gmane.comp.windows.shells.litestep

LS on XP embedded

Raffaele Turra — 2008-09-18T15:35:57

hallo i would like to try to use LS as a shell in a XP embedded runtime, the best way to achieve this is to "componentize" it: hence i should know which binaries, core operating system files, or registry entries that are required by an LS installation in order to work properly. Could you point me to any resource? Has anyone of you heard of any componentized-LS before? Thanks in advance, Raffaele Turra --------------------------------------------------------------------- Can't Unsubscribe? Check http://desktopian.org/listunsub.html LS List Homepage: http://wuzzle.org/list/litestep.php Get the LS FAQ: http://lsfaq.shellfront.org

Littele Question about litestep.com

LiteSTEP.de Mailing List account — 2008-08-15T20:56:20

Hi < at > all here is a little question at josh or at the ls dev Team What will happen with litestep.com? There is not really much this time. But I'm glad to see changes there. By the way: What's about to put links to all available LiteSTEP sites on the net. There are not so much that time. Best Regards Joachim

LiteStep on Vista

Bjoern Brembs — 2008-08-07T10:49:39

Fellow 'Steppers, I have recently come over a new laptop with Vista pre-installed. I will definitely not work without LiteStep, so I face the task of either installing XP (forfeiting, e.g. Office 2007) or dealing with hiccups in using LS. How usable is the very latest, unstable version under Vista? Has there been any significant progress since the last State of the Step in April, where it said: "Still, LiteStep 0.24.8 should be usable on Vista. Maybe not the Betas, but the final release should." How far are you guys? Thanks for keeping LiteStep up to date! Bjoern

LiteStep 0.24.8 Release Candidate 1

chris — 2008-05-31T22:21:55

Hello fellow LiteSteppers! Thanks to the efforts of Acidfire, ilmcuts, jugg, Maduin and Tobbe the LiteStep Development Team is happy to announce LiteStep 0.24.8 Release Candidate 1. More information and downloads are available at: http://www.lsdev.org/ We expect this release to be a drop-in replacement for 0.24.7. If you have *any* issues (minor or large) please be sure to inform us about them rather than working around the issue and not telling us. We'd much appreciate it. You can contact us at our team address: devteam [at] lsdev.org or right here on the mailing list. Happy LiteStepping, - The LiteStep Development Team --------------------------------------------------------------------- Can't Unsubscribe? Check http://desktopian.org/listunsub.html LS List Homepage: http://wuzzle.org/list/litestep.php Get the LS FAQ: http://lsfaq.shellfront.org

non-english litestep websites?

chris — 2008-05-11T17:20:35

What active non-english LiteStep community portals are out there? I'm currently remembering www.litestep.de and www.litestep-france.net Any others? --------------------------------------------------------------------- Can't Unsubscribe? Check http://desktopian.org/listunsub.html LS List Homepage: http://wuzzle.org/list/litestep.php Get the LS FAQ: http://lsfaq.shellfront.org

Windows OS Poll

chris — 2008-04-20T23:52:47

Please take a moment to participate in this poll on litestep.net: http://www.litestep.net/index.php?section=4&action=view&catId=1&id=6555 If you do not want to vote at litestep.net, feel free to respond here. But please don't do both. Thanks. What is the oldest Windows OS that you use LiteStep on? Windows 95 Windows 98 SE Windows ME Windows NT 4.0 Windows 2000 Windows XP Home Edition Windows XP Professional Windows Server 2003 Windows Vista Home Windows Vista (Other) --------------------------------------------------------------------- Can't Unsubscribe? Check http://desktopian.org/listunsub.html LS List Homepage: http://wuzzle.org/list/litestep.php Get the LS FAQ: http://lsfaq.shellfront.org

