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Efficient Storage of Media Files

Christopher R. Antila — 2012-05-23T22:22:36

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Hello:

Several weeks ago, somebody wrote to the list about the continually
growing size of the Docs web.git repository. I took a look around, and
confessed that most of the storage is taken up by multiple copies of
the Musicians' Guide. It's time to fix this.

I uploaded the audio files to SoundCloud long ago, but I don't think
we should use them as our primary place to hose this content. For the
"Ardour" chapter, we cannot host the files for licensing reasons...
aside from that, I feel it's better for us to be self-sufficient and
host our own files.

They're actually not that large (less than 100 MiB). The problem is
that Publican copies the audio files every time the Guide is published
in any language. We really only need one copy of the audio files. They
don't change between releases, and they're not translated.

POSSIBLE SOLUTION: Can I make a static directory in the web.git
repository, just for the Musicians' Guide's audio files? Then delete
all the current copies, and replace with a symlink?

I don't want to do first and ask questions later, just in case it
would interfere with Publican... that would be bad news so close to a
release!


Christopher.
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Self-introduction

Alexander Moore — 2012-05-22T19:23:56

I have written a lot of academic papers for my English classes. I covered a
variety of topics in those papers. I wrote a screen play based on the
"Killer Angles" novel by Michael Shaara. I wrote a descriptive paper on
series and parallel electrical circuitries and another descriptive paper on
the process of long division. I can go on about the history of Linux for
15-20 pages. I am two years into studying for a BS in Electrical
Engineering so my skill set is a beginner's level of c and c++ and I am
taking a java class over the summer. I am learning a lot about linux from
Fedora 16's documentation and I want to be able to keep it easy to learn
for users of future version. I am getting a "service unavailable" prompt
when I tried to sync my key with server specified.

Thank you.

[Bug 823654] New: Wrong FreeIPA Guide for F16

2012-05-21T19:32:00

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=823654

            Bug ID: 823654
        QA Contact: docs< at >lists.fedoraproject.org
          Severity: medium
           Version: devel
          Priority: unspecified
                CC: eric< at >christensenplace.us, oglesbyzm< at >gmail.com,
                    stickster< at >gmail.com
          Assignee: nobody< at >fedoraproject.org
           Summary: Wrong FreeIPA Guide for F16
        Regression: ---
      Story Points: ---
    Classification: Fedora
                OS: Linux
          Reporter: cevich< at >redhat.com
              Type: Bug
     Documentation: ---
          Hardware: All
        Mount Type: ---
            Status: NEW
         Component: docs-requests
           Product: Fedora Documentation

Description of problem:
Fedora 16 uses FreeIPA 2.1.x, and the FreeIPA.org site correcty points it's doc
link at the 2,1,3 fedora documentation. However, the FreeIPA Guide listed under
Fedora 16 is for version 2.2.x which isn't available, though is slated for
Fedora 17 (I believe).

Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):
Fedora 16 Documentation

How reproducible:
Very

Steps to Reproduce:
1. https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/16/html/FreeIPA_Guide/index.html
2. https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/15/html/FreeIPA_Guide/index.html

Actual results:
Fedora 16 users reference documentation for a much newer version of FreeIPA.

Expected results:
Fedora 16 users reference documentation relevant to availabe FreeIPA version.

Additional info:
I don't believe there is much different between FreeIPA 2.1.3 and 2.1.4 which
currently ships, it's probably fine to just keep referencing the 2.1.3 docs for
Fedora 16.

Tech Republic article about the LIve Docs

Ben Cotton — 2012-05-21T15:38:54

Please take a bow, jwulf:

http://tek.io/JiJIfv

Docs meeting summary -- 21 May 2012

Ben Cotton — 2012-05-21T15:12:21

Meeting summary
---------------
* Roll Call  (bcotton, 14:00:49)

* Follow up on last week's action items  (bcotton, 14:03:43)

* Schedule slip  (bcotton, 14:04:09)
  * GA is now May 29  (bcotton, 14:04:15)
  * the published RN and Docs schedules do not yet reflect this change
    (bcotton, 14:04:30)

* Release Notes  (bcotton, 14:07:01)
  * AGREED: Release Notes rpm changelogs will drop changes older than
    N-2  (bcotton, 14:16:11)

* Guide Status  (bcotton, 14:16:55)
  * Guide owners shoudl coordinate with pkovar and shaiton to clean up
    lang codes before GA  (bcotton, 14:18:37)
  * LINK:
    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Setting_up_a_document_with_Transifex#Step_5:_Map_Language_Codes
    (bcotton, 14:20:30)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=816765   (bcotton,
    14:21:19)

