http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.devel hourly 1 1901-01-01T00:00+00:00 http://gmane.org/img/gmane-25t.png http://gmane.org http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.devel/132845 <pre>I think that I will make a browser in Official Python (not MacPorts Python). What should I do in order to install Webkit for Official Python (not MacPorts Python) ? from tokyo Japan. </pre> Mr.T Beppu 2012-05-26T12:42:23 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.devel/132833 <pre>As some have probably noticed: I updated the Rietveld version that we use to the current code base. There have been a few incompatible changes (schema, GAE API) which I hope I resolved. If you find new problems, please report them to the meta tracker. Regards, Martin </pre> martin< at >v.loewis.de 2012-05-25T17:57:51 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.devel/132830 <pre>I'd like to make a slight doc change for weakref to state (more or less): weakrefs are not invalidated when the strong refs are gone, but rather when garbage collection reclaims the object Should this be accurate for all implementations, or should it be more along the lines of: weakrefs may be invalidated as soon as the strong refs are gone, but may last until garbage collection reclaims the object ~Ethan~ </pre> Ethan Furman 2012-05-25T17:21:39 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.devel/132826 <pre> ACTIVITY SUMMARY (2012-05-18 - 2012-05-25) Python tracker at http://bugs.python.org/ To view or respond to any of the issues listed below, click on the issue. Do NOT respond to this message. Issues counts and deltas: open 3440 ( +8) closed 23254 (+58) total 26694 (+66) Open issues with patches: 1455 Issues opened (44) ================== #11804: expat parser not xml 1.1 (breaks xmlrpclib) http://bugs.python.org/issue11804 reopened by xrg #14852: json and ElementTree parsers misbehave on streams containing m http://bugs.python.org/issue14852 opened by Frederick.Ross #14853: test_file.py depends on sys.stdin being unseekable http://bugs.python.org/issue14853 opened by gregory.p.smith #14854: faulthandler: fatal error with "SystemError: null argument to http://bugs.python.org/issue14854 opened by zbysz #14855: IPv6 support for logging.handlers http://bugs.python.org/issue14855 opened by cblp #14856: argparse: creating an already defined subparsers does not rais http://bugs.python.org/issue14856 opened by eacb #14857: Direct access to lexically scoped __class__ is broken in 3.3 http://bugs.python.org/issue14857 opened by ncoghlan #14858: 'pysetup create' off-by-one when choosing classification matur http://bugs.python.org/issue14858 opened by todddeluca #14869: imaplib erronously quotes atoms such as flags http://bugs.python.org/issue14869 opened by brightbyte #14870: Descriptions of os.utime() and os.utimensat() use wrong notati http://bugs.python.org/issue14870 opened by hynek #14871: Rewrite the command line parsers and actions system used in di http://bugs.python.org/issue14871 opened by eric.araujo #14873: Windows devguide: clarification for build errors due to missin http://bugs.python.org/issue14873 opened by valhallasw #14874: Faster charmap decoding http://bugs.python.org/issue14874 opened by storchaka #14876: IDLE highlighting theme does not preview with user-selected fo http://bugs.python.org/issue14876 opened by andrew.m #14877: No option to run bdist_wininst against newer msvc versions on http://bugs.python.org/issue14877 opened by Aaron.Staley #14878: send statement from PEP342 is poorly documented. http://bugs.python.org/issue14878 opened by Stephen.Lacy #14879: invalid docs for subprocess exceptions with shell=True http://bugs.python.org/issue14879 opened by techtonik #14880: csv.reader and .writer use wrong kwargs notation in 2.7 docs http://bugs.python.org/issue14880 opened by hynek #14881: multiprocessing.dummy craches when self._parent._children does http://bugs.python.org/issue14881 opened by Itay.Brandes #14882: Link/Compile Error on Sun Sparc Solaris10 with gcc3.4.3----pyt http://bugs.python.org/issue14882 opened by seeker77 #14886: json C vs pure-python implementation difference http://bugs.python.org/issue14886 opened by mmarkk #14892: 'import readline' hangs when launching with '&amp;' on BSD and OS http://bugs.python.org/issue14892 opened by olivier-mattelaer #14893: Tutorial: Add function annotation example to function tutorial http://bugs.python.org/issue14893 opened by zach.ware #14894: distutils.LooseVersion fails to compare number and a word http://bugs.python.org/issue14894 opened by Natalia #14895: test_warnings.py EnvironmentVariableTests is a bad test http://bugs.python.org/issue14895 opened by tebeka #14897: struct.pack raises unexpected error message http://bugs.python.org/issue14897 opened by mesheb82 #14899: Naming conventions and guidelines for packages and namespace p http://bugs.python.org/issue14899 opened by benoitbryon #14900: cProfile does not take its result headers as sort arguments http://bugs.python.org/issue14900 opened by ArneBab #14901: Python Windows FAQ is Very Outdated http://bugs.python.org/issue14901 opened by michael.driscoll #14902: test_logging failed http://bugs.python.org/issue14902 opened by cblp #14903: dictobject infinite loop on 2.6.5 on 32-bit x86 http://bugs.python.org/issue14903 opened by Daniel.Farina #14904: test_unicode_repr_oflw (in test_bigmem) crashes http://bugs.python.org/issue14904 opened by pitrou #14905: zipimport.c needs to support namespace packages when no 'direc http://bugs.python.org/issue14905 opened by eric.smith #14906: rotatingHandler WindowsError http://bugs.python.org/issue14906 opened by jacuro #14907: SSL module cannot handle unicode filenames http://bugs.python.org/issue14907 opened by ms4py #14908: datetime.datetime should have a timestamp() method http://bugs.python.org/issue14908 opened by djc #14909: Fix incorrect use of *Realloc() and *Resize() http://bugs.python.org/issue14909 opened by kristjan.jonsson #14910: argparse: disable abbreviation http://bugs.python.org/issue14910 opened by jens.jaehrig #14911: generator.throw() documentation inaccurate http://bugs.python.org/issue14911 opened by kristjan.jonsson #14912: Pdb does not stop at a breakpoint after a restart command and http://bugs.python.org/issue14912 opened by xdegaye #14913: tokenize the source to manage Pdb breakpoints http://bugs.python.org/issue14913 opened by xdegaye #14914: pysetup installed distribute despite dry run option being spec http://bugs.python.org/issue14914 