http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.comp.openoffice.devel.marketing hourly 1 1901-01-01T00:00+00:00 http://gmane.org/img/gmane-25t.png http://gmane.org http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.openoffice.devel.marketing/32199 <pre> Antivirus email server has detected illegal content. From: blaise&lt; at &gt;drayer.ch To: dev&lt; at &gt;marketing.openoffice.org Subject: Good day Action: DELETED AV Posta Romana 2012 === Protejeaza mediul inconjurator! Nu tipari acest email, decat daca este absolut necesar! </pre> blaise< at >drayer.ch 2012-01-03T11:32:42 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.openoffice.devel.marketing/32197 <pre>All, The new Apache OpenOffice is ready for you. We cannot and probably do not want to replicate what we have had here, but we can, I believe, take the best of it and move on. There is tremendous value in what we—no, you—have accomplished, and I have no interest, and I doubt you do, too, in losing it. Actually, I see 2012 as a banner year of opportunity. What needs to be done, then, i you want to contribute, and I do encourage that. * Sign up with the Apache site * Get started with discussing the future of: </pre> Louis Suárez-Potts 2011-12-13T06:21:03 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.openoffice.devel.marketing/32196 <pre>Please read this note in its entirety. It contains important information related to this mailing list, its migration to the Apache Software Foundation, and the steps you must take to ensure continuous access to the list. As you may have heard, Oracle contributed the OpenOffice.org (OOo) code to Apache in June. All new projects at Apache start in the "Incubator", a special part of Apache where new projects ("Podlings") and their communities are given special attention by Apache "mentors" as they learn about Apache, ensure that the source code meets Apache's license requirements, and work toward their initial Apache release. In parallel with the coding efforts needed before we can publish Apache OpenOffice.org 3.4.0, the Apache OpenOffice.org community, working with the Apache Infrastructure team, is migrating the many legacy OOo websites and other online services formerly hosted by Sun/Oracle onto Apache servers. This has been a huge effort and we are showing good progress in many areas. You can read more about the current status of the migration effort on this wiki page: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/OpenOffice.org+Mig ration+Status Among the services hosted by Oracle on the legacy OOo servers are over 300 mailing lists, including the mailing list you are reading now. In order to preserve your subscription to the list, you will need to resubscribe to the new list address, per the following instructions: 1. Send an email to ooo-marketing-subscribe&lt; at &gt;incubator.apache.org . This should be done from the email account where you want to receive the list messages. 2. 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Archives of the new mailing lists will be available here: http://markmail.org/search/+list:org.apache.incubator.ooo-marketing Regards, - The Apache OpenOffice.org (Incubating) Project Management Committee </pre> robweir< at >apache.org 2011-10-26T12:49:01 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.openoffice.devel.marketing/32183 <pre> Antivirus email server has detected illegal content. From: blaise&lt; at &gt;drayer.ch To: dev&lt; at &gt;marketing.openoffice.org Subject: Hello Action: DELETED AV Posta Romana 2011 === Protejeaza mediul inconjurator! Nu tipari acest email, decat daca este absolut necesar! </pre> blaise< at >drayer.ch 2011-08-02T11:33:30 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.openoffice.devel.marketing/32182 <pre>LinkedIn ------------ I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn. - Andrea Massimo Andrea Massimo Chiumenti Owner at Wings Tech Milan Area, Italy Confirm that you know Andrea Massimo Chiumenti https://www.linkedin.com/e/-owxrl-gov4gtik-3f/isd/3192088910/p1YLJFrs/ </pre> Andrea Massimo Chiumenti 2011-06-13T07:49:16 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.openoffice.devel.marketing/32181 <pre>*&lt; at &gt;EuSpRIG &lt;http://twitter.com/EuSpRIG&gt;*: &lt; at &gt;openofficeorg do you think you might send someone to the &lt; at &gt;EuSpRIG annual conference? We would love your input http://eusprig.org/2011_draft_programme.pdf June 10, 2011 at 02:28 PM </pre> Alexandro Colorado 2011-06-10T22:23:08 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.openoffice.devel.marketing/32174 <pre>All, I sit here in my rather warm apartment in Toronto and read the ASF list, the OOo lists, the so many other lists I subscribe to and all the other texts, in so many other languages; and I write letters, blog posts, and so on. (Even the CC minutes, to come; urgent matters took precedence.) And then I came across the wonderful poem, How do I love thee? by Elizabeth Barrett Browning, and I thought: This is totally inappropriate for this list. And then I thought of one—really one of my favourites—by Wallace Stevens, that is to me always appropriate, a source of discussion, controversy, beauty.