http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.tcl.mac hourly 1 1901-01-01T00:00+00:00 http://gmane.org/img/gmane-25t.png http://gmane.org http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.tcl.mac/7023 <pre>19th Annual Tcl/Tk Conference (Tcl'2012) http://www.tcl.tk/community/tcl2012/ November 12 - 16, 2012 Holiday Inn Chicago Mart Plaza 350 West Mart Center Drive Chicago, Illinois, USA Important Dates: Abstracts and proposals due August 27, 2012 Notification to authors September 10, 2012 WIP and BOF reservations open August 6, 2012 Author materials due October 29, 2012 Tutorials Start November 12, 2012 Conference starts November 14, 2012 Email Contact: tclconference-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org Submission of Summaries Tcl/Tk 2012 will be held in Chicago, Illinois, USA from November 12 - 16, 2012. The program committee is asking for papers and presentation proposals from anyone using or developing with Tcl/Tk (and extensions). Past conferences have seen submissions covering a wide variety of topics including: * Scientific and engineering applications * Industrial controls * Distributed applications and Network Managment * Object oriented extensions to Tcl/Tk * New widgets for Tk * Simulation and application steering with Tcl/Tk * Tcl/Tk-centric operating environments * Tcl/Tk on small and embedded devices * Medical applications and visualization * Use of different programming paradigms in Tcl/Tk and proposals for new directions. * New areas of exploration for the Tcl/Tk language Submissions should consist of an abstract of about 100 words and a summary of not more than two pages, and should be sent as plain text to &lt;tclconference AT googlegroups DOT com&gt; no later than August 27, 2012. Authors of accepted abstracts will have until October 29, 2012 to submit their final paper for the inclusion in the conference proceedings. The proceedings will be made available on digital media, so extra materials such as presentation slides, code examples, code for extensions etc. are encouraged. Printed proceedings will be produced as an on-demand book at lulu.com The authors will have 25 minutes to present their paper at the conference. The program committee will review and evaluate papers according to the following criteria: * Quantity and quality of novel content * Relevance and interest to the Tcl/Tk community * Suitability of content for presentation at the conference Proposals may report on commercial or non-commercial systems, but those with only blatant marketing content will not be accepted. Application and experience papers need to strike a balance between background on the application domain and the relevance of Tcl/Tk to the application. Application and experience papers should clearly explain how the application or experience illustrates a novel use of Tcl/Tk, and what lessons the Tcl/Tk community can derive from the application or experience to apply to their own development efforts. Papers accompanied by non-disclosure agreements will be returned to the author(s) unread. All submissions are held in the highest confidentiality prior to publication in the Proceedings, both as a matter of policy and in accord with the U. S. Copyright Act of 1976. The primary author for each accepted paper will receive registration to the Technical Sessions portion of the conference at a reduced rate. Other Forms of Participation The program committee also welcomes proposals for panel discussions of up to 90 minutes. Proposals should include a list of confirmed panelists, a title and format, and a panel description with position statements from each panelist. Panels should have no more than four speakers, including the panel moderator, and should allow time for substantial interaction with attendees. Panels are not presentations of related research papers. Slots for Works-in-Progress (WIP) presentations and Birds-of-a-Feather sessions (BOFs) are available on a first-come, first-served basis starting in August 6, 2012. Specific instructions for reserving WIP and BOF time slots will be provided in the registration information available in June 2012. Some WIP and BOF time slots will be held open for on-site reservation. All attendees with an interesting work in progress should consider reserving a WIP slot. Registration Information More information on the conference is available the conference Web site (http://www.tcl.tk/community/tcl2012/) and will be published on various Tcl/Tk-related information channels. To keep in touch with news regarding the conference and Tcl events in general, subscribe to the tcl-announce list. See: http://code.activestate.com/lists/tcl-announce to subscribe to the tcl-announce mailing list. Conference Committee Clif Flynt Noumena CorpGeneral Chair, Website Admin Andreas Kupries ActiveState Software Inc.Program Chair Cyndy Lilagan Nat. Museum of Health &amp; Medicine, ChicagoSite/Facilities Chair Brian Griffin Mentor Graphics Ron Fox NSCL/FRIB Michigan State University Arjen Markus Deltares Mike Doyle National Museum of Health &amp; Medicine, Chicago Gerald Lester KnG Consulting, LLC Donal Fellows University of Manchester Jeffrey Hobbs ActiveState Software Inc. Steve Landers Digital Smarties Kevin Kenny GE Global Research Center Contact Information tclconference-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org