http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.pgf.user hourly 1 1901-01-01T00:00+00:00 http://gmane.org/img/gmane-25t.png http://gmane.org http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.pgf.user/4599 <pre>Hello. I have a diagram where nodes contain tikzpicture environments, each of them have an automaton. The problem is that when I draw lines from on node to an other, both the target and the source of the connecting arrows are misplaced. I have uploaded the latex code at http://pastebin.tlhiv.org/bl1my4rH Initially, I placed the nodes in a matrix but when the arrows where not drawn correctly I tried an alternative placement of the nodes. The result was different but still wrong. </pre> Anakreontas Mentis 2013-04-05T11:45:55 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.pgf.user/4598 <pre>this another test, sorry for disturbance ... zarko ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Own the Future-Intel&amp;reg; Level Up Game Demo Contest 2013 Rise to greatness in Intel's independent game demo contest. Compete for recognition, cash, and the chance to get your game on Steam. $5K grand prize plus 10 genre and skill prizes. Submit your demo by 6/6/13. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel_levelupd2d </pre> Zarko F. Cucej 2013-03-26T17:15:02 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.pgf.user/4596 <pre>sorry for disturbance,i just checking, why my me-mails to list not appear on list any more ... Z ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Own the Future-Intel&amp;reg; Level Up Game Demo Contest 2013 Rise to greatness in Intel's independent game demo contest. 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Cucej 2013-03-26T16:49:40 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.pgf.user/4595 <pre>Hi, many times i need togive some description to groups of successive (rectangle) shapes, i.e. something like this: \documentclass[tikz]{standalone} \usetikzlibrary{decorations.pathreplacing} \begin{document} \begin{tikzpicture}[ box/.style = {draw, minimum size=9pt,inner sep=1pt, outer sep=0pt, right}, brc/.style = {decorate, decoration={brace,raise=1mm}}, shorten &lt;&gt;/.style = {shorten &gt;=#1pt, shorten &lt;=#1pt} ] \coordinate (a0) at (0,0); \foreach \x [count=\xi from 0] in {1,...,4} \node[box] (a\x) at (a\xi.east) {\x}; \draw[brc] (a1.north west) to node[above=2mm] {A} (a2.north east); \draw[brc] (a3.north west) to node[above=2mm] {B} (a4.north east); \draw[brc,shorten &lt;&gt;=1] (a2.south east) to node[below=2mm] {C} (a1.south west); \draw[brc,shorten &lt;&gt;=1] (a4.south east) to node[below=2mm] {D} (a3.south west); \end{tikzpicture} \end{document} where i like to have small space between successive braceswithout changing braces coordinates. so i try to use shorten, but result is only partly satisfactory... (see braces C and D). well, if i set shorten to 0.5 points, braces look perfectly, but distance between them is little to small. do anyone has better solution? regards, Zarko ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_mar </pre> Zarko F. Cucej 2013-03-24T15:30:43 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.pgf.user/4592 <pre>Hi, in pgf manual the patterns description is described very, very shortly ... so i like to know, if it is possible to define for example line width for north east lines patterns? regards, Zarko ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_mar </pre> Zarko F. Cucej 2013-03-23T18:37:12 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.pgf.user/4588 <pre>Hello everybody, I am trying to draw a circular arc, but somehow cannot get it to work. The minimal example I've put together based on my understanding of the documentation looks like this: \documentclass{article} \usepackage{tikz} \begin{document} \begin{tikzpicture} \begin{scope} \clip (0cm,0cm) rectangle (8cm,3cm) ; \begin{scope} [color=black] \draw [fill=none] (3.0 2.0) arc (0:90:1.0 and 1.0) ; \draw [fill=none] (2.0, 2.0) ellipse (1.0 and 1.0) ; \end{scope} \end{scope} \end{tikzpicture} \end{document} Drawing the ellipse works fine (if I comment out the line with the arc command), but with the arc I get the following output: This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-1.40.10 (TeX Live 2009/openSUSE) (format=pdflatex 2012.7.21) 21 MAR 2013 17:42 entering extended mode %&amp;-line parsing enabled. **construction.tex (./construction.tex LaTeX2e &lt;2009/09/24&gt; [...] ! Package