State of the Step April 2008

chris — 2008-04-14T05:53:16

Dear LiteSteppers, When you least expect it... an update from your friendly LiteStep Development Team: Welcome to the April 2008 edition of the State of the Step! On the agenda this time: 1. The Development Team 2. LiteStep vs. Litestep 3. LiteStep 0.24.8 4. Windows Vista 5. In Closing... Go! 1. The Development Team - A(nother) new lineup ------------------------- Development at a snail's pace... and that's being nice. jugg and I (ilmcuts) have been working on the core on and off, but that's hardly enough to fulfill the expectations. Thus we went out recruiting people. Of the several people we contacted, we are proud to announce that three have accepted the offer. Welcome, Acidfire, Tobbe, and Xjill! This means the devteam now is: Acidfire ilmcuts jugg Tobbe Xjill Even with the new lineup it will be very hard to follow through with everything we need and would like to do. We're trying our best but very much want and need any help we can get. We hope that others we have talked to will decide to work with us as well. If you are interested in being part of the team, please let us know! We have also revived our contact mail address. You can now reach the LS Development Team by writing to: devteam at lsdev.org. 2. LiteStep vs. Litestep -------------------------- The ongoing, never ending debate. Well, we hope to "officially" end it once and for all. We will be deciding on the LSDev Team official capitalization of LiteSTEP before the next release. So, if you have any heart felt comments to add to the discussion now is the time do so. 3. LiteStep 0.24.8 -------------------- While we may have been quiet in terms of even experimental releases, our CVS history reveals "+8946/-3915 lines changed" since June 01, 2007. Note that this number includes documentation changes or copyright date changes too. The change history since 0.24.7 is "+14949/-7705 lines changed". Unfortunately, the release of 0.24.8 has been held up. However, unless you are on Vista, the experimental builds contain much of what is going to be in the final. What is the problem, then? While we are no longer striving for full Vista compatibility in this particular release (more on that below), there are a couple of bugs that are just not acceptable in a release. Missing volume controls may just barely be acceptable, but broken startup applications or LiteStep crashing on startup is not. Since the last experimental build, which contained the new math parser, for example, we have continued to work on AppBar support, made sure that Explorer will run if you boot into safe mode(*), have fixed numerous small bugs, and some more, besides all the Vista changes. We're looking at getting out a Beta release which will have all that but will not yet have fixes for all known Vista issues. If we can't find the time to do a proper Beta we will at least be posting another experimental build. If you can't wait for that you're free to compile your own "nightly" builds! Feel free to ask us for support if you need help doing that. (*) We are starting Explorer in safe mode because you might be trying to fix a broken LiteStep by going there. Lots of beginners use it when they get scared after installing LiteStep and want to remove it again. 4. Windows Vista ------------------ In case there is any confusion, we're trying to make the usual 32-Bit LiteStep work on both 32-Bit and 64-Bit Vista. While a 64-Bit LiteStep has been compiled, it shares almost all problems of the 32-Bit version and offers little in return. On top of that, it requires rebuilt modules. So our focus for the foreseeable future will be on 32-Bit LiteStep. While LiteStep does somewhat work on Windows Vista as is, there are several problems. For example, the welcome screen delay is back. Some startup apps are being run twice, some not at all. Tray tooltips are broken and some tray icons like the volume icon don't appear at all. LiteStep no longer detects if Explorer has already run startup apps and vice versa. Some system sounds aren't being played. The wallpaper isn't always shown, all you get is a black desktop. Etc. etc. Unfortunately, for each issue that we fix another one or two are uncovered. Trying to fix them all would hold up the release indefinitely. But we're looking at fixing the worst of the issues. In fact, except for the missing icons, we believe we can fix all of the above. Given the history, however, it wouldn't surprise us if one or two fixes didn't work out in the end. Still, LiteStep 0.24.8 should be usable on Vista. Maybe not the Betas, but the final release should. 4. In Closing... ------------------ This marks the end of this State of the Step. If you have any questions or suggestions please feel free to respond via the LSML, IRC, or our contact mail. We will be happy to talk to you. Happy LiteStepping, - The LiteStep Development Team --- http://www.lsdev.org/ --- #lsdev on irc.freenode.org --- devteam at lsdev.org ps. I (jugg) am relaying this update from ilmcuts. pps. I hope this spring is finding everyone well. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Can't Unsubscribe? Check http://desktopian.org/listunsub.html LS List Homepage: http://wuzzle.org/list/litestep.php Get the LS FAQ: http://lsfaq.shellfront.org