Tcl'2012 would like to thank those who are sponsoring the conference: ActiveState Software Inc. Buonacorsi Foundation Mentor Graphics Noumena Corp. SR Technology Tcl Community Association ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This SF email is sponsosred by: Try Windows Azure free for 90 days Click Here http://p.sf.net/sfu/sfd2d-msazure </pre> Andreas Kupries 2012-04-02T18:49:58 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.tcl.mac/7022 <pre>I've released TclGrowl, an update to my Tcl-and-AppleScript-based Tcl interface to the Growl notification system on OS X. This version should work with all versions of Growl, including the latest version distributed with the App Store. More details here: http://www.codebykevin.com/blosxom.cgi/2012/02/26#tclgrowl Thanks to Steve Landers for his contributions to this package. </pre> Kevin Walzer 2012-02-27T03:17:26 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.tcl.mac/7021 <pre>Hi all, Apple released Xcode 4.3 this week, and the new version has some significant differences over previous iterations of the IDE. Xcode no longer installs in /Developer, but is instead a single app bundle that installs in /Applications. Additionally, Xcode no longer installs numerous command-line tools such as llvm, clang, gcc, etc. These can either be installed from Xcode 4.3's preferences menu, or as a separate download from Apple's developer site. The reason I'm mentioning this is that I ran into significant issues trying to patch and build a new version of Tk with Xcode 4.3. (I'm not alone in this respect. Many open-source projects, such as MacPorts, Fink, and Homebrew are also finding a lot of their packages are breaking because of the changes in Xcode.) Tk couldn't find standard headers like stdio.h, let alone the Cocoa and Carbon headers it depends on for the Aqua version. After a lot of Googling, trial and error, I got a new build of Tcl and Tk to work. Here's what I did: 1. Before installing Xcode 4.3 from the Mac App Store, I removed all previous installations of Xcode using the uninstall script that is found in /Developer. (Xcode 4.3 also allows you to do this.) I did this to avoid path conflicts. 2. Installed Xcode 4.3 and the command-line tools. 3. Ran this command: sudo xcode-select -switch /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/. This command points system resources to the correct header paths, command-line tools, etc. if you have the full Xcode installation. After this, I had to rebuild Tcl and Tk from scratch, and everything ran smoothly. Apple also has made the command-line tools available as a download that does not require the full Xcode installation. I haven't tested this setup, so I can't speak to how it works with open-source software; my guess is that the xcode-select command would need to be run, possibly to point to a different location. The list archives and bug trackers of MacPorts, Fink, and Homebrew are full of discussion about this over the past several days, and it's not fully clear to me how they are resolving the issue or what setup they are recommending for end users. This release of Xcode was a bit bumpy for open-source projects, and I hope this basic discussion of what worked for me will be helpful to others. Thanks, Kevin </pre> Kevin Walzer 2012-02-22T23:44:50 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.tcl.mac/7017 <pre>Hi, I've been trying to port an application to Tk Cocoa and one of the differences I've been running into is display refresh. I don't know if there is just one problem or multiple problems, but it seems like updates from the Tk side are prioritized lower than in Carbon. Observations on 10.6 (all differences from Mac/Carbon, Windows, and X): 1) if you make changes to a canvas widget, and then take it offscreen, the changes are not visible the next time you bring it onscreen (instead they come after a short delay) 2) when extending the size of a window by PACKing something onto the bottom, the sequence happens thusly: a) the window size is extended; b) the entire contents of the window are redrawn starting from the new bottom; c) the height information for the contents of the new piece start getting paid attention to, which causes a second redraw of the contents back in the original position 3) the bug here (http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&amp;aid=3166688&amp;group_id=12997&amp;atid=112997), where using pack / pack forget to switch a tabbed display fails to refresh in timely fashion Before I dive into the event loop and display refresh code in Tk Cocoa (and who knows if I'll come out), has anyone else taken a look at this and/or have any insights or suggestions to offer from other experience with refresh/event loop in Cocoa or Tk? thanks, Adrian ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Try before you buy = See our experts in action! 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Both of these apps are using a custom build of plain vanilla Tcl/Tk 8.5.10. .hc ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "[T]he greatest purveyor of violence in the world today [is] my own government." - Martin Luther King, Jr. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Try before you buy = See our experts in action! