp;lt;zobel&amp;gt; !vote yes
21:03:30 &amp;lt;Noodles&amp;gt; Patience! It's a pain to type the start command.
21:03:30 &amp;lt;Solver&amp;gt; !vote yes
21:03:34 &amp;lt;Noodles&amp;gt; !vote yes
21:03:44 &amp;lt;Noodles&amp;gt; Current voting results for "Minutes for Wednesday, 9th November 2011": Yes: 6, No: 0, Abstain: 1, Missing: 0 ()
21:03:47 &amp;lt;Noodles&amp;gt; Voting for "Minutes for Wednesday, 9th November 2011" closed.
21:03:51 &amp;lt;Ganneff&amp;gt; Noodles: send me the script once please (yeayeah its mine, i know, but...)
21:03:55 &amp;lt;Ganneff&amp;gt; [item 7, Stuff for discussion]
21:03:55 &amp;lt;Ganneff&amp;gt; This looks like the Haskell.org resolution. Noodles?
21:04:12 &amp;lt;Noodles&amp;gt; Seems fairly straightforward to me. Can we move to voting?
21:04:17 &amp;lt;Ganneff&amp;gt; go from me
21:04:18 &amp;lt;zobel&amp;gt; ack
21:04:20 &amp;lt;Hydroxide&amp;gt; let's vote
21:04:21 &amp;lt;Solver&amp;gt; I'm happy to proceed with voting
21:04:36 &amp;lt;Noodles&amp;gt; Voting started, 7 people (clint,ganneff,hydroxide,noodles,schultmc,solver,zobel) allowed to vote on Resolution 2011-12-11.rtb.1 (Haskell.org as an SPI Associated Project). - You may vote yes/no/abstain only, type !vote $yourchoice now.
21:04:38 &amp;lt;Clint&amp;gt; !vote yes
21:04:39 &amp;lt;zobel&amp;gt; !vote yes
21:04:39 &amp;lt;Hydroxide&amp;gt; do we have the liaison present here? would be good to get acceptance done immediately post-vote if so
21:04:39 &amp;lt;schultmc&amp;gt; !vote yes
21:04:40 &amp;lt;Ganneff&amp;gt; !vote yes
21:04:42 &amp;lt;Solver&amp;gt; !vote yes
21:04:42 &amp;lt;Hydroxide&amp;gt; !vote yes
21:04:42 &amp;lt;Noodles&amp;gt; !vote yes
21:04:47 &amp;lt;Clint&amp;gt; Heffalump: around?
21:04:49 &amp;lt;Noodles&amp;gt; Hydroxide: Heffalump is here.
21:04:54 &amp;lt;Heffalump&amp;gt; I'm here, but I'd rather we confirm with the cmomunity for sure before we do accept.
21:05:02 &amp;lt;Ganneff&amp;gt; thats fine
21:05:04 &amp;lt;Noodles&amp;gt; Current voting results for "Resolution 2011-12-11.rtb.1 (Haskell.org as an SPI Associated Project)": Yes: 7, No: 0, Abstain: 0, Missing: 0 ()
21:05:05 &amp;lt;Heffalump&amp;gt; it's very unlikely that they'd object, but it's a bit more transparent/open
21:05:06 &amp;lt;Hydroxide&amp;gt; Heffalump: that's fine. you have the 60 days as usual
21:05:06 &amp;lt;Noodles&amp;gt; Voting for "Resolution 2011-12-11.rtb.1 (Haskell.org as an SPI Associated Project)" closed.
21:05:22 &amp;lt;Heffalump&amp;gt; thank you very much, on behalf of the committee!
21:05:39 &amp;lt;Ganneff&amp;gt; right. formal mail on it later, i think? 
21:05:40 &amp;lt;Noodles&amp;gt; Heffalump: Email secretary&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;spi-inc.org when you accept, with a logo and some blurb for the /projects/ page.
21:05:49 &amp;lt;Heffalump&amp;gt; and we look forward to joining.
21:05:51 &amp;lt;Ganneff&amp;gt; ah, or well, just like this. hehe.
21:05:55 &amp;lt;Hydroxide&amp;gt; great
21:06:01 &amp;lt;Ganneff&amp;gt; right, next then, we are fast today.
21:06:06 &amp;lt;Ganneff&amp;gt; [item 8, AOB]
21:06:06 &amp;lt;Ganneff&amp;gt; Anyone anything?
21:06:25 &amp;lt;Noodles&amp;gt; Not from me.
21:06:27 &amp;lt;Ganneff&amp;gt; ill give a minute, then go on if nothing
21:06:34 &amp;lt;zobel&amp;gt; not from me
21:06:38 &amp;lt;Solver&amp;gt; Any other Americans want to take look at the D&amp;amp;O?
21:07:29 &amp;lt;Ganneff&amp;gt; hrm. looks like it stays with jimmy for th/bin/sed: can't read .bip/logs/2011-12-15/*private*: No such file or directory
e time
21:07:33 &amp;lt;Ganneff&amp;gt; [item 9, Next board meeting]
21:07:33 &amp;lt;Ganneff&amp;gt; Next board meeting: Thursday, 12th January, 2012, 21:00 UTC
21:07:33 - Ganneff!~joerg&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;ganneff.chair.oftc.net changed topic of #spi to: http://www.spi-inc.org/ | Next board meeting Thursday, 12th January, 2012, 21:00 UTC (aka `date -d &amp;lt; at &amp;gt;1326402000`)
21:07:50 &amp;lt;zobel&amp;gt; 7.5 min
21:07:53 &amp;lt;Ganneff&amp;gt; and so, thanks.
21:07:54 &amp;lt;Ganneff&amp;gt; *GAVEL*