opened by ncoghlan #14915: pysetup may leave a package in a half-installed state http://bugs.python.org/issue14915 opened by ncoghlan #14916: PyRun_InteractiveLoop fails to run interactively when using a http://bugs.python.org/issue14916 opened by Kevin.Barry Most recent 15 issues with no replies (15) ========================================== #14916: PyRun_InteractiveLoop fails to run interactively when using a http://bugs.python.org/issue14916 #14915: pysetup may leave a package in a half-installed state http://bugs.python.org/issue14915 #14914: pysetup installed distribute despite dry run option being spec http://bugs.python.org/issue14914 #14913: tokenize the source to manage Pdb breakpoints http://bugs.python.org/issue14913 #14911: generator.throw() documentation inaccurate http://bugs.python.org/issue14911 #14910: argparse: disable abbreviation http://bugs.python.org/issue14910 #14909: Fix incorrect use of *Realloc() and *Resize() http://bugs.python.org/issue14909 #14906: rotatingHandler WindowsError http://bugs.python.org/issue14906 #14904: test_unicode_repr_oflw (in test_bigmem) crashes http://bugs.python.org/issue14904 #14900: cProfile does not take its result headers as sort arguments http://bugs.python.org/issue14900 #14874: Faster charmap decoding http://bugs.python.org/issue14874 #14871: Rewrite the command line parsers and actions system used in di http://bugs.python.org/issue14871 #14858: 'pysetup create' off-by-one when choosing classification matur http://bugs.python.org/issue14858 #14853: test_file.py depends on sys.stdin being unseekable http://bugs.python.org/issue14853 #14852: json and ElementTree parsers misbehave on streams containing m http://bugs.python.org/issue14852 Most recent 15 issues waiting for review (15) ============================================= #14913: tokenize the source to manage Pdb breakpoints http://bugs.python.org/issue14913 #14909: Fix incorrect use of *Realloc() and *Resize() http://bugs.python.org/issue14909 #14900: cProfile does not take its result headers as sort arguments http://bugs.python.org/issue14900 #14899: Naming conventions and guidelines for packages and namespace p http://bugs.python.org/issue14899 #14895: test_warnings.py EnvironmentVariableTests is a bad test http://bugs.python.org/issue14895 #14893: Tutorial: Add function annotation example to function tutorial http://bugs.python.org/issue14893 #14876: IDLE highlighting theme does not preview with user-selected fo http://bugs.python.org/issue14876 #14874: Faster charmap decoding http://bugs.python.org/issue14874 #14873: Windows devguide: clarification for build errors due to missin http://bugs.python.org/issue14873 #14856: argparse: creating an already defined subparsers does not rais http://bugs.python.org/issue14856 #14855: IPv6 support for logging.handlers http://bugs.python.org/issue14855 #14854: faulthandler: fatal error with "SystemError: null argument to http://bugs.python.org/issue14854 #14843: support define_macros / undef_macros in setup.cfg http://bugs.python.org/issue14843 #14840: Tutorial: Add a bit on the difference between tuples and lists http://bugs.python.org/issue14840 #14837: Better SSL errors http://bugs.python.org/issue14837 Top 10 most discussed issues (10) ================================= #14814: Implement PEP 3144 (the ipaddress module) http://bugs.python.org/issue14814 15 msgs #14775: Dict untracking can result in quadratic dict build-up http://bugs.python.org/issue14775 12 msgs #14855: IPv6 support for logging.handlers http://bugs.python.org/issue14855 11 msgs #11804: expat parser not xml 1.1 (breaks xmlrpclib) http://bugs.python.org/issue11804 7 msgs #12014: str.format parses replacement field incorrectly http://bugs.python.org/issue12014 7 msgs #14744: Use _PyUnicodeWriter API in str.format() internals http://bugs.python.org/issue14744 7 msgs #14854: faulthandler: fatal error with "SystemError: null argument to http://bugs.python.org/issue14854 7 msgs #14886: json C vs pure-python implementation difference http://bugs.python.org/issue14886 6 msgs #14894: distutils.LooseVersion fails to compare number and a word http://bugs.python.org/issue14894 6 msgs #1191964: asynchronous Subprocess http://bugs.python.org/issue1191964 6 msgs Issues closed (54) ================== #4033: python search path - .pth recursion http://bugs.python.org/issue4033 closed by brett.cannon #9374: urlparse should parse query and fragment for arbitrary schemes http://bugs.python.org/issue9374 closed by orsenthil #9400: multiprocessing.pool.AsyncResult.get() messes up exceptions http://bugs.python.org/issue9400 closed by sbt #11647: function decorated with a context manager can only be invoked http://bugs.python.org/issue11647 closed by ncoghlan #12098: Child process running as debug on Windows http://bugs.python.org/issue12098 closed by sbt #13152: textwrap: support custom tabsize http://bugs.python.org/issue13152 closed by hynek #13208: Problems with urllib on windows http://bugs.python.org/issue13208 closed by holdenweb #13210: Support Visual Studio 2010 http://bugs.python.org/issue13210 closed by loewis #13445: Enable linking the module pysqlite with Berkeley DB SQL instea http://bugs.python.org/issue13445 closed by petri.lehtinen #13585: Add contextlib.ExitStack http://bugs.python.org/issue13585 closed by python-dev #13682: Documentation of os.fdopen() refers to non-existing bufsize ar http://bugs.python.org/issue13682 closed by petri.lehtinen #14072: urlparse on tel: URI-s misses the scheme in some cases http://bugs.python.org/issue14072 closed by ezio.melotti #14075: argparse: unused method? http://bugs.python.org/issue14075 closed by petri.lehtinen #14136: Simplify PEP 409 command line test and move it to test_cmd_lin http://bugs.python.org/issue14136 closed by python-dev #14426: date format problem in Cookie/http.cookies http://bugs.python.org/issue14426 closed by orsenthil #14472: .gitignore is outdated http://bugs.python.org/issue14472 closed by petri.lehtinen #14494: __future__.py and its documentation claim absolute imports bec http://bugs.python.org/issue14494 closed by petri.lehtinen #14572: 2.7.3: sqlite module does not build on centos 5 and Mac OS X 1 http://bugs.python.org/issue14572 closed by ned.deily #14588: PEP 3115 compliant dynamic class creation http://bugs.python.org/issue14588 closed by python-dev #14660: Implement PEP 420: Implicit Namespace Packages http://bugs.python.org/issue14660 closed by eric.smith #14721: httplib doesn't specify content-length header for POST