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-dev2 </pre> Hans-Christoph Steiner 2012-01-30T04:14:08 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.tcl.mac/7009 <pre> Hello, I am contributing to an application being developed which is being re-written from tk/tcl -&gt; tk/cocoa. I am receiving this error: kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGSRegisterCursorWithImages: Invalid hot spot (outside of size) I am wondering if this error is familiar to anyone or if I can be pointed in the right direction. Google reveals next to nothing for this error. Thanks x </pre> xi0n0ix 2011-10-25T13:56:53 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.tcl.mac/7008 <pre>Hi all, I'm posting this here because a few of the list members make use of the Growl notification system (http://growl.info) in their apps. Growl has just released a new version that makes significant changes in its API--these changes are for compatibility with Mac App Store requirements and also to put the system on firmer developmental footing moving forward. Unfortunately, these changes also break many of the third-party language bindings for Growl. I've been informally maintaining two separate Tcl-Growl integration packages--one, macgrowl, is of my own creation and is a Tcl wrapper for Growl's AppleScript interface. The other, tclgrowl, was a "native" Objective-C library developed by the Growl team itself but was largely abandoned (I cobbled a TEA-compliant package out of it and host it at my SVN repo at SF). Neither package works with the new version of Growl. Since many of my commercial Tcl/Tk apps support Growl, I'm going to be putting together some sort of new package for Growl integration with Tcl, but I haven't yet decided how to proceed. Growl's "native" notification system uses a new network protocol that is completely incompatible with the old system. Its new AppleScript API requires fewer changes, but may not play nice with Apple's new "sandboxing" requirements in Lion and the Mac App Store. I don't yet have a timeline for implementing a new Growl package; it partly depends on how much work will be involved. I've asked the Growl team for some guidance on this. In the meantime, once I do have something ready, it will be released open-source somewhere, and I'll post an announcement here. Thanks, Kevin </pre> Kevin Walzer 2011-10-20T14:15:17 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.tcl.mac/7004 <pre>Hi all, I've scratched a long-standing personal itch by porting snackAmp to OS X. SnackAmp is a multi-platform music player with normal music player abilities, multi-user support, integrated web server, and a powerful AutoPlaylist feature. snackAmp for OS X is based on the original snackAmp by Tom Wilkason at http://snackamp.sourceforge.net/. The Mac version incorporates some enhancements to make the program a good Mac OS X citizen. It requires Mac OS X 10.7 (Lion) to run. snackAmp is licensed under the GPL. The snackAmp application is deployed as a standard Mac application bundle, and the source code is included in the bundle (snackAmp.app/MacOS/snackAmp.vfs). Here's a link to the download page: http://www.codebykevin.com/opensource/snackamp.html Enjoy! --Kevin </pre> Kevin Walzer 2011-10-17T00:51:50 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.tcl.mac/7003 <pre>Hi all, I've scratched a long-standing personal itch by porting snackAmp to OS X. SnackAmp is a multi-platform music player with normal music player abilities, multi-user support, integrated web server, and a powerful AutoPlaylist feature. snackAmp for OS X is based on the original snackAmp by Tom Wilkason at http://snackamp.sourceforge.net/. The Mac version incorporates some enhancements to make the program a good Mac OS X citizen. It requires Mac OS X 10.7 (Lion) to run. snackAmp is licensed under the GPL. The snackAmp application is deployed as a standard Mac application bundle, and the source code is included in the bundle (snackAmp.app/MacOS/snackAmp.vfs). Here's a link to the download page: http://www.codebykevin.com/opensource/snackamp.html Enjoy! --Kevin </pre> Kevin Walzer 2011-10-17T00:50:53 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.tcl.mac/6997 <pre> Hi, Having trouble creating a Universal Binary embedded build. I've tried on multiple Macs w/multiple versions of OSX (Leopard, Snow Leopard). While it builds with no errors on Leopard, I get either an intel binary, or a ppc one, depending on my system. Below is an example of my environment on an intel OSX 10.5.8 (intel) computer that stubbornly only will create an Intel Wish binary. Specs: tcl/tk 8.5.9 Xcode 3.0 OSX 10.5.8 Intel Core 2 Duo sh-3.2# pwd /Users/danielb/desktop/tcl sh-3.2# ls tcl8.5.9tk8.5.9 sh-3.2# ver="8.5.9" sh-3.2# export CFLAGS="-arch ppc -arch i386 -isysroot /Developer/SDKs/ MacOSX10.4u.sdk -mmacosx-version-min=10.4" sh-3.2# sudo make -C tcl${ver}/macosx embedded sh-3.2# sudo make -C tk${ver}/macosx embedded Running up against a bit of a deadline in getting a viable stand-alone build that will operate on PPC and Intel environments. If anyone has any ideas as to what I'm doing wrong--any suggestions at all--I would greatly appreciate it! Thanks! -Daniel B </pre> daneyul 2011-09-30T17:19:01 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.tcl.mac/6996 <pre>Hello all ! I'm porting my Tcl/Tk app on a mac. This is my first attempt to develop on a Mac, so sorry if my questions are naives. First of all, I must use