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    <title>Fwd: MY NEW PRIMARY PHYSICIAN</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.culture.transportation.humanpowered.trikes/11507</link>
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Please note: forwarded message attached

From: doug &amp;lt;dougo56x&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;yahoo.com&amp;gt;
To: undisclosed recipients: ;
Subject: Fwd: MY NEW PRIMARY PHYSICIAN
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 07:42:31 -0800 (PST)

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    <dc:date>2012-02-06T21:28:25</dc:date>
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    <title>Fw: Re: a short story for engineers</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.culture.transportation.humanpowered.trikes/11506</link>
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From: doug &amp;lt;dougo56x&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;yahoo.com&amp;gt;
To: Karen Whiting &amp;lt;buful1943&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;gmail.com&amp;gt;
Subject: Re: a short story for engineers
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 06:52:41 -0800 (PST)




 A Short Story for Engineers

A toothpaste factory had a problem: they sometimes shipped empty boxes,
without the tube inside. This was due to the way the production line was
set up, and people with experience in designing production lines will tell
you how difficult it is to have everything happen with timings so precise
that every single unit coming out of it is perfect 100% of the time.

Small variations in the environment (which can't be controlled in a
cost-effective fashion) mean you must have quality assurance checks smartly distributed
across the line so that customers all the way down to the supermarket
don't get pissed off and buy another product instead.

Understanding how important that was, the CEO of the toothpaste factory
got the top people in the company together and they decided to start a new
project, in which they would hire an external engineering company to
solve their empty boxes problem, as their engineering department was already
too stretched to take on any extra effort.

The project followed the usual process: budget and project sponsor
allocated, RFP, third-parties selected, and six months (and $8 million)
later they had a fantastic solution - on time, on budget, high quality
and everyone in the project had a great time. They solved the problem by
using
high-tech precision scales that would sound a bell and flash lights
whenever a toothpaste box would weigh less than it should. The line would stop,
and someone had to walk over and yank the defective box out of it, pressing
another button when done to re-start the line.

A while later, the CEO decides to have a look at the ROI of the project:
amazing results! No empty boxes ever shipped out of the factory after
the scales were put in place. Very few customer complaints, and they were
gaining market share. "That's some money well spent!" - he says, before
looking closely at the other statistics in the report.

It turns out, the number of defects picked up by the scales was 0 after
three weeks of production use. It should've been picking up at least a
dozen a day, so maybe there was something wrong with the report. He
filed a bug against it, and after some investigation, the engineers come back
saying the report was actually correct. The scales really weren't picking up
any defects, because all boxes that got to that point in the conveyor belt
were good.

Puzzled, the CEO travels down to the factory, and walks up to the part of
the line where the precision scales were installed.

A few feet before the scale, there was a $20 desk fan, blowing the empty
boxes out of the belt and into a bin.

"Oh, that," says one of the workers - "one of the guys put it there 'cause
he was tired of walking over... "every time the bell rang".


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    <dc:date>2012-01-22T22:22:02</dc:date>
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    <title>Ride Ataxia</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.culture.transportation.humanpowered.trikes/11504</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hello ,

Can you add this upcoming charity ride to your event calendar?
Detailed information about the event is posted below and our logo
graphic is attached..

Event: Ride Ataxia
Date: March 24, 2012
Location: Denton, TX. UNT Apogee Stadium
Website: http://rideataxia.org/dallas
Brief description: 6, 25, and 50 mile route options. Full SAG support
with post ride food provided by Outback Steakhouse. Fundraising
benefits the Friedreich's Ataxia Research Alliance (FARA). Fundraising
not required but strongly encouraged.

