http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.devel hourly 1 1901-01-01T00:00+00:00 http://gmane.org/img/gmane-25t.png http://gmane.org http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.devel/29835 <pre>Hi all, I just read through all the Plone 5 threads and I'm excited about Plone 5! I think I'm in full agreement with esteele's plan, and as fully confused as regebro about deco. So I wanted to start a separate thread from a higher level to iron out my confusion. But first let me say this. As someone who loves "shiny", I don't care at all about deco. That is to say, what I most want now from Plone is a lighter, leaner, better maintained stack (very excited about deps &lt; 200). With services like Heroku taking off, we're going to need it. I want Plone to run on Python 3, and I'm prepared to put in the time to make it happen (e.g. possibly by working on PIL support for Python 3). And what makes a great feature in Plone? Something that is as easy for someone like me to install and start playing with as an add-on. I was a very early adopter of xdv-technology, and couldn't get enough of it. Now we have Diazo going in core. \o/ I have not seen anything called "deco, tiles, or blocks" that has gotten me nearly as excited. In other words, the proof is in the technology itself not declarations like "Foo will be the default widget generator in release Bar!" And of course, that's not to say that a modern UI is not needed, it is. But let's get the basics working first (content types) and use things like bootstrap everywhere we can along the way… perhaps even at the Zope 2 level… why not? Just like with AI team tasks, the less we are directly responsible for, the better IMHO. Alex </pre> Alex Clark 2012-05-26T16:59:41 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.devel/29791 <pre>4.1 http://package.enfoldsystems.com/windows/setup-plone41-4.1.5-5338-win32.exe 4.2 http://package.enfoldsystems.com/windows/setup-plone42-4.2.0-5343-win32.exe </pre> Alan Runyan 2012-05-23T19:37:50 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.devel/29783 <pre>Someone needs to kick this off... Plone 5! The whole point of this is focusing/refocusing our development efforts, so I'm going to keep this short and expect the rest of you to run with the discussion. Plone 5 will drop in March, 2013 and will be about two things: 1) Dexterity becomes Plone's default content type story. We figure out a migration path for Archetypes content. 2) Diazo becomes Plone's default theming story. CMSUI/plone.app.toolbar gets awesome and wraps the whole thing up nicely. Those two features alone are more than enough to make for an awesome major release, with a reasonable upgrade from Plone 4. Everything we accomplish past that is icing on the cake. Go. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/_______________________________________________ Plone-developers mailing list Plone-developers-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers </pre> Eric Steele 2012-05-23T14:54:32 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.devel/29773 <pre>Hi, I'm using for the first time plone.app.discussion. Trying to know why I can't enable it on Folder I'm reading this: # Always return False if object is a folder Why this choice ? My use case is really simple: I'm using folder to store images (photos) and a galleria_view on it. I want people to be able to comment the album. Regards / Cordialement, JeanMichel FRANCOIS Find me on Twitter &lt;http://twitter.com/toutpt&gt; / Retrouvez moi sur Twitter&lt;http://twitter.com/toutpt_nantes&gt; ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/_______________________________________________ Plone-developers mailing list Plone-developers-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers </pre> Jean-Michel FRANCOIS 2012-05-23T09:06:21 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.devel/29772 <pre>Hi all (especially iElectric!) Some of us (myself, Spanky, aclark) have noticed a fair number of questions in IRC of late about customizing the configuration of TinyMCE. The most common question seems to be "how can I disable [some aspect of] HTML filtering?" Under Kupu, this was easy to do via the HTML Filtering control panel, which still exists, but IIRC, TinyMCE also has some built-in filtering settings that are not currently exposed via Plone. I don't have a specific proposal here, but I wanted to open up the topic for some discussion: what can we do (if anything?) to better surface TinyMCE filtering/other configuration options into Plone, and integrate these settings with the existing HTML Filtering control panel? :jon --- Jon Stahl http://jstahl.org 206.226.0818 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ </pre> Jon Stahl 2012-05-22T22:32:14 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.devel/29768 <pre>plone.uuid at the moment has inconsistent use of UUID.