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Evince and annotation support

Ankur Sinha — 2012-05-25T10:54:51

Hello folks,

I've been looking for a pdf reader that provides annotation support.
It's a must for us research students that need to go through large
amounts of academic text. I ran into this bug[1] that says that Evince
would have annotation support in F15 (It was closed as "rawhide" long
back). I'm on the latest F17 system, but I can't find this in Evince
here. Would someone know what the status is? I've filed a fresh bug
too.[2]

I'm considering moving to okular or xournal which appear to have
annotation support out of necessity. However, I'd much prefer to stick
to my gnome set of tools :)

[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530238
[2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=825198

Beta RC3 available, please help with desktop validation

Adam Williamson — 2012-04-04T18:32:32

Hey, folks. 17 Beta RC3 is finally available now, please help with
desktop validation!

http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/17-Beta.RC3/

KDE, Xfce and LXDE are pretty close to RC2, I think. GNOME 3.4 is in, so
Desktop has changed. We did test with an unofficial 'pre-RC3' live image
with GNOME 3.4 built in and found it passed all validation tests, so
that's good, but we should re-do them with the official build just to
make sure. Thanks!

As always, instructions and results matrix at:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_17_Beta_RC3_Desktop

thanks again!

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Sanjay Patil — 2012-03-26T04:15:15

Only fingerprint authentication to unlock screen in Gnome3 F16?

Ankur Sinha — 2012-03-24T22:06:47

Hello,

I recently got my fingerprint reader to work. I can now use it to log in
to my system as an alternative to entering the password. However, when I
lock my screen (ctrl alt l), or when it gets locked with the
screen-saver automatically, I cannot enter my password to unlock it. The
only way to unlock it is the fingerprint reader. The text box is greyed
out. Is this intentional? Shouldn't both methods be available? eg
(happened today): If I'm snacking at my desk and my right hand is
unclean, I would like to type in my password with my left hand and get
on with some work (like check mails or view a video or surf the web
etc.) Of course, in this scenario my right index finger is the
registered one.

If I click on switch user and go back to the gdm login screen, I can
then use both the password and fingerprint reader to login to my user
again, but this isn't the same really. 

Can someone please confirm this behaviour? I shall file a bug if it is
one.

Fedora 17 Beta RC1 desktop validation needed

Adam Williamson — 2012-03-23T20:51:06

Hey folks!

By some miracle we've managed to get Fedora 17 Beta RC1 out almost on
time:

http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/17-Beta.RC1/

As always, we need to do the desktop validation for it. See the desktop
validation page:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_17_Beta_RC1_Desktop

And please, if you can, help us to fill in the results for your
desktops. Desktop team, I know we didn't get 3.3.92 into Beta and sorry
about that, but we do need to check it passes the validation tests - the
ones for Beta aren't too difficult and shouldn't take long to do, so if
you can help that'd be great.

I have done a smoke test on all four desktops; they all boot okay to a
sane looking desktop and successfully install to hard disk and boot from
hard disk, so they're all clearly testable, not DOA.

Thanks everyone!

Fwd: Re: Release Notes Update

Paul W. Frields — 2012-03-21T14:49:19

From the docs< at > list, FYI, in case someone has some time in which they
can contribute to release notes for desktop, system daemons, web
servers, or for that matter any other existing beats:

----- Forwarded message from "John J. McDonough" <wb8rcr< at >arrl.net> -----

On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 23:27 -0400, Christopher R. Antila wrote:

That would be much appreciated.  I need to get cracking on the RPM or it
won't make it into beta.  I see we have KDE there but no GNOME.  Without
some help there will be no mention of GNOME 3.4 in the RNs (other than a
word in Overview).  Also, there are some minimal notes in Musicians.  Do
they need to be embellished or will we leave that beat blank?

On https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_Beats I have marked as
empty those beats that I think will be empty in the release notes.  If
anyone feels like that is a problem you only have a few hours to fix it.

I'm going to get working on the Multimedia beat.  If anyone could grab
the Daemons beat it would be much appreciated.  Or the other way around,
if someone wants to take Multimedia while I work on Daemons that would
work, too.

Also, Yuri made some notes in Web Servers.  If he or someone else could
embellish those it would be good.

I anticipate building the RPM around 1800Z. I will then be looking for
folks to quickly give it some karma.