a 8.6 X11 Tcl/Tk version, which uses Xft. When compiling Tk, the --enable-xft flag is set, but configure reports an error as it can't find the Xft.h header file. This file exists, in /usr/include/X11/Xft/, as on a normal unix platform, but it isn't seen by the system header path. I'm working with Mac OSX 10.5.8, XCode 3.1. Is it possible to build a Xft enabled Tk ? And if so, how do I add /usr/include/X11/Xft/ to the system headers path ? Many thanks in advance !! Luc ---------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Luc Moulinier, Laboratoire de Biologie et Génomique Intégratives IGBMC 1, rue Laurent Fries 67 404 ILLKIRCH Cedex Phone : +33 (0)3 88 65 32 79 ---------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2dcopy1 </pre> Luc MOULINIER 2011-09-12T15:53:13 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.tcl.mac/6986 <pre>Hi, I am working on a code that has TkMacOSXDrawbableWindowRef, this function is no longer supported in TCL/TK 8.5.9 Cocoa should I replace it with TkMacOSXDrawbableWindow? I have tried this and the linker can't find it and returns an error. I have tried recompiling the Cocoa based TCL/TK 8.5.9 with no luck the function can't be found. What should I do? Cheers, Alexander. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Special Offer -- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE! Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better price-free! And you'll get a free "Love Thy Logs" t-shirt when you download Logger. Secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY! http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsisghtdev2dev </pre> Alexander Agathos 2011-09-02T10:21:22 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.tcl.mac/6977 <pre>Has anyone had any experience using Aqua Tk (either Carbon or Cocoa) with the Mac OS X Dvorak - Qwerty Cmd input method. (See System Preferences -&gt; Language &amp; Text -&gt; Input Sources). The idea behind it is to have a Dvorak keyboard layout except when the Command key is pressed (as when using keyboard accelerators): then the keyboard reverts to a standard Qwerty layout. I had never run into it before until someone submitted this Python issue: http://bugs.python.org/issue12748 As I noted in the issue, I'm really not keen on tracking this down further myself at the moment but I thought I'd bring it up here in (1) to see if anyone else had any experience using this input method with Tk apps (in particular, with text processing and keyboard menu accelerators) and (2) to bring it to the attention of anyone who might want to look into it sometime. Thanks. </pre> Ned Deily 2011-08-16T00:49:03 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.tcl.mac/6976 <pre>[[ Get your papers in. The deadline for abstracts and proposals is three weeks away. ]] 18th Annual Tcl/Tk Conference (Tcl'2011) http://www.tcl.tk/community/tcl2011/ October 24 - 28, 2011 Comfort Suites Manassas Manassas, Virgina, USA Important Dates: Abstracts and proposals due August 26, 2011 Notification to authors September 12, 2011 WIP and BOF reservations open August 1, 2011 Author materials due October 9, 2011 Tutorials Start October 24, 2011 Conference starts October 26, 2011 Email Contact: tclconference-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org Submission of Summaries Tcl/Tk 2011 will be held in Manassas, Virgina, USA from October 24 - 28, 2011. The program committee is asking for papers and presentation proposals from anyone using or developing with Tcl/Tk (and extensions). Past conferences have seen submissions covering a wide variety of topics including: * Scientific and engineering applications * Industrial controls * Distributed applications and Network Managment * Object oriented extensions to Tcl/Tk * New widgets for Tk * Simulation and application steering with Tcl/Tk * Tcl/Tk-centric operating environments * Tcl/Tk on small and embedded devices * Medical applications and visualization * Use of different programming paradigms in Tcl/Tk and proposals for new directions. * New areas of exploration for the Tcl/Tk language This year is the fourth year that the Tcl community is participating in the Google Summer of Code. The conference program committee would like to encourage submissions that report on the Tcl projects selected for Google SoC 2011. Submissions should consist of an abstract of about 100 words and a summary of not more than two pages, and should be sent as plain text to &lt;tclconference AT googlegroups DOT com&gt; no later than August 26, 2011. Authors of accepted abstracts will have until October 9, 2011 to submit their final paper for the inclusion in the conference proceedings. The proceedings will be made available on digital media, so extra materials such as presentation slides, code examples, code for extensions etc. are encouraged. Printed proceedings will be produced as an on-demand book at lulu.com The authors will have 25 minutes to present their paper at the conference. The program committee will review and evaluate papers according to the following criteria: * Quantity and quality of novel content * Relevance and interest to the Tcl/Tk community * Suitability of content for presentation at the conference Proposals may report on commercial or non-commercial systems, but those with only blatant marketing content will not be accepted. Application