* Open Help Conference  (bcotton, 14:29:09)
  * LINK: http://openhelpconference.com   (bcotton, 14:29:15)
  * Open Help Conference is Aug 11-15 in Cincinnati, OH  (bcotton,
    14:29:21)

* FUDcon KL report  (bcotton, 14:42:18)
  * comments welcome on Live Docs screencast  (bcotton, 14:47:54)
  * LINK: www.fedorareloaded.com/index.html   (bcotton, 14:48:01)
  * LINK: http://kushal.fedorapeople.org/book/   (jwulf, 14:48:35)

* Open floor discussion  (bcotton, 14:55:23)

Meeting ended at 14:57:16 UTC.

Action Items
------------

Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* **UNASSIGNED**
  * (none)

People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* bcotton (44)
* jwulf (39)
* jjmcd (35)
* pkovar (13)
* claneys (7)
* jsmith (6)
* randomuser (5)
* lnovich (4)
* zodbot (3)
* jwulf_ (2)
* Capesteve (2)
* Sparks (1)
* jhradilek (1)

Minutes:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-05-21/fedora_docs.2012-05-21-14.00.html
Minutes (text):
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-05-21/fedora_docs.2012-05-21-14.00.txt
Log:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-05-21/fedora_docs.2012-05-21-14.00.log.html

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[Bug 822855] New: please merge 'fr_FR' transifex team under 'fr'

2012-05-18T10:39:32

Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional
comments should be made in the comments box of this bug.

Summary: please merge 'fr_FR' transifex team under 'fr'

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=822855

           Summary: please merge 'fr_FR' transifex team under 'fr'
           Product: Fedora Documentation
           Version: devel
          Platform: Unspecified
        OS/Version: Unspecified
            Status: NEW
          Severity: urgent
          Priority: unspecified
         Component: virtualization-guide
        AssignedTo: docs< at >lists.fedoraproject.org
        ReportedBy: kev.raymond< at >gmail.com
         QAContact: docs-qa< at >lists.fedoraproject.org
                CC: oglesbyzm< at >gmail.com
    Classification: Fedora
      Story Points: ---
              Type: Bug
        Regression: ---
        Mount Type: ---
     Documentation: ---


Once again, please merge the'fr_FR' transifex team under 'fr'.
And then delete the fr_FR one.

fr_FR is not the only duplicated team.

See #816765

Self-Introduction: Jefferson Campos (Jeff - foguinhoperuca)

Jefferson Luiz Oliveira de Campos — 2012-05-17T14:16:52

Hello everybody!

My name is Jefferson Campos, but you can call me "Jeff". I am Brazilian,
from Sorocaba, São Paulo (en: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorocaba, pt_br:
http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorocaba or http://www.sorocaba.sp.gov.br/). I
am 25 year old. My main language is Portuguese (Brazilian Portuguese) but,
despite the simplicity, I can speak in English too.

I started with computer when I was 8 years old (3 if count my first
video-game). My first computer was a "XT" (monitor: background was black
and foreground was green!) then I owned a 386 PC and then a 486. That was a
good time! Now I own a modern computer :D

When I was 16 years old I went to "technical high school" (we call "escola
técnica" in Brazil) and started study about IT. When I was 20 I went to
college (Technologist, Computer Science). With 24 I went to college again
(Undergraduation, Mathematics).

I worked with programming (web programming and java) and mobile phone
programming too. I worked with GNU/Linux as system administrator too. I
have more experience with Debian-like system (and Ubuntu too) but I want
learn more about the "Red Hat GNU/Linux tree". Today I work at Municipal
City Hall of Sorocaba as system analyst.

Curiosity: I have one tattoo of tux in my chest (left side)!
https://plus.google.com/photos/109609086775527240560/albums/5743312857295378897
(my
Google Plus profile with the picture).

Presentation using Fedora's guideline:

What other projects or writing have you worked on in the past?
Windows. I worked with Java and web programming and worked at a mobile
startup in Rio de Janeiro (Brazil). I have Some free software projects:
http://code.google.com/p/awknet/ (Java library);
https://github.com/foguinhoperuca (my github profile);
http://sourceforge.net/projects/sigerar (SIGERAR - a requirement management
system).

What level and type of computer skills do you have?
have a good knowledge about GNU/Linux too, but I worked with Debian-like
distros.