…. Anecdote of the Jar I placed a jar in Tennessee, And round it was, upon a hill. It made the slovenly wilderness Surround that hill. The wilderness rose up to it, And sprawled around, no longer wild. The jar was round upon the ground And tall and of a port in air. It took dominion every where. The jar was gray and bare. It did not give of bird or bush, -- Louis Suarez-Potts, PhD Community Manager OpenOffice.org </pre> Louis Suarez-Potts 2011-06-08T20:58:15 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.openoffice.devel.marketing/32168 <pre>Hi everyone, I have to resign as OOo Marketing Project Lead because a new professional engagement I took several weeks ago will not leave me with enough time to appropriately care about my duties. Especially the stony road we're having ahead with the transition of the project to the Apache Software Foundation will require double efforts, hence it seems to be the right moment to make this cut. I will continue to contribute to OOo as time allows it and also continuing to moderate the mailing lists of the MP. Best regards, Peter </pre> Peter Junge 2011-06-06T16:07:57 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.openoffice.devel.marketing/32167 <pre>This is the company http://www.tightropeinteractive.com/ http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&amp;entry=85298190 </pre> WorldLabel.com 2011-06-06T12:55:56 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.openoffice.devel.marketing/32159 <pre>Hi Does anyone know who is in charge of the funds at Team Openoffice.org? I sent funds for a extension contest and then a ALA exhibition, both did not happen. I would like the funds returned. At somepoint when we know the exact direction OOo is going it, would be happy to help sponsor events again. Russell </pre> WorldLabel.com 2011-06-02T14:42:46 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.openoffice.devel.marketing/32156 <pre>Well said! On Thu 02/06/11 10:52 , Simon Brouwer simon.oo.o&lt; at &gt;xs4all.nl sent: </pre> Gianvittorio 2011-06-02T10:02:38 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.openoffice.devel.marketing/32149 <pre>See the thread titled "OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal" post on June 1 by Luke Kowalski of Oracle: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201106.mbox/threa d --------------------------------------- Abstract OpenOffice.org is comprised of (6) personal productivity applications: word processor, spreadsheet, presentation graphics, drawing, equation editor, and database. OpenOffice.org supports Windows, Solaris, Linux and Macintosh operation systems. OpenOffice.org is localized, supporting over 110 languages worldwide. Proposal OpenOffice.org will be contributed to Apache Software Foundation by Oracle Corporation in compliance with ASF licensing and governance. This contribution will form the basis of the new OpenOffice project at Apache. Background OpenOffice.org was launched as an open source project by Sun Microsystems in June 2000. OpenOffice.org was originally developed by Star Division which was acquired by Sun in 1999. OpenOffice.org is the leading alternative to MS-Office available as an open source licensed offering. The source is written in C++ and delivers language-neutral and scriptable functionality. This source technology introduces the next-stage architecture, allowing use of the suite elements as separate applications or as embedded components in other applications. Numerous other features are also present including XML-based file formats based on the vendor-neutral OpenDocument Format (ODF) standard from OASIS and other resources. Rationale OpenOffice.org core development would continue at Apache following the contribution by Oracle, in accordance with Apache bylaws and its usual open development processes. Both Oracle and ASF agree that the OpenOffice.org development community, previously fragmented, would re-unite under ASF to ensure a stable and long term future for OpenOffice.org. ASF would enable corporate, non-profit, and volunteer stakeholders to contribute code in a collaborative fashion. Supporting tooling projects will accompany the OpenOffice.org contribution, providing APIs for extending and customizing OpenOffice.org. Both OpenOffice.org and the related tooling projects support the OASIS Open Document Format, and will attract an ecosystem of developers, ISVs and Systems Integrators. ODF ensures the users of OpenOffice.org and related solutions will own their document data, and be free to choose the application or solution that best meets their requirements. The OpenOffice.org implementation will serve as a reference implementation of the Open Document Format standard. Current Status This is a new project. Meritocracy The initial developers are very familiar with open source development, both at Apache and elsewhere. Apache was chosen specifically because Oracle as contributor, and IBM as Sponsor and the initial developers want to encourage this style of development for the project. A diverse developer community is regarded as necessary for a healthy, stable, long term OpenOffice.org project. Community OpenOffice.org. seeks to further encourage developer and user communities during incubation, beyond the existing developers currently working on the project. Core Developers The initial set of committers include people from the community of OpenOffice.org Technology projects. We have varying degrees of experience with Apache-style open source development, ranging from none to ASF Members. Alignment The developers of OpenOffice.org will want to work with the Apache Software Foundation specifically because Apache has proven to provide a strong foundation and set of practices for developing standards-based infrastructure and related components. Additionally, the project may evolve to support cloud and mobile platforms from its starting point of desktop operating systems. Known Risks Orphaned products OpenOffice.org is a mature project, with a set of APIs. It is continuing to evolve. Inexperience with Open Source The initial developers include long-time open source developers, including Apache Members. Homogenous Developers OpenOffice.org for many years was managed by Sun, who provided the majority of its engineering resources as well as its