request http://bugs.python.org/issue14721 closed by orsenthil #14798: pyclbr raises KeyError when the prefix of a dotted name is not http://bugs.python.org/issue14798 closed by petri.lehtinen #14804: Wrong defaults args notation in docs http://bugs.python.org/issue14804 closed by hynek #14821: _ctypes and other modules not built with msbuild on vs2010 sol http://bugs.python.org/issue14821 closed by jason.coombs #14822: Build unusable when compiled for Win 64-bit release http://bugs.python.org/issue14822 closed by jason.coombs #14831: make r argument on itertools.combinations() optional http://bugs.python.org/issue14831 closed by terry.reedy #14833: Copyright date in footer of /pypi says 2011 http://bugs.python.org/issue14833 closed by terry.reedy #14836: Add next(iter(o)) to set.pop, dict.popitem entries. http://bugs.python.org/issue14836 closed by rhettinger #14838: IDLE Will not load on reinstall http://bugs.python.org/issue14838 closed by loewis #14842: Link to function time() in the docs point to the time module http://bugs.python.org/issue14842 closed by python-dev #14849: C implementation of ElementTree: Inheriting from Element break http://bugs.python.org/issue14849 closed by eli.bendersky #14851: Python-2.6.8 install fails due to missing files http://bugs.python.org/issue14851 closed by ned.deily #14859: Patch to make IDLE window rise to top in OS X on launch http://bugs.python.org/issue14859 closed by ned.deily #14860: devguide: Clarify how to run cpython test suite - esp. on 2.7 http://bugs.python.org/issue14860 closed by ezio.melotti #14861: Make ./python -m test work to run test suite in Python 2.7 http://bugs.python.org/issue14861 closed by loewis #14862: os.__all__ is missing some names http://bugs.python.org/issue14862 closed by petri.lehtinen #14863: Update docs of os.fdopen() http://bugs.python.org/issue14863 closed by petri.lehtinen #14864: Mention logging.disable(logging.NOTSET) to reset the command i http://bugs.python.org/issue14864 closed by python-dev #14865: #doctest: directives removed from doctest chapter examples http://bugs.python.org/issue14865 closed by terry.reedy #14866: 2.x,3.x iOS static build: Fatal Python error: exceptions boots http://bugs.python.org/issue14866 closed by amaury.forgeotdarc #14867: chm link missing from 2.7.3 download page http://bugs.python.org/issue14867 closed by ned.deily #14868: Allow log calls to return True for code optimization. http://bugs.python.org/issue14868 closed by Llu</pre> Python tracker 2012-05-25T16:07:06 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.devel/132819 <pre>As the latest round of updates that Carl and Vinay pushed to the PEPs repo have addressed my few remaining questions, I am accepting PEP 405 for inclusion in Python 3.3. Thanks to all involved in working out the spec for what to model directly on virtualenv, and areas where cleaner solutions could be found given the power to tweak the behaviour of the core interpreter and the standard library. Cheers, Nick. </pre> Nick Coghlan 2012-05-25T08:44:14 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.devel/132816 <pre>The free Visual Studio 11 Express for Windows 8 (still in beta) will produce both 32 and 64 bit binaries and allow multiple languages but will only produce Metro apps. For desktop apps, either the paid Visual Studio versions or the free 2010 Express releases are required. https://www.microsoft.com/visualstudio/11/en-us/products/express bottom of page. Will this inhibit someday moving to Visual Studio 11 Professional or would VS2010 Express or VC++2010 Express still work for hacking on Python or making extensions that would work with any VS11-produced binary? </pre> Terry Reedy 2012-05-24T22:21:33 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.devel/132804 <pre>Hello all. I seem to be encountering somewhat rare an infinite loop in hash table probing while importing _socket, as triggered by init_socket.c in Python 2.6, as seen/patched shipped with Ubuntu 10.04 LTS. The problem only reproduces on 32 bit machines, on both -O2 and -O0 builds (which is how I have managed to retrieve the detailed stack traces below). To cut to the chase, the bottom of the stack trace invariably looks like this, in particular the "key" (and therefore "hash") value is always the same: #0 0x08088637 in lookdict_string (mp=0xa042714, key='SO_RCVTIMEO', hash=612808203) at ../Objects/dictobject.c:421 #1 0x080886cd in insertdict (mp=0xa042714, key='SO_RCVTIMEO', hash=612808203, value=20) at ../Objects/dictobject.c:450 #2 0x08088cac in PyDict_SetItem (op=&lt;unknown at remote 0x37&gt;, key= 'SO_RCVTIMEO', value=20) at ../Objects/dictobject.c:701 #3 0x0808b8d4 in PyDict_SetItemString (v= {'AF_INET6': 10, 'SocketType': &lt;type at remote 0x8275e00&gt;, 'getaddrinfo': &lt;built-in function getaddrinfo&gt;, 'TIPC_MEDIUM_IMPORTANCE': 1, 'htonl': &lt;built-in function htonl&gt;, 'AF_UNSPEC': 0, 'TIPC_DEST_DROPPABLE': 129, 'TIPC_ADDR_ID': 3, 'PF_PACKET': 17, 'AF_WANPIPE': 25, 'PACKET_OTHERHOST': 3, 'AF_AX25': 3, 'PACKET_BROADCAST': 1, 'PACKET_FASTROUTE': 6, 'TIPC_NODE_SCOPE': 3, 'inet_pton': &lt;built-in function inet_pton&gt;, 'AF_ATMPVC': 8, 'NETLINK_IP6_FW': 13, 'NETLINK_ROUTE': 0, 'TIPC_PUBLISHED': 1, 'TIPC_WITHDRAWN': 2, 'AF_ECONET': 19, 'AF_LLC': 26, '__name__': '_socket', 'AF_NETROM': 6, 'SOCK_RDM': 4, 'AF_IRDA': 23, 'htons': &lt;built-in function htons&gt;, 'SOCK_RAW': 3, 'inet_ntoa': &lt;built-in function inet_ntoa&gt;, 'AF_NETBEUI': 13, 'AF_NETLINK': 16, 'TIPC_WAIT_FOREVER': -1, 'AF_UNIX': 1, 'TIPC_SUB_PORTS': 1, 'HCI_TIME_STAMP': 3, 'gethostbyname_ex': &lt;built-in function gethostbyname_ex&gt;, 'SO_RCVBUF': 8, 'AF_APPLETALK': 5, 'SOCK_SEQPACKET': 5, 'AF_DECnet': 12, 'PACKET_OUTGOING': 4, 'SO_SNDLOWAT': 19, 'TIPC_SRC_DROPPABLE':...