Details:
Come ride with Outback Steakhouse and FARA- enjoy the grounds of UNT
Apogee Stadium, amazing North Texas views of Ray Roberts Lake, plus
delicious food. Appealing to all levels of cycling abilities, Ride
Ataxia will include 6, 25 and 50 mile route options with a meal
provided by Outback Steakhouse after the ride. Founded by Kyle Bryant,
a young man with Friedreich’s ataxia (FA), the Ride Ataxia event has
funded over $1 million is FA research. Ride Ataxia is a fundraising
program of FARA with ride locations in Dallas, Northern California,
Philadelphia and Orlando. FARA is a nonprofit organization dedicated
to research and a cure for FA- a debilitating, life-shortening,
degenerative neuro-muscular disorder. For more information or to
register, visit: www.rideataxia.org/dallas or email info&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;curefa.org.Thank you,   David/Spinner 
 Follow This Link to visit my personal web page and help me in my efforts to support Friedreich's Ataxia Research Alliance (FARA)
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    <dc:creator>David Jr.</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-01-21T21:12:35</dc:date>
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    <title>list activity</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.culture.transportation.humanpowered.trikes/11497</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;I'm just glad to see it again!  We could talk about trailers vs  panniers 
for another round of comments!!!
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    <dc:creator>SerxnerLa&lt; at &gt;aol.com</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-01-20T18:21:37</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.culture.transportation.humanpowered.trikes/11481">
    <title>chain help for GS GTE</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.culture.transportation.humanpowered.trikes/11481</link>
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I wanted to buy more chain to lengthen my chain on the GTE but is says SRAM pc-40 and seems that is not made anymore. I have been told it may be a single speed chain and could use any single speed chain to lengthen it and I have been told it is probably an 8 sp chain. Sooooooooo. I still don't know what chain to buy to add to it so some longer legs can pedal the trike. It has a Rohloff hub and Schlumph Mountain drive if that helps any. Is there a chain I can just add to it or do I have to buy all new chain. ???

Fran
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    <dc:creator>mgta4&lt; at &gt;aol.com</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-01-16T00:17:53</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.culture.transportation.humanpowered.trikes/11479">
    <title>Fw: Re: mov'n along</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.culture.transportation.humanpowered.trikes/11479</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;

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From: Brian Wilson &amp;lt;brian&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;wildsong.biz&amp;gt;
To: "blackotter&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;juno.com" &amp;lt;blackotter&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;juno.com&amp;gt;
Subject: Re: mov'n along
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 15:45:32 -0800

It looks like you sent this message to mailman&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;hupi.org??
&amp;amp;#65533;You need to send to a list that you are subscribed to, for example trikes&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;hupi.org



On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 2:57 PM, blackotter&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;juno.com &amp;lt;blackotter&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;juno.com&amp;gt; wrote:
okay it's winter and i'm ride'n inside.&amp;amp;#65533; one thing i've noticed since putting the trike on the rollers for an hour workout is that my lower track gets a good workout.&amp;amp;#65533; so much so that i must have one of the cleanest lower tracks this side of the border.&amp;amp;#65533; don't need no over the counter medications, the trike does it&amp;amp;#65533; for me.&amp;amp;#65533; now you know why five&amp;amp;#65533; out of six doctors perscribe a day on the trike.&amp;amp;#65533;ok april cannot come soon enough.&amp;amp;#65533;

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    <dc:date>2012-01-14T21:31:04</dc:date>
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    <title>Fwd:  Greenspeed GTE tires</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.culture.transportation.humanpowered.trikes/11467</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Sending to 'Trikes' this time - must read messages before pressing 
'send' !

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    <dc:creator>John Turvey</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-01-12T20:24:16</dc:date>
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    <title>(no subject)</title>
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    <description>&lt;pre&gt; 
After many years of service my Bionx system has given up and is not  
repairable. I would like to replace it with a better model but am having  trouble. 
Bionx had told my dealer the model I want would not be available until  
December 2011 That date has since been changed to February. I am 82 and need  
help on hills. Since Bionx seems to be having troubles does anyone have any  
suggestions as to an alternate solution to my problem? 
 