What other skills do you have that might be applicable? User interface
design, other so-called soft skills (people skills), programming, etc.
teach too. Cooking is a great hobby too!

What makes you an excellent match for the project?
bring Linux for our Municipal City Hall administration

GPG KEYID and fingerprint

And for the last but not the least: my public profiles and links:

Social:
Google plus (main pages about me:
https://plus.google.com/109609086775527240560/about)
Linkedin account: http://br.linkedin.com/in/jeffersoncampos
facebook: https://www.facebook.com/foguinho.peruca

Code:
github: https://github.com/foguinhoperuca
sourceforge: https://github.com/foguinhoperuca
google code: http://code.google.com/p/awknet/

PS: I am sorry for my bad english. You can help me improve this skill, if
you want.

Docs meeting summary -- 14 May 2012

Ben Cotton — 2012-05-15T20:12:53

Meeting summary
---------------
* Roll Call  (bcotton, 14:00:40)

* Release Notes  (bcotton, 14:03:32)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Notes_schedule
    (bcotton, 14:03:38)
  * New RPM -- needs karma  (bcotton, 14:04:01)
  * LINK:
    https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/fedora-release-notes-17.0.1-1.fc17
    (jjmcd, 14:04:03)
  * LINK:
    https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classification=Fedora&product=Fedora%20Documentation&component=release-notes&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=MODIFIED&bug_status=ON_DEV&bug_status=ON_QA&bug_status=VERIFIED&bug_status=FAILS_QA&bug_status=RELEASE_PENDING&bug_status=POST
    (jjmcd, 14:06:46)
  * jjmcd is awesome  (bcotton, 14:07:51)
  * ACTION: bcotton to run a cronjob in the late evening EDT to tx pull
    and push to f17  (bcotton, 14:15:21)

* Guide Status  (bcotton, 14:20:19)
  * LINK:
    http://rbergero.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-17/f-17-docs-tree-tasks.html
    (bcotton, 14:20:35)
  * Capesteve will finish updating the Wireless Guide  (bcotton,
    14:24:52)

* RN location  (bcotton, 14:28:02)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=694075   (bcotton,
    14:28:16)
  * AGREED: We decided that we would make a note in the RNs that they
    will move next release  (bcotton, 14:31:59)

* Open Help Conference  (bcotton, 14:32:07)
  * LINK: http://openhelpconference.com   (bcotton, 14:32:13)
  * Open Help Conference is Aug 11-15 in Cincinnati, OH  (bcotton,
    14:32:20)

* Outstanding BZ Tickets  (bcotton, 14:33:59)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=816765   (bcotton,
    14:34:33)

* Open floor discussion  (bcotton, 14:43:58)
  * comments on http://www.fedorareloaded.com/instructions.html welcome
    (bcotton, 14:46:01)
  * Thursday is the Release Readiness meeting. bcotton plans to report
    "yeah, we're ready"  (bcotton, 14:48:04)

Meeting ended at 14:56:38 UTC.

Action Items
------------
* bcotton to run a cronjob in the late evening EDT to tx pull and push
  to f17

Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* bcotton
  * bcotton to run a cronjob in the late evening EDT to tx pull and push
    to f17
* **UNASSIGNED**
  * (none)

People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* bcotton (55)
* jjmcd (36)
* pkovar (25)
* nb (14)
* Capesteve (12)
* claneys (9)
* lnovich (8)
* zodbot (4)
* suehle (1)
* jhradilek (1)

Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-05-14/fedora_docs.2012-05-14-14.00.txt
Minutes (html):
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-05-14/fedora_docs.2012-05-14-14.00.html
Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-05-14/fedora_docs.2012-05-14-14.00.log.html

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The Fedora ring tone

Valentin Laskov — 2012-05-13T21:24:24

Hi all!
I would like to install The Fedora Ring Tone on my phone. :)
I think, there is no such tone, but this may be a good idea and I would
like to file a bug for this. :)
Which project against I can file a bug?

Best regards!
Valentin Laskov

64-bit version in Release Notes

Valentin Laskov — 2012-05-12T17:06:55

Hi all,

In f.p.o website, by default for downloading will be Fedora 17 64-bit 
version. I think that this must be mentioned in the Release notes.

Best regards!
Valentin Laskov

Fedora 17 guides

Petr Kovar — 2012-05-09T17:17:14

Hi translators,

Just to let you know what Fedora guides have been pushed to Transifex
recently.