(truncated), key=0x81ac5fb "SO_RCVTIMEO", item=20) at ../Objects/dictobject.c:2301 #4 0x080f6c98 in PyModule_AddObject (m=&lt;module at remote 0xb73cac8c&gt;, name= 0x81ac5fb "SO_RCVTIMEO", o=20) at ../Python/modsupport.c:615 #5 0x080f6d0b in PyModule_AddIntConstant (m=&lt;module at remote 0xb73cac8c&gt;, name=0x81ac5fb "SO_RCVTIMEO", value=20) at ../Python/modsupport.c:627 #6 0x081321fd in init_socket () at ../Modules/socketmodule.c:4708 Here, we never escape from lookdict_string. The key is not in the dictionary, but at this stage Python is trying to figure out that is the case, and cannot seem to exit because of the lack of a dummy entry. Furthermore, every single reproduced case has a dictionary with a suspicious looking violation of an invariant that I believe is communicated by the source of dictobject.c, with emphasis on the values of ma_fill, ma_used, and ma_mask, which never deviate in any reproduced case. It seems like no hash table should ever get this full, per the comments in the source: $3 = {ob_refcnt = 1, ob_type = 0x81c3aa0, ma_fill = 128, ma_used = 128, ma_mask = 127, ma_table = 0xa06b4a8, ma_lookup = 0x8088564 &lt;lookdict_string&gt;, ma_smalltable = {{me_hash = 0, me_key = 0x0, me_value = 0x0}, {me_hash = 1023053529, me_key = '__name__', me_value = '_socket'}, {me_hash = 1679430097, me_key = 'gethostbyname', me_value = &lt;built-in function gethostbyname&gt;}, {me_hash = 0, me_key = 0x0, me_value = 0x0}, {me_hash = 779452068, me_key = 'gethostbyname_ex', me_value = &lt;built-in function gethostbyname_ex&gt;}, {me_hash = -322108099, me_key = '__doc__', me_value = None}, {me_hash = -1649837379, me_key = 'gethostbyaddr', me_value = &lt;built-in function gethostbyaddr&gt;}, { me_hash = 1811348911, me_key = '__package__', me_value = None}}} The Python program that is running afoul this bug is using gevent, but the stack traces suggest that all gevent is doing at the time this crashes is importing "socket", and this is done at the very, very beginning of program execution. Finally, what's especially strange is that I had gone a very long time running this exact version of Python, libraries, and application quite frequently: it suddenly started cropping up a little while ago (maybe a few weeks). It could have been just coincidence, but if there are code paths in init_socket.c that may somehow be sensitive to the network somehow, this could have been related. I also have a limited suspicion that particularly unlucky OOM (these systems are configured in a way where malloc and friends will return NULL, i.e. no overcommit on Linux) could be related. Any guiding words, known bugs, or suspicions? </pre> Daniel Farina 2012-05-24T19:11:58 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.devel/132798 <pre> Mingw32CCompiler in cygwincompiler.py emits the symbol -mno-cygwin. This is used to make Cygwin's gcc behave as mingw. As of gcc 4.6 it is not recognized by the mingw gcc compiler itself, and causes as crash. It should be removed because it is never needed for mingw (in any version), only for cross-compilation to mingw from other gcc versions. Instead, those who use CygwinCCompiler or Linux GCC to "cross-compile" to plain Win32 can set -mno-cygwin manually. It also means -mcygwin should be removed from the output of CygwinCCompiler. I think... Sturla </pre> Sturla Molden 2012-05-24T12:03:00 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.devel/132790 <pre>I want to install python db2 package for Python but Im unable to install it. I have installed the easy_install and Im able to successfully import the easy_install. My easy_install location :c:/python27/lib/site-packages/ My db2 egg location c:/python27/ibm_db-1.0.5-py2.7-win32.egg How would my installation command look like in the shell, I tried this command and it gives me invalid error, C:\Python27\Scripts&gt;easy_install c:/python27/lib/site-packages/ibm_db-1.0.5-py2. 7-win32.egg error: Not a URL, existing file, or requirement spec: 'c:/python27/lib/site-pack ages/ibm_db-1.0.5-py2.7-win32.egg' </pre> PremAnand Lakshmanan 2012-05-23T23:00:11 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.devel/132784 <pre>Hi, as Antoine pointed out in the corresponding issue (http://bugs.python.org/issue14757#msg160870), measuring/assessing real-world performance of my patch would be interesting. I mentioned that I am not aware of any relevant Python 3 program/application to report numbers for (but guess that the speedups should persist.) Since nobody came up with an answer yet, I figured it would be a good idea to ask everybody on python-dev for suggestions... Regards, --stefan </pre> stefan brunthaler 2012-05-23T18:40:37 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.devel/132757 <pre>I've mentioned this in private to a few folks, with generally positive feedback. I am formally volunteering to be PEP czar for PEP 421, sys.implementation. If there are no objections in the next few days, I'll make it official. Cheers, -Barry </pre> Barry Warsaw 2012-05-21T21:24:09 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.devel/132737 <pre> I am currently working on porting our Linux tool chains to SuSe Enterprise Linux 11 service pack 2 (SLES11SP2). During this process, we noticed an issue due to a change in the sys.platform string. Previously, the string was "linux2" and it has now changed to "linux3". This seems to be due to a change in the kernel version. This causes the ossaudiodev and linuxaudiodev modules to be omitted from the build. I found the relevant code in setup.py: if platform == 'linux2': # Linux-specific modules exts.append( Extension('linuxaudiodev', ['linuxaudiodev.c']) ) else: missing.append('linuxaudiodev') if platform in ('linux2', 'freebsd4', 'freebsd5', 'freebsd6', 'freebsd7', 'freebsd8'): exts.append( Extension('ossaudiodev', ['ossaudiodev.c']) ) else: missing.append('ossaudiodev') Since neither of these account for "linux3", they are both omitted from the build. I can simply modify the code to include "linux3" so that these modules are built on the new platform. However, I wanted to check and see whether they are specifically being omitted for a reason or if the setup file just wasn't ported and tested against the new platform. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. Kris ________________________________ IMPORTANT: The information contained in this email and/or its attachments is confidential. 