Litestep.Info

Darrin Roenfanz — 2008-03-12T03:05:07

As some of you might remember, there was a large amount of talk semi-recently regarding bringing litestep.info back online. A lot of talk, not much action, both on here and on West's board (which seems to be down :-( ) The site's intent was to be an "informative", user-friendly place for new and prospective users. Anyhow, I thought it prudent to ask YOU, the litestep users, what sort of ideas could be seen as "informative" and thus, something to be considered as content for the site. As I recall, things "we" DON'T want: * Forums -- We have enough of these. I don't really think having forums is necessary. * Wiki -- Dont think another one of this is needed either, as we already have one: http://wiki.litestep.com.ar/Index (Note: Although, I like the idea of a wiki.litestep.info mirror/redirect thing) * Themes -- We have SEVERAL sites that cover this as well. Also, doesn't fit into the scope of the site either. Things we "do" like/want: * Module Documentation: This is a *big* undertaking however, and not something that would be available at launch. * Articles/Tutorials: o Theme Reviews: This was discussed on the forums, I think it would be a nice idea to do a weekly review of a theme, with a rating system, and several categories to rate. o Theme Tutorials: Basic tutorials on how to do BASIC themeing, nothing advanced o General Tutorials * FAQ: Basic questions only. A more advanced FAQ can be found at ls-universe. Suggestions for questions to ask/answer would be appreciated. Examples: o What is LiteStep? (Remember, new people, so they wont really know) o How does it work? (Simple answer) o ???? * RSS Feeds to other sites? I dont see why not. * An image gallery? Not exactly "info" but this *would* help show litestep off. I've been working rather fervently on this lately, and while I dont have alot of content, I do have a design in the works: http://lsinfo.the-golem.com/ and http://the-golem.com/projects/lsinfo_v3/index.html show the project in various stages. I know the design isnt anything overly special, or innovative, but I am kinda proud of it. Your feedback is much appreciated. // the-golem --------------------------------------------------------------------- Can't Unsubscribe? Check http://desktopian.org/listunsub.html LS List Homepage: http://wuzzle.org/list/litestep.php Get the LS FAQ: http://lsfaq.shellfront.org

Long time no type!

Hale, Paul — 2008-02-21T20:38:55

Greeting all! I know it has been a while since I have been on here, but I found something that I thought I would share with the group. http://images.wikia.com/uncyclopedia/images/5/5b/Windowsvistamarketing.j pg Paul Hale Sales Analyst Berry Network, Inc 3170 Kettering Blvd Dayton, OH 45432 Phone 937.296.2301 Fax 937.296.4742 www.berrynetwork.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential, proprietary and or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this email in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from all computers. This electronic mail message was sent from L. M. Berry & Company or Berry Network, Inc. Our primary business address is 3170 Kettering Blvd., Dayton, OH 45439. This message may constitute a commercial solicitation or advertisement as defined by the CAN-SPAM act of 2003. If you do not wish to receive future commercial electronic mail solicitations or advertisements from L. M. Berry & Company or Berry Network, Inc., please send a request to donot.contact-LPuBHCozhVRBDgjK7y7TUQ< at >public.gmane.org ==============================================================================

lsdev download link

chris — 2008-02-07T03:14:25

Was Re: "OTS3" fractal.design wrote: > Can jugg or ilmcuts or whoever at lsdev tell me the url for the > "latest stable build". One that wont change and still provide the > latest public core package. ? you need a direct download for a tool, or a url to refer people to? www.lsdev.org will always have the downloads available. If you need a link to the last release, one is currently at: http://www.lsdev.org/lib/exe/fetch.php?media=lsdev:downloads:ls-0.24.7.zip If you're desiring a generic url, please let me know for what purpose so we can see if a solution can be had. chris --------------------------------------------------------------------- Can't Unsubscribe? Check http://desktopian.org/listunsub.html LS List Homepage: http://wuzzle.org/list/litestep.php Get the LS FAQ: http://lsfaq.shellfront.org

"OTS3"

Jochen Ritzel — 2008-01-30T18:21:51

Greetings, yet again i come in peace and with an anouncement regarding the litestep distribution that could be ots3: Since Andymon released his great ThemeManager ( http://www.ls-universe.info/news.php?item.455.1 ) with support for ots3, i have all the tools required for a "normal" Litestep distribution. So i made one :] Features: - a neat installer - full ots2 compability (if not its a bug) - no additional requirements ( "no python" ) - all that ots3 stuff ( http://www.ls-themes.org/index.php?cat=article&show=ots3 ) Why use it? While nothing speaks *against* using it, there are only meta benefits from using it either. What i mean by that is that nothing will change if you just install and use it. How could it, since your theme will stay the same and there are no ots3 themes so far. There is only one reason to use it: *If* you improve it, everyone, including you, can benefit from it. OTS2 wont change anymore, but OTS3 can and will benefit from your help! So, if i you want to try it, please do and please leave comments at ls-themes.org or over at ls-universe.info! One last word of warning thou: Since LOSI and this distro both use Andymons ThemeManager, either will stop working if you install the other on the same user account ( different is fine). You will have to change the LitestepDir/ThemeDir/ProfileDir in the TM if you want to switch back to the older installation. Installer is here: http://www.ls-themes.org/ots3/Litestep-ots3.exe Docs are here: http://www.ls-themes.org/index.php?cat=article&show=ots3 So Long, and thanks for all the .. attention :) thc4k --------------------------------------------------------------------- Can't Unsubscribe? Check http://desktopian.org/listunsub.html LS List Homepage: http://wuzzle.org/list/litestep.php Get the LS FAQ: http://lsfaq.shellfront.org