__str__() vs. UUID.hex -- MutableAttributeUUID adapter continues to use the former while the IObjectCreatedEvent handler uses the latter (backward-incompatible change as of 1.0.2 and Plone 4.1.4). This leaves me with questions: 1. Why the change prior to 1.0.2, if backward-incompatible for key comparison? To save 4 bytes storage per reference? https://github.com/plone/plone.uuid/commit/d0141d6626f781dbba9f87f6cc9aaf4368869d73 2. If the change is made, we cannot count on key comparisons to work consistently? We need to pick one format? &gt;&gt;&gt; keys = [myuid.hex,] &gt;&gt;&gt; assert str(myuid) in keys # nope 3. In the wild, only Plone 4.1.4 introduces the dash-free representation, and only for new objects. If we are interested in compatibility, it seems we are committed (?) and now must make UUIDs all use the UUID.hex (dash-free) representation? This isn't great for detecting UUIDs with regexes (or the BNF grammar described in RFC 4122) and such, but it does store (slightly) more compactly. 4. Do we care about backward-compatibility with previously stored UUID keys? 5. IIRC, RFC 4122 has a "canonical" form prescribed for representation equivalent to str(uid). What does the (perfectly legal, but more ambiguous) dash-free version mean for potential interoperability with other systems storing/using UUIDs? 6. Can we make the adapters in plone.uuid.adapter normalize values to canonical form on get? What would this break, if anything? 7. Thinking (way too far) ahead: might be nice to have a new BTrees.family128 keyed off 128-bit integers saved as a struct of two C long long values per key, then we're not sacrificing compatibility in representation to save bytes, and we save more bytes overall [1]. Maybe overkill, though (but might be nice for efficient set operations on UUIDs implemented in C). Sean [1] Ways to serialize a UUID: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ </pre> Sean Upton 2012-05-22T16:38:31 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.devel/29759 <pre>Hello everybody, i started to work on this issue last week, and added a response to http://code.google.com/p/dexterity/issues/detail?id=8 Feedback would be appreciated. Kind regards, Franco ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. 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Would the community/foundation consider plone.indexed fit for re-licensing as BSD? http://plone.org/foundation/materials/foundation-resolutions/plone-framework-components-relicensing-policy AFAICT, plone.indexer has no dependencies on GPL packages, as far as I can tell, and seems a good candidate for re-licensing for the same reasons as many of the other packages already re-licensed? Thoughts from key stakeholders (Martin, Hanno, others)? Sean ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. 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Here is the result: https://jenkins.plone.org/view/Plone%20Core/view/Plone%204.2/job/plone-4.2-code-analysis/300/tasksResult/new/ https://jenkins.plone.org/view/Plone%20Core/view/Plone%204.2/job/plone-4.2-code-analysis/300/tasksResult/? The blue bar shows the deprecated unit test methods. If you click on the "types" tab, you can see how many deprecated methods exactly we currently have in the Plone core code: assertEquals3788 assert_1811 failIf1444 failIfAlmostEqual2 failIfEqual91 failUnless4392 failUnlessAlmostEqual2 failUnlessEqual754 failUnlessRaises32 Maybe this helps if people want to clean up things. Oh, and btw, we have around 40.000 Pep8 violations if someone has spare time ;) https://jenkins.plone.org/view/Plone%20Core/view/Plone%204.2/job/plone-4.2-code-analysis/300/violations/? Cheers, timo ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ </pre> Timo Stollenwerk 2012-05-18T07:38:21 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.devel/29748 <pre>Hi all, The Pre-PSE12-strategicesque-sprintacular begins tomorrow. While the assembled group is getting itself…assembled, I'd like to invite the rest of you to join in remotely. The main focus of our sprint is to start removing cruft from the codebase. Right now it looks like we'll be tackling KSS deprecation and testcase updating. There are a number of tasks at https://dev.plone.org/wiki/PloneCoreCleanup and http://www.coactivate.org/projects/pre-pse12-strategicesque-sprintacular/project-home which could use some attention. We'll be online in the #sprint channel on freenode from 9am EST until whenever, starting tomorrow through Monday. Hope you can join in. Eric ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/_______________________________________________ Plone-developers mailing list