* Burning ISOs:

https://www.transifex.net/projects/p/fedora-readme-burning-isos/

* Live Images:

https://fedora.transifex.net/projects/p/fedora-readme-live-images/

* Software Collections Guide:

https://fedora.transifex.net/projects/p/software-collections-guide/

This is a brand new document, which discusses Software Collections that
allow users to concurrently install multiple versions of the same RPM
packages on the system. Using the scl utility, users may enable specific
versions of RPMs which are installed into the /opt directory.

* System Administrator's Guide:

https://www.transifex.net/projects/p/system-administrators-guide/

* User Guide:

https://www.transifex.net/projects/p/fedora-user-guide/


For more info on guides, refer to:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_guides_table


Happy translating,
Petr Kovar

Release Notes - Ukranian and Bulgarian translations

John J. McDonough — 2012-05-08T13:27:55

Please visit

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/fedora-release-notes-17.0.0-1.fc17

Check out the RPM and the translations and give karma.  This corrects
all the outstanding bugs.

There are a few new untranslated strings.

 - I added a revision history entry for 17.0 but Publican seems to
   think this is already translated.
 - I added the Bulgarian and Ukranian translators names to the
   contributors - these shouldn't need to be translated.

I will continue to build new RPMs as new translations become available.

--McD

Meeting Summary - May 7, 2012

John J. McDonough — 2012-05-07T15:11:20

Minutes:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-05-07/fedora_docs.2012-05-07-14.01.html
Minutes (text):
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-05-07/fedora_docs.2012-05-07-14.01.txt
Log:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-05-07/fedora_docs.2012-05-07-14.01.log.html

===================================================================================================
#fedora-meeting: Docs Project Meeting - Agenda:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_meetings
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Meeting started by bcotton at 14:01:40 UTC. The full logs are available
at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-05-07/fedora_docs.2012-05-07-14.01.log.html
.

Meeting summary
---------------
* Roll Call  (bcotton, 14:01:54)

* Release Notes  (bcotton, 14:06:11)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Notes_schedule
    (bcotton, 14:06:17)
  * karma early and karma often  (bcotton, 14:09:04)
  * thanks to bug providers  (jjmcd, 14:09:37)

* Guide Status  (bcotton, 14:11:33)
  * LINK:

http://rbergero.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-17/f-17-docs-tree-tasks.html
    (bcotton, 14:11:39)
  * String Freeze today  (bcotton, 14:11:46)
  * LINK:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAQ#How_do_I_configure_network_connections.3F_How_does_Fedora_support_wireless_connections.3F
    (claneys, 14:24:54)
  * ACTION: Capesteve to investigate incorporating Admin Guide changes
    into Wireless Guide  (jjmcd, 14:27:47)
  * ACTION: jjmcd to check with nb on moving WG into git from SVN
    (jjmcd, 14:33:01)
  * ACTION: Sparks to open question on list of merging SSH guide into
    another  (jjmcd, 14:38:26)
  * ACTION: randomuser to investigate issue with branching tech notes
    (jjmcd, 14:44:08)
  * ACTION: pkovar to warn L10n of guides ready for translation  (jjmcd,
    14:49:17)

* Open Help Conference  (jjmcd, 14:52:09)

* Outstanding BZ Tickets  (jjmcd, 14:56:02)
  * LINK: http://tinyurl.com/lbrq84   (jjmcd, 14:56:10)

* Open floor discussion  (jjmcd, 14:58:59)

Meeting ended at 15:03:06 UTC.

Action Items
------------
* Capesteve to investigate incorporating Admin Guide changes into
  Wireless Guide
* jjmcd to check with nb on moving WG into git from SVN
* Sparks to open question on list of merging SSH guide into another
* randomuser to investigate issue with branching tech notes
* pkovar to warn L10n of guides ready for translation

Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* Capesteve
  * Capesteve to investigate incorporating Admin Guide changes into
    Wireless Guide
* jjmcd
  * jjmcd to check with nb on moving WG into git from SVN
* nb
  * jjmcd to check with nb on moving WG into git from SVN
* pkovar
  * pkovar to warn L10n of guides ready for translation
* randomuser
  * randomuser to investigate issue with branching tech notes
* Sparks
  * Sparks to open question on list of merging SSH guide into another
* **UNASSIGNED**
  * (none)

People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* jjmcd (76)
* pkovar (20)
* Capesteve (17)
* Sparks (15)
* bcotton (15)
* randomuser (11)
* sgordon (11)
* claneys (9)
* zodbot (6)
* adamw (3)
* nb (3)
* jhradilek (3)

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Introducing my self and one idea

Neville A. Cross — 2012-05-06T00:26:06

I am ambassador and currently a chair in FAmSCo.

