http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.qa hourly 1 1901-01-01T00:00+00:00 http://gmane.org/img/gmane-25t.png http://gmane.org http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.qa/1554 <pre>Amber Graner is hosting a live interview with me today. If your interested in watching the session, tune in at the links below. The interview should be starting sometime in the next hour from receipt of this message. If you miss it, the video will be available afterwards for your viewing pleasure. http://www.youtube.com/user/AmberGraner https://plus.google.com/u/0/100254004947968890609/posts Nicholas </pre> Nicholas Skaggs 2012-05-24T14:35:41 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.qa/1553 <pre>I shared some of my thoughts and goals during the meeting today, so please do check it out: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings/QA/20120523 Despite still tying up some lose ends on planning testing for the cycle, I wanted to share with all of you what thoughts on how we can improve and expand on the types of testing we do as part of QA. ISOTesting My goal is to help ensure things are smooth before milestones, and before isotesting events. Before we spin an iso, we want to feel good about what's going on that iso. And we as a community can help make that happen. Overall, I want each individual to have a lighter workload than last cycle, despite having a similar amount of overall work we need to achieve. To do this I'd like to help enable more people to be testing, and to expand the 'adopt an iso' program so that folks can focus on testing things they like and are able to test without becoming overwhelmed or burnt out. Additionally, respins will be a continuous focus and communication of what has changed and what needs tested will be a priority. As a community we want to avoid doing re-work/extra work and dedicate ourselves to performing quality testing, not merely having a large quantity of testing. Application Testing Last cycle we utilized checkbox to deliver manual application tests. During UDS, we spoke of expanding the isotracker to do our testcase management, and thus consolidate our application testing by using the same tool used for the isotracker to create an application tracker. This work is on-going, but should be finished at some point during the cycle so we can adopt it and use it. In the interim period will be continue utilizing checkbox or doing manual testing via blogs or mailing lists, etc. SRU Verification SRU verification is currently a manual process with a high learning curve and little visibility for many people. During the cycle, we hope to help change that but also utilizing a new tracker to do SRU testing. This testing will involve running the stable version (currently precise) of ubuntu, but testing fixes to individual packages. This makes it a good fit for those who aren't living on the bleeding edge but wish to help. When this process is ironed out (sometime during the cycle) I will contact everyone again with information on howto get involved. General Testing (eg, Day-to-Day running of the development version) Some good feedback was given on how to help make this better. There are a few things we would like to do to help improve this process. First, day to day changes should be able to be followed easier with some proposed changes to update-manager to better display changelogs for updated packages. I'll be detailing some information about how 'whoopsie' works and what it means to you. In addition, keeping the development release stable at all times will continue to be a priority for the development teams. Calls for testing (specific feature or new features of critical package or focused testing on a specific package) Last cycle this typically involved me posting and laying out a basic testplan on my blog with instructions on how to help test. This cycle, again we hope to consolidate this onto a tracker where the tests and results can be recorded. I will still be utilizing my blog, the &lt; at &gt;ubuntutesting twitter account, this mailing list and our IRC meeting to publicize events like this for people to get involved and contribute. It's always fun to see new features before they come to everyone else, and the feedback loop with the developers was welcome on both sides. QATracker Development With these changes to the qatracker, there is room for some folks who know python and django to get involved and help improve the qatracker codebase to make testing and reporting easier :-) Contact me, or simply have a look at the code on launchpad and start hacking. lp:~ubuntu-qa-website-devel/ubuntu-qa-website/drupal7-rewrite