Hope that informs,
&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>MJ Ray</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2011-12-16T12:07:51</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.spi.general/1121">
    <title>Treasurer's Report as of 2011-11-30</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.spi.general/1121</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;This report uses a cash-based method of accounting, recording donations
when deposited (not when the check was written or received by us) and
recording expenses when sent or scheduled for payment (not when
incurred).

Income Statement
for the Period November 01, 2011 - November 30, 2011

 Income
   Ordinary Income
        aptosid                             16.00
        Arch Linux                         289.00
        DebConf 11                          10.00
        Debian                             672.00
        freedesktop.org                     10.00
        FreedomBox Foundation           20,000.00
        Gallery                            100.00
        GNU TeXmacs                         10.00
        LibreOffice                      3,027.00
        PostgreSQL                         217.00
        SPI General                        297.00
        SPI 5%                             239.50
        The HeliOS Project                 433.95
        Yafaray                              5.00

        Total Ordinary Income           25,326.45
                                        ---------

   Interest Income
        Key Bank Money Mkt Savings           1.48
        Chase BusinessClassic Checking       0.12
        Chase Bus Select High Yield Savings 12.01


        Total Interest Income               13.61
                                            -----

   Gross Income                         25,340.06
                                        ---------

 Expenses
  Ordinary Expenses

        aptosid
          Processing Fees             1.69
          SPI 5%                      0.80

          Total aptosid Exp           2.49
                                      ----

        Arch Linux
          Processing Fees            16.11
          SPI 5%                     14.45

          Total Arch Linux Exp       30.56
                                     -----

        DebConf 11
          Processing Fees             0.75
          SPI 5%                      0.50

          Total DC11 Exp              1.25
                                      ----

        Debian
          Processing Fees            21.43
          SPI 5%                     33.60
          Travel (DC11 GSoC)      1,306.85
          Travel (GSoC)             547.40

          Total Debian Exp        1,909.28
                                  --------

        
        freedesktop.org
          Processing Fees             1.10
          SPI 5%                      0.50