and experience papers need to strike a balance between background on the application domain and the relevance of Tcl/Tk to the application. Application and experience papers should clearly explain how the application or experience illustrates a novel use of Tcl/Tk, and what lessons the Tcl/Tk community can derive from the application or experience to apply to their own development efforts. Papers accompanied by non-disclosure agreements will be returned to the author(s) unread. All submissions are held in the highest confidentiality prior to publication in the Proceedings, both as a matter of policy and in accord with the U. S. Copyright Act of 1976. The primary author for each accepted paper will receive registration to the Technical Sessions portion of the conference at a reduced rate. TCLCA receives first publication rights, and expects that this is the first time the paper is published. Not a retread from another conference, etc. TCLCA further receives subsequent publication rights, to handle the Publish-On-Demand nature of Lulu, our vendor for the dissemination of the conference proceedings. All other rights are retained by the author. You can put this on your website, include it in a book, expand it into a novel, sell the movie rights, etc. Other Forms of Participation The program committee also welcomes proposals for panel discussions of up to 90 minutes. Proposals should include a list of confirmed panelists, a title and format, and a panel description with position statements from each panelist. Panels should have no more than four speakers, including the panel moderator, and should allow time for substantial interaction with attendees. Panels are not presentations of related research papers. Slots for Works-in-Progress (WIP) presentations and Birds-of-a-Feather sessions (BOFs) are available on a first-come, first-served basis starting in August 1, 2011. Specific instructions for reserving WIP and BOF time slots will be provided in the registration information available in June 2011. Some WIP and BOF time slots will be held open for on-site reservation. All attendees with an interesting work in progress should consider reserving a WIP slot. Registration Information More information on the conference is available the conference Web site (http://www.tcl.tk/community/tcl2011/) and will be published on various Tcl/Tk-related information channels. Reservations for hotel suites can be made by calling (703) 686-1100. Be certain to mention that you are with the Tcl/Tk Conference to get the Tcl/Tk Conference room rate. To keep in touch with news regarding the conference and Tcl events in general, subscribe to the tcl-announce list. See: http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Mail/ to subscribe to the tcl-announce mailing list. Conference Committee Clif Flynt Noumena Corp General Chair, Website Admin Andreas Kupries ActiveState Software Inc. Program Chair Cyndy Lilagan Iomas Research, LLC Brian Griffin Mentor Graphics Ron Fox NSCL/FRIB Michigan State University Arjen Markus Deltares Mike Doyle Iomas Research, LLC Gerald Lester KnG Consulting, LLC Donal Fellows University of Manchester Jeffrey Hobbs ActiveState Software Inc. Steve Landers Digital Smarties Kevin Kenny GE Global Research Center Larry Virden Tcl FAQ Maintainer Steve Redler IVSR Technology Contact Information tclconference-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org Tcl'2011 would like to thank those who are sponsoring the conference: ActiveState Software Inc. Buonacorsi Foundation Mentor Graphics Noumena Corp. SR Technology Tcl Community Association ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ BlackBerry&amp;reg; DevCon Americas, Oct. 18-20, San Francisco, CA The must-attend event for mobile developers. Connect with experts. Get tools for creating Super Apps. See the latest technologies. Sessions, hands-on labs, demos &amp; much more. Register early &amp; save! http://p.sf.net/sfu/rim-blackberry-1 </pre> Andreas Kupries 2011-08-05T20:59:01 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.tcl.mac/6974 <pre>[repost from c.l.t, sent there by mistake] Hi all, I've been wrestling with a bug in Tk-Cocoa that is leaving me stumped, and I'm wondering if anyone else has any insight. I wrote this code to test some minor updates to the wm manage/wm forget commands that I've implemented for Tk. The code should work under the latest release of ActiveTcl, if you don't have that version. The bug I'm trying to track down is an issue with the screen redraw. When you run this code in Wish, and click the "dock" button, you'll get a new toplevel, per the [wm manage] command. Close the window, and the widget is packed again. Click the "dock" button again, and you may see *two* buttons drawn in the new toplevel, and/or some blurry lines/spots that indicate visual trash that hasn't been cleaned up. It doesn't happen on the first firing of wm forget/wm manage, but on subsequent ones. The code below is the simplest illustration of issues with sluggish or incomplete screen redraw that I can come up with. I've observed this in Tk-Cocoa for a couple of years now, but others are seeing it also (Torsten Berg reported the bug on c.l.t), and it seems to be an issue. Daniel, if you're reading, any suggestions about where in the source tree I should look at to deal with this? Getting deep into the