lp:~ubuntu-qa-website-devel/ubuntu-qa-website/drupal7-rewrite-testcase-management lp:~ubuntu-qa-website-devel/ubuntu-qa-website/python-qatracker lp:~ubuntu-qa-website-devel/ubuntu-qa-website/python-qatracker-testcase-management Hardware Database The idea for having a hardware database for testing is not a new one, but work has begun anew. This is work that will go beyond this cycle, but ideas are being explored at using ubuntu friendly and other tools to make this a reality. Testcases As a testcase management system will soon be in place (hurray!), we'll be migrating all of the testcases over to this system. That means will have much better visibility and ease of maintenance for all of our testcases. Cleanup and expansion of the number of testcases is definitely a goal for the cycle, and expect to hear more about getting involved in this area. Whew, that's a wall of text, but I hope it helps outline what the plans are for the cycle. Feedback appreciated and encouraged :-) Happy Testing! Nicholas </pre> Nicholas Skaggs 2012-05-24T14:13:14 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.qa/1552 <pre>Look ma, we're on the release schedule! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseInterlock That's right, we've been assigned tasks corresponding to the milestone events for next cycle. As a community, we're being asked to perform the tasks and work detailed community testing column. It's important we know what we're signing up for, so feedback is being requested now for potential issues you may see. Feel free to simply respond to this email with your comments and concerns. Again, feedback is encouraged. The release team will finalise this schedule soon. Thanks, Nicholas </pre> Nicholas Skaggs 2012-05-23T19:26:02 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.qa/1551 <pre>Ubuntu User days are coming up soon -- June 23rd - June 24th. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDays This is an excellent platform an opportunity for us as the QA community to introduce new folks to the wonderful world of testing. But we need some volunteers to have a session with a QA mindset. Here's some ideas the User Days Team has come up with, or perhaps you have something you'd like to present. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDaysTeam/CourseSuggestions I'd add to that list things like: running the development version of ubuntu using testdrive for iso and application testing Let me know if you interested in running a session; I'd like to help make sure QA is well-represented. And if your nervous about doing a session alone, I can help :) Thanks! Nicholas </pre> Nicholas Skaggs 2012-05-23T19:17:10 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.qa/1550 <pre>Just a reminder (for me too!), we'll be kicking off our IRC meetings again for QA after our hiatus for UDS. Tomorrow, be in #ubuntu-meeting &lt; at &gt; 1400 UTC and if possible, come ready to chat about your plans and needs for the cycle. I'll do my best to cover my own work items and the blueprints and plans outlined during UDS. Thanks everyone, Nicholas </pre> Nicholas Skaggs 2012-05-22T12:35:06 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.qa/1549 <pre>Hello everyone, I'm Stefano and I’m very happy to give my contribution to the Ubuntu community. I hope to stay well with you.</pre> Stefano Rigonat 2012-05-17T20:05:49 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.qa/1547 <pre>Hi guys, A big QA challenge is understanding and resolving bugs that occur on client machines. More often than not, a bug will be reported and then closed, due to a lack of debug information or a failure to reproduce the issue. I'd like to refer you to Traces, a tracing infrastructure for C/C++ Linux applications. Traces enables the tracing of all function calls occurring within an application as well as provide an API for traditional, explicit tracing. The traces are designed to have small performance overhead, so they can be active at all times. Produced trace files are atomic in the sense that they contain all the metadata necessary for interpreting the trace. What do you think about the possibility of adapting Traces into key components of the distribution? It could be very useful to have the user send a complete trace of a program in the event of a failure. Anyway, here's the code: https://github.com/yotamr/traces Regards, Yotam </pre> Yotam Rubin 2012-05-11T13:01:15 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.qa/1546 <pre>Hey, It came up in the applying-ubuntu-qa-tools-and-practiced-to-upstream session that the QA team wants to be able to test OpenStack itself. During the last cycle I