Plone-developers-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers </pre> Eric Steele 2012-05-18T01:34:43 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.devel/29747 <pre>**Help make Plone more usable for people who rely on assistive technologies, while improving mobile UX &amp; possibly SEO. Join us for a sprint on Plone’s accessibility, where we will work to bring Plone up to or beyond the latest accessibility specs. Code that is ready&lt;https://weblion.psu.edu/trac/weblion/browser/weblion/plonetheme.psuaccessiblesunburst&gt;for review &amp; commit enables Plone 4.1 to pass automated accessibility tests for the Web Content Accessibility Guidelines (WCAG) version 2.0, level AA. We’ll be working on areas including folder views, portlets, content views, styling, and more. If we can complete WCAG 2.0 AA compliance, then Plone will have another advantage for many organizations. Sign up for the Plone accessibility sprint.&lt;https://weblion.tlt.psu.edu/FogBugz/default.asp?W1139&gt; We hope to see you there! </pre> Matt Barkau 2012-05-17T21:36:03 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.devel/29743 <pre>I've been wondering what the best approach would be to create absolute_urls for occurrences in plone.app.event. Since I've added a traverser to traverse separate event occurrences by a URL e.g.: http://plone/event/2012-05-08 For the event portlet I'm stitching the URL "manually" together. I think this could be done better, perhaps by using &lt; at &gt;&lt; at &gt;absolute_url on an occurrence. Since I've seen code which calls 'getURL' on the event, I'm wondering if &lt; at &gt;&lt; at &gt;absolute_url would be the best approach. For my idea to work, I have to create an object and wrap it before calling the view. Any ideas? </pre> Róman Joost 2012-05-16T03:48:30 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.devel/29742 <pre>Hi, I was very puzzled today as I tried to include a readonly field into a schema which is used by a plone.app.registry.controlpanel.RegistryEditForm. Is there any way to use readonly non-persistent fields in this form? It should basically display the date/time without storing it as a record. I went through the plone.autoform, plone.directives.form, plone.registry and the plone.app.registry codebase without finding any clue on how to achieve that. Furthermore to me the code behaves not how I expect: it seems to ignore readonly fields, even though debugging the setup ignoreReadOnly is set to False. Any pointers will be very appreciated, </pre> Roman Joost 2012-05-16T01:23:36 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.devel/29740 <pre>FOCUS The May 18th Plone Tune-Up will focus on triaging tickets in TinyMCE. There will be experts in TinyMCE around to answer questions and provide advice. ABOUT Plone Tune-Ups are regularly scheduled online events that give developers the chance to select and work on resolving issues. Not everyone wants to be a core developer or maintain a product in Plone, but most people have the ability to squash a few bugs, provide QA or improve documentation. Every time you give time back to the community you make Plone a better solution for everyone. As an open source system, Plone relies on developers of all interests and skill levels to participate so that Plone can continue to be a leader among open source Content Management Systems. Experts will be available in a special IRC chat #plone-tuneup if you need help getting started. THE PRIZE: THE EVER POPULAR PLONE TUNE-UP T-SHIRT The Tune-Up prize will be a rare and coveted Plone Tune-Up t-shirt. In the past, these shirts have been awarded for: closing the most tickets, helping new people get started or generally being helpful to others. Up to one shirt may be awarded per Tune-Up at the discretion of the Tune-Up managers. -------------------------------------- PLONE TUNE-UP Friday, May 18, 2012 9am-6pm in your local time zone! http://plone-tuneup.ning.com Join us at #plone-tuneup on irc.freenode.net Twitter tag: #plonetuneup View the list of tickets for this Tune-Up: http://dev.plone.org/plone/report/56 View the list of other tickets you could work on: http://tinyurl.com/TuneUpBugs (if you choose tickets in this list, please tag them "TuneUp56") -------------------------------------- WHAT'S UP? * The most recent development release is Plone 4.2! If you are working on Plone 4 tickets, please point your buildouts to https://github.com/plone/buildout.coredev HOW TO GET STARTED -&gt; On Tune-Up day, go to #plone-tuneup in IRC and ask for a ticket to work on if you don't know which one to pick. If you're wondering about the sort of tickets people start out with, look for tickets tagged as "newbie" or "greenbelt." -&gt; Once you have chosen a ticket, be sure to "accept" it. If you