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    <dc:date>2012-01-12T17:50:57</dc:date>
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    <title>WEIGHT RANGE OF GTE</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.culture.transportation.humanpowered.trikes/11460</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Sorry about all the question. I should know some of this but don't. The person wanting to ride my GTE is about 250 lbs. It was built for me at 176 lbs. Do you think it would be ok for him with 2 sets of panniers pulling a trailer? We are planning a long tour and trikes would be so much better then our bikes. He doesn't have one and I have plenty and thinking about riding them. Fran
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    <dc:date>2012-01-11T22:01:48</dc:date>
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    <title>Hope disc brakes on GTE</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.culture.transportation.humanpowered.trikes/11459</link>
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This trike has been sitting for years and the brake levers close all the way. Over the years I have let out I think 1drop of fluid a couple times as the brakes froze up in the heat of the building I store it in. I would think maybe it needs more fluid but does anyone know what kind and where to get it. I know the Rohloff needs changing and I have that but what about the Schlumph Mountain Drive. It only has about 25 miles on it but has about 11 years of just sitting waiting to be ridden. Any help -suggestions is greatly appreciated. Fran . 
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    <dc:date>2012-01-11T21:50:10</dc:date>
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    <title>Greenspeed GTE tires</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.culture.transportation.humanpowered.trikes/11458</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;I am going to change tires on my GTE as they are dry rotting. Now the problem for me is what size. I want to go with Marathon Plus because I don't want to change any flats if possible. The tires don't have any #'s on them except 20x175. When I look for tires they have other #'s for the tire. The tires on the Ute also have a HS348 even though it says 20x175 and I don't under stand what all these mean and don't want to buy the wrong size tire. Any suggestions?? Thanks Fran
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    <dc:creator>mgta4&lt; at &gt;aol.com</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-01-11T21:25:37</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.culture.transportation.humanpowered.trikes/11445">
    <title>Schwalbe trike tires</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.culture.transportation.humanpowered.trikes/11445</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;I just saw that Schwalbe will be introducing a 20" trike (and presumably quad) specific tire, in 2012.  This should bring an improvement in cornering and tire life.

 
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    <dc:creator>Colin Bryant</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2011-10-10T19:33:30</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.culture.transportation.humanpowered.trikes/11442">
    <title>Brake Pad Problem</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.culture.transportation.humanpowered.trikes/11442</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi Siegfried,

I too have a Logo Trike.

I know Martin of LogoTrikes personally so will try to contact him and 
see what I can find out. I'll be needing pads too in any case for our 
two Logos. If his email doesn't work I'll phone him.
I'll post what I find out.
You can contact me by email.
john dot lewis at internode dot on dot net. (replace the dots and at 
with "." and "&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;"first.)

I know Martin has been away working in the North to help make ends meet 
recently so that is probably causing communications difficulties.

John

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    <dc:creator>John Lewis</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2011-09-28T09:21:03</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.culture.transportation.humanpowered.trikes/11433">
    <title>gt3 weight limit</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.culture.transportation.humanpowered.trikes/11433</link>
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Does anyone know the weight limit on the original GT3? I need to sell one and I think the 250 lb fellow is too heavy. Thanks Fran



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    <dc:creator>mgta4&lt; at &gt;aol.com</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2011-08-20T15:32:28</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.culture.transportation.humanpowered.trikes/11427">
    <title>Direct steering</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.culture.transportation.humanpowered.trikes/11427</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Thanks for all the emails.  What I really wanted to know is if people like direct steering or not.  What is good and what is bad.  I am not building one just considering a Cat or TerraTrike that has direct steering.  I would think it would feel real strange to be able to turn just one wheel.  Does it take more concentration than normal steering?  How about if you take your hand off of one.  Does it turn, shutter or just continue straight.

