http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.org.fsf.europe.discussion hourly 1 1901-01-01T00:00+00:00 http://gmane.org/img/gmane-25t.png http://gmane.org http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.fsf.europe.discussion/4123 <pre>Hi all, This month, for our monthly fellowship interview, we talked with Giacomo Poderi. He has worked as a translator and editor for FSFE, as well as completing a master’s degree in Philosophy. Currently he’s working on a Ph.D in sociology, which looks at the user experience in Free Software Projects, focusing on the turn-based strategy game ‘The Battle for Wesnoth’. Please read this interview on http://blogs.fsfe.org/fellowship-interviews/?p=590 Thank you, Alessandro </pre> Alessandro Polvani 2012-05-23T22:51:30 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.fsf.europe.discussion/4122 <pre> From: Timo Juhani Lindfors &lt;timo.lindfors-X3B1VOXEql0&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt; To: discussion-BSDwwRMYa8fNLxjTenLetw&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 01:46:32 +0300 +1 The current long list of readers is very confusing. (I also think that the name pdfreaders.org is bit misleading since it does not list the most popular pdf reader in the world but I guess renaming it to free-pdfreaders.org is already too late...) From: Fioddor I don't like the idea of a single-product recomendation. FSFE should remain AND LOOK LIKE neutral. Neither a transparent auto-detection: people doing a selection for friends, users surfing the web from their workplace, fast consultation on the go (mobile set) looking for sw for the home system, ...). I'd improve the long list turning it into a table with some criteria. Filtering (e.g javascript) would also be welcome. </pre> Fioddor Superconcentrado 2012-05-23T14:04:47 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.fsf.europe.discussion/4100 <pre>Just in case someone on this list is in Denmark that day and able to make it. On April the 30th we will have our third FSFE Fellowship Meeting in Aarhus, Denmark. It will be in the hackerspace Open Space Aarhus (or OSAA), 19.00-21.00 hours. There's an announcement here (in Danish): http://osaa.dk/2012/04/fsfe-fellowship-m%C3%B8de-n%C3%A6ste-gang-mandag-den-30-april/ and an agenda here (also in Danish): http://wiki.fsfe.org/groups/aarhus/Referat30April2012 Best regards, Carsten </pre> Carsten Agger 2012-04-27T10:40:45 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.fsf.europe.discussion/4098 <pre>FSFE is holding its annual General Assembly in Lisbon this year, and we would meet the local Free Software community! Please join us on Saturday April 28th at for a relaxed evening of drinks and conversation. We will meet at 21:30 at Lisbon metro station Estação Baixa Chiado, exit Largo do Chiado. From there, we'll move to Galeria Zé dos Bois around 22:00. Further details and a map are available at the website of our associate organisation ANSOL: https://ansol.org/fsfega2012meetup We are looking forward to see you there! Matthias PS: You do not live in Lisboa, but want to meet as many FSFE people as possible in one place? Propose were to held the next GA, help us with finding a good location and we'll meet :) (Yes, some people might argue, you can also visit FOSDEM ;) ). </pre> Matthias Kirschner 2012-04-26T09:27:35 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.fsf.europe.discussion/4097 <pre>Hi All, Probably too late to put out an email to everyone who might be interested. Glynn Moody has another good article up regarding the upcoming ACTA proposals. The European Parliament Committee for Legal Affairs (JURI) looks likely to submit a positive recommendation for ACTA. The vote is tomorrow. Glynn has listed a series of MEPs on the committee along with email addresses and is recommending people pass on their views - he's also shown a copy of what he has sent. If anyone has the time and inclination, the article and further details here: http://blogs.computerworlduk.com/open-enterprise/2012/04/acta-update-xiv/index.htm Glynn is the same person who recently brought the Open Standards Consultation to my attention a week or so ago. Thanks Craig -- Craig Errington (ce) Free Software Foundation (fellow) Mail: ce-VaTbYqLCNhc&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org Jabber: ce-gLC+hB8UoVevJkmNg0xvRQ&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org </pre> Craig Errington 2012-04-25T12:55:00 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.fsf.europe.discussion/4096 <pre>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, FSFE's monthly fellowship interview with Bernd Wurst is online: http://blogs.fsfe.org/fellowship-interviews/?p=573 Bern Wurst