http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.education.libraries.autocat hourly 1 1901-01-01T00:00+00:00 http://gmane.org/img/gmane-25t.png http://gmane.org http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.education.libraries.autocat/17969 Hello there, I am a rare materials cataloger and I generally follow DCRMB rules and guidelines, but I can't seem to find any rules on how to count leaves of plates when a single folded illustration comprises more than one separate leaf of plates adhered to each other edge to edge. Any suggestions? Any specific/preferred way to describe this layout in a note? Thanks S. Notarmaso *********************************************************************** E-mail AUTOCAT listowners: autocat-request-JX7+OpRa80SJISurH+wZVQ< at >public.gmane.org Search AUTOCAT archives: http://listserv.syr.edu/archives/autocat.html Selected AUTOCAT commands: http://www.cwu.edu/~dcc/Autocat/options.html By posting messages to AUTOCAT, the author does not cede copyright *********************************************************************** S. Notarmaso 2008-12-02T20:09:55 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.education.libraries.autocat/17968 Catalogers: I have about 100 "Book Guides" from Scholastic, most published in the 1990s, all requiring new OCLC input. These have caused a stir among our catalogers, with different opinions for the main entry, description, notes, subject headings, added entries, and series. The Book Guides have from 12-16 pages, are in the same format and style, and are similar except for the title of the book and specific exercises. The Book Guides do not include the text of the story. I have posted a typical Book Guide--the front cover, title page, contents page, and back cover--on a web page. Please view: http://library.ucr.edu/?view=departments/cataloging/tempexample.html Two OCLC records have been input showing differences of opinion for separate titles. Please see OCLC record numbers #264799260 and #264799082. Whatever assistance you can provide would be appreciated. You may wish to contact me directly if you have specific questions or a solution to my cataloging problem. My email address is: rivwe-3vSkeFsW7jA< at >public.gmane.org Thank you! Wendee Eyler Wendee Eyler Head, Cataloging & Bibliographic Control Unit Cataloging & Metadata Services Department Science Library / PO Box 5900 University of California, Riverside Riverside, CA 92521 rivwe-3vSkeFsW7jA< at >public.gmane.org tel: (951) 827-5052 *********************************************************************** E-mail AUTOCAT listowners: autocat-request-JX7+OpRa80SJISurH+wZVQ< at >public.gmane.org Search AUTOCAT archives: http://listserv.syr.edu/archives/autocat.html Selected AUTOCAT commands: http://www.cwu.edu/~dcc/Autocat/options.html By posting messages to AUTOCAT, the author does not cede copyright *********************************************************************** Wendee Eyler 2008-12-02T21:03:14 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.education.libraries.autocat/17964 ***DEADLINE EXTENDED TO DECEMBER 10TH, 2008*** Nominations are being accepted for the 2009 Association for Library Collections & Technical Services (ALCTS) awards for professional achievement The Esther J. Piercy Award, a $1,500 grant and citation donated by YBP, Inc., recognizes contributions to library collections and technical services by a librarian with no more than 10 years of professional experience who has shown outstanding promise for continuing contribution and leadership. Winners will be chosen based on accomplishments related to technical services and resources in such areas as: leadership in professional associations at local, state, regional or national level; contributions to the development, application or utilization of new or improved methods, techniques and routines; significant contribution to professional literature; and conduct of studies or research in the technical services. Send nominations, including a statement giving the reasons for nomination, the date your nominee entered his or her first professional position, and a resume or narrative career outline to: Keith Powell, Chair, Piercy Jury: kpowell-sXc7qaQca9o< at >public.gmane.org The deadline for nominations and supporting materials is December 1, 2008. ----------------------------- Keith Powell Head of Acquisitions - The UC Irvine Libraries 949-824-8704 -- kpowell-sXc7qaQca9o< at >public.gmane.org *********************************************************************** E-mail AUTOCAT listowners: autocat-request-JX7+OpRa80SJISurH+wZVQ< at >public.gmane.org Search AUTOCAT archives: http://listserv.syr.edu/archives/autocat.html Selected AUTOCAT commands: http://www.cwu.edu/~dcc/Autocat/options.html By posting messages to AUTOCAT, the author does not cede copyright *********************************************************************** Keith Powell 2008-12-02T17:45:26 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.education.libraries.autocat/17958 Is there a LCSH for turning one's life around, going straight, making a new start, what in Christian circles is called amendment of life? The book I have in hand is a Christian novel, so if there were such a heading as "Amendment of life" I would use it (I am assigning "Repentance"). But it would be nice to know if there were a heading that applied to both secular and Christian works. The book I have is about an ex-convict who is determined to go legit, but the women in his life want him to return to his former life of crime, which paid a lot more. I have assigned "Ex-convicts"; if there were such a heading as "Ex-criminals," I would assign that too. Miriam Weiss Schomburg Center for Research in Black Culture 515 Malcolm X Blvd., New York, NY 10037 1-212-491-2046 (voice) 1-212-491-6760 (fax) mweiss-pr8sHEKKXcY< at >public.gmane.org *********************************************************************** E-mail AUTOCAT listowners: autocat-request-JX7+OpRa80SJISurH+wZVQ< at >public.gmane.org Search AUTOCAT archives: http://listserv.syr.edu/archives/autocat.html Selected AUTOCAT commands: http://www.cwu.edu/~dcc/Autocat/options.html By posting messages to AUTOCAT, the author does not cede copyright *********************************************************************** mweiss-r9CzaW4yGYo< at >public.gmane.org 2008-12-02T17:07:28 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.education.libraries.autocat/17957 Several people have taken the trouble to share their experience with me, and on behalf of my colleagues (with whom I'll be sharing all this) a very warm Thank You. As I suspected, you need tob e specific in what you ask for, and also have to check books and/or run reports. As the amount we could order shelf-ready is limited, due to our predecessors' rewriting of LCC, it would be difficult for order clerks to select this subset, and I very much doubt we would save enough money to be worth the extra bother. But we now have some solid comment to use in our arguments, and this will be a big help. Does anyone have any figures on the number of shelf-ready books that have to be reclassified on arrival? I have a vague memory that someone said once thay had up to 20%. As I've said so often, thank goodness for AUTOCAT! Helen Helen Buhler, Classification Coordinator, The Templeman Library, The University of Kent, Canterbury, Kent CT2 7NU. Email: H.M.Buhler-eQnPN5D1UZ61Qrn1Bg8BZw< at >public.gmane.org Fax: +44 (0)1227 827107 Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy, and tasty with ketchup. *********************************************************************** E-mail AUTOCAT listowners: autocat-request-JX7+OpRa80SJISurH+wZVQ< at >public.gmane.org Search AUTOCAT archives: http://listserv.syr.edu/archives/autocat.html Selected AUTOCAT commands: http://www.cwu.edu/~dcc/Autocat/options.html By posting messages to AUTOCAT, the author does not cede copyright *********************************************************************** Helen Buhler 2008-12-02T16:28:35 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.education.libraries.autocat/17955 Could the character j for language instruction be used here for beginning readers for children, or would it be reserved for instruction in a language which is not the intended audience's first language? Marian Veld 2008-12-02T16:00:09 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.education.libraries.autocat/17954 Typo of the Day for Librarians Condiser* (for Consider, etc.) Consider this: The typo Condiser* is found nine times in the OhioLINK database, making it a typo of "moderate probability" on the Ballard list. There seems to be no good explanation for this since both the S and the D are on the same side of the keyboard; in fact, they're cozying right up to each other. (Considering that fact, though, perhaps that is the explanation.) In any case, sometimes these things just happen. It would be most considerate of you not to poke fun at this mix-up, but simply to switch the two letters around. Thanking you in advance for your consideration... ("Considerate Christa" doll, wearing a Girl Scout Brownie vest and badge.) Carol Reid Extracted, for AUTOCAT, from Typo of the Day for Librarians at http://librarytypos.blogspot.com/. If you have comments about the words selected, how they are selected, or the way the items are written, please contact Terry Ballard <terry.ballard-0awXA46M4gK+qLz4OLLJLQ< at >public.gmane.org>. *********************************************************************** E-mail AUTOCAT listowners: autocat-request-JX7+OpRa80SJISurH+wZVQ< at >public.gmane.org Search AUTOCAT archives: http://listserv.syr.edu/archives/autocat.html Selected AUTOCAT commands: http://www.cwu.edu/~dcc/Autocat/options.html By posting messages to AUTOCAT, the author does not cede copyright *********************************************************************** Carol Reid 2008-12-02T15:00:53 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.education.libraries.autocat/17949 I have read the SCM, but I am still unsure what is the correct application for headings to reflect this event. Kansas |x Anniversaries, etc. What else might be correct? Ideas welcomed. Thanks. Jane Jane Kelsey 2008-12-02T01:00:46 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.education.libraries.autocat/17944 Folks, I am cataloging a book published in Lima in 1951 whose 245 field reads: Peruvian Creole cookery / &#450;c by N&#771;a Conce ; drawings by Chama. There is an LCCN record for this in OCLC, and the record gives the 100 field as Conce with a first indicator of 1. the OCLC no. is 3340906, and the LCCN is 52023924. The prefaces (the book is parallel English/Spanish) are signed ~Na Conce. After checking on the web and with local faculty, I have not been able to find out why the ~Na was dropped from the name in the LC record. So I am curious about how to establish the heading so that it might be findable. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Laurence S. Creider 2008-12-01T21:09:41 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.education.libraries.autocat/17940 Hello: One of our catalogers discovered two incorrect links to the online version of this book: Prospects for managed underground storage of recoverable water published by National Academies Press (OCLC # 181599401; ISBN #0309114381). The current links lead to a book with a different title: Earth observations from space: the first 50 years of scientific achievement. The correct links are: http://www.nap.edu/catalog.php?record_id=12057 http://search.nap.edu/nap-cgi/de2007.cgi?term=0309114381 (to view the cloud terms) We cannot edit the record because it was created by LC. We hope someone else can. There are 122 holdings attached to this record. Thank you, Ngoc-My Guidarelli 2008-12-01T19:48:18 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.education.libraries.autocat/17930 Typo of the Day for Librarians Minesota, etc. (for Minnesota) Senate contenders Al Franken and Norm Coleman have been mining for missed and miscounted votes ever since Election Day, each one hoping to ultimately tip the scales in his favor. Coleman campaign attorney Fritz Knaak has called for a "truce" between the two camps, citing an "obscene number of ballots" being challenged in "the recount version of mutually assured destruction," according to the website MinnPost.com. Minesota is the clear winner in the Minnesota typos race, with 16 hits in OhioLINK. (Minnsota and Minnnesota are trailing with one and four respectively). Both candidates appear to have high self-esteem, but perhaps only Franken is smiling at himself in the mirror each morning, repeating: "I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it, people like me!" (Al Franken on the campaign trail, from Wikimedia Commons.) Carol Reid Extracted, for AUTOCAT, from Typo of the Day for Librarians at http://librarytypos.blogspot.com/. If you have comments about the words selected, how they are selected, or the way the items are written, please contact Terry Ballard <terry.ballard-0awXA46M4gK+qLz4OLLJLQ< at >public.gmane.org>. *********************************************************************** E-mail AUTOCAT listowners: autocat-request-JX7+OpRa80SJISurH+wZVQ< at >public.gmane.org Search AUTOCAT archives: http://listserv.syr.edu/archives/autocat.html Selected AUTOCAT commands: http://www.cwu.edu/~dcc/Autocat/options.html By posting messages to AUTOCAT, the author does not cede copyright *********************************************************************** Carol Reid 2008-12-01T15:10:26 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.education.libraries.autocat/17929 Seeing the question about shelf-ready books reminded me of a question I've been meaning to ask: are there any libraries out there that get shelf-ready books and accept the records created by the vendor as the permanent record? In other words, do you consider the quality of the records that come with your shelf-ready record good enough not to enhance or upgrade? If not, why? And how do you deal with them? If you upgrade them, do you use staff to do so or some service? If