direction. Moving this project to Apache will enable a new start and provide a broad framework. Reliance on Salaried Developers The initial group of developers will be employed by IBM, Linux distribution companies, and likely public sector agencies. Localization resources are expected to gravitate to the new project, as well. Ensuring the long term stability of OpenOffice.org is a major reason for establishing the project at Apache. Relationships with Other Apache Products POI potentially, if POI extends to support ODF, the default file format of OpenOffice.org. A Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand We believe in the processes, systems, and framework Apache has put in place. Documentation Currently available on openoffice.org and archived. Migration TBD. Initial Source The initial source will consist of a collection of OpenOffice.org files. External Dependencies None at this time Required Resources Developer and user mailing lists A subversion repository A JIRA issue tracker Download site Oracle will assist in the transition and migration from OpenOffice.org. All of the content has already been archived and is ready for the ASF infrastructure group to act on. Initial Committers Andrew Rist ---Oracle Rob Weir --- IBM Sponsors Sam Ruby, Geir Magnusson, Sally Khudairi Champion Sam Ruby, Apache Foundation Nominated Mentors Jim Jagielski --Apache Sponsoring Entity The Apache Incubator </pre> Allen Pulsifer 2011-06-01T18:11:34 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.openoffice.devel.marketing/32148 <pre>All, Those in this and other OOo projects will be interested to track discussions on OOo. Apache is justly famous for its openness and transparency. Here's the relevant page: http://incubator.apache.org/ -louis-- ----------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send email to dev-unsubscribe&lt; at &gt;marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sympa&lt; at &gt;marketing.openoffice.org with Subject: help </pre> Louis Suarez-Potts 2011-06-01T18:00:15 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.openoffice.devel.marketing/32145 <pre>Hi anyone, have you already been reading the news today: http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/statements-on-openofficeorg-contribution-to-apache-nasdaq-orcl-1521400.htm No comments from my side so far, as I found it right before getting to bed. Best regards, Peter </pre> Peter Junge 2011-06-01T15:56:16 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.openoffice.devel.marketing/32143 <pre>Hi, For the record, the OpenOffice.org Education Project will be represented à LibreSoftware Meeting Strasbourg 2011 : http://2011.rmll.info/Developpement-du-module-d-annotation-dans- Office-Impress-Development-of-the-annotation-module-in Thanks to the students frome Ecole Centrale Nantes. ... and see you ! Eric Bachard </pre> eric b 2011-05-30T06:02:37 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.openoffice.devel.marketing/32138 <pre>One thing that keeps escaping me relates to my work connection to the former lead of Marketing, Florian Effenberger: He and I now work together, as associates/partners for a marketing, community development (and other good stuff) company. We do a fairly good job of keeping our interests separate, and we have also sought to maintain cordial and even friendly relations since last year. I should also add that in no direct way do I benefit from my efforts now on behalf of OOo or ODF. (I don't know if he does.) I suppose all benefit from proving the resilience and reliability of OOo source and the ODF. And a tight affiliation with such a powerful force is hardly to be dismissed. But it is not central by any means to my current work the new company, nor is it at all related to my interests in maintaining friendly relations with Florian and others involved with TDF, LO. (For instance, Charles Schulz and I sit on the same Oasis TCs related to the ODF, where I represent OpenOffice.org.) -louis </pre> Louis Suárez-Potts 2011-05-23T12:25:39 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.openoffice.devel.marketing/32137 <pre>of the question such a discussion options. Such a understand our options as a really healthy approaches to the carefully, as when the context First of all, the conversation we are having is about the future of OpenOffice.org development. Florian Effenberger wrote to say that he thinks the best place for OpenOffice.org development is within The Document Foundation. That is a conversation about OpenOffice.org and it is a perfectly valid proposal, and in fact, the best and only proposal we have seen so far. Second, the OpenOffice.org name is owned and controlled by Oracle. Any further software releases under the OpenOffice.org name, and any further development of the OpenOffice.org website will only happen with Oracle's agreement. It appears however that there is no one here representing Oracle. Oracle has basically "taken its ball and gone home". Without representation from Oracle, we can conversate all we want, but it will go nowhere. Is there a contact person at Oracle who is authorized and willing to speak and act on behalf of Oracle, and who can convey to us what Oracle wants and is willing to agree to regarding the continued development and release of software under the OpenOffice.org name? Allen </pre> Allen Pulsifer 2011-05-27T11:51:36 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.openoffice.devel.marketing/32136 <pre>Resent with the right address, sorry again for the moderators of the list. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [marketing-dev] Re: Why TDF should be the place for one united Community Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 08:35:50 +0300 From: Sophie Gautier &lt;gautier.sophie&lt; at &gt;gmail.com&gt; To: dev&lt; at &gt;marketing.openoffice.org Hi Khirano, On 27/05/2011 01:50, Kazunari Hirano wrote: The Document Foundation is the community, whatever the product. LibreOffice is the product currently developed by the foundation but that could be xyz products owned or hosted by the Foundation. So there is nothing to change in the wording, the roots are still the OpenOffice.org project, the product TDF currently is LibreOffice. See it as the Mozilla Foundation if you want, you belong to the Mozilla Foundation whatever you work on Firefox, Drumbeat, SUMO, etc, it's only one community. Kind regards Sophie </pre> Sophie 2011-05-27T05:52:43 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.openoffice.devel.marketing/32108 <pre>Hello Louis, As a member of the community, I'm trying to understand the situation here, especially the situation from your point of view. The Document Foundation has made it clear that if there are no "negotiations" with OpenOffice.org, they will continue to develop and release the codebase under the LibreOffice name. At this point in time, who is continuing to participate in the OpenOffice.org community? Having been appointed to your position by Sun (without an election by the Community), and then terminated by Oracle, do you feel that you are still qualified to speak for the OpenOffice.org Community, and if so, in what way and on what basis? Is Oracle still participating in the OpenOffice.org community, and if so, in what way? Who is speaking for Oracle? What does OpenOffice.org have to contribute at this point to the open source community? I understand that Oracle now owns the trademark to "OpenOffice.org" and the copyright to the codebase. What does OpenOffice.org have? You stated that "...a lot is at stake beyond our narrow concerns." Who is the "our" in that statement, what do you see being "our narrow concerns", and what do you see being at stake "beyond our narrow concerns"? If OpenOffice.org and The Document Foundation "negotiate", what do you see as the best possible outcome? What other possible outcomes can you foresee that are better than the current direction? If OpenOffice.org and The Document Foundation "negotiate" and there is no agreement, what will OpenOffice.org do? Will there be any more software development or releases? Who will do that work? Thank you, Allen </pre> Allen Pulsifer 2011-05-25T15:34:09 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.openoffice.devel.marketing/32105 <pre>Guys, I am sure that a discussion in "neutral territory" can still mean a very transparent and productive conversation too. Louis, Which forum did you have in mind? Gian On Wed 25/05/11 16:55 , Louis Suarez-Potts lsuarezpotts&lt; at &gt;gmail.com sent: sympa&lt; at &gt;marketing.openoffice.org&gt; with Subject: help </pre> Gianvittorio 2011-05-25T15:08:05 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.openoffice.devel.marketing/32100 <pre>Hello everyone, I have not been subscribed to this list for months, but due to Louis' recent Cc, I was made aware of the discussion going on -- so, as a representant of TDF, but also as someone for whom personally the community means a lot, let me say a few words. I indeed see the current situation as an ideal basis for uniting things. The diversity the Community is in now doesn't help anyone. If you now think we, TDF, are happy and get satisfaction out of the current situation, you are terribly wrong. Even if we expected something like that to happen, our intention was to safeguard the project from this eventuality, not to profit from it. We all have similar goals: a free office suite, available to everyone. So let's not discuss about the past, about what has happened and about the reasons that led to this, but rather focus on the future. I want to openly repeat our invitation to everyone to join The Document Foundation and the LibreOffice Community. Why do I think that we are the right place to continue the work? In yesterday's blog post, we summed up where we stand, and reading it will help to understand the current situation: http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2011/05/24/updates-on-the-foundation/ 1. We are vendor neutral. I am sorry that I have to object to Louis' statement of us being a proxy for Microsoft -- nothing can be further from the truth. I must confess, that by statements like these, I feel even personally insulted. I spend many hours per day on a pure volunteer basis, and if anyone can point on those of my doings that are proxying for Microsoft, I would be interested to hear them. Otherwise, I'll ask to stop spreading those wrong assumptions -- as they are simply that: wrong. 2. We have a strong legal backing, not only by the German nonprofit "Freies Office Deutschland e.V.", but also by the Software in the Public Interest (SPI), and we are on track with establishing the Foundation as a legal entity. Even right now, we have all options needed for dealing with legal aspects, accepting and spending money. We already can and do maintain trademarks, brands and other assets. 3. We have an independent infrastructure that works and is not controlled by nor depends on a single entity. In addition, as we are not using a fixed web framework, we are very flexible in what we do. 4. We have not only gained a lot of momentum, but also a strong developer base of more than 200 volunteers, amongst them 40 who contribute on a very regular basis. Yes, of course, any contribution corporations with paid developers do are highly welcome and help a lot </pre> Florian Effenberger 2011-05-25T12:03:26 Search the mailing list at Gmane query http://search.gmane.org/?group=$group=gmane.comp.openoffice.devel.marketing