--McD

----- End forwarded message -----

Testing Empathy: audio and voice calls

Debarshi Ray — 2012-03-20T14:50:24

I am looking for someone who will be interested in acting as a dummy
to test audio and video calls using the Empathy / Telepathy stack in
Fedora 17.

The way I plan to do it is to place a few audio calls to the dummy
from a few Jabber servers, and then ask the dummy to call me back.
Will repeat the process with video calls.

If something does not work as expected, we might have to repeat the
particular call to try and reproduce the problem, save the logs, etc..

Please contact me offlist if you are interested.

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Two questions / bugs / issues with Fedora 17 Desktop, minor but kindaimportant for user experience [FIXED MESSAGE]

Elad Alfassa — 2012-03-15T17:50:09

Looking at the desktop archives to make sure my message got into the
list, I noticed it was split in a strange way. I don't know who's
fault is that, gmail or mailman.
To make sure you all got this message properly, here is a copy of it.

Sorry.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Elad Alfassa <elad< at >fedoraproject.org>
Date: Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 7:30 PM
Subject: Two questions / bugs / issues with Fedora 17 Desktop, minor
but kinda important for user experience
To: Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop
<desktop< at >lists.fedoraproject.org>

1) who decided that system-config-date is to be installed by default
and given the confusing (for new users) system-config-date as a name
in the menu?
From IRC:
<adamw> elad661: it's called 'system-config-date' because it was
previously called Date and Time. see the problem with that?
<elad661> yes, I do
<elad661> but I think we could either remove it (since gnome's control
panel provides the functionality) or find a better name.
<elad661> we probably need it for firstboot, so removing the desktop
file might be a good idea

2) why is "remote desktop viewer" installed by default? I thought
gnome boxes provides this functionality now.

--
-Elad Alfassa.

--
-Elad Alfassa.

Two questions / bugs / issues with Fedora 17 Desktop, minor but kindaimportant for user experience

Elad Alfassa — 2012-03-15T17:30:37

1) who decided that system-config-date is to be installed by default and
given the confusing (for new users) system-config-date as a name in the
menu?
From IRC:
<adamw> elad661: it's called 'system-config-date' because it was previously
called Date and Time. see the problem with that?
<elad661> yes, I do
<elad661> but I think we could either remove it (since gnome's control
panel provides the functionality) or find a better name.
<elad661> we probably need it for firstboot, so removing the desktop file
might be a good idea

2) why is "remote desktop viewer" installed by default? I thought gnome
boxes provides this functionality now.

Usb wireless keyboard and Gnome

Jóhann B. Guðmundsson — 2012-03-07T16:40:54

Greetings

Yesterday I did an an F15 to an F16 upgrade via preupgrade for a media 
center for a friend of mine and came across an interesting bug.

The upgrade process went with out an hitch except for the wireless 
keyboard no longer worked for the relevant user account after the upgrade.

I confirmed that the usb wireless keyboard worked just fine in grub and 
gdm and for new user account but as soon as I logged in using the old 
account it stopped working.

Deleting the .config directory seemed to fix this but I'm unsure to what 
I should be filing against.

I should mention that not having the option to reboot was a real pita in 
this case so the initial design decision to remove reboot/shutdown 
clearly did not take into the account users that might suddenly find 
themselves without an working keyboard in Gnome.

JBG

Desktop SIG's position on muffin and cinnamon

Christoph Wickert — 2012-02-26T23:35:14

Hi there,

it doesn't directly affect you, nevertheless I thought I'd let you know
that I filed a ticket about muffin and cinnamon in FESCo's trac at
https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/810

I have serious concerns about letting forks like these enter Fedora -
not to mention the zombie called Mate. Therefor I think we should
clarify our position on forks in general and these ones in particular.
Would be nice to get an upstream statement from one of you guys.

Kind regards,
Christoph

Auto login feature into desktop

Neoh Yuen Sim — 2012-02-12T16:37:53

Hi,

I was confused why desktop still asked for password even when i set the
Automatic login feature to ON. I submitted the bug as below:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=786663

As you can see, they think that is a feature, not a bug, so it was closed.
It leaves me wondering: what is that automatic login feature really for?!!


regards

Neoh

Firefox UI on linux

Nikos Roussos — 2012-02-10T11:17:06

Hi,

Let me first introduce myself. I'm a Fedora Ambassador and Packager. I also
participate in the Mozilla community, and this is the reason for this
email, hoping that this is the right list for this :)

Mozilla is considering on making some changes on Firefox UI for Linux that
will affect the integration of Firefox on the GTK environment.