you accept them (although there might be something you don't like about them), why? Or are you generally satisfied? I am just generally interested in the kind of issues that come up at libraries who get shelf-ready books whatever the vendor. Tatiana Barr Catalog Librarian Yale University Library 203-432-8213 *********************************************************************** E-mail AUTOCAT listowners: autocat-request-JX7+OpRa80SJISurH+wZVQ< at >public.gmane.org Search AUTOCAT archives: http://listserv.syr.edu/archives/autocat.html Selected AUTOCAT commands: http://www.cwu.edu/~dcc/Autocat/options.html By posting messages to AUTOCAT, the author does not cede copyright *********************************************************************** Barr, Tatiana 2008-12-01T14:51:09 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.education.libraries.autocat/17921 Dear all, I would like to draw your attention to he following fact: If you search through ISBN 354034571x, the LC Catalogue shows the tile: "Quantum optics and quantum information : an introduction", whereas the publisher's website (www.springer.com) says : "Fundamentals of Quantum Optics and Quantum Information", and so did Amazon. Which one is true? Is it a case where the publisher has changed the title after submitting the details for CIP? with regards, Siladitya Jana ================================= Siladitya Jana Library Technician Indian Institute of Science Education and Research--Kolkata HC VII, Sector III, Kolkata 700106 http://siladityajana.googlepages.com ================================= *********************************************************************** E-mail AUTOCAT listowners: autocat-request-JX7+OpRa80SJISurH+wZVQ< at >public.gmane.org Search AUTOCAT archives: http://listserv.syr.edu/archives/autocat.html Selected AUTOCAT commands: http://www.cwu.edu/~dcc/Autocat/options.html By posting messages to AUTOCAT, the author does not cede copyright *********************************************************************** Siladitya Jana 2008-12-01T10:52:10 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.education.libraries.autocat/17916 Regards, Beverley ............................ Beverley A. Wood UWI Cave Hill *********************************************************************** E-mail AUTOCAT listowners: autocat-request-JX7+OpRa80SJISurH+wZVQ< at >public.gmane.org Search AUTOCAT archives: http://listserv.syr.edu/archives/autocat.html Selected AUTOCAT commands: http://www.cwu.edu/~dcc/Autocat/options.html By posting messages to AUTOCAT, the author does not cede copyright *********************************************************************** Wood, Beverley 2008-11-29T20:21:19 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.education.libraries.autocat/17914 Hello everybody, I request all of you for your kind help ion the following issue. Presently in our library we are processing the famous "Methods in enzymology" from Elsevier/Academic Press. But while doing that, we found that our vendor has supplied many not so perfect copies. Can anyone of you help me by giving the information about whether all the volumes of this series are available in print form or not. In the verso of the title page of some volumes the publisher has mentioned that they have transferred the old volumes into digital print. Does it apply for all the volumes and if not, for which volumes? My repeated query to the publisher yielded no reply. with regards, Siladitya Jana Siladitya Jana 2008-11-29T03:48:32 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.education.libraries.autocat/17911 MCLINC is considering hosting the following 4-day Marc of Quality cataloging workshop in 2009. The course would be held in King of Prussia, PA. We are surveying catalogers in the PA/NJ area to determine interest levels. Estimated cost for the course will depend on the number of attendees. If at least 15 people attend, the price will drop to $450 per person, which does not include any travel or lodging. No dates have been set. If you are interested please reply to me with times of the year that work best for you. This does not commit you to registering; it only helps us assess whether and when to schedule the course. ************************************** Maryam Phillips System Administrator MCLINC Montgomery County Library & Information Network Consortium 301 Fayette Street, 2nd floor Conshohocken, PA 19428 610-238-0580 phone 610-238-0581 fax mphillips-ECA1al3/21gdnm+yROfE0A< at >public.gmane.org ************************************** AACR & MARC CATALOGING WORKSHOPS Series B: Intermediate BOOK BLITZ I (4 Days) As it has been said before, "good cataloging doesn't just happen". This workshop gets right down