internals of Tk drawing is a bit out of my depth, and any pointers are appreciated. Code is below. (I *hope* this code doesn't display another bug, which is a hard crash under certain circumstances with the wm forget command, but that's another issue.) Thanks. proc tearoff {w} { global docked pack forget $w wm manage $w update wm protocol $w WM_DELETE_WINDOW [list untearoff $w] } proc untearoff {w} { wm forget $w pack $w } pack [frame .f] pack [button .f.b -text "Dock" -command {tearoff .f}] --Kevin </pre> Kevin Walzer 2011-07-27T21:17:53 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.tcl.mac/6968 <pre>Hello, Is there some mechanism to force Apple's Tcl/Tk to run in 32 bit mode? I have some extensions that are only 32 bit… If I start tclsh with: arch -i386 /usr/bin/tclsh then my older extensions will load. I have some gui-based apps ( wrapped with platypus ) that want to load the 32 bit (only) versions of the extensions. Is there something like the VERSIONER variables that Python uses? Is there something I can put into the environment.plist in .MacOSX to direct gui tcl apps to use 32 bit mode? 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The bindings in question are: set ::modifier "Mod1" ;# for x-platform support set ::altkey "Option" bind all &lt;$::modifier-Key-a&gt; {menu_send %W selectall} bind all &lt;$::modifier-$::altkey-Key-a&gt; {menu_toggle_autopatch} bind all &lt;$::modifier-Shift-Key-B&gt; {menu_send %W bng} When I press Cmd-a, menu_send is called once with the canvas id. Same goes for Cmd-Option-a. But when I press Cmd-Shift-b, menu_send is called twice, once for the toplevel and again for the canvas. There are about 30 $::modifier-Key bindings, 4 $::modifier-$::altkey- Key bindings, and 15 $::modifier-Shift-Key bindings, and this behavior is consistent across all of them, it is only the bindings with the Shift that get sent twice. You can see the full code in question here: http://pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=pure-data/pd-extended.git;a=blob;f=tcl/pd_bindings.tcl;h=554adbd9bd5ddd476e51caddfb0aa1e5536990c1;hb=HEAD Any ideas? .hc ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "We have nothing to fear from love and commitment." - New York Senator Diane Savino, trying to convince the NY Senate to pass a gay marriage bill ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously valuable. Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2 </pre> Hans-Christoph Steiner 2011-07-12T01:02:31 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.tcl.mac/6958 <pre>[[ Important Changes: The Conference Registration Page is live. Regarding special events we are looking into arranging a trip to the Air and Space Museum out near Dulles. This is currently a very tentative thing. If a local person would like to help with this please talk to "clif-rmswbx36Wn3QT0dZR+AlfA&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org". ]] 18th Annual Tcl/Tk Conference (Tcl'2011) http://www.tcl.tk/community/tcl2011/ October 24 - 28, 2011 Comfort Suites Manassas Manassas, Virgina, USA Important Dates: Abstracts and proposals due August 26, 2011 Notification to authors September 12, 2011 WIP and BOF reservations open August 1, 2011 Author materials due October 9, 2011 Tutorials Start October 24, 2011 Conference starts October 26, 2011 Email Contact: tclconference-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org Submission of Summaries Tcl/Tk 2011 will be held in Manassas, Virgina, USA from October 24 - 28, 2011. The program committee is asking for papers and presentation proposals from anyone using or developing with Tcl/Tk (and extensions). Past conferences have seen submissions covering a wide variety of topics including: * Scientific and engineering applications * Industrial controls * Distributed applications and Network Managment * Object oriented extensions to Tcl/Tk * New widgets for Tk * Simulation and application steering with Tcl/Tk * Tcl/Tk-centric operating environments * Tcl/Tk on small and embedded devices * Medical applications and visualization * Use of different programming paradigms in Tcl/Tk and proposals for new directions. * New areas of exploration for the Tcl/Tk language This year is the fourth year that the Tcl community is participating in the Google Summer of Code. The conference program committee would like to encourage submissions that report on the Tcl projects selected for Google SoC 2011. Submissions should consist of an abstract of about 100 words and a summary of not more than two pages, and should be sent as plain text to &lt;tclconference AT googlegroups DOT com&gt; no later than August 26, 2011. Authors of accepted abstracts will have until October 9, 2011 to submit their final paper for the inclusion in the conference proceedings. The proceedings will be made available on digital media, so extra materials such as presentation slides, code examples, code for extensions etc. are encouraged. Printed proceedings will be produced as an on-demand book at lulu.com The authors will have 25 minutes to present their paper at the conference. The program committee will review and evaluate papers according to the following criteria: * Quantity and quality of novel content * Relevance and interest to the Tcl/Tk community * Suitability of content for presentation at the conference Proposals may report on commercial