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    <title>half copyrighted</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.music.mutopia.discuss/584</link>
    <description>Hi,

I ask you, even if it's merely related to mutopia. But I need a bit of 
your experience on copyright/left.

I would like to publish some sheets under an open licensing scheme 
(let's say creative commons).
The "edition" (the notes printed, lilypond sources files etc..) would be 
freely available for copy, modification (under restricted terms) and 
distribution etc...
But the "music" itself would remain the property of the composer, with 
all the right granted by the law in the country of the composer : both 
moral AND patrimonial rights (whereof the right to be paid for a public 
performance, via organisms like the french SACEM, etc...)

The goal would be
1 - to remunerate alive composers
2 - to allow students to try sheets and rehearse, for free (free as free 
beer)
3 - to allow people to easily arrange the sheets for new instruments 
(thanks to lilypond sources)

I now have a problem of wording.
How could I say unambiguously that

"this edition is released under the terms of the CC-SA (c) J. Smith 2008"
"the composer is a member of the SACEM don't forget to declare your 
performances"

?

Hop,

Yota
</description>
    <dc:creator>Yota</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-11-29T09:31:11</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.music.mutopia.discuss/582">
    <title>Help with corrections</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.music.mutopia.discuss/582</link>
    <description>Hi all,

We have had quite a few people sending in corrections recently, which is
great news. The ability to correct mistakes in the archive is one of
Mutopia's main advantages over other sheet music sites.

However... many of the pieces in question were created with old versions
of LilyPond. I have several installed on various virtual machines but
often don't have the right one.

Unfortunately I am struggling to find the time to make these corrections
so am wondering if anyone would like to help? Basically the pieces in
question either need upgrading to a current LilyPond version, or an old
version of LilyPond needs to be compiled and installed (usually
non-trivial on modern machines).

Would anyone like to help out with this? The ideal would be for someone
to offer to be in charge of making corrections; they would check that
the correction is valid, and upgrade/update the files on Mutopia as
appropriate.

Chris

</description>
    <dc:creator>Chris Sawer</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-10-15T20:01:39</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.music.mutopia.discuss/572">
    <title>WikiLily</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.music.mutopia.discuss/572</link>
    <description>I set up draft.wikilily.org if anyone wants to have a go at it -
set up a talk page or put a few .ly sources up - be my guest.
I think the DNS stuff has propagated.

-Mike
</description>
    <dc:creator>Mike Blackstock</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-07-18T18:31:58</dc:date>
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    <title>repository</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.music.mutopia.discuss/565</link>
    <description>_______________________________________________
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http://lists.bcn.mythic-beasts.com/mailman/listinfo/mutopia-discuss</description>
    <dc:creator>Yota</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-07-18T10:21:24</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.music.mutopia.discuss/563">
    <title>Beethoven quartet no. 9</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.music.mutopia.discuss/563</link>
    <description>_______________________________________________
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    <dc:creator>Eric Schissel</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-07-17T00:25:40</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.music.mutopia.discuss/556">
    <title>How active is the project these days?</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.music.mutopia.discuss/556</link>
    <description>_______________________________________________
Mutopia-discuss mailing list
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http://lists.bcn.mythic-beasts.com/mailman/listinfo/mutopia-discuss</description>
    <dc:creator>Garrett Fitzgerald</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-06-23T19:39:22</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.music.mutopia.discuss/554">
    <title>New "Free cultural works" label</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.music.mutopia.discuss/554</link>
    <description>Hi Chris, hi everybody,

as you may have noticed, the Creative Commons have just created a new
label that marks "free" works as in "compatible with FSF logic"; I
think you might be interested in having a look at:
http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/8051

Perhaps that could be interesting for Mutopie licenses definitions, could it?


Cheers,
Valentin
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    <dc:creator>Valentin Villenave</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-06-05T06:21:17</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.music.mutopia.discuss/546">
    <title>1000 pieces</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.music.mutopia.discuss/546</link>
    <description>Hi,

Just to let you know that the Mutopia archive reached 1000 pieces today!

Many thanks to all of the contributors over the last eight years. The 
1000th piece was, appropriately enough, "Untitled" contributed by Stan 
Sanderson at 0304 GMT this morning.