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Neither the sender, his or her employer nor any of their respective affiliates makes any warranties as to the completeness or accuracy of any of the information contained herein or that this message or any of its attachments is free of viruses. </pre> Wempa, Kristofer 2012-05-21T14:49:23 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.devel/132711 <pre>I have just reviewed PEP 420 (namespace packages) and sent Eric my detailed feedback; most of it is minor or requesting for examples and I'm sure he'll fix it to my satisfaction. Generally speaking the PEP is a beacon if clarity. But I stumbled about one feature that bothers me in its specification and through its lack of rationale. This is the section on Dynamic Path Computation: (http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0420/#dynamic-path-computation). The specification bothers me because it requires in-place modification of sys.path. Does this mean sys.path is no longer a plain list? I'm sure it's going to break things left and right (or at least things will be violating this requirement left and right); there has never been a similar requirement (unlike, e.g., sys.modules, which is relatively well-known for being cached in a C-level global variable). Worse, this apparently affects __path__ variables of namespace packages as well, which are now specified as an unspecified read-only iterable. (I can only guess that there is a connection between these two features -- the PEP doesn't mention one.) Again, I would be much happier with just a list. While I can imagine there being a use case for recomputing the various paths, I am much less sure that it is worth attempting to specify that this will happen *automatically* when sys.path is modified in a certain way. I'd be much happier if these constraints were struck and the recomputation had to be requested explicitly by calling some new function in sys. (That is, either a rock-solid rationale should be supplied, or the constraints should be removed.) </pre> Guido van Rossum 2012-05-21T01:33:03 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.devel/132694 <pre>Hi, as our shutil.rmtree() is vulnerable to symlink attacks (see &lt;http://bugs.python.org/issue4489&gt;) I’ve implemented a safe version using os.fwalk() and os.unlinkat() for Python 3.3. Now we face a problem I’d like a broad opinion on: rmtree has a callback hook called `onerror` that that gets called with amongst others the function that caused the error (see &lt;http://docs.python.org/dev/library/shutil.html#shutil.rmtree&gt;). Two of them differ in the new version: os.fwalk() is used instead of os.listdir() and os.unlinkat() instead of os.remove(). The safe version is used transparently if available, so this could potentially break code. Also it would mean that rmtree would behave differently on Linux &amp; OS X for example. I’ve been thinking to "fake" the function names, as they map pretty good anyway. I.e. call onerror with os.listdir if os.fwalk failed and with os.remove instead of os.unlinkat. That could also make sense if some kind soul writes a safe rmtree for Windows or OS X so the function works the same across all platforms. It's a bit ugly though, a cleaner way would be to start using well defined symbols, but that would break code for sure. Opinions? Cheers, Hynek _______________________________________________ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev&lt; at &gt;python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/python-python-dev%40m.gmane.org </pre> Hynek Schlawack 2012-05-20T11:58:38 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.devel/132687 <pre>PEP 3135 defines the new zero-argument form of super() as implicitly equivalent to super(__class__, &lt;first argument&gt;), and up until 3.2 has behaved accordingly: if you accessed __class__ from inside a method, you would receive a reference to the lexically containing class. In 3.3, that currently doesn't work: you get NameError instead (http://bugs.python.org/issue14857) While the 3.2 behaviour wasn't documented in the language reference, it's *definitely* documented in PEP 3135 (and my recent updates to the 3.3 version of the metaclass docs were written accordingly - that's how I discovered the problem) The error in the alpha releases appears to be a consequence of the attempt to fix a problem where the special treatment of __class__ meant that you couldn't properly set the __class__ attribute of the class itself in the class body (see http://bugs.python.org/issue12370). The fact that patch went in without causing a test failure means that this aspect of PEP 3135 has no explicit tests - it was only tested indirectly through the zero-argument super() construct. What I plan to do: 1. Revert the previous fix for #12370 2. Add tests for direct access to __class__ from methods 3. Create a *new* fix for #12370 that only affects the class scope, not the method bodies (this will be harder than the previous fix which affected the resolution of __class__ *everywhere* in the class body). Cheers, Nick. </pre> Nick Coghlan 2012-05-20T08:51:27 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.devel/132686 <pre>When writing the docs for types.new_class(), I discovered that the description of the class creation process in the language reference was not only hard to follow, it was actually *incorrect* when it came to describing the algorithm for determining the correct metaclass. I rewrote the offending section of the language reference to both describe the correct algorithm, and hopefully also to be easier to read. Once people have had a chance to review the changes in the 3.3 docs, I'll backport the update to 3.2. Previous docs: http://docs.python.org/py3k/reference/datamodel.html#customizing-class-creation Updated docs: http://docs.python.org/dev/reference/datamodel.html#customizing-class-creation Cheers, Nick. </pre> Nick Coghlan 2012-05-20T08:38:10 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.devel/132675 <pre>At what point should we cut over docs.python.org to point to the Python 3 documentation by default? Wouldn't this be an easy bit to flip in order to promote Python 3 more better? Cheers, -Barry </pre> Barry Warsaw 2012-05-18T18:24:18 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.devel/132674 <pre> ACTIVITY SUMMARY (2012-05-11 - 2012-05-18) Python tracker at http://bugs.python.org/ To view or respond to any of the issues listed below, click on the issue. Do NOT respond to this message. Issues counts and deltas: open 3432 (+14) closed 23196 (+53) total 26628 (+67) Open issues with patches: 1457 Issues opened (52) ================== #14784: Re-importing _warnings changes warnings.filters http://bugs.python.org/issue14784 opened by brett.cannon #14785: Add sys._debugmallocstats() http://bugs.python.org/issue14785 opened by dmalcolm #14787: pkgutil.walk_packages returns extra modules http://bugs.python.org/issue14787 opened by cjerdonek #14788: Pdb debugs itself after ^C and a breakpoint is set anywhere http://bugs.python.org/issue14788 opened by xdegaye #14789: after continue, Pdb stops at a line without a breakpoint http://bugs.python.org/issue14789 opened by xdegaye #14790: use packaging in setup.py http://bugs.python.org/issue14790 opened by pitrou #14791: setup.py only adds /prefix/lib, not /prefix/lib64 http://bugs.python.org/issue14791 opened by pitrou #14792: setting a bp on current function, Pdb stops at next line altho http://bugs.python.org/issue14792 opened by xdegaye #14794: slice.indices raises OverflowError http://bugs.python.org/issue14794 opened by Paul.Upchurch #14795: Pdb incorrectly handles a method breakpoint when module not im http://bugs.python.org/issue14795 opened by xdegaye #14796: Calendar module test coverage improved http://bugs.python.org/issue14796 opened by Oleg.Plakhotnyuk #14797: Deprecate imp.find_module()/load_module() http://bugs.python.org/issue14797 opened by brett.cannon #14798: pyclbr raises KeyError when the prefix of a dotted name is not http://bugs.python.org/issue14798 opened by xdegaye #14799: Tkinter ttk tests hang on linux http://bugs.python.org/issue14799 opened by asvetlov #14802: Python fails to compile with VC11 ARM configuration http://bugs.python.org/issue14802 opened by Minmin.Gong #14803: Add feature to allow code execution prior to __main__ invocati http://bugs.python.org/issue14803 opened by ncoghlan #14804: Wrong defaults args notation in docs http://bugs.python.org/issue14804 opened by hynek #14805: Support display of both __cause__ and __context__ http://bugs.python.org/issue14805 opened by ncoghlan #14807: Move tarfile.filemode() into stat module http://bugs.python.org/issue14807 opened by giampaolo.rodola #14808: Pdb does not stop at a breakpoint set on the line of a functio http://bugs.python.org/issue14808 opened by xdegaye #14810: Bug in tarfile http://bugs.python.org/issue14810 opened by hwm #14811: decoding_fgets() truncates long lines and fails with a SyntaxE http://bugs.python.org/issue14811 opened by v+python #14812: Change file associations to not be a default installer feature http://bugs.python.org/issue14812 opened by brian.curtin #14813: Can't build under VS2008 anymore http://bugs.python.org/issue14813 opened by pitrou #14814: Implement PEP 3144 (the ipaddress module) http://bugs.python.org/issue14814 opened by ncoghlan #14815: random_seed uses only 32-bits of hash on Win64 http://bugs.python.org/issue14815 opened by loewis #14817: pkgutil.extend_path has no tests http://bugs.python.org/issue14817 opened by eric.smith #14818: C implementation of ElementTree: Some functions should support http://bugs.python.org/issue14818 opened by cmn #14821: Ctypes extension module builds as _ctypes_test.pyd http://bugs.python.org/issue14821 opened by jason.coombs #14822: Build unusable when compiled for Win 64-bit release http://bugs.python.org/issue14822 opened by jason.coombs #14824: reprlib documentation references string module http://bugs.python.org/issue14824 opened by magcius #14826: urllib2.urlopen fails to load URL http://bugs.python.org/issue14826 opened by wichert #14830: pysetup fails on non-ascii filenames http://bugs.python.org/issue14830 opened by tarek #14831: make r argument on itertools.combinations() optional http://bugs.python.org/issue14831 opened by djc #14833: Copyright date in footer of /pypi says 2011 http://bugs.python.org/issue14833 opened by antlong #14834: A list of broken links on the python.org website http://bugs.python.org/issue14834 opened by antlong #14835: plistlib: output empty elements correctly http://bugs.python.org/issue14835 opened by ssm #14836: Add next(iter(o)) to set.pop, dict.popitem entries. http://bugs.python.org/issue14836 opened by terry.reedy #14837: Better SSL errors http://bugs.python.org/issue14837 opened by pitrou #14838: IDLE Will not load on reinstall http://bugs.python.org/issue14838 opened by BugReporter #14840: Tutorial: Add a bit on the difference between tuples and lists http://bugs.python.org/issue14840 opened by zach.ware #14841: os.get_terminal_size() should check stdin as a fallback http://bugs.python.org/issue14841 opened by Arfrever #14842: Link to time.time() in the docs of time.localtime() is wrong http://bugs.python.org/issue14842 opened by petri.lehtinen #14843: support define_macros / undef_macros in setup.cfg http://bugs.python.org/issue14843 opened by dholth #14844: netrc does not handle accentuated characters http://bugs.python.org/issue14844 opened by drzraf #14845: list(&lt;generator expression&gt;) != [&lt;list comprehension&gt;] http://bugs.python.org/issue14845 opened by Peter.Norvig #14846: Change in error when sys.path contains a nonexistent folder (i http://bugs.python.org/issue14846 opened by takluyver #14847: AttributeError: NoneType has no attribute 'utf_8_decode' http://bugs.python.org/issue14847 opened by jason.coombs #14848: os.rename should not be used http://bugs.python.org/issue14848 opened by nvetoshkin #14849: C implementation of ElementTree: Inheriting from Element break http://bugs.python.org/issue14849 opened by cmn #14850: The inconsistency of codecs.charmap_decode http://bugs.python.org/issue14850 opened by storchaka #1635217: Warn against using requires/provides/obsoletes in setup.py http://bugs.python.org/issue1635217 reopened by techtonik Most recent 15 issues with no replies (15) ========================================== #14850: The inconsistency of codecs.charmap_decode http://bugs.python.org/issue14850 #14849: C implementation of ElementTree: Inheriting from Element break http://bugs.python.org/issue14849 #14844: netrc does not handle accentuated characters http://bugs.python.org/issue14844 #14843: support define_macros / undef_macros in setup.cfg http://bugs.python.org/issue14843 #14842: Link to time.time() in the docs of time.localtime() is wrong http://bugs.python.org/issue14842 #14841: os.get_terminal_size() should check stdin as a fallback http://bugs.python.org/issue14841 #14837: Better SSL errors http://bugs.python.org/issue14837 #14835: plistlib: output empty elements correctly http://bugs.python.org/issue14835 #14833: Copyright date in footer of /pypi says 2011 http://bugs.python.org/issue14833 #14830: pysetup fails on non-ascii filenames http://bugs.python.org/issue14830 #14814: Implement PEP 3144 (the ipaddress module) http://bugs.python.org/issue14814 #14812: Change file associations to not be a default installer feature http://bugs.python.org/issue14812 #14808: Pdb does not stop at a breakpoint set on the line of a functio http://bugs.python.org/issue14808 #14805: Support display of both __cause__ and __context__ http://bugs.python.org/issue14805 #14795: Pdb incorrectly handles a method breakpoint when module not im http://bugs.python.org/issue14795 Most recent 15 issues waiting for review (15) ============================================= #14840: Tutorial: Add a bit on the difference between