I want to learn how to make technical documents like using
docbook/publican.

My idea is that this is one os the least developed skills in Central
America countries. So I was dreaming of setup a workshop where a
Documentation guru came to Nicaragua, and we invite people from El
Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras and Costa Rica to join us for a weekend
FAD in documentation. Learning and then documenting something that was
wanted but nobody has picked up to do it.

Probably will be to far for Panamá to travel by bus, and air fares are
expensive to bring many people.

I can offer to set up a saloon for the weekend free of charge. So we
have a working space.  

There is somebody that is available to travel some time? If that so, we
can start to shaping a FAD. I can also make a budget of foreseen
expenses so we can figure out how much this will cost. Probably
something to worry when submitting the idea to FAmSCo for budget
allocation.

It this too crazy? 

In thew mean time I have get a O'Reilly DocBook Guide to start my
learning.

Best regards

Fedora 17 Release Notes and "Automatic Multi-Seat Support"

Kay Sievers — 2012-05-02T21:16:31

Hey,

can we please add a sentence to the Fedora 17 Release Notes about the
new out-of-the-box multi-seat setup?

It's the first time for Linux to be able to support something like
that properly in the Base OS, or without complex manual configuration,
or without adding additional software. It's a useful feature for
schools and other setups where several people want or need to share a
single computer.

We like to get the word out and have Fedora taking the credit for
being the first distro, and also for letting us do all that in the
distro.

Details and background is here:
 http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/multi-seat.html
 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=plugable_multiseat_kick

Thanks,
Kay

Another anaconda noloader change to document for F17: must specifyrepo= when doing direct kernel boot (e.g. PXE)

Adam Williamson — 2012-05-02T20:53:13

So I thought of one more big F17 change that should go in the release
notes and/or install guide, when it comes to installation.

There are a few use cases for doing a 'direct boot' of the Fedora
installer: that is, you don't actually boot from any release medium, but
you boot the installer kernel/initrd directly, manually. The most
obvious case is a PXE install.

In F16, you really _only_ needed to specify the kernel and initrd
location, and the install would work - kernel/initrd got you stage1, and
stage1 got you stage2. With noloader, this is no longer the case: when
you're doing a direct kernel boot, you need to tell it where to find
'stage2'. In other words: you have to pass repo= or stage2= (or
inst.repo= or inst.stage2=, as it's now preferred), pointing to a
repository. If you want to get just the stage2 image from one server but
then the installation packages from some other server, you have to use
stage2= : repo= should only be used if the server you're pointing to
contains everything needed for the install (both the stage2 image _and_
all the packages you want to install). Note that stage2= still expects
to see a 'repository' tree, you can't just pass the path direct to a
squashfs.img file (which is how stage2= worked when it previously
existed in F15 and earlier).

label linux
kernel vmlinuz
append initrd=initrd.img

(or something like that), you need:

label linux
kernel vmlinuz
append initrd=initrd.img repo=http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/development/17/x86_64/os/

or:

label linux
kernel vmlinuz
append initrd=initrd.img stage2=http://my.internal.server/17/x86_64/os/

(or any other valid mirror).

Publishing docs

Walter Cheuk — 2012-05-01T13:45:02

Technical Notes is now 100% translated into Chinese (Taiwan) (zh_TW).
Should I ask for it be published as described in [1] or it will got
published automatically? And how can I test it and can it be modified
after published?


Regards,
Walter Cheuk

[1]: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Guide#Publishing_Docs

Release Notes Packaging

John J. McDonough — 2012-04-30T20:07:49

I updated the page about pushing the release notes:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Getting_the_release_notes_to_Bodhi

to reflect some of the d-p-r steps in a little more detail, particularly
the edits to the spec file which I often forget.

I also made some minor tweaks to
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Preparing_the_Release_Notes_for_final_release

to reflect the new URL for tx

At 10,000 feet the steps are:
  1. Update the revision history
  2. Remove the draft tag
  3. Build all languages to be packaged
  4. Grab the specfile from fedpkg
  5. Edit the specfile changelog and description
  6. Run d-p-r using the edited specfile
  7. Do a scratch build to double-check
  8. Give fedpkg the tar and spec made by d-p-r
  9. Go get karma

Sounds like a lot but usually it takes about an hour.

--McD