LOSI nightly?

fractal.design — 2008-01-07T05:46:37

Hey Tobbe, Can you please build the installer more often? Release a version every news bite ;) I wanna see what your up to! :D

LOSI 0.0.9

Tobbe Lundberg — 2007-12-30T00:17:22

That's right folks, a new version of LOSI is released! Read all about it and download your copy at http://tlundberg.com/LOSI/ Happy new year! //Tobbe --------------------------------------------------------------------- Can't Unsubscribe? Check http://desktopian.org/listunsub.html LS List Homepage: http://wuzzle.org/list/litestep.php Get the LS FAQ: http://lsfaq.shellfront.org

French translation of LOSI

Tobbe Lundberg — 2007-12-25T00:55:30

I'm getting ready to release a new version of LOSI. In fact, the only things missing right now are the German and French language strings. I've got help with the German part, but need someone to translate the English language strings to French. I have some of the strings already translated from an earlier version of the installer, but a few strings has been added and/or modified since then. Here are the language strings: http://tlundberg.com/LOSI/LanguageStrings.nsh All the ... in the French part of that file needs to be replaced with something meaningful. Thanks in advance and Happy Holidays! //Tobbe --------------------------------------------------------------------- Can't Unsubscribe? Check http://desktopian.org/listunsub.html LS List Homepage: http://wuzzle.org/list/litestep.php Get the LS FAQ: http://lsfaq.shellfront.org

LSX Command > Add text to file

Ace McKool — 2007-12-10T19:22:39

Hi Everyone, I'm trying to track my time at work. I was hoping to use LSXCommand (plus any needed modules) to do something like: ?tracker "Some Client > I did this for them" And it would simply write the string to a file and add a timestamp if possible. Anybody have any recommendations on how to get this started? Thanks!

Vista DWM

Xjill — 2007-11-22T23:52:34

Hullo, I've just installed Vista in a side-by-side setup with XP, and even though I haven't gotten around to testing LS on it yet (need to build from the latest source), I've been thinking a little about the way Vista handles it's windows. The way the Desktop Windows Manager (DWM) in Vista does it is to buffer all windows offscreen, and then put them together as is needed (for more info see this: http://blogs.msdn.com/greg_schechter/archive/2006/03/05/544314.aspx ). This is what gives Vista the possibility to do things like real time updating previews for tasks and such. Now, as the customizer/modder I am, I start thinking that this is something LS should be able to make use of. Not through the core of course, but through modules. Think taskbars and VWM: At the moment explorer does something LS does not, i.e. show previews of tasks when you hover them in the taskbar. For VWM this should open up a bunch of stuff (think something ala Beryl for Linux, even though that's a bit over the top of what one would want/need). I'm not saying we should make a Beryl replica for windows (that could be done with a standalone app), what I'm saying is that there are a couple of new possibilities that open up for cool things to integrate into the shell. I'm not really sure if there's much to get out of this, but I thought I'd vent my thoughts a bit on the list since I know there's a bunch of really creative people here (and also since it's been rather quiet lately). At least this way if nobody comes up with anything I'll feel better about not coming up with anything too exciting either :3 Dunno, but I keep thinking that it should be able to something sci-fi-ish with this :P --------------------------------------------------------------------- Can't Unsubscribe? Check http://desktopian.org/listunsub.html LS List Homepage: http://wuzzle.org/list/litestep.php Get the LS FAQ: http://lsfaq.shellfront.org

lsdev.org revamped

ilmcuts — 2007-10-11T23:22:36

Hey all, You may or may not have seen it already - we have redesigned, rewritten and updated the Litestep Development site: lsdev.org. Many thanks and all credit go out to jugg, who has put tremendous effort into this one. The forums have been replaced by the LSDev Mailing List and its gmane.org interface, but apart from that all content from the old site has been migrated - and new content has been added. For example, we now have a 'Community' section with an overview over our community resources: Mailing Lists, IRC Channels, Websites. Then there's the 'Development' section, including the infrastructure the devteam uses: our bugtracker which is finally put to good use, the cvs repository, and more. Over time we'll also try to amass development guides and hints for both core and module development. Some of it is already in place, some of it is very much a work in progress. If you want to take part in that work in progress, join the LSDev Mailing list or come visit us in #litestep and #lsdev on irc.freenode.net. Happy Litestepping, The Litestep Development Team http://www.lsdev.org/ PS. As another example for work in progress, we're working on merging the wiki and bugtracker authentication. Once that is done other developers can use it. Until then you'll need to contact us to sign up, unfortunately. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Can't Unsubscribe? Check http://desktopian.org/listunsub.html LS List Homepage: http://wuzzle.org/list/litestep.php Get the LS FAQ: http://lsfaq.shellfront.org