to the nitty-gritty details about how to make MARC records that will work well in each and every truly MARC-based library automation system out there. Whether you are copy cataloging or making original records, this workshop will teach you the essential cataloging rules and MARC standards that you need to know, and how they fit together. Not only will you learn how to find your way around AACR2R, LCRI and MARC21, but you will also learn these 'Core Cataloging Skills': a.. How to describe a book in enough detail for your user's needs b.. How to assign useful search terms, such as authors, illustrators, etc. (not subject headings) c.. How to choose the correct MARC coding for a book record d.. How to decide whether or not copied records truly match your items e.. How to upgrade CIP records to provide missing data or edit changes f.. How to clone 'different edition' or 'near match' records g.. What 'bad' cataloging looks like, and how to correct it. (P.S. we spend more than 3 hours on dates alone) N.B. This is a beginner's workshop on bibliographic description, providing access points, and copy cataloging; this workshop covers books only. See other workshop descriptions below for coverage of subject headings and classification; and see Series C: Advanced for advanced 'Book Blitz' workshops and for workshops on the cataloging of non-print materials. --- avast!/SMTP2000 Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 11/27/2008 Tested on: 11/28/2008 09:14:13 -0400 avast! - copyright (c) 2000-2008 ALWIL Software. *********************************************************************** E-mail AUTOCAT listowners: autocat-request-JX7+OpRa80SJISurH+wZVQ< at >public.gmane.org Search AUTOCAT archives: http://listserv.syr.edu/archives/autocat.html Selected AUTOCAT commands: http://www.cwu.edu/~dcc/Autocat/options.html By posting messages to AUTOCAT, the author does not cede copyright *********************************************************************** Maryam Phillips 2008-11-28T14:14:11 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.education.libraries.autocat/17910 Typo of the Day for Librarians Shoppp*, Shoping, Shoper* (for Shop, etc.) "Shop till you drop" is the rallying cry of many Americans, especially on the day after Thanksgiving, also known as "Black Friday," when retailers hope their customers will put them "in the black." (In fact, the phrase got its start in Philadelphia and was originally a reference to the heavy traffic on that day.) Shoppp* gets three hits in OhioLINK and Shoping and Shoper* get two apiece. Our picture shows a woman from the "black bourgeoisie" inquiring of a shopkeeper: "Have you any flesh-coloured silk stockings, young man?" Wikimedia points out that the "caricature is not really racist in itself—and could even be considered to be subtly anti-racist in pointing out the relative meaning of the term 'flesh-colored'—but much of the humor which white Americans of 1829 would have perceived in it would have arisen from the racist preconceptions which they held." Today is Black Friday at TotDfL. Three typos for the price of one. ("Life in Philadelphia," from Wikimedia Commons.) Carol Reid Extracted, for AUTOCAT, from Typo of the Day for Librarians at http://librarytypos.blogspot.com/. If you have comments about the words selected, how they are selected, or the way the items are written, please contact Terry Ballard <terry.ballard-0awXA46M4gK+qLz4OLLJLQ< at >public.gmane.org>. *********************************************************************** E-mail AUTOCAT listowners: autocat-request-JX7+OpRa80SJISurH+wZVQ< at >public.gmane.org Search AUTOCAT archives: http://listserv.syr.edu/archives/autocat.html Selected AUTOCAT commands: http://www.cwu.edu/~dcc/Autocat/options.html By posting messages to AUTOCAT, the author does not cede copyright *********************************************************************** Carol Reid 2008-11-28T16:46:48 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.education.libraries.autocat/17909 Typo of the Day for Librarians Recipie, Recipies (for Recipe, Recipes) Next to the bird, the stuffing, and the cranberry sauce, pumpkin pie is probably the dish most suggestive of Thanksgiving. OhioLINK contains a single serving of Recipie and 16 more of Recipies (two with"sic"), making it a moderate to high probability typo. (Don't truncate this turkey or else you'll pick up too many hits for words like recipient. Remember, 'tis better to give than to receive.) My great-aunt used to bake pies all year round and, before passing on, passed her pumpkin pie "secret" on to my sister, who recreated it for the family this year. Her recipe was actually Mamie Eisenhower's, whose trick was to bake the