Due to these changes they re looking for people from the Fedora (and Gnome)
desktop team to get some feedback and see what's the best way to proceed.

It would be nice if someone (or more) from the Desktop team come in touch
with the Mozilla team, so please let me know so I can introduce you to the
people working on this.

missing gnome-keyring-devel

Rahul Sundaram — 2012-02-02T01:53:29

Hi

This is a dependency of deja-dup and seems to have silently obsoleted.
Changelog shows https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=771299 as a
pointer but it is unclear to me what am I supposed to do?

Rahul

Another build requirement to package: libwacom

Raphael Groner — 2011-12-22T13:53:07

Add your wish to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Package_maintainers_wishlist

Linpus

Raphael Groner — 2011-12-22T13:46:20

The first thing I did on my Acer that have had preinstalled Linpus: Install a distribution that can be used.


To be honest, what is the sense of Linpus? Fedora is not a meta distribution like Debian. It would be like comparing Linpus (Fedora) to Ubuntu (Debian), or apples with pies.

Please take a look to the efforts to port systemd or Unity to other main stream distributions. First, you have to solve a lot of dependency problems cause of the differences in package versions. Please don't start that chaos also on Fedora, ... okay for unstable/rawhide.
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Revamping packagekit layout?

Luya Tshimbalanga — 2011-12-21T20:08:51

Hello all,
Looking at Linpus Linux, a Fedora-based distro, its add/remove software has
some interesting ideas like
disk space. Perhaps it will be a good time  to make packagekit more
attractive. Comments are welcome.

http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2011/12/19/linpus-lite-1-6-desktop-edition-screenshot-preview/

Another build requirement to package: libwacom

Bastien Nocera — 2011-12-16T18:42:26

Heya,

It would be great if somebody could package up libwacom:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/linuxwacom/files/libwacom/

It will be needed by the next version of gnome-settings-daemon and
gnome-control-center to provide support for Wacom tablets.

There's not much code in libwacom, and I expect the bugs against it to
be of the "sheperd data files to upstream" kind.

I'd be happy to review it if somebody packages.

Cheers

What are we going to do about the broken modifiers?

Christoph Wickert — 2011-12-10T10:27:40

Recent gtk updates have changed the way modifiers are handled and
therefor broken a lot of applications.
      * ALT keys are broken in all gtk based terminals. There is a patch
        for vte available at
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=626792 but even
        though it works, it seems controversial.
      * xfwm4 has lost all keyboard shortcuts using CTRL. See bug
        https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=759478

Even if the old to handle modifiers may have been wrong, this change
should not have gone into a stable release, because it breaks a lot of
applications (at least gnome-terminal, Terminal, lilyterm, sakura,
termit, terminator, xfwm4) and violates the "Avoid changing the user
experience if at all possible" rule of our updates policy.

What are we going to do now? Revert the change in gtk or fix all
applications?

Regards,
Christoph

Disable/remove "libsocialweb-core"

Jóhann B. Guðmundsson — 2011-11-29T00:44:45

Given that I've noticed that "libsocialweb-core" is very keen on 
speaking to "r-199-59-148-87.twttr.com" A.K.A twitter on port 443 
without me as little as have configured twitter account let alone having 
any "online accounts" configured in Gnome which makes one wonder what 
the hell they are chatting about I would very much like to know how I 
can disable it all together since I cant remove this from my computer 
without removing gnomeshell along with it.

Any particular reason why this was not designed to be an 
extension/addon/plugin to Gnome3?

Thanks
             JBG

Make Xfce the default desktop

Gantry York — 2011-11-19T21:27:17

Unity has proven to be a huge mis-step for Ubuntu.  There is an equal 
amount of consternation regarding GNOME3-shell.

I would strongly recommend that Fedora and Red Hat consider using Xfce 
as their default desktop.

The majority of Fedora/Red Hat users, use GNOME on a computer 
workstation.  I think Fedora and Red Hat have to choose which platform 
they feel is their niche market:  touch pads, or workstations.