tuples and lists http://bugs.python.org/issue14840 #14837: Better SSL errors http://bugs.python.org/issue14837 #14836: Add next(iter(o)) to set.pop, dict.popitem entries. http://bugs.python.org/issue14836 #14835: plistlib: output empty elements correctly http://bugs.python.org/issue14835 #14824: reprlib documentation references string module http://bugs.python.org/issue14824 #14818: C implementation of ElementTree: Some functions should support http://bugs.python.org/issue14818 #14813: Can't build under VS2008 anymore http://bugs.python.org/issue14813 #14811: decoding_fgets() truncates long lines and fails with a SyntaxE http://bugs.python.org/issue14811 #14808: Pdb does not stop at a breakpoint set on the line of a functio http://bugs.python.org/issue14808 #14807: Move tarfile.filemode() into stat module http://bugs.python.org/issue14807 #14804: Wrong defaults args notation in docs http://bugs.python.org/issue14804 #14798: pyclbr raises KeyError when the prefix of a dotted name is not http://bugs.python.org/issue14798 #14796: Calendar module test coverage improved http://bugs.python.org/issue14796 #14795: Pdb incorrectly handles a method breakpoint when module not im http://bugs.python.org/issue14795 #14792: setting a bp on current function, Pdb stops at next line altho http://bugs.python.org/issue14792 Top 10 most discussed issues (10) ================================= #14813: Can't build under VS2008 anymore http://bugs.python.org/issue14813 26 msgs #13210: Support Visual Studio 2010 http://bugs.python.org/issue13210 18 msgs #14315: zipfile.ZipFile() unable to open zip File http://bugs.python.org/issue14315 13 msgs #8271: str.decode('utf8', 'replace') -- conformance with Unicode 5.2. http://bugs.python.org/issue8271 12 msgs #14780: urllib.request could use the default CA store http://bugs.python.org/issue14780 12 msgs #11959: smtpd cannot be used without affecting global state http://bugs.python.org/issue11959 11 msgs #14807: Move tarfile.filemode() into stat module http://bugs.python.org/issue14807 11 msgs #14811: decoding_fgets() truncates long lines and fails with a SyntaxE http://bugs.python.org/issue14811 11 msgs #12029: Catching virtual subclasses in except clauses http://bugs.python.org/issue12029 10 msgs #14674: Add link to RFC 4627 from json documentation http://bugs.python.org/issue14674 10 msgs Issues closed (49) ================== #5730: setdefault speedup http://bugs.python.org/issue5730 closed by pitrou #6302: Add decode_header_as_string method to email.utils http://bugs.python.org/issue6302 closed by r.david.murray #6544: Fix refleak in kqueue implementation http://bugs.python.org/issue6544 closed by pitrou #8098: PyImport_ImportModuleNoBlock() may solve problems but causes o http://bugs.python.org/issue8098 closed by pitrou #8330: Failures seen in test_gdb on buildbots http://bugs.python.org/issue8330 closed by dmalcolm #9120: Reduce pickle size for an empty set http://bugs.python.org/issue9120 closed by loewis #9251: Test for the import lock http://bugs.python.org/issue9251 closed by pitrou #9260: A finer grained import lock http://bugs.python.org/issue9260 closed by pitrou #11051: Improve Python 3.3 startup time http://bugs.python.org/issue11051 closed by pitrou #12541: Accepting Badly formed headers in urllib HTTPBasicAuth http://bugs.python.org/issue12541 closed by orsenthil #13031: small speed-up for tarfile.py when unzipping tarballs http://bugs.python.org/issue13031 closed by rosslagerwall #14082: shutil doesn't copy extended attributes http://bugs.python.org/issue14082 closed by pitrou #14245: float rounding examples in FAQ are outdated http://bugs.python.org/issue14245 closed by mark.dickinson #14366: Supporting lzma compression in zip files http://bugs.python.org/issue14366 closed by loewis #14405: Some "Other Resources" in the sidebar are hopelessly out of da http://bugs.python.org/issue14405 closed by ezio.melotti #14417: dict RuntimeError workaround http://bugs.python.org/issue14417 closed by pitrou #14419: Faster ascii decoding http://bugs.python.org/issue14419 closed by pitrou #14543: Upgrade OpenSSL on Windows to 0.9.8u http://bugs.python.org/issue14543 closed by loewis #14584: Add gzip support to xmlrpc.server http://bugs.python.org/issue14584 closed by rosslagerwall #14624: Faster utf-16 decoder http://bugs.python.org/issue14624 closed by pitrou #14682: Backport missing errnos to 2.7 http://bugs.python.org/issue14682 closed by hynek #14692: json.loads parse_constant callback not working anymore http://bugs.python.org/issue14692 closed by hynek #14702: os.makedirs breaks under autofs directories http://bugs.python.org/issue14702 closed by hynek #14732: PEP 3121 Refactoring applied to _csv module http://bugs.python.org/issue14732 closed by pitrou #14766: Non-naive time comparison throws naive time error http://bugs.python.org/issue14766 closed by r.david.murray #14770: Minor documentation fixes http://bugs.python.org/issue14770 closed by ezio.melotti #14773: fwalk breaks on dangling symlinks http://bugs.python.org/issue14773 closed by hynek #14777: Tkinter clipboard_get() decodes characters incorrectly http://bugs.python.org/issue14777 closed by ned.deily #14779: test_buffer fails on OS X universal 64-/32-bit builds http://bugs.python.org/issue14779 closed by skrah #14781: Default to year 1 in strptime if year 0 has been specified http://bugs.python.org/issue14781 closed by r.david.murray #14786: htmlparser with tag br http://bugs.python.org/issue14786 closed by ezio.melotti #14793: broken grammar in Built-in Types doc http://bugs.python.org/issue14793 closed by sandro.tosi #14800: stat.py constant comments + docstrings http://bugs.python.org/issue14800 closed by giampaolo.rodola #14801: ssize_t where size_t expected http://bugs.python.org/issue14801 closed by pitrou #14806: re.match does not match word '{' http://bugs.python.org/issue14806 closed by ezio.melotti #14809: Add HTTP status codes introduced by RFC 6585 http://bugs.python.org/issue14809 closed by hynek #14816: compilation failed on Ubuntu shared buildbot http://bugs.python.org/issue14816 closed by pitrou #14819: Add `assertIsSubclass` and `assertNotIsSubclass` to `unittest. http://bugs.python.org/issue14819 closed by ezio.melotti #14820: socket._decref_socketios and close http://bugs.python.org/issue14820 closed by giampaolo.rodola #14823: Simplify threading.Lock.acquire() description http://bugs.python.org/issue14823 closed by r.david.murray #14825: Interactive Shell vs Executed code http://bugs.python.org/issue14825 closed