Incremental improvements to the archive/website continue. The most 
recent is a "change history" feature allowing you to see what has 
changed when a piece has been updated, be it a correction, for example:
http://www.mutopiaproject.org/cgibin/piece-info.cgi?id=1075

or additional movements/instruments, for example:
http://www.mutopiaproject.org/cgibin/piece-info.cgi?id=1026

I intend to update the website making it clearer that corrections are 
accepted and encouraged. I have a large number of LilyPond versions 
installed on my system (some using virtualization with old versions of 
Linux), so updating most pieces is relatively simple.

Further improvements are to come, not least the updating of the 
CGI-generated pages (music info + search results) to be fully XHTML/CSS 
based.

Regards,

Chris

</description>
    <dc:creator>Chris Sawer</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2007-11-04T14:07:47</dc:date>
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    <title>IMSLP</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.music.mutopia.discuss/540</link>
    <description>Hey all,

Just so you know (and some of you may already), IMSLP is going through
a rough spot right now after having received a(n unfounded, IMHO)
cease and desist from UE.  It's offline for the time being.

Thanks,

Geoff
</description>
    <dc:creator>Geoff Lehr</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2007-10-20T16:32:32</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.music.mutopia.discuss/539">
    <title>Fingering numbers</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.music.mutopia.discuss/539</link>
    <description>Hi all,

when one defines fingering numbers for notes with slurs, numbers are 
positioned always over slur line (if it if upper slur). That could be very 
high, too much for corresponding note. How to define that slur position is 
ignored for fingering numbers. I want that fingering numbers are positioned 
over note regardless of slur line. 
</description>
    <dc:creator>Stjepan Brbot</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2007-10-14T21:45:55</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.music.mutopia.discuss/536">
    <title>Full bar rest not horizontally centered</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.music.mutopia.discuss/536</link>
    <description>Hi all,

how to horizontally center full bar rest? Now when I put only rest in empty 
bar it is rendered on first beat instead of horizontal center. 
</description>
    <dc:creator>Stjepan Brbot</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2007-10-14T21:14:09</dc:date>
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    <title>Pedal mark (Ped*) distance</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.music.mutopia.discuss/535</link>
    <description>Hi all,

how I can control the vertical distance between lower stave and pedal marks 
line? Sometimes when I want to squize more staves on one page my Pedal line 
is to high. 
</description>
    <dc:creator>Stjepan Brbot</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2007-10-14T21:06:39</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.music.mutopia.discuss/533">
    <title>Vertically centered dynamics signs</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.music.mutopia.discuss/533</link>
    <description>Hi all,

as a new member and newbie for LilyPond I have one question; is it possible 
to define that all dynamics signs (ppp, pp, ..., fff, crescendo, 
decrescendo, ...) should be vertically centered between left hand and right 
hand piano staves? Now when I define note with e.g. piano dynamics like c\p 
my "p" vertically and horizontally follows my note (below), sometimes is 
higher sometimes lower. I'd like all dynamics signs in my score to be 
vertically centered by default.

Thx in advance

Stjepan 
</description>
    <dc:creator>Stjepan Brbot</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2007-10-13T21:50:07</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.music.mutopia.discuss/532">
    <title>Lost e-mail</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.music.mutopia.discuss/532</link>
    <description>Hi,

Our ISP had a major e-mail outage on Sunday/Monday, and it's possible 
that some e-mails have been lost or bounced.

If you sent an e-mail to a MutopiaProject.org e-mail address recently 
and haven't received a reply, please resend it. My apologies for the 
inconvenience.

Regards,

Chris

</description>
    <dc:creator>Chris Sawer</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2007-08-08T18:48:30</dc:date>
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    <title>error in instrument</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.music.mutopia.discuss/530</link>
    <description>Hi,
Has a error in Variations - Opus 66 (new submission) by Beethoven.
"Instrument(s): Violin"
but this work is for violoncello and piano.

[]s
Huberto
</description>
    <dc:creator>Huberto Gastal Mayer</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2007-07-28T04:14:30</dc:date>
  </item>
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    <title>ravel and scriabin?</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.music.mutopia.discuss/527</link>
    <description>_______________________________________________
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</description>
    <dc:creator>Kieran Coulter</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2007-07-26T13:32:34</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.music.mutopia.discuss/525">
    <title>[meta] Can we add this mailing list to Gmane?</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.music.mutopia.discuss/525</link>
    <description>Hi all,

I recently started using Gmane (http://www.gmane.org), a free mail-to- 
news gateway that allows mailing list users to view messages through  
a Usenet newsreader.  A bunch of high-profile open source projects  
(including LilyPond) use Gmane, so I was writing to see whether  
there's any opposition to adding mutopia-discuss to Gmane.  (Gmane  
already includes a group for the apparently-defunct mutopia-announce  
list.)