is a Free Software professional, volunteering for the Freedroidz project. He describes us his engagement with Free Software, and its importance for education. Thank you, - -- Alessandro Polvani [ ] &lt;alessandro.polvani-VaTbYqLCNhc&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt; Free Software Foundation Europe [ ][ ][ ] [http://fsfe.org] Assistant to the President | | +49-30-27595290 Your donation powers our work! [http://fsfe.org/donate/] Free Software Foundation Europe e.V. is a German Verein registered at the Registergericht Hamburg (VR 17030). -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iJwEAQECAAYFAk+WaZMACgkQey/ZAxEJx3+WJQQAh0ehkMHOE7fJK4Z3jltria8g 8okE9i2gqtn0U+6GhsOc/LVYtu5E3OOcs+7ttEeTNlFVly3U2dEim0P5ht8bXm0H PPfW3bppIH+d0vD5IMYtaS1E/cXl/OJjKcw0x77A2ei8pnqkTlwYmxXetMAvpnq6 /rjvSqA8P3WblnZ8e1U= =Ul3s -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- </pre> Alessandro Polvani 2012-04-24T08:51:31 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.fsf.europe.discussion/4095 <pre>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi all! I would like to notify you that we will have a booth at LinuxTag in Berlin from May 23 to 26. It would be great to meet as many of you as possible. We are also looking for booth volunteers. It is a four-day event, so we are organising shifts. Your assistance would help us a lot, even if just for a couple of hours of half a day. Please refer to me for any question. Looking forward to meeting you in Berlin! Alessandro - -- Alessandro Polvani [ ] &lt;alessandro.polvani-VaTbYqLCNhc&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt; Free Software Foundation Europe [ ][ ][ ] [http://fsfe.org] Assistant to the President | | +49-30-27595290 Your donation powers our work! [http://fsfe.org/donate/] Free Software Foundation Europe e.V. is a German Verein registered at the Registergericht Hamburg (VR 17030). -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iJwEAQECAAYFAk+OslIACgkQey/ZAxEJx3/L1wP/YkEj/u5UdbWcrfky78SUT7ER 92/rfXvbQUA9BQ6blTPjpSwkRI0pNhB3WoO5x9n8KiLexFGucabh/kA64HI0HqpE OFmxNlvx7rVUCv7Ty/QJwPp9aku/taVFhRQxBVWMhNC6AzJJOER78fAowoslgZrF 20jQ2k8okx9BrVh00Tc= =GEAQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- </pre> Alessandro Polvani 2012-04-18T12:23:46 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.fsf.europe.discussion/4094 <pre>Dear discussants, As you may or may not be aware, we are planning to overhaul the pdfreaders.org website. As part of the future changes, we are planning to replace the current table with platform-specific reader recommendations. Thus, it would be beneficial if you listed the pros and cons of the free readers you actively use and the criteria we should consider when evaluating the readers. The reason behind this request is very simple: Today I had a rather interesting talk with the leader of Estonian Pirate Party, and we happened to discuss free PDF readers, and our use cases were just so dramatically different – I use PDFs for reading only, but for him good annotation system was a must – that I decided to ask as diverse audience as possible for input. Thus, could you please tell us why a certain free reader is better than the alternatives or elaborate on your daily use? Please tell us what we should consider when we are going to make the final choice on recommendations. Thanks. Some ideas: -&gt; Existence of a browser plug-in (the idea is from Hannes, I think) -&gt; Annotation system Faithfully yours, </pre> Heiki "Repentinus" Ojasild 2012-04-17T17:22:16 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.fsf.europe.discussion/4092 <pre>What happened on Document Freedom Day 2012? What was it all about? Where did it happen? See the final report complete with pictures and statistics: http://documentfreedom.org/news/2012/news-20120403-01.en.html Sam. </pre> Sam Tuke 2012-04-16T17:49:55 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.fsf.europe.discussion/4091 <pre>Next weekend (20-22) is FSFE's 2012 Web Sprint, this year in Manchester, UK. Come along and learn about web technologies and contribute to FSFE's websites. It'll be fun, it'll be social, and it'll help to spread Free Software more effectively online. Schedule, travel info, and contact details: http://wiki.fsfe.org/WebSprint2012 Contact me for free accommodation, and for grants to cover travel contact web team coordinator Nicolas Jean &lt;nicoulas-VaTbYqLCNhc&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt;. This is a great opportunity to meet some like-minded Free Software advocates without having to travel far. Feel free to drop in for a short time if you can't make the whole thing. See you there! Sam. </pre> Sam Tuke 2012-04-13T17:42:03 