by mark.dickinson #14827: IDLE crash when typing ^ character on Mac OS X http://bugs.python.org/issue14827 closed by JPEC #14828: itertools.groupby not working as expected http://bugs.python.org/issue14828 closed by petri.lehtinen #14829: test_bisect failure under 64-bit Windows http://bugs.python.org/issue14829 closed by pitrou #14832: unittest's assertItemsEqual() method gives wrong order in erro http://bugs.python.org/issue14832 closed by r.david.murray #14839: xml.sax.make_parser() returns "No parsers found" http://bugs.python.org/issue14839 closed by Arfrever #1479611: speed up function calls http://bugs.python.org/issue1479611 closed by pitrou #504152: rfc822 long header continuation broken http://bugs.python.org/issue504152 closed by r.david.murray #1440472: email.Generator is not idempotent http://bugs.python.org/issue1440472 closed by r.david.murray </pre> Python tracker 2012-05-18T16:07:12 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.devel/132644 <pre> Hello all, We still need 64-bit Windows buildbots to test for regressions. Otherwise we might let regressions slip through, since few people seem to run the test suite under Windows at home. Regards Antoine. </pre> Antoine Pitrou 2012-05-16T12:44:56 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.devel/132632 <pre>Hi python-dev, these ideas/questions comes out of the Cython and NumPy developer lists. What we want is a way to communicate things on the C level about the extension type instances we pass around. The solution today is often to rely on PyObject_TypeCheck. For instance, hundreds of handcrafted C extensions rely on the internal structure of NumPy arrays, and Cython will check whether objects are instances of a Cython class or not. However, this creates one-to-many situations; only one implementor of an object API/ABI, but many consumers. What we would like is multiple implementors and multiple consumers of mutually agreed-upon standards. We essentially want more duck typing on the C level. A similar situation was PEP 3118. But there's many more such things one might want to communicate at the C level, many of which are very domain-specific and not suitable for a PEP at all. Also PEPs don't backport well to older versions of Python. What we *think* we would like (but we want other suggestions!) is an arbitrarily extensible type object, without tying this into the type hierarchy. Say you have typedef struct { unsigned long extension_id; void *data; } PyTypeObjectExtensionEntry; and then a type object can (somehow!) point to an array of these. The array is linearly scanned by consumers for IDs they recognize (most types would only have one or two entries). Cython could then get a reserved ID space to communicate whatever it wants, NumPy another one, and there could be "unofficial PEPs" where two or more projects get together to draft a spec for a particular type extension ID without having to bother python-dev about it. And, we want this to somehow work with existing Python; we still support users on Python 2.4. Options we've thought of so far: a) Use dicts and capsules to get information across. But performance-wise the dict lookup is not an option for what we want to use this for in Cython. b) Implement a metaclass which extends PyTypeObject in this way. However, that means a common runtime dependency for libraries that want to use this scheme, which is a big disadvantage to us. Today, Cython doesn't ship a runtime library but only creates standalone compileable C files, and there's no dependency from NumPy on Cython or the other way around. c) Hijack a free bit in tp_flags (22?) which we use to indicate that the PyTypeObject struct is immediately followed by a pointer to such an array. The final approach is drafted in more detail at http://wiki.cython.org/enhancements/cep1001 . To us that looks very attractive both for the speed and for the lack of runtime dependencies, and it seems like it should work in existing versions of Python. But do please feel free to tell us we are misguided. Hijacking a flag bit certainly feels dirty. Examples of how this would be used: - In Cython, we'd like to use this to annotate callable objects that happen to wrap a C function with their corresponding C function pointers. That way, callables that wrap a C function could be "unboxed", so that Cython could "cast" the Python object "scipy.special.gamma" to a function pointer at runtime and speed up the call with an order of magnitude. SciPy and Cython just needs to agree on a spec. - Lots of C extensions rely on using PyObject_TypeCheck (or even do an exact check) before calling the NumPy C API with PyArrayObject* arguments. This means that new features all have to go into NumPy; it is rather difficult to create new experimental array libraries. Extensible PyTypeObject would open up the way for other experimental array libraries; NumPy could make the standards, but others implement them (without getting NumPy as a runtime dependency, which is the consequence of subclassing). Of course, porting over the hundreds (thousands?) of extensions relying on the NumPy C API is a lot of work, but we can at least get started... Ideas? Dag Sverre Seljebotn </pre> Dag Sverre Seljebotn 2012-05-16T07:44:10 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.devel/132631 <pre>Hi, by chance I looked into the impl of inspect.getmembers today and was slightly shocked: def getmembers(object, predicate=None): """Return all members of an object as (name, value) pairs sorted by name. Optionally, only return members that satisfy a given predicate.""" results = [] for key in dir(object): According to http://docs.python.org/library/functions.html """ Note Because dir() is supplied primarily as a convenience for use at an interactive prompt, it tries to supply an interesting set of names more than it tries to supply a rigorously or consistently defined set of names, and its detailed behavior may change across releases. For example, metaclass attributes are not in the result list when the argument is a class. """ This is a bit inconsistent, and I think the standard lib should be the best example for clean code that is consistent with the docs. Is the usage of dir() correct in this context or is the doc right? It would be nice to add a sentence of clarification if the use of dir() is in fact the correct way to implement inspect. cheers - chris </pre> Christian Tismer 2012-05-15T20:13:04 Search the mailing list at Gmane query http://search.gmane.org/?group=$group=gmane.comp.python.devel