or non-commercial systems, but those with only blatant marketing content will not be accepted. Application and experience papers need to strike a balance between background on the application domain and the relevance of Tcl/Tk to the application. Application and experience papers should clearly explain how the application or experience illustrates a novel use of Tcl/Tk, and what lessons the Tcl/Tk community can derive from the application or experience to apply to their own development efforts. Papers accompanied by non-disclosure agreements will be returned to the author(s) unread. All submissions are held in the highest confidentiality prior to publication in the Proceedings, both as a matter of policy and in accord with the U. S. Copyright Act of 1976. The primary author for each accepted paper will receive registration to the Technical Sessions portion of the conference at a reduced rate. Other Forms of Participation The program committee also welcomes proposals for panel discussions of up to 90 minutes. Proposals should include a list of confirmed panelists, a title and format, and a panel description with position statements from each panelist. Panels should have no more than four speakers, including the panel moderator, and should allow time for substantial interaction with attendees. Panels are not presentations of related research papers. Slots for Works-in-Progress (WIP) presentations and Birds-of-a-Feather sessions (BOFs) are available on a first-come, first-served basis starting in August 1, 2011. Specific instructions for reserving WIP and BOF time slots will be provided in the registration information available in June 2011. Some WIP and BOF time slots will be held open for on-site reservation. All attendees with an interesting work in progress should consider reserving a WIP slot. Registration Information More information on the conference is available the conference Web site (http://www.tcl.tk/community/tcl2011/) and will be published on various Tcl/Tk-related information channels. Reservations for hotel suites can be made by calling (703) 686-1100. Be certain to mention that you are with the Tcl/Tk Conference to get the Tcl/Tk Conference room rate. To keep in touch with news regarding the conference and Tcl events in general, subscribe to the tcl-announce list. See: http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Mail/ to subscribe to the tcl-announce mailing list. Conference Committee Clif Flynt Noumena Corp General Chair, Website Admin Andreas Kupries ActiveState Software Inc. Program Chair Cyndy Lilagan Iomas Research, LLC Brian Griffin Mentor Graphics Ron Fox NSCL/FRIB Michigan State University Arjen Markus Deltares Mike Doyle Iomas Research, LLC Gerald Lester KnG Consulting, LLC Donal Fellows University of Manchester Jeffrey Hobbs ActiveState Software Inc. Steve Landers Digital Smarties Kevin Kenny GE Global Research Center Larry Virden Tcl FAQ Maintainer Steve Redler IVSR Technology Contact Information tclconference-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org Tcl'2011 would like to thank those who are sponsoring the conference: ActiveState Software Inc. Buonacorsi Foundation Mentor Graphics Noumena Corp. SR Technology Tcl Community Association ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ EditLive Enterprise is the world's most technically advanced content authoring tool. Experience the power of Track Changes, Inline Image Editing and ensure content is compliant with Accessibility Checking. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ephox-dev2dev </pre> Andreas Kupries 2011-06-17T16:16:59 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.tcl.mac/6957 <pre>Hi all, I've done some updates to TkChat on the Mac build to bring it up to the current version, 1.482, as well as updating the version of the Cocoa-based tclkit powering this build. If you use TkChat at all, download the new Mac version here: http://tkchat.tcl.tk/ Thanks, Kevin </pre> Kevin Walzer 2011-05-12T13:51:15 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.tcl.mac/6956 <pre>I've released updates to two of my open-source packages for Tcl-Mac: 1. Cocoaprint-1.3: This release adds support for print preview and saving a file as PDF or PostScript. Download from http://tk-components.sourceforge.net. 2. Windowlist-1.4: This release enhances the "window" menu support for OS X, and fixes a bug bringing all windows forward when no window is showing. Download from http://www.codebykevin.com/opensource/oss.html. --Kevin </pre> Kevin Walzer 2011-04-16T18:05:19 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.tcl.mac/6955 <pre>18th Annual Tcl/Tk Conference (Tcl'2011) http://www.tcl.tk/community/tcl2011/ October 24 - 28, 2011 Comfort Suites Manassas Manassas, Virgina, USA Important Dates: Abstracts and proposals due August 26, 2011 Notification to authors September 12, 2011 WIP and BOF reservations open August 1, 2011 Author materials due October 9, 2011 Tutorials Start October 24, 2011 Conference starts October 26, 2011 Email Contact: tclconference-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org Submission of Summaries Tcl/Tk 2011 will be held in Manassas, Virgina, USA from October 24 - 28, 2011. The program committee is asking for papers and presentation proposals from anyone using or developing with Tcl/Tk (and extensions). Past conferences