Thanks,

Ed Logan
GRR, Kettwiesel and Vision Metro
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    <dc:creator>Ed Logan</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2011-07-07T18:34:29</dc:date>
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    <title>Direct Steering</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.culture.transportation.humanpowered.trikes/11424</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Does anyone out there have any experience with Direct Steering on a tadpole trike?  I know TerraTrike and Cat both have one but I have never seen one or talked to an owner.  

Any opinions welcome.

Thanks,

Ed Logan
GRR, Kettwiesel and Vision Metro
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    <dc:creator>Ed Logan</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2011-07-06T19:57:12</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.culture.transportation.humanpowered.trikes/11417">
    <title>High Gearing With Small Chainring</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.culture.transportation.humanpowered.trikes/11417</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;This looks like it could solve the problem of bashing into things with 
the chainrings on a SWB bike or tadpole trike: 
&amp;lt;http://www.seed-your-ideas.com/Triebwerk/en/index.html&amp;gt;.

I assume it is *not* inexpensive (like all Schlumpf products), however. : (
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    <dc:creator>Tom Sherman</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2011-07-06T04:41:46</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.culture.transportation.humanpowered.trikes/11409">
    <title>Electric assist</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.culture.transportation.humanpowered.trikes/11409</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;I have just purchased a 20" Lithium powered E Bike motor kit that I am going to install on my Kettwiesel.  It should arrive early next week.  I was wondering if any of you have done this and might have some advice on things like, where to put the battery, the controller etc.  I have ordered the extra long cable and the torque lock and have seen a video on how to install the torque lock that is on ElectricBikeBuilding.com.

Anyway, any advice would be appreciated. 

Thanks,

Ed Logan
GRR, Vision Metro and my Kettwiesel
 
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    <dc:date>2011-01-05T20:25:31</dc:date>
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    <title>Greenspeed tandem vanishes under steam train</title>
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This may not be quite what you are expecting from the subject line.  :D

Most of you are probably already familiar with the antics we do up here
in Ottawa enabled by the creations of a certain list member from Ferntree
Gully...

Last Saturday HPVOoO (Human Powered Vehicle Operators of Ottawa)
participated yet again in the annual Ottawa Firefighters Help Santa Toy
Parade.  This time we had the ambitious idea of turning my Greenspeed
GTVs6 tandem with the Hammond organ trailer into a steam train in lights
for a night parade.

This was the result:
http://tricolour.net/photos/2010/11/20/train_parade.html

And here is some of the backgrounder on how we got there:
http://hpv.tricolour.net/train.html

http://artengine.ca/blog/?p=1733
http://drumbent.blogspot.com/2010/11/more-hpvooo-parade-fun.html

Some comments from the general public that got back to me indirectly
include "That's the first time downtown Ottawa has heard a real live
train horn in more than 40 years." (In a poor decision on the part of
regional planners, our "central" train station was moved about 5km away
from Parliament Hill sometime in the early 1960s.)

We've got another parade coming up this coming Saturday in a suburb
about 15km away.


slainte mhath, RGB

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    <dc:date>2010-11-25T14:50:10</dc:date>
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    <title>steering design question</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.culture.transportation.humanpowered.trikes/11394</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;My wife was recently told she should use a wheelchair due to her ME. As keen cyclists we'd like to continue, and so I've been looking at designing an attachment for her chair which would convey it to something like a Vietnamese cyclo rickshaw 

http://www.rfleming.net/diarypics/Huecyclo2.jpg

Only thing I'm not certain about is the location of the steering pivot; should it be between the wheels like a kids soapbox kart, or behind the wheels like another conversion I've seen?

Any advice would be gratefully received.

Alex

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    <dc:creator>Alex Richards</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2010-10-28T18:21:05</dc:date>
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    <title>Greenspeed GT3</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.culture.transportation.humanpowered.trikes/11379</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;I would like lower gears on my GT3 and was wondering if the largest cog in the rear could be replaced by a larger one without any problems??? Thanks Fran


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    <dc:date>2010-10-15T19:11:11</dc:date>
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