found myself having to create an OpenStack deployment in a single VM and with the help of the Adam from the server team, I wrote a wiki page[1] to document how I accomplished this. While you may not be able to use this as is, I think it may provide a good starting off point for the QA team's testing of OpenStack. [1]https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/TestingOpenStack </pre> Jamie Strandboge 2012-05-10T18:30:30 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.qa/1545 <pre>UDS is here, live and in living color in Oakland, California. This UDS is going to be filled with lots of good discussion around quality. Now is the time to contribute your thoughts and opinions on quality efforts. Do you have feedback about the calls for testing or perhaps iso testing? Have an idea on how to engage with more people? Do you wish QA would adopt a specific tool? Check out the blueprints here and plan to attend in person or via IRC. http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-q/track/qa/ If your unable to attend, please feel free to add your thoughts to the blueprints respective whiteboard / etherpad. When commenting, prefixing your name before the comment so we can attribute the contribution to you is helpful. For example: [nskaggs] This is my comment. All comments are appreciated and encouraged. Thanks for your participation everyone and let's have a wonderful UDS and 12.10 cycle. Nicholas </pre> Nicholas Skaggs 2012-05-07T15:54:41 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.qa/1544 <pre>Hi all! Precise Pangolin 12.04 LTS has been released and we ask everyone on the QA team to participate in the laptop testing. The procedures for testing your laptop and reporting results are explained on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Laptop/Procedures Post your test results on the Laptop tracker [1] and if you find any bug with the release, report them on Launchpad and on the tracker as usual. You'll require a laptop profile in order to pair results and bugs with your hardware. To have it, we highly recommend to first run Checkbox from your system, then search for the corresponding profile on the Ubuntu Friendly website [2]. Please let us know if you have any questions, we will coordinate testing in #ubuntu-testing on freenode. Thank you very much for your help and happy testing! [1] http://laptop.qa.ubuntu.com/ [2] http://friendly.ubuntu.com </pre> Sergio Zanchetta 2012-05-04T12:41:01 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.qa/1540 <pre>Due to UDS and openweek the meeting for today and next week, May 9th is cancelled. So our next meeting will be Wednesday May 16th. Rather than meeting, I would like to invite everyone to participate in the QA UDS sessions. We need everyone's feedback to help us plan our work for next cycle. We as a community have some wonderful goals and ideas to talk through. You can see the overall schedule for UDS here: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-q/ The specific QA track is outline here: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-q/track/qa/ All the times listed are in PDT. If you would like to attend a session, but are unable due to a timezone issue, please let me know. I may be able to help change the session to a more convenient time. If your physically in or near Oakland at can attend the session/UDS in person, please do! Thanks everyone! Nicholas </pre> Nicholas Skaggs 2012-05-02T18:24:46 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.qa/1539 <pre>Hi everyone, Here is the testing report for 12.04LTS images, also available on the wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ReleaseReports/PreciseFinalTestReport A big thank you to Adam Conrad, Alessio Grosso Sgarrillo, android-lee, AntonioAllegretti, Andy Whitcroft, Janne Jokitalo, Mahendran Kathirvel, Benjamin Kerensa, Carla Sella, Colin King, securitycondor, Del, EmmanuelLeNormand, estromsnes, seb, Fabio Marconi, FabrizioOrsini, Gema Gomez, Greg Faith, Tobin Davis, C de-Avillez, Jane Atkinson, J Cord, James Page, Jani Monoses, Jamie Strandboge, Jean-Baptiste Lallement, Jack Fromm, Jonathan Carter, Jonathan Riddell, Julian Olivien, Tobias Kotewitsch, Efren D. Montales Jr., Scott Kitterman, Smurfi, Lars Noodén, Erick Brunzell, Len Ovens, Elvis Slavić, Kenneth Morrow, Graham Lucking, Luigi Tanese, Piyush Madan, mario, Marc Deslauriers, MrCopilot, sudodus, Neil Oosthuizen, Nicholas Skaggs, Oliver Grawert, ojordan, Robie Basak, Richard Palomino, Robin Catling, James Cain, Sandeep Nayak, Sandra Farnedi, angel, Scott Lavender, Stéphane Graber, Mario Limonciello, Thomas Mashos, Unit 193, Ben Howard, Philip