have seen submissions covering a wide variety of topics including: * Scientific and engineering applications * Industrial controls * Distributed applications and Network Managment * Object oriented extensions to Tcl/Tk * New widgets for Tk * Simulation and application steering with Tcl/Tk * Tcl/Tk-centric operating environments * Tcl/Tk on small and embedded devices * Medical applications and visualization * Use of different programming paradigms in Tcl/Tk and proposals for new directions. * New areas of exploration for the Tcl/Tk language This year is the fourth year that the Tcl community is participating in the Google Summer of Code. The conference program committee would like to encourage submissions that report on the Tcl projects selected for Google SoC 2011. Submissions should consist of an abstract of about 100 words and a summary of not more than two pages, and should be sent as plain text to &lt;tclconference AT googlegroups DOT com&gt; no later than August 30, 2011. Authors of accepted abstracts will have until October 14, 2011 to submit their final paper for the inclusion in the conference proceedings. The proceedings will be made available on digital media, so extra materials such as presentation slides, code examples, code for extensions etc. are encouraged. Printed proceedings will be produced as an on-demand book at lulu.com The authors will have 25 minutes to present their paper at the conference. The program committee will review and evaluate papers according to the following criteria: * Quantity and quality of novel content * Relevance and interest to the Tcl/Tk community * Suitability of content for presentation at the conference Proposals may report on commercial or non-commercial systems, but those with only blatant marketing content will not be accepted. Application and experience papers need to strike a balance between background on the application domain and the relevance of Tcl/Tk to the application. Application and experience papers should clearly explain how the application or experience illustrates a novel use of Tcl/Tk, and what lessons the Tcl/Tk community can derive from the application or experience to apply to their own development efforts. Papers accompanied by non-disclosure agreements will be returned to the author(s) unread. All submissions are held in the highest confidentiality prior to publication in the Proceedings, both as a matter of policy and in accord with the U. S. Copyright Act of 1976. The primary author for each accepted paper will receive registration to the Technical Sessions portion of the conference at a reduced rate. Other Forms of Participation The program committee also welcomes proposals for panel discussions of up to 90 minutes. Proposals should include a list of confirmed panelists, a title and format, and a panel description with position statements from each panelist. Panels should have no more than four speakers, including the panel moderator, and should allow time for substantial interaction with attendees. Panels are not presentations of related research papers. Slots for Works-in-Progress (WIP) presentations and Birds-of-a-Feather sessions (BOFs) are available on a first-come, first-served basis starting in August 1, 2011. Specific instructions for reserving WIP and BOF time slots will be provided in the registration information available in June 2011. Some WIP and BOF time slots will be held open for on-site reservation. All attendees with an interesting work in progress should consider reserving a WIP slot. Registration Information More information on the conference is available the conference Web site (http://www.tcl.tk/community/tcl2011/) and will be published on various Tcl/Tk-related information channels. To keep in touch with news regarding the conference and Tcl events in general, subscribe to the tcl-announce list. See: http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Mail/ to subscribe to the tcl-announce mailing list. Conference Committee Clif Flynt Noumena Corp General Chair, Website Admin Andreas Kupries ActiveState Software Inc. Program Chair Cyndy Lilagan Iomas Research, LLC Brian Griffin Mentor Graphics Ron Fox NSCL/FRIB Michigan State University Arjen Markus Deltares Mike Doyle Iomas Research, LLC Gerald Lester KnG Consulting, LLC Donal Fellows University of Manchester Jeffrey Hobbs ActiveState Software Inc. Steve Landers Digital Smarties Kevin Kenny GE Global Research Center Larry Virden Tcl FAQ Maintainer Steve Redler IVSR Technology Contact Information tclconference-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org Tcl'2011 would like to thank those who are sponsoring the conference: ActiveState Software Inc. Buonacorsi Foundation Mentor Graphics Noumena Corp. SR Technology Tcl Community Association ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Forrester Wave Report - Recovery time is now measured in hours and minutes not days. Key insights are discussed in the 2010 Forrester Wave Report as part of an in-depth evaluation of disaster recovery service providers. Forrester found the best-in-class provider in terms of services and vision. Read this report now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/ibm-webcastpromo </pre> Andreas Kupries 2011-04-11T19:06:26 Search the mailing list at Gmane query http://search.gmane.org/?group=$group=gmane.comp.lang.tcl.mac