gmane.comp.mozilla.firefox.vimperator

Operator

Jan Snyder — 2008-10-07T19:05:10

My firefox was on the skitz with crashing at flash videos, so I switched to opera but wanted vimperator functionality, and I found this site: http://my.opera.com/Blazeix/blog/2008/07/04/vimperator-for-opera It could be interesting to see a vimperator for other browsers like Konqueror and Opera. The above link documents an interesting addition to Opera, but it still lacks thi colon command line functionality and dealing with links. I often hit "o" in vimperator for "open" then the first 3 letters of a link I have such as gmail, then tab for surfing to the link. This opera version of vimperator lacks this functionality though.

Dvorak Layout and digits with shift

tiot — 2008-10-07T17:20:43

Hey, I'm a French user of Vimperator, I really like it but I have some problems : 1) I use a dvorak way layout It's fr-dvorak-bepo (layout could be see here : http://www.clavier-dvorak.org/wiki/images/Layout-1.0rc1-simplifiee.png ). So the HJKL are not at the same place, notice that it's the same problem with the dvorak-us. Map command is my friend but it doesn't work with the TEXT AREA mode. So it will be possible to map all key in all mode ? (I modify the editor.js but it's not easy for everybody) 2) I must type shift with numbers Some layout like azerty haven't the digit directly. It's annoying for the quickhints, it's the same case for the fr-dvorak-bepo so I add : if (/^[",«,»,$,$,< at >,\+,\-,\/,\*]$/.test(key) && !escapeNumbers) { switch (key) { case "\"": key = "1"; break; case "«": key = "2"; break; case "»": key = "3"; break; case "(": key = "4"; break; case ")": key = "5"; break; case "< at >": key = "6"; break; case "+": key = "7"; break; case "-": key = "8"; break; case "/": key = "9"; break; case "*": key = "0"; break; default: liberator.beep(); return; } } before if (/^[0-9]$/.test(key) && !escapeNumbers) in hints.js I know it's not really beautiful but it works. My programming skills are equal to my English skills so I don't knows how I could put this code in a Scripts. If someone could help me… Thank you,

Scrolling during search

Dotan Cohen — 2008-10-07T07:56:16

When seraching on a page with the "/" function, I cannot scroll the page with the arrow keys nor with the Page[Up|Down] buttons. Is this intentional behaviour? Often I need to scroll without loosing the search (the ability to F3 to the next occurrence or add letters.

Multibyte characters problem when using :!

Alan CHENG — 2008-10-07T01:34:42

"Added :sty chrome to style" (changeset 530c13cc1ade)breaks Firefox

Ted Pavlic — 2008-10-06T19:15:38

I've been pulling down the Mercurial clone of the Vimperator mirror. Today I grabbed a batch of changes from the last few days, and these changes broke Firefox on both Windows and OS X. Firefox starts and seems to get "stuck" before it executes the .vimperatorrc file. I can *type* at the command line, but it never registers my keypress. I rolled things back until things started working, and I found that the offending changeset was: ===== 2008-10-06 maglione * src/chrome.manifest, src/content/bookmarks.js, src/content/buffer.js, src/content/liberator.js, src/content/muttator.xul, src/content/muttatorcompose.xul, src/content/tabs.js, src/content/ui.js, src/content/util.js, src/content/vimperator.xul: Added :sty chrome to style the main window, moved a bunch of inline styles to CSS, fixed some completion bugs, removed util.blankDocument [530c13cc1ade] ===== Has anyone else noticed that Vimperator ceases to start up after this "fix"? --Ted

Makefile.common is wrong

M.Terada — 2008-10-06T16:55:01

Hi In resend days, src/content/buffer.xhtml was added. But Makefile.common is not modefied. here is a patch. -- Index: Makefile.common =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/vimperator/src/Makefile.common,v retrieving revision 1.6 diff -u -r1.6 Makefile.common --- Makefile.common14 Sep 2008 07:54:16 -00001.6 +++ Makefile.common6 Oct 2008 16:50:33 -0000 < at >< at > -16,6 +16,7 < at >< at > -o -path '*.css'\ -o -path '*.xul'\ -o -path '*.html'\ + -o -path '*.xhtml'\ \)\ } JAR_DIRS = $(foreach f,${JAR_FILES},$(dir $f))

Fast copying of link location?

Ted Pavlic — 2008-10-06T12:36:51

Right now I can hit "f" (or "F") and type in a link that I want to *GO TO* on a page. It would be nice if I could do the same for a link that I wanted to *COPY*. That is, I still have to use my mouse to right-click on a link and go to "Copy Link Location." Does Vimperator currently have the ability to access "Copy Link Location" similar to how it does fast links? (I'd comb through the help documentation, but as discussed in a previous thread, ":help" doesn't work on a Mac with vimperator) --Ted

Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V, and Ctrl+Z

Jim Babcock — 2008-10-05T19:45:21

Right now, vimperator remaps both Ctrl+C (from 'copy' to 'cancel') and Ctrl+V (from 'paste' to 'pass-through'). On Linux, the preferred method of copy/paste is with the middle mouse button, so this is not a problem. On Windows, this is a user-interface disaster and it badly needs to be fixed. There are three places you might copy from: text from a Web page, text from a form field, and text from an external application. There are two places you might copy to: into a form field, and into an external application. The address and command bars work like form fields. Copying from... A web page: 'Y' works, '^C' doesn't Form field: 'Y' doesn't work, '^C' does Extern application: 'Y' doesn't work, '^C' does Copying to... Form field: '^V' doesn't work, '^V,^V' does External application: '^V' works, '^V,^V' pastes twice Or, seen another way Copy Paste Page Y N/A Form ^C ^V,^V App ^C ^V Ordinary users won't memorize that table. They'll never figure it out, because it's not documented explicitly, and they wouldn't read it even if it was. Instead, they'll use the right-click menu, the only thing that works everywhere. In fact, a few weeks after I started using Vimperator, I caught myself doing just that, in a completely unrelated application, something I had never done before. We need to restore ^C and ^V to their original, rightful functions as copy and paste, which means displacing the ^C=cancel and ^V=pass-through hotkeys. In fact, both of these hotkeys are unique to vimperator and do not appear in vim. ^V means 'block visual' in vim, which doesn't apply in vimperator, so pass-through can be easily assigned to some other key. I suggest backslash in command mode and ctrl+backslash in both command and insert modes. That leaves ^C. I think that should be moved to ^S. This has two good mnemonics: it's 'stop', and it's also the Unix hotkey for XOFF, which is useless but semantically similar. ^S is currently "save page as" in vimperator, which is rarely used and can still be accessed with :save or :saveas. Undo is also broken; it was ^Z, but ^Z is not pass-through mode and there's no way to undo edits in a form field without using the mouse. I see no reason not to move that to another hotkey, especially since ^Z in vim means suspend, which is completely unrelated, and unexpectedly finding yourself in pass-through mode is extremely disorienting. I can't think of a non-arbitrary hotkey to change this to, but ^Z was pretty arbitrary in the first place, so any unused hotkey will do.

vim

Jan Snyder — 2008-10-04T04:33:48

Vim isn't so hard. As you say, just go through vim tutorial and it's fairly straight forward to pick up. It's just one of those things you have to read about before using and modify with an "rc" config file. Of course if you don't use a config file it will be fairly unusable out of the box. I find most quality programs have an rc file. In Linux I have them all in one folder called backup with symlinks to them in other folders, so to back them up I just copy the backup folder with it's symlinks and put it into a archive and then mail it to my gmail account. That way if my linux gets messed up or I upgrade my config settings are safe. -Jan

editor vim and urxvt

Pascal Brugier — 2008-10-03T16:12:18

Hi, thanks a lot for your explanation Mateusz. I'll continue to use urxvt & vim for vimpreartor editor it'll be easiest :). Best regards.

:help completion funniness

Ted Pavlic — 2008-10-03T12:37:25

I'm running vimperator built from the changesets stored at the Mercurial clone of the main source repo. This problem seemed to start after a batch of changesets a little while ago, but I haven't isolated a particular changeset that's the source of the problem. In my .vimperatorrc, I have: :set wildoptions=auto :set cpt=l which causes my "open" commands to complete like Firefox's URL bar does. However, the "wildoptions=auto" seems to make my ":help" completions do really funny things. For example, I tried to type :help editor but it printed on the command line as :help edittotor If I type (not even that quickly): :help e(space) where that (space) is a space, I get things like (these are actual examples): :help e :help ee :help e e(space) etc. I only see this problem with help completion. My URL completion seems to work fine. Thoughts? --Ted

Cntrl+I on OS X

Ted Pavlic — 2008-10-03T01:27:24

I feel like this has been addressed on the mailing list, but I can't find it. Is the problem with the "editor" setting on OS/X fixable? Or is it a problem with Firefox as a whole? I've tried setting it to an explicit path (e.g., /usr/local/bin/gvim and /usr/local/bin/gvim -f). When I do that, the box flashes grey and then yellow. If I don't give a full path, it seems to just flash yellow. Fixable? Or not ever an option on OS X? Thanks -- Ted

Broken Firefox tab behaviour caused by Vimperator?

2008-10-02T12:11:46

Looks like another really good program I can't usebecause it isn't coherently exlplained.

Doug Thompson — 2008-10-02T01:42:38

For the most part, from what I'v e been able to make out from the info on this vimperater thing and it looks like something I could really use, ..BUT... one of the most important and basic features I need---using links or bookmarks to quickly navigate to websites is completely lacking here, and I know it's possible with the program...It's bad writing that makes no sense and does nothing to help me understand how to select and use a bookmark to navigate to a web page. And then there are quicklinks--maybe that's even better, but I'll be damned if I know, I can't make any of it work with every crazy interpretation I can get out of the gobbledygook directions given! I guess, as excited about this program as I started out being I'm just giving up because someone just didn't think it was important to explain simple things coherently. I'm pissed though because it's part of a much larger problem.... this shit is EVERYWHERE! In

Statusline query

Kenneth Miles — 2008-10-01T14:29:31

Can someone please explain the meaning of the following after a web address on the status line. [+-❤] Thanks in advance, Kenneth http://kmiles.co.uk

For some reason vimperator doesn't work at all

fREW Schmidt — 2008-09-30T14:26:18

letter x number - labels

Jirka Hrbek — 2008-09-29T11:25:02

get rid of white background in command bar etc

robert hickman — 2008-09-29T10:48:30

[patch] Completion list scrolling stops midmay

anekos — 2008-09-28T14:19:17

Hi. Completion list scrolling ( or ) stops midmay. Please review and consider applying the attached patch (s/ElementChild/Child/).

user commands

bill lam — 2008-09-28T00:33:00

Sorry for this newbie question. Often I need to type commands such as, open http://192.168.1.1 or sidebar Bookmarks How to make them user-defined commands and bind them to shortcut keys. TIA

wordstartswith, separating WordWordWord

2008-09-26T14:30:35

Helo, of course first, again, thanks a lot for Vimperator. I use wordstartswith matching and I like it very much. The only limitation is that I cannot match links like CPlusPlusFunctionInDoxygenDocumentation by typing 'cppfidd' I can't figure out how to achieve this by modifying the regexp in wordseparators, and don't think it's possible. I just want to ask if there is a way to do this. Thanks for your suggestions.