pgf Error: No shape named 3 is known. See the pgf package documentation for explanation. Type H &lt;return&gt; for immediate help. ... l.8 \draw [fill=none] (3.0 2.0) arc (0:90:1.0 and 1.0) ; Does anyone know where my mistake is? Thanks and best wishes, Lutz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_mar </pre> Lutz Gehlen 2013-03-21T16:47:42 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.pgf.user/4583 <pre>hi, is there a way to "on-line" calculate the minimum width of rectangle shape? something like: %------- \documentclass{standalone} \usepackage{tikz} \usetikzlibrary{shapes} \begin{document} \begin{tikzpicture} \node[draw,minimum width=&lt;math expression&gt; mm] {?}; \end{tikzpicture} %------- i try for math expression to use something like: \pgfmathparse{3*log10(10)}\pgfmathresult but it giveserror: ! incomplete \iffalse; all text was ignored after line ... please help me! regards, zarko ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_mar </pre> Zarko F. Cucej 2013-03-17T06:25:18 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.pgf.user/4581 <pre>Hi, i often use rectangle split for sketch of comparison of the communication models. there it will be quit handy if for not empty shape parts will exist similar macro as for empty parts: rectangle split empty part height=&lt;length&gt; or even better, if it will be capable to consider different height for each shape parts as this do rectangle split part fill={color-1, color-2, ...} for colour of shape parts, i.e. th macro should have the following syntax: rectangle split part height = {height 1, height 2, ...} now i help myself with use of rules in each part with width=0 and desired height. This is not quite an elegant solution ... any help in defining desired macro i will very appreciated! regards, Zarko ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_mar </pre> Zarko F. Cucej 2013-03-16T00:12:20 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.pgf.user/4579 <pre>Hi, i have problemswith shape "chamfered rectangle". see mwe below. Why are both shapes aren't in the line? and why they are not the same shape (the shapes are different regardless how much are minimal width and chamfered rectangle xsep. I like to have all shapes in form as has the left one, regardless of length inside text. %%%% \documentclass{article} \usepackage{tikz} \usetikzlibrary{positioning,shapes,shapes.misc,} \begin{document} \begin{tikzpicture}[% chamfered rectangle, chamfered rectangle angle=45, chamfered rectangle xsep=12mm, minimum width=16mm, minimum height=10mm, align=center] \node[draw] (a) {some long,\\ long text}; \node[draw,below right=0mm and 22mm] (b) at (a.after north east) {short}; \node[draw,below right=0mm and 22mm] (c) at (b.after north east) {}; \end{tikzpicture} \end{document} %%%% regards, zarko ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_feb </pre> Zarko F. Cucej 2013-02-23T00:59:14 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.pgf.user/4577 <pre>Hi, for bunch of my tikz pictures i design common tikzset, where i defined properties of used shapesand lines. many of them have dropped shadow, but sometime it happens, that for particular shape i like to omit dropped shadow but preserve common tikset because of other definition in it and standardised designof sketches. I tried with shapeX/.add style = {}{drop shadow=none} similar as this is possible at driving lines, but without any success. apparently tikz doesn't provide this functionality ... do someone know for solution? or i need to make feature request? well, i can always determine new style name for these cases, but his make me problems all the time inventing a new (short) names with some meaning ... regards, zarko ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_feb </pre> Zarko F. Cucej 2013-02-19T13:57:57 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.pgf.user/4576 <pre>I noticed that combining the 'bend right' option and 'auto' label placement gives weird results when applied to somewhat short paths. In the attached example, notice that the dots appear in the wrong order. If the distance of A and B is increased, or the 'auto' option removed, then one gets the expected result. In the second picture, which is just slightly asymmetric, even the [pos=0.5] case behave badly. Now, is this a bug, or lack of precision in TeX arithmetic, or is it just the way the 'auto' algorithm works? \documentclass{article} \usepackage{tikz} \begin{document} \begin{tikzpicture} \node[draw,name=a]{A}; \node[draw,name=b, below=8mm]{B}; \draw[bend right] (a) to (b); \foreach \x/\y in {0.1/blue,0.3/purple,0.5/red,0.7/green,0.9/yellow} { \path[bend right] (a) to node [auto,pos=\x,color=\y]{.