Muškovac, Yogesh Gupta, Zach, Andreas Siegert, aliencoder, Andrew McDonnell, Carlo Bottai, Javier P.L., John Webster, Claudio Arseni, Tom Kaltenbrunner, Nicola Corti, Charles Profitt, dmealo, Ben, Benoit THIBAUD, Julien Lavergne, Glen Ditchfield, GridCube, Haggai Eran, Ivan Frederiks, James Gifford, Jiří Podvolecký, Joey Romero, karl anliot, Dax Solomon Umaming, Pasi Lallinaho, Marco Ferretti, Michael Casadevall, Hansen, Marco Buono, Nikola Snele, Olivier Vermesse, Oskar Kirmis, Salvatore Palma, Paolo Rotolo, PMMR, Pete Graner, Sergio Zanchetta, Parameswaran Sivatharman, Redmar, Rohan Garg, Francesco Ruvolo, s0l1dsnak3123, Stephen V. Williams, Swatgoss, Tobias Kaatz, Jon Arne Westgaard, Jacek N and tim for testing the ISOs. </pre> Jean-Baptiste Lallement 2012-04-26T10:58:24 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.qa/1538 <pre>Ubuntu open week is upon us! I know some of you mentioned wanting to undertake a session in the realm of QA -- I have some ideas as well, but I cannot attend due to being in Oakland early for UDS. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek If anyone wishes to signup, let me know. If you are curious as to what is involved, basically the idea is to have you present a topic and provide your knowledge and expertise to inform others. The experience happens in ubuntu-classroom which controls who can speak and questions/answers. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom Let me know! There's only 4 slots left, Nicholas P.S. Don't forget to attend if your interested or read the logs later. There's always something to learn and it's a good time to get your feet wet into what is going on across ubuntu. </pre> Nicholas Skaggs 2012-04-24T17:34:41 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.qa/1537 <pre>Hi everyone! The release of 12.04 LTS is due this week and candidate images are ready for testing on the ISO tracker. As usual we'll be asking everyone on the QA team to participate in the image testing to ensure we have good test coverage. The procedures for testing ISO images and reporting results are explained on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ISO/Procedures Sync the images and post your test results on the tracker at http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ You'll need a Launchpad account to login on the tracker. Please register if you are new to this. Please let us know if you have any questions. We will coordinate testing in #ubuntu-testing on freenode. Please, go there often to see what others are testing or what needs to be tested. Thank you very much for your help and happy testing! </pre> Jean-Baptiste Lallement 2012-04-23T12:31:34 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.qa/1534 <pre>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, all finally found a 'testing day' after a long week and it looks like Fridays are it :-) According to http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Install/DesktopLiveSession, test case TC-DLS-002, there is a 'gear' icon in the upper right hand corner, however I just have the word 'xubuntu' can anyone confirm the expected appearance for this menu? (I checked the alpha2 release and it is the same, so I am guessing this is how xubuntu is supposed to be, and the test case is incorrect for xubuntu) thanks, - --Andrew https://launchpad.net/~andymc73 http://blog.oldcomputerjunk.net Twitter: &lt; at &gt;andymc73 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPkWjcAAoJEF8I2jms4KhrFVEH/jiBG4OxanH9iCL+S1fUjpl8 HtA1AfT/Zo7qHlPSQ7LSwp/EPN1f979nQj4Jyg9OW3o6RDcNFFOMKPxRp3Crt8Lt 5GrJ3vpQ+mNC89U+2NW5lsZo0/rVhu7sHCVnFdnZvcqd/J6Xiu+y2DIDOsKZqaRA CGcSraD7WiTVh9QmBkcIlpAKu6gjE1Qvz1RS0nKKrlugnpJMu0ugLJGDoKYC9YM/ ARi8EMpGukYFQ9XL6vYYfsPdh+lFkFqOWI+rZBKSdAC3hYfJSw+P9mwEXZPT/11E OoAuWoe011ZEaLWLcIi4Zl6t3IWUvTEuWrNamhehkO01Td7iPzmMSsZ5EiNfVZY= =2P9b -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- </pre> Andrew McDonnell 2012-04-20T13:47:47 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.qa/1530 <pre>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Hey everyone, So we're now just a week away from releasing Edubuntu 12.04 LTS and the first candidate images are planned for later today. We have a pretty high number of tests to go through for this release which I added to: http://pad.ubuntu.com/precise-edubuntu-release I'll be going through a few of these myself but I'm also going to be pretty busy with other things (mostly, releasing Ubuntu ;)). Any help testing these will be appreciated, I tried to get all the needed information in that etherpad document. The first candidates for Edubuntu (20120419) are currently building and will be ready for testing in a few hours. They'll be showing up at: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/214/builds If you can set aside some time for testing over the next few days, it'd be greatly appreciated. I'm expecting quite a few respins of these images from today until release next Thursday but most of these tests aren't tied to a particular build and are just generic test we want to do before release. If you need any help, the Edubuntu team is usually around in #edubuntu on irc.freenode.net. Thanks for your help. - -- Stéphane Graber Ubuntu developer http://www.ubuntu.