Paging Brian's Brain -- HTML 'theme config' with form elements

Darrin C Roenfanz — 2007-08-21T05:02:51

This is mostly for Brian, because I think he has knowledge in this field. As I understand it, you helped create an HT-based utility of somesort For a little bit of background, I'm working on a series of themes. Basically, you have a SimpleTheme, which includes tutorials on how to implement addons/widgets. Then you have the IntermediateTheme, which has all those addons/widgets included already. I was thinking that the best way to do this would be with HTML-type files. Anyway, I was wondering if'n it's possible to create an HTML doc that makes use of forms elements (checkboxes and such) that would directly interact with an associated rc file. If what I'm thinking is right, it would be an easy(?) way to create a 'graphical' themeconfig since no modules really allow use of GUI elements such as checkboxes or radial buttons. Let me know if I'm on the right track, totally offbase, or what... the-golem --------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Can't Unsubscribe? Check http://desktopian.org/listunsub.html LS List Homepage: http://wuzzle.org/list/litestep.php Get the LS FAQ: http://lsfaq.shellfront.org

LiteStep Progress website

Alexander Vermaat — 2007-08-17T14:24:42

"Lately there has been a rumor saying Litestep is dead / dying. People claim no progress is being made and that soon no one will use it anymore. Not only do these rumors annoy the heck out of Litestep developers and users, it also discourages new people from starting to use Litestep. The LiteStep Progress website (http://lsp.litestep.info/) exists to prove them wrong. By posting all bits of progress being made in Litestep development we will show the skeptics that Litestep is very much alive. We will show potential new users that they don't have to be afraid Litestep won't be supported anymore in the future. We will show developers all their work will not be in vain. This site is also here to motivate developers to continue their work. Seeing lots of other people all work on Litestep related projects is a great way to get yourself motivated to keep coding." Tobbe and I created this website some time ago. There are already a lot of progress reports on it and now it's time to really promote it. Everyone interested should check it out and all developers should start posting on it. "Any progress made on coding anything for Litestep may be posted here. Advances to the core, a module, an installer, a helper utility, a website and any other code should be put on this site. Also very advanced scripts and widgets like fractal.design's DeskIcons can be posted here." -Acidfire (Quotes are from the About page at http://lsp.litestep.info/index.php?action=view;page=about) --------------------------------------------------------------------- Can't Unsubscribe? Check http://desktopian.org/listunsub.html LS List Homepage: http://wuzzle.org/list/litestep.php Get the LS FAQ: http://lsfaq.shellfront.org

About Eclipse

Arve Barsnes — 2007-08-15T12:59:18

What exactly is the problem with LS and Eclipse? With all the discussion about why LS is lacking in popularity, I really want to try it out again, even though it's just a work computer --------------------------------------------------------------------- Can't Unsubscribe? Check http://desktopian.org/listunsub.html LS List Homepage: http://wuzzle.org/list/litestep.php Get the LS FAQ: http://lsfaq.shellfront.org

LiteStep and Linux?

Roy Gathercoal — 2007-08-15T07:11:51

I know that there are several open source programs that are developed and then compiled specifically for the various platforms. Is this possible for LiteStep? If so, even those wistful Linux users might have reason to check out a "LiteStep for Linux." It would seem that an open source shell would have an advantage in this sort of portability: Use LiteStep/Linux at home and LiteStep/Windows or LiteStep/Mac at work. Same theme, but with different ways of addressing the compatibility problem. Especially in that its purpose is as "a visual output" rather than input to another program or incorporation into a common database, etc. Some three or so programmers might be able to work up a "LinuxStep" (LinuxLite?) utility which can handle any OTS2 theme. Run it though "Windows prep" and it compiles into the LiteStep we currently have and enjoy. Run it through "Mac/OS prep", however, and the result will be a compiled version for Macs. "Linux prep" could do the same for that platform. No doubt a lot of work, but is it worth it? Is it even do-able, program-wise? It would seem that the Linux compile would be the easiest (assuming any of these are possible) in that the OS is open source. ?? --------------------------------------------------------------------- Can't Unsubscribe? Check http://desktopian.org/listunsub.html LS List Homepage: http://wuzzle.org/list/litestep.php Get the LS FAQ: http://lsfaq.shellfront.org