If we were to do so, everyone would be able to post to and read the  
list just as before, but it would also be possible to view the list  
through a newsreader.  Gmane has a comprehensive FAQ at http:// 
gmane.org/faq.php, and information on adding a list is available at  
http://gmane.org/add.php.  If there's no significant opposition to  
this idea within a couple of days, I'll go ahead and add the list  
myself.

</description>
    <dc:creator>Unknown</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2007-07-24T21:18:20</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.music.mutopia.discuss/524">
    <title>New comer, new scores</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.music.mutopia.discuss/524</link>
    <description>Hi!

I'm the guy that was working on the Schubert's Ave Maria. Feel free to send it because I couln'd finish it: my computer crashed and I had to format my harddrive :(.

Oh, and this is not the right place to send scores to the archive ;-) This is a discussion mailling list. For submissions, it's written in http://www.mutopiaproject.org/contribute.html:
Send us the Music

If all this seems a little complicated then please don't be put off
- it's not really that hard! We're looking forward to receiving your
contribution to the world of free music for all. Contributions should
be sent, by e-mail, to &lt;contributions (at) MutopiaProject.org&gt;.


We reserve the right to refuse files submitted to Mutopia if we feel that they are in any way unsuitable.

Have a nice day!

Simon


 
Simon Plante, aKa simonpca 
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? : 
Envoy? le : mercredi 4 juillet 2007, 14 h 36 min 28 s
Objet : [Mutopia-discuss] New comer, new scores

Hello,
I don't know if this is the right place, for it, and I apologize if it is not:
I am finishing a few lieder (song with piano) of Schubert with Lilypond: they are
- An die Musik D 547
- Auf dem Wasser zu singen D 774

- Erlk?nig D 328
- Du bist die Ruh D 776
- Ungeduld (Die sch?ne M?llerin D 795 n? 7)
- Ellen's dritter Gesang (Ave Maria) D 839 (I've read on the list today that someone is preparing the piano version)

- An Sylvia D 891 (but you have it already, anyway, it is finished)

 All the scores come from the university of Indiana (http://www.dlib.indiana.edu/variations/scores
/) and are in the Public domain (An old Peters Edition from the beginning of the 20th century, though there is no date)

I am a fan of Schubert's Lieder, so I will continue on this way.
I want both a beautiful score and a beautiful and complete Midi output.


Wish you my best regards.
Philippe Raynaud (Paris)

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    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.music.mutopia.discuss/523</link>
    <description>Hello,
I don't know if this is the right place, for it, and I apologize if it is
not:
I am finishing a few lieder (song with piano) of Schubert with Lilypond:
they are
- An die Musik D 547
- Auf dem Wasser zu singen D 774
- Erlk?nig D 328
- Du bist die Ruh D 776
- Ungeduld (Die sch?ne M?llerin D 795 n? 7)
- Ellen's dritter Gesang (Ave Maria) D 839 (I've read on the list today that
someone is preparing the piano version)
- An Sylvia D 891 (but you have it already, anyway, it is finished)

 All the scores come from the university of Indiana (
http://www.dlib.indiana.edu/variations/scores/) and are in the Public domain
(An old Peters Edition from the beginning of the 20th century, though there
is no date)

I am a fan of Schubert's Lieder, so I will continue on this way.
I want both a beautiful score and a beautiful and complete Midi output.

Wish you my best regards.
Philippe Raynaud (Paris)
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    <dc:date>2007-07-24T21:18:18</dc:date>
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    <title>Mozart Sonate facile, first try</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.music.mutopia.discuss/519</link>
    <description>Hello,

I have just completed the transcription of the first movement of this
sonata from an IMSLP source. That version has a lot of annotations
that I'm sure are not in the original urtext. Anyway they may be
useful to study the piece.

This first version surely has some mistakes that I will correct later,
but I have few questions about lilypond:

1.- How to make a trill span in a single mesure for a single note
without invading another mesure? (mesure 25, line 89). Besides it
should finish with a grace (see mesures 25 and 69 in IMSLP version).

2.- I am using several transpositions of repeated parts. The notes go
fine but of course the transposed fingering is not right. Is there a
way to assign different fingering to different transpositions?

3.- Finally, lilypond complains about being unable to  end slurs when
they are oppened or closed at different relative blocks. What should I
do?

Thank you in advance for any hint.

Alejandro Sierra
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