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.fsf.europe.discussion/4085 <pre>PDFreaders.org poster available In cooperation with the fsfe a poster for the PDFreaders.org campaign came to life. The campaign is about removing ads for proprietary pdfreaders from government websites. When you arrange an event which is connected to Free Software you may order or print a poster yourself after consultation with the fsfe. ----- PDFreaders.org Poster verfügbar In Zusammenarbeit mit der fsfe ist ein Poster für die PDFreaders.org Kampagne entstanden. In der Kampagne geht es darum, Werbung für proprietäre PDF-Betrachter von Webseiten der öffentlichen Verwaltung zu entfernen. Wer eine Aktion, die mit Freier Software zu tun hat, durchführt, kann nach Absprache mit der fsfe ein Poster für seine Öffentlichkeitsarbeit beziehen oder die Datei zum selber ausdrucken erhalten. _______________________________________________ Discussion mailing list Discussion&lt; at &gt;fsfeurope.org https://mail.fsfeurope.org/mailman/listinfo/discussion </pre> Philipp Kammerer 2012-03-31T11:52:46 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.fsf.europe.discussion/4083 <pre>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello List, sorry for the delay in working on the leaflet about software patents. We had a really high workload the last 4 weeks, combined with a high rate of illness among the members of our team. Therefore, I was not able to work on this issue. So, let's start again: Our leaflet about software patents that we use at the booth, is really outdated and should be updated. Please help me to update our leaflet. I opened an Etherpad where I inserted the text of the actual leaflet and some additional text from my side: http://policy.etherpad.fsfe.org/7 PW: SWPAT2012 I think, the length that the text on the etherpad has now is approximately the text length we can use on the leaflet. So, when you add some text then try to delete some text elsewhere, if possible : ) Thank you very much for you participation and ideas, best regards, Erik - -- Erik Albers [ ] Free Software Foundation Europe [ ][ ][ ] Policy Team [ ] Your donation powers our work! [http://fsfe.org/donate/] Contact me in &lt; Deutsch/English/Español &gt; via: Mail eal-VaTbYqLCNhc&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org Jabber eal-gLC+hB8UoVevJkmNg0xvRQ&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org Phone +49-30-27595290 Free Software Foundation Europe e.V. is a German Verein registered at the Registergericht Hamburg (VR 17030). -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJPdeCcAAoJEBho/C6GOdyBfa4P/R/0xs4tKzeBHAKwASNC31Hc XEa482rUr4y/wdP0npXlDN+A/VUPe35gQe2iSykbmjQBq1Te3Abt8c1+LkSt+7AC Kojdy6zNdVVjI8sWeqtBsHNNDLmca8xVXf5lm5bDy2IHVwIybep+FM28I04ixjHp IrEkasPXE6QAa9peQLecGpULguF68i+Ja2fwBpDLrPMOBb8RmeomBbnfqJPqR2Qj 9h5irf9lh9AxQ5sgoLZ5DIhdatrSFXDswyAIkww/rOc/T11kvQTIK5U6Ielsqqpa 893ywmZpFhNEB2u4vzT1pnEd/IEFWxd3zJUeFvHU1mh9M94U0jHXx30eBQAwXbT2 H8NQUteYbDTNDMIyaDSLe+GCFpJ9TlS2xrYBY0ObofEj1xjVV2REF6HyobqNix3u X4ak/XrDKdGjPyu9ONibjKmntKh4eU0NzihNZXY0lVCIQBJMPlVMuwPBpq8xlIH6 z98ggUfUz9M0VoStDO6ru435SjBUofu8LAQswk/VugF1JZUKqCWxwyuftMVkiv+W +56IzLMpSr2iy3IK/pMgfCtQ4YxyeqGxbI14eTE3cKorzEimDPiFZqor80EoX5zN OoPzN8PweGqcLxYU2J9X+iVVOEvcrJ3K5Co1Cy0kGabIOOU5MJ0mJ1zFldOY57tj Pi2MhGvM0bBxTPDn+ush =3zg+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- </pre> Erik Albers 2012-03-30T16:34:42 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.fsf.europe.discussion/4081 <pre>Here some news from Germany: https://fsfe.org/news/2012/news-20120328-01.en.html 1&amp;1, GMX and WEB.DE receive the German Document Freedom Award for the use of Open Standards. The prize is awarded by the Free Software Foundation Europe (FSFE) and the Foundation for a Free Information Infrastructure e.V. (FFII). 1&amp;1 is awarded for automatically adding XMPP for all customers of their mail services. The Document Freedom Award is awarded annually on the occasion of Document Freedom Day - the international day for Open Standards. Last years winners include tagesschau.de, Deutschland Radio, and the German Foreign Office. [...] If next year Facebook's and Microsoft Network's XMPP servers also federate, we have some even bigger one than those: https://wiki.fsfe.org/DFD-2012-Karlsruhe?action=AttachFile&amp;do=get&amp;target=DFA-2012-5.jpg Happy DFD and "I'M the World"! Matthias </pre> Matthias Kirschner 2012-03-28T06:55:59 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.fsf.europe.discussion/4080 <pre>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, Please check our monthly Fellowship interview (this month we met Guido Günther), which was published last Friday. Guido is being for a long time a