          Total fd.o Exp              1.60
                                      ----

        Gallery
          Processing Fees             2.85
          SPI 5%                      5.00

          Total Gallery Exp           7.85
                                      ----

        GNU TeXmacs
          Processing Fees             0.75
          SPI 5%                      0.50

          Total GNU TeXmacs Exp       1.25
                                      ----

        LibreOffice 
          Processing Fees           122.83
          SPI 5%                    151.35

          Total LibreOffice Exp     274.18
                                    ------

        PostgreSQL
          Legal Fees              3,199.93
          Processing Fees             8.75
          Transaction Fees           31.99
          SPI 5%                     10.85

          Total PostgreSQL Exp    3,251.52
                                  --------

        SPI
          PaySimple Monthly Fee      29.95
          Transaction Fees           14.46 

          Total SPI Exp              44.41
                                     -----

        The HeliOS Project
          Processing Fees            10.94
          SPI 5%                     21.70

          Total HeliOS Exp           32.64
                                     -----

        Yafaray
          Processing Fees             0.55
          SPI 5%                      0.25

          Total Yafaray Exp           0.80
                                      ----


        Total Expenses            5,557.83
                                  --------

        Net Income               19,782.23
                                 =========


Balance Sheet as of November 30, 2011

   ASSETS
     Current Assets
        Chase BusinessClassic Checking with Interest      18,375.31
        Chase Business Select High Yield Savings          97,622.16
        Key Business Reward Checking                      87,863.16
        Key Business Signature Money Market Savings       36,019.86
        Ameriprise Cash Mgmt Acct                         13,406.15

     Total Current Assets                                253,286.64


   TOTAL ASSETS                                          253,286.64


   LIABILITIES &amp;amp; EQUITY

     General and current liabilities                           0.00

     Equity
        Reserves held in trust
           aptosid Earmark                       96.13
           Arch Linux Earmark                   258.44
           Debian Earmark                    53,948.18
           DebConf 11 Earmark                32,248.19
           Freedesktop.org Earmark           12,866.25
           FreedomBox Foundation Earmark     20,000.00
           Gallery Earmark                    7,613.55
           GNU TeXmacs Earmark                   72.35
           Jenkins Earmark                    3,942.40
           LibreOffice Earmark               14,752.82
           Madwifi.org Earmark                1,454.09
           OpenOffice.org Earmark            21,636.64
           OpenVAS                               45.71
           OpenWrt                              980.95
           Open Voting Foundation Earmark       153.65
           OSUNIX                                 0.56
           Path64                                 9.31
           Plan 9 Earmark                     6,500.00
           PostgreSQL Earmark                28,064.28
           Privoxy Earmark                      455.25
           The HeliOS Project                   588.61
           Tux4Kids Earmark                   8,788.85
           YafaRay Earmark                    4,762.58

        Total held in trust                              219,238.79

        General reserves                                  34,047.85


     Total Equity                                        253,286.64

   TOTAL LIABILITIES &amp;amp; EQUITY                            253,286.64

&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Michael Schultheiss</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2011-12-15T05:56:09</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.spi.general/1119">
    <title>Treasurer's Report as of 2011-10-31</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.spi.general/1119</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;This report uses a cash-based method of accounting, recording donations
when deposited (not when the check was written or received by us) and
recording expenses when sent or scheduled for payment (not when
incurred).