} (b); } \end{tikzpicture} \begin{tikzpicture} \node[draw,name=a]{A}; \node[draw,name=b, below=8mm]{B}; \draw[out=-120,in=115] (a) to (b); \foreach \x/\y in {0.1/blue,0.3/purple,0.5/red,0.7/green,0.9/yellow} { \path[out=-120,in=115] (a) to node [auto,pos=\x,color=\y]{.} (b); } \end{tikzpicture} \end{document} ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel - in partnership with Geeknet, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials, tech docs, whitepapers, evaluation guides, and opinion stories. Check out the most recent posts - join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ </pre> Florêncio Neves 2013-02-16T22:04:31 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.pgf.user/4569 <pre>Hi, using cylinder shape I expect that it has fixed shape regardless of text inside -- of course if the text is shorter than minimum width - inner sep. From MWE below it seem that this is not a case. \documentclass{minimal} \usepackage{tikz} \usetikzlibrary{shapes} \begin{document} \begin{tikzpicture}[ D/.style = {name=r#1, shape=cylinder, draw, aspect=0.5, shape border rotate=90, minimum width=16mm, minimum height=7mm, right=3mm} ] \node[D=1] {1}; \node[D=2] at (r1.east) {11}; \node[D=3] at (r2.east) {111}; \end{tikzpicture} \end{document} How to make at all three shapes equal? Regards, Zarko ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Free Next-Gen Firewall Hardware Offer Buy your Sophos next-gen firewall before the end March 2013 and get the hardware for free! Learn more. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sophos-d2d-feb </pre> Zarko F. Cucej 2013-02-09T10:20:42 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.pgf.user/4561 <pre>Hi, pgfplots-users. In this representation of the ideal gas law, how do I get the temperatures correctly displayed in the legend? Thank you. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Free Next-Gen Firewall Hardware Offer Buy your Sophos next-gen firewall before the end March 2013 and get the hardware for free! Learn more. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sophos-d2d-feb_______________________________________________ pgf-users mailing list pgf-users&lt; at &gt;lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pgf-users </pre> Hugues Vermeiren 2013-02-08T17:46:02 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.pgf.user/4560 <pre>Hi, doing my first steps with the fadings library I ran into the following problem: the scaling of the tikzfadingfrompicture. When building the enclosed example I had to set the size of the rectangle to (1.7,1.7) to get a nearly correct size. I'm quite sure this is not the correct way. But I don't know how to go the right way! Regards, Jürgen Code: \documentclass{minimal} \usepackage{tikz} \usetikzlibrary{fadings} % \begin{document} \begin{tikzpicture} \begin{tikzfadingfrompicture}[name=fade right] \shade[inner color=transparent!100,outer color=transparent!0] (0,0) rectangle (1.7,1.7); \end{tikzfadingfrompicture} % \clip (0,0) rectangle (11.8,7.5); \foreach \i in {0,1,2,...,49} {% \foreach \j in {0,1,2,...,20} {% \pgfmathrandominteger{\n}{0}{1} \node[font=\bfseries,blue] at (\i*0.24cm,\j*0.36cm) {\n}; }; }; \fill[path fading=fade right,red] (0,0) rectangle (11.8,7.5); \end{tikzpicture}% \end{document} ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Free Next-Gen Firewall Hardware Offer Buy your Sophos next-gen firewall before the end March 2013 and get the hardware for free! Learn more. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sophos-d2d-feb_______________________________________________ pgf-users mailing list pgf-users&lt; at &gt;lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pgf-users </pre> Goebel, Juergen 2013-02-08T13:32:56 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.pgf.user/4558 <pre>Hi, In the manual of the version "build date 2012-11-04" (and in older versions, too) is a bug in the description of \pgfmathrandominteger (p 539): maximum and minimum (parameters two and three) are interchanged. Regards, Jürgen ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Free Next-Gen Firewall Hardware Offer Buy your Sophos next-gen firewall before the end March 2013 and get the hardware for free! Learn more. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sophos-d2d-feb_______________________________________________ pgf-users mailing list pgf-users&lt; at &gt;lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pgf-users </pre> Goebel, Juergen 2013-02-07T06:31:18 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.pgf.user/4557 <pre>Hello. At http://pastebin.tlhiv.org/_wHigrpb I have placed a code sample that achieves the desired result. I would like to automate the definition of similar diagrams where a state machine is enclosed in a rectangular border with bullets placed on the borders with a label. Now I explicitly define two nodes, one for the leftmost and an other for the rightmost coordinates that define the rectangle. Is it possible to calculate the area which would enclose the state machine and the labels on the arrows? The fit library encloses the nodes but not the labels of the connections between the states and I need to pass the state nodes as arguments to the enclosing node. Secondly, I tried to create a macro that would accept a list of node labels and draw circles on the border with the provided label. I am certain this can be done but I need some help on the implementation. Provided that there are two nodes called leftmost and rightmost that store the coordinates of the enclosing rectangle and an offset, the macro would be (in pseudo code): \providecommand{\ports}[2]{ %arg 1: offset in the x axis of the first port %arg 2 list of labels distance = (rightmost.x - leftmost.x - 2 * offset)/label count count = 0 foreach label in labels \path (leftmost.north -| #leftmost.east)+(count * distance + offset, 0) node (name) {}; \fill (name) circle (.1cm); \path (name) + (0, 0.3) node {label}; count++ Best regards, Anakreontas Mentis ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. SALE $99.99 this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122412_______________________________________________ pgf-users mailing list pgf-users&lt; at &gt;lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pgf-users </pre> Anakreontas Mentis 2013-01-14T13:07:07 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.pgf.user/4542 <pre>Hi, In my drawing, I found the arrow tips looks too large, since some of my lines are so short ones. But after searched through the manual, I haven't figured out a way to reduce their sizes. What's the right way to do the job? Thanks in advance. </pre> Woody Wu 2013-01-09T05:38:42 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.pgf.user/4541 <pre>Hi, In a matrix, there are a serial of cells each of which is a node. I hope the matrix can have a dashed boarder but cell notes have solid ones. But as long as I specify something like: \matrix[draw, dashed ...] { ... } All the cell nodes in the matrix also get affected by the 'dashed' option, it cause all those cell nodes also have dashed boarder, which is not what I expected. How do I solve the problem? Thanks in advance! -woody </pre> Woody Wu 2013-01-09T05:12:50 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.pgf.user/4538 <pre>Hi, Supposse I have two matrix, left one is A and right one is B, each of them contains a column of nodes. Then I want to align the A and B. Case 1: To align top of B with top of A. I did something like: \node (B) [matrix, anchor=north west, right=of A.north east, matrix of nodes ....] { ... }; But this doesn't work, it seems that the 'anchor' setting for the matrix is not taking effets. Case 2: To align the first cell (a node) in B with the second cell (a node) in A. For this, I totally have no idea. Could anyone please help me? Thanks in advance. </pre> Woody Wu 2013-01-08T08:50:32 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.pgf.user/4537 <pre>Hi all, is there a way to change the default of &lt;&gt; when using it in \path commands for example from \only to \uncover? The idea is to just use \draw&lt;+-&gt; ...; instead of \uncover&lt;+-&gt;{\draw ...;} Best regards, Stefan % ----- minimal example ----- \documentclass{beamer} \usepackage{tikz} \setbeamercovered{transparent} \begin{document} \begin{frame}{test} \begin{tikzpicture} \path coordinate (a) at (0,0) coordinate (b) at (0,2) coordinate (c) at (1,3.25) coordinate (d) at (2,2) coordinate (e) at (2,0) ; \begin{scope}[ thick, % round corners=8pt, ] \draw&lt;+-&gt; (a) -- (b); \draw&lt;+-&gt; (b) -- (c); \draw&lt;+-&gt; (c) -- (d); \draw&lt;+-&gt; (d) -- (e); \draw&lt;+-&gt; (e) -- (b); \draw&lt;+-&gt; (b) -- (d); \draw&lt;+-&gt; (d) -- (a); \uncover&lt;+-&gt;{\draw (a) -- (e);} \end{scope} \end{tikzpicture} \end{frame} \end{document} % --------------------------- _________________________________________ Mo-Gul ICQ#: 103773400 IRC: #$h0cK or #t-x &lt; at &gt; QuakeNet More ways to contact me: http://wwp.icq.com/103773400 See more about me: http://web.icq.com/whitepages/about_me?Uin=103773400 _________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_123012_______________________________________________ pgf-users mailing list pgf-users&lt; at &gt;lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pgf-users </pre> Stefan Pinnow 2013-01-06T14:41:53 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.pgf.user/4536 <pre>Happy New Year to everybody, I have a question regarding the trapezium shape. Is it intended that the trapezium changes its size based on the "original" bounding box" of the node? As you can see in the attached minimal example the trapezium gets really large when the width (as `text width' or `minimal width') and height are given (column 4 of the matrix). Best regards, Stefan Pinnow % ----- minimal example ----- \documentclass[DIV=20,landscape]{scrartcl} \usepackage{tikz} \usetikzlibrary{ matrix, positioning, shapes.geometric, } \begin{document} %\tikzset{my node/.style={trapezium, fill=#1!20, draw=#1!75, text=black}} %\begin{tikzpicture} % \draw [help lines] grid (3,2); % \node [my node=red] {A}; % \node [my node=green, minimum height=1.5cm] at (1, 1.25) {B}; % \node [my node=blue, minimum width=1.5cm] at (2, 0) {C}; %\end{tikzpicture} %% % \hspace{2cm} %% \begin{tikzpicture} \tikzset{trapezium stretches=true} \draw [help lines] grid (3,2); \node [my node=red] {A}; \node [my node=green, minimum height=1.5cm] at (1, 1.25) {B}; \node [my node=blue, minimum width=1.5cm] at (2, 0) {C}; \end{tikzpicture} \begin{tikzpicture}[ a/.style={ trapezium, draw=blue, align=center, }, b/.style={ a, text width=10em, % minimum width=10em, }, c/.style={ a, minimum height=10ex, }, d/.style={ b, c, }, ] \matrix [ matrix of nodes, row sep={10ex,between origins}, column sep={15em,between origins}, nodes={ align=center, text width=1em, }, column 1/.style={every node/.append style={a}}, column 2/.style={every node/.append style={b}}, column 3/.style={every node/.append style={c}}, column 4/.style={every node/.append style={d,draw=green}}, %% row 4/.style={every node/.append style={trapezium stretches=true}}, row 5/.style={every node/.append style={trapezium stretches=true}}, % row 7/.style={every node/.append style={trapezium stretches body=true}}, row 8/.style={every node/.append style={trapezium stretches body=true}}, ] (m) { {test} &amp; {test} &amp; {test} &amp; {test} \\ {test \\ test} &amp; {test \\ test} &amp; {test \\ test} &amp; {test \\ test} \\ &amp; &amp; &amp; \\ {test} &amp; {test} &amp; {test} &amp; {test} \\ {test \\ test} &amp; {test \\ test} &amp; {test \\ test} &amp; {test \\ test} \\ &amp; &amp; &amp; \\ {test} &amp; {test} &amp; {test} &amp; {test} \\ {test \\ test} &amp; {test \\ test} &amp; {test \\ test} &amp; {test \\ test} \\ }; \foreach \i/\j in { 1/8, 4/8, 7/8% } \foreach \k in {1,...,4} { \draw [red] (m-\i-\k.top right corner) -- (m-\i-\k.top right corner |- m-\j-\k.top right corner); \draw [red] (m-\i-\k.top left corner) -- (m-\i-\k.top left corner |- m-\j-\k.top left corner); % \draw [red] (m-\i-\k.bottom right corner) -- (m-\i-\k.bottom right corner |- m-\j-\k.bottom right corner); \draw [red] (m-\i-\k.bottom left corner) -- (m-\i-\k.bottom left corner |- m-\j-\k.bottom left corner); } \foreach \i/\j in { 2/8, 5/8% } \foreach \k in {1,...,4} { \draw [orange] (m-\i-\k.top right corner) -- (m-\i-\k.top right corner |- m-\j-\k.top right corner); \draw [orange] (m-\i-\k.top left corner) -- (m-\i-\k.top left corner |- m-\j-\k.top left corner); % \draw [orange] (m-\i-\k.bottom right corner) -- (m-\i-\k.bottom right corner |- m-\j-\k.bottom right corner); \draw [orange] (m-\i-\k.bottom left corner) -- (m-\i-\k.bottom left corner |- m-\j-\k.bottom left corner); } \end{tikzpicture} \end{document} % --------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_123012_______________________________________________ pgf-users mailing list pgf-users&lt; at &gt;lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pgf-users </pre> Stefan Pinnow 2013-01-06T14:00:35 Search the mailing list at Gmane query http://search.gmane.org/?group=$group=gmane.comp.tex.pgf.user