substantial contributor to the Debian Project. He also enjoys contributing to the GNOME project and to advanced Free Software virtualisation technologies. He works as a professional Free Software developer and consultant. In this interview he tells us his personal story of engagement with Free Software, and shares his wiews about FSFE's work. You can read the interview on: http://blogs.fsfe.org/fellowship-interviews/?p=547 Best regards, Alessandro - -- Alessandro Polvani [ ] &lt;alessandro.polvani-VaTbYqLCNhc&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt; Free Software Foundation Europe [ ][ ][ ] [http://fsfe.org] Assistant to the President | | +49-30-27595290 Your donation powers our work! [http://fsfe.org/donate/] Free Software Foundation Europe e.V. is a German Verein registered at the Registergericht Hamburg (VR 17030). -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iJwEAQECAAYFAk9wWskACgkQey/ZAxEJx39vPwP9EC1n0KKbjF9JoMl77Jq7a+n0 /z+utjNcrl0b12fpLA/AfppFfc3bySf/SanUeqBY4g762qmY+GLv2mjn7aNNJFqK n7O974xjGaROK8QjMYnGq+DtZxKAT+Hamo6I8tgmWhDQzomYPmV8PhxV0KVcYVjg TPA3kpEbFUfcEYuh39k= =zklT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- </pre> Alessandro Polvani 2012-03-26T12:02:17 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.fsf.europe.discussion/4078 <pre>Manchester Fellow Anna Morris was interviewed on BBC Radio this week, about a conference that she's organising in London for women in Free Software. In just a few minutes she discusses what Free Software is, what it's like being a woman in the Free Software movement, and how she first got involved. Her interview starts at 17:13 http://download.fsfe.org/audio/20120320-bbc5-interview-anna-morris.ogg BBC podcast page: http://www.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/series/pods Anna is one of the Coordinators of the Manchester Fellowship group. The Women in Free Software conference is called Flossie: http://www.flossie.org/ Enjoy! Sam. </pre> Sam Tuke 2012-03-23T13:55:32 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.fsf.europe.discussion/4077 <pre>http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-17478070 Article about a professional magician who relies on Free Software for his tricks. Very interesting use of video on closed platforms with Free Software. Possibly relevant to any VJs out there. Thanks to Anna Morris in Manchester for the link. Best, Sam. </pre> Sam Tuke 2012-03-23T13:18:46 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.fsf.europe.discussion/4076 <pre>hi there, if you live in the UK, you can order DFD posters from Sam: http://blogs.fsfe.org/samtuke/?p=343 Regards, Matthias </pre> Matthias Kirschner 2012-03-19T13:29:24 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.fsf.europe.discussion/4072 <pre>I'll recommend readig Bernhard's article "Let’s end all Free Software “projects” quickly!" http://blogs.fsfe.org/bernhard/2012/03/lets-end-all-free-software-projects-quickly/  A “project” is always temporary, in the narrow sense of the term. Some Free Software people use “project” to refer to long lasting initiatives instead. By adopting the more widespread use of the term, Free Software initiatives enhance their ability to reflect upon themselves and to communicate better towards others. To make a distinction between an initiative, projects and products enables a group to more clearly speak about their individual interests and how this leads to successful cooperation. Let us end the misleading use of “project” and get into concluding more Free Software project faster! [...] Best Regards from the Chemnitzer Linuxtage Matthias </pre> Matthias Kirschner 2012-03-16T22:04:40 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.fsf.europe.discussion/4070 <pre>Dear all, Andreas, Sam and I have been thinking about the opportunity to meet up and achieve some work on FSFE's web site. The idea of a Web Sprint to gather forces and fix dozens of bugs sounded like the best option. This is why we are proud to announce that the next Web Sprint will take place in Manchester, April 21st and 22nd. After the success of October 2010's Web Sprint which saw the advent of fsfe.org's new design[1], we hope to fix lots of bugs, offer new functionalities and more important, have a great deal of fun with nice people! How you can help and join: - meet us there: the more the merrier! We welcome all participants who want to give a try at improving FSFE's website(s)! - join us online: even if you can't be in Manchester, fixing bugs remotely is of course possible and wanted! - give us feedback and ideas: not that much of a web designer or programmer? Browse fsfe.org, and while reading about things that matter, tell us what you think. We welcome all comments and ideas, there's always room for improvement. You are, we are the users! If you wish to join us physically and you don't have a place to stay yet, Sam knows a hotel where you can stay for approx. 