Income Statement
for the Period October 01, 2011 - October 31, 2011

 Income
   Ordinary Income
        aptosid                             15.00
        Debian                             385.00
        freedesktop.org                     10.00
        Gallery                             20.00
        Jenkins                            130.00
        OpenOffice.org                     190.00
        OpenWrt                             30.00
        PostgreSQL                       3,156.62
        Privoxy                             10.00
        SPI General                         75.00
        SPI 5%                              41.50
        The HeliOS Project                 125.00

        Total Ordinary Income            4,188.12
                                         --------

   Interest Income
        Key Bank Money Mkt Savings           1.53
        Chase BusinessClassic Checking       0.11
        Chase Bus Select High Yield Savings 12.40
        Ameriprise Cash Mgmt Acct            4.53 [1]

        Total Interest Income               18.57
                                            -----

   Gross Income                          4,206.69
                                         --------

 Expenses
  Ordinary Expenses

        aptosid
          Processing Fees             0.95
          SPI 5%                      0.75

          Total aptosid Exp           1.70
                                      ----

        Debian
          Processing Fees            21.70
          SPI 5%                     19.25
          Travel                    350.00

          Total Debian Exp          390.95
                                    ------

        DebConf 11
          Travel                  6,696.05

          Total DC11 Exp          6,696.05
                                  --------
        
        freedesktop.org
          Processing Fees             0.75
          SPI 5%                      0.50

          Total fd.o Exp              1.25
                                      ----

        Gallery
          Processing Fees             0.80
          SPI 5%                      1.00

          Total Gallery Exp           1.80
                                      ----

        Jenkins
          Processing Fees             6.60
          SPI 5%                      6.50

          Total Jenkins Exp          13.10
                                     -----

        OpenOffice.org (OO.o)
          Processing Fees             5.60
          SPI 5%                      9.50

          Total OO.o Exp             15.10
                                     -----

        OpenWrt
          Processing Fees             1.90
          SPI 5%                      1.50

          Total OpenWrt Exp           3.40
                                      ----
        
        Privoxy
          Processing Fees             0.75
          SPI 5%                      0.50

          Total Privoxy Exp           1.25
                                      ----

        SPI
          PaySimple Monthly Fee      29.95
          Transaction Fees          217.96 

          Total SPI Exp             247.91
                                    ------

        The HeliOS Project
          Processing Fees             2.70
          SPI 5%                      6.25

          Total HeliOS Exp            8.95
                                      ----

        Yafaray
          Training Materials         40.98

          Total Yafaray Exp          40.98
                                     -----


        Total Expenses            7,422.44
                                  --------

        Net Income               (3,215.75)
                                 ==========


Balance Sheet as of October 31, 2011

   ASSETS
     Current Assets
        Chase BusinessClassic Checking with Interest      14,256.59
        Chase Business Select High Yield Savings          97,610.15
        Key Business Reward Checking                      72,183.34
        Key Business Signature Money Market Savings       36,018.38
        Ameriprise Cash Mgmt Acct                         13,406.15

     Total Current Assets                                233,474.61


   TOTAL ASSETS                                          233,474.61


   LIABILITIES &amp;amp; EQUITY

     General and current liabilities                           0.00

     Equity
        Reserves held in trust
           aptosid Earmark                       82.62
           Debian Earmark                    55,185.46
           DebConf 11 Earmark                32,239.44
           Freedesktop.org Earmark           12,857.85
           Gallery Earmark                    7,521.40
           GNU TeXmacs Earmark                   63.60
           Jenkins Earmark                    3,942.40
           LibreOffice Earmark               12,000.00
           Madwifi.org Earmark                1,454.09
           OpenOffice.org Earmark            21,636.64
           OpenVAS                               45.71
           OpenWrt                              980.95
           Open Voting Foundation Earmark       153.65
           OSUNIX                                 0.56
           Path64                                 9.31
           Plan 9 Earmark                     6,500.00
           PostgreSQL Earmark                31,098.80
           Privoxy Earmark                      455.25
           The HeliOS Project                   187.30
           Tux4Kids Earmark                   8,788.85
           YafaRay Earmark                    4,758.38

        Total held in trust                              199,962.26

        General reserves                                  33,512.35


     Total Equity                                        233,474.61

   TOTAL LIABILITIES &amp;amp; EQUITY                            233,474.61

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    <dc:creator>Michael Schultheiss</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2011-11-09T21:02:14</dc:date>
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