can't, review the process to get commit rights at http://plone.org/community/develop -&gt; Fixes for 4.1 are on http://svn.plone.org/svn/plone/buildouts/plone-coredev/branches/4.1/ -&gt; Fixes for 4.2 are on http://svn.plone.org/svn/plone/buildouts/plone-coredev/branches/4.2/ -&gt; Paste error messages and code to http://pastie.org/ to share them with others in the Tune-Up room. Thanks, Carol------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/_______________________________________________ Plone-developers mailing list Plone-developers-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers </pre> Carol Ganz 2012-05-14T21:45:38 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.devel/29724 <pre>http://dist.plone.org/release/4.2rc1-pending/versions.cfg Plone 4.2rc1 is now soft-released. Point your buildouts at http://dist.plone.org/release/4.2rc1-pending/versions.cfg and let me know that it's working for you. Once I've had a few responses, I'll push it out to the public. Eric ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/_______________________________________________ Plone-developers mailing list Plone-developers-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/plone-developers </pre> Eric Steele 2012-05-08T19:32:49 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.devel/29721 <pre>Hi, because of https://dev.plone.org/ticket/12531 we had to modify our workflow instances for discussion items to hide comments from anonymous search results. Unfortunately, it was not trivial to update permissions for existing comments, because WorkflowTool's "Update security settings" doesn't walk into annotations, where discussion items are stored. We updated our permission with a custom script, which queries the catalog for indexed discussion items, updates their role mappings and reindexes their security. *) How should this be supported in plone.app.discussion? Monkey patching WorkflowTool to walk into annotations (similarly how plone.app.discussion already patches catalog's clearAndRebuild) doesn't feel right. Would it be too confusing to add add an extra button into plone.app.discussion configlet to update comments' permissions? Any thoughts? I also created a ticket for this: https://dev.plone.org/ticket/12879 -Asko *) def update_comments_permissions(self): pc = getToolByName(self, 'portal_catalog') wf_tool = self.portal_workflow wfs = wf_tool.getWorkflowsFor('Discussion Item') brains = pc({'portal_type': 'Discussion Item'}) counter = 0 for brain in brains: obj = brain.getObject() for wf in wfs: counter += 1 wf.updateRoleMappingsFor(obj) obj.reindexObjectSecurity() return counter ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. 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Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ </pre> Rok Garbas 2012-05-05T18:31:03 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.devel/29696 <pre>I have a fresh buildout.coredev clone and while bootstrapping I get: jensens&lt; at &gt;minime:~/workspace/buildout.coredev$ python2.6 bootstrap.py Downloading http://pypi.python.org/packages/source/d/distribute/distribute-0.6.26.tar.gz Extracting in /tmp/tmpEy863S Now working in /tmp/tmpEy863S/distribute-0.6.26 Building a Distribute egg in /tmp/tmpEt2sMI warning: no files found matching 'Makefile' under directory 'docs' warning: no files found matching 'indexsidebar.html' under directory 'docs' /tmp/tmpEt2sMI/distribute-0.6.26-py2.6.egg Creating directory '/home/jensens/workspace/buildout.coredev/bin'. Creating directory '/home/jensens/workspace/buildout.coredev/parts'. Creating directory '/home/jensens/workspace/buildout.coredev/eggs'. Creating directory '/home/jensens/workspace/buildout.coredev/develop-eggs'. Link to http://bitbucket.org/tarek/distribute/get/0.6-maintenance.zip#egg=distribute-dev ***BLOCKED*** by --allow-hosts Getting distribution for 'distribute==0.6.24'. Before install bootstrap. Scanning installed packages No setuptools distribution found warning: no files found matching 'Makefile' under directory 'docs' warning: no files found matching 'indexsidebar.html' under directory 'docs' After install bootstrap. Creating /usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/setuptools-0.6c11-py2.6.egg-info error: /usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/setuptools-0.6c11-py2.6.egg-info: Permission denied An error occurred when trying to install distribute 0.6.24. Look above this message for any errors that were output by easy_install. While: Bootstrapping. Getting distribution for 'distribute==0.6.24'. Error: Couldn't install: distribute 0.6.24 Any ideas whats wrong? </pre> Jens W. Klein 2012-05-04T11:32:30 Search the mailing list at Gmane query http://search.gmane.org/?group=$group=gmane.comp.web.zope.plone.devel