35€ a night. Let us know! We will further announce the precise location and a more detailed planning soon. We're all looking forward to it! Thanks, The Web Team 1. read more at http://fsfe.org/news/2011/news-20110113-01.html </pre> Nicolas JEAN 2012-03-13T23:11:04 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.fsf.europe.discussion/4066 <pre>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Dear all, Our leaflet about software patents that we use at the booth, is really outdated and should be updated as soon as possible. As we already had a discussion on internal mailing lists, you are now all up to date with your arguments and knowledge : ) So, please help me to update our leaflet. Therefore, I opened an etherpad where I inserted the text of the actual leaflet and spontaneous ideas about what we can included in the leaflet: http://policy.etherpad.fsfe.org/7 I think the length that the text on the etherpad has now is approximately the text length we can use on the leaflet. Thank you very much for you participation and ideas, best regards, Erik - -- Erik Albers [ ] Free Software Foundation Europe [ ][ ][ ] Policy Team [ ] Your donation powers our work! [http://fsfe.org/donate/] Contact me in &lt; Deutsch/English/Español &gt; via: Mail eal-VaTbYqLCNhc&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org Jabber eal-gLC+hB8UoVevJkmNg0xvRQ&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org Phone +49-30-27595290 Free Software Foundation Europe e.V. is a German Verein registered at the Registergericht Hamburg (VR 17030). -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJPT7ssAAoJEBho/C6GOdyB+NgP+wbhoRSQckkE4ivxcOhCpT7b n7p9mO4YwXpfw8jCopDk9FyOAAoYh2OwRwseX4UHI7462XXEZpRXfLtzvgziu58m LmLu0wXQhLMQLMo1z3KBu6QGPsx4nD1qxyYGnUpCHCKmEds4KhqSaW7Mb9288yw6 bk76pb9VJJbG5RwbhDktisOPP8lvaJhzPxo2rcFExhAPs0QCsErOVoBUXP6LOR7x +jeAo4QeUwfM4IbePQt6rUI7kjIXy/svSUSq836FVcpfLUMpJPnQcdrX0toWVJxb G4oVBK7JRz7Vx72gTYrm5TU8MdaU1pXnJ4KwGqhvpJNs3mdacsxSBCgWillUvPbC nL1urzpKS3uKlJYEidXARTyXHR7PZmhLfZnubiZthi1WMFbIaHaUuKAm8L65t3gu FfpWmAPR9U7416SE3C8CWk6zBoelTnrcRMGNBbwkNmi9hLTzwaxQWLsRlpNccRC8 YAT3MKrZpUq3+fEIwx6bUhgFWxn23Nz3PAkcnN1ex2Og1C/jCsHsFAfLuyBCyZqX wCLknsKhWVQBdoE75yTQqqUhoX6Rj135OY5UPxg/BQOvBEA0gw4V46n4ZO32s0HI EA740DMwCGvJF5rvNPTatNEGRFu5QAfMmWljnP7o9MMW6byO3Vo5gTQdXphsQEmO bGkLNCS4Hw7GjUDiawOI =NBxt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- </pre> Erik Albers 2012-03-01T18:08:49 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.fsf.europe.discussion/4058 <pre>There are local government elections in my area coming up; the the usual occasion for candidates to nod to local concerns in a way that will ultimately fail to distinguish them in any way from eachother. I spoke with one candidate who sites on the Neighbourhood Management Board which I chair to discover if he had any intentions of making use of new technology (or not so new) to engage with constituents and undertake straw-polls and opinion gathering. It appears that such things are not supported by local party office but depend on the efforts and interest of individual candidates. I can only suppose that the main parties fear obsolescence in the same way that the music moguls do - when vote opinion may be conveyed rapidly and precisely to able administrators the political parties will be demoted to special interest groups lobbying the voters instead of the other way around. However the candidate expressed an interest in such public consultation tools as might be made available if the expertise could be provided. After some thought, though, it is hard to imagine something more useful or usable than a facebook-poll which allows simultaneously the voting on propositions and gathering of opinions - but of course only for those who use facebook. I therefore think it was to consult here and ask what systems for collaboration and engagement are known to readers of this mailing list, and what experience (if any) do readers have with such systems. Presently it is all too easy for elected representatives to not quite be able to do things they were planning on not doing, and doing with glory that which was already planned. Such tools as may bring like minded citizens together to understand their problems better and the strength of support would help ensure proper representation and accountability. Comments? thanks Sam </pre> Sam Liddicott 2012-02-28T13:52:58 Search the mailing list at Gmane query http://search.gmane.org/?group=$group=gmane.org.fsf.europe.discussion