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIbBAEBCgAGBQJPj92oAAoJEMY4l01keS1nMjkP9iF+ZeqVnuMBhb4iQ90zRe7k Ntb1mO8a3TcuswgHQsc8brsR1FkV+YbqO4Xbk4ImoTEOq21Rrkis+yP9E+AqceJV 0U2x0Ex4rioRUih29TAtUg17aJ78TUWeZ4O0hx7Yy3HYTPhXp47hSj+cqvgx44k7 XFeyJDn0VfAyJeAGB0UZapoeGvi3y0IAFbJ84F20SKLIxjiWaeqbdZ/Y5gDtXiYm Km7ZoBK3H7ZIFt5Jh6zd3PjMumTRc27lcsLYnrx6OS+4/Z2qLYWJRTuQOoeSBS+R NnYRvwEnLe/AnsNH+4Cj1DyLeQsU8N6XCNZ2PAavBftbquV+dGma0Vod/a95EKHv 2iYrzvve+wYx81J+J7GHNfS6Aft3aVGJjohxKrOGWOtzBqGOhFAa8AvEda/EqPSa /YcS5IN1FMeXT9mu2I342GcyVBGFvZQ9Hc7Bgx5UJmNIBFWwG7Ul6G/TDdBPWcxX PEooyLnvteZSlEHsX8CLLfo8Y8pqVEQTmxw/758P5EvczMnaKKBjfu8jVNOVWCvI iDeXl8LuTwGMZC5ZKDjzg87Y+bZSzkrVz9ie4NCo5mzlULsJRO+mIdSaMdjinwFi tdmHBqYz1O7I1bXwZjy/pASbt/UaIKy4fTL0VtcfiUCr/XX6QjsQA/ZBiF6DXZaE 6JhKknlk3+V/F8VeUTo= =uQSa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- </pre> Stéphane Graber 2012-04-19T09:40:57 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.qa/1528 <pre>Hi, following on from yesterdays QA meeting, the work-around options for a kernel bug[1] which should only affect few [2]. With thanks to Tom, the OP, and the devs who have doggedly followed this bug. Regards, Phill. [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/966403 [2] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Workarounds#Entire_disk_with_encryption_doesn.27t_prompt_for_disk_password&lt;http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Workarounds?action=diff&amp;rev1=20&amp;rev2=21&gt; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw </pre> Phill Whiteside 2012-04-19T02:16:53 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.qa/1523 <pre> Hi, I'm Richard Palomino (Richard.m.palomino.15-JqjfoWyBA7WUArH+D2fLrA&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org) and I'd be interested in adopting one of the ISO's. I can run one of the amd64 versions alongside Windows 7 on my laptop. Specs: Lenovo T420 2nd gen core i7 vPro No dedicated graphics card </pre> Richard M. Palomino 2012-04-17T18:03:00 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.qa/1518 <pre>Hi, I doing the 'Install (ubiquity) in Ubuntu DVD amd64 for Precise Daily' test case in a Virtual Machine with Oracle VirtualBox. It installed OK and rebooted as expected. After running sudo apt-get update and opening Update Manager it asked, 'Not all updates can be installed' 'Run a partial upgrade, to install as many updates as possible. ' I tried the Partial Upgrade but got an error message 'Can't guess meta-package' 'Your system does not contain a ubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop, xubuntu-desktop or edubuntu package and it was not possible to detect which version of Ubuntu you are running. Please install one of the packages above first using synaptic or apt-get before processing. ' ubuntu-desktop is installed and the newest version (sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop). Thanks, Russell Hart </pre> Russell Hart 2012-04-17T22:12:59 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.qa/1516 <pre>i would like to test iso please. loving 12.04 and would like to help any way i can :-) </pre> Eric Faulkes 2012-04-17T18:01:16 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.qa/1514 <pre>Hi everybody, As suggested in the paragraph "How do I Get Involved?" on the wiki, let me introduce myself. Before I begin, I want to apologize for my English. I am French, and like all French people, I don't speek very well in a foreign language ... :-) I'm 38 and I live in Montreux, Switzerland. For those who love jazz, he must know this city ... I am IT Engineer at Lausanne University Hospital and I particularly like tested Ubuntu here. In short, I have time and would love to help you. So if on one project or another, you need some help, I'm at your disposal. Really. I hope you accept me in your community because I am motivated to be part of it. See you soon and wish you a great day. Olivier </pre> Olibondo 2012-04-17T08:17:30 Search the mailing list at Gmane query http://search.gmane.org/?group=$group=gmane.linux.ubuntu.qa