empty pie shell in the oven while cooking the filling in a double boiler. At some point, you add gelatin and fold in some egg whites to firm it up, then pour it into the shell and chill. Lots of people liked Ike and I'm sure that Ike liked the First Lady's recipe for White House Pumpkin Chiffon Pie. Thanks, Mamie! Carol Reid Extracted, for AUTOCAT, from Typo of the Day for Librarians at http://librarytypos.blogspot.com/. If you have comments about the words selected, how they are selected, or the way the items are written, please contact Terry Ballard <terry.ballard-0awXA46M4gK+qLz4OLLJLQ< at >public.gmane.org>. *********************************************************************** E-mail AUTOCAT listowners: autocat-request-JX7+OpRa80SJISurH+wZVQ< at >public.gmane.org Search AUTOCAT archives: http://listserv.syr.edu/archives/autocat.html Selected AUTOCAT commands: http://www.cwu.edu/~dcc/Autocat/options.html By posting messages to AUTOCAT, the author does not cede copyright *********************************************************************** Carol Reid 2008-11-28T16:43:37 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.education.libraries.autocat/17907 Hello, autocatters, I'd be interested in any thoughts from members about issues they have with the provision and quality of bought-in or agency-supplied MARC records for e-books. The request is for a former work colleague in the UK who is researching the topic. Responses will be forwarded to my colleague as is, unless you request me to strip off your identifying information, so that you can be properly credited if he uses it in publications. I've had permission from the list owners to post this request. Thanks, and I hope the US members are all recovered from Thanksgiving! Roger Fenton 2008-11-28T12:57:36 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.education.libraries.autocat/17904 Hello, We have been asked to think seriously about shelf-ready books, and Id be grateful for any input, especially on the subject of error rates. We use LCC. Are there any other British libraries which use LCC and have books delivered shelf-ready? Any comments or advice will be graefully received. Helen Helen Buhler, Classification Coordinator, The Templeman Library, The University of Kent, Canterbury, Kent CT2 7NU. Email: H.M.Buhler-eQnPN5D1UZ61Qrn1Bg8BZw< at >public.gmane.org Fax: +44 (0)1227 827107 Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy, and tasty with ketchup. *********************************************************************** E-mail AUTOCAT listowners: autocat-request-JX7+OpRa80SJISurH+wZVQ< at >public.gmane.org Search AUTOCAT archives: http://listserv.syr.edu/archives/autocat.html Selected AUTOCAT commands: http://www.cwu.edu/~dcc/Autocat/options.html By posting messages to AUTOCAT, the author does not cede copyright *********************************************************************** Helen Buhler 2008-11-27T15:01:08 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.education.libraries.autocat/17898 Autocats, It's been a pleasure, sitting here in my breakfast nook with my laptop, baking a pumpkin cake and roasting butternut squash, and cooking wild rice, reading all of the fun messages about Thanksgiving. I'd like to say that I'm thankful for several things: -for all of the people who pay way more attention to what's going on with RDA and report on it when I don't have the time to do it myself. -for the wonderful folks at Blackwell's and OCLC who helped us make WCP at Time of Order a reality this year and saved my staff countless hours of downloading. -for the Tech Services staff at Loyola who go along with all of my crazy ideas and thank me profusely when they work! Have a wonderful holiday everybody. Now I need to go check on my squash. Laurie Phillips *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* Laurie Phillips Associate Dean for Technical Services/Associate Professor J. Edgar & Louise S. Monroe Library Loyola University New Orleans 6363 St. Charles Ave., Box 198 New Orleans, LA 70118 504-864-7833 (phone) 504-864-7842 (fax) *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* *********************************************************************** E-mail AUTOCAT listowners: autocat-request-JX7+OpRa80SJISurH+wZVQ< at >public.gmane.org Search AUTOCAT archives: http://listserv.syr.edu/archives/autocat.html Selected AUTOCAT commands: http://www.cwu.edu/~dcc/Autocat/options.html By posting messages to AUTOCAT, the author does not cede copyright *********************************************************************** Laurie Phillips 2008-11-26T22:42:13 Search the mailing list at Gmane query http://search.gmane.org/?group=$group=gmane.education.libraries.autocat