http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.comp.kde.devel.accessibility hourly 1 1901-01-01T00:00+00:00 http://gmane.org/img/gmane-25t.png http://gmane.org http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.kde.devel.accessibility/2332 <pre> Hi, My name is George, and I am legally blind. I have what is known as macular degeneration. My central vision is gone, and I depend on my peripheral vision and the windows XP magnifier to do computer tasks. I find that a "Desktop Magnifier" DOES NOT work. I tried KMag, but it lacks some attributes that would help people afflicted with macular degeneration. This brings me to why I contacted you. Can the KMag utility be configured to work similar to the windows XP magnifier? That is : 1) Always on top, with one difference: It would reduce the bounds of the Desktop area available for applications. This way, other running applications would be forced to resize to fit below the magnifier viewing area. 2) The controls and the magnified viewing area would be separate. The settings menu could be placed on a panel app on the taskbar or System Tray. This would ensure the best use of the viewable area. I hope you have a solution to this problem, and would like to hear your thoughts on this matter as soon as possible. Thank you. George Isaksen George.isaksen&lt; at &gt;verizon.net ---_______________________________________________ kde-accessibility mailing list kde-accessibility&lt; at &gt;kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-accessibility </pre> George Isaksen 2013-04-30T21:17:46 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.kde.devel.accessibility/2331 <pre>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ CALL FOR PAPERS Workshop on Rethinking Universal Accessibility: A broader approach considering the digital gap http://sipt07.si.ehu.es/WS/RethinkingUA/ Cape Town, South Africa, 2 Sep 2013 In conjunction with INTERACT 2013, 2-6 Sep 2013 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Submission deadline: 20 May 2013 Submission types: - position papers (four pages) - regular papers (eight pages) Papers should be submitted via EasyChair at: https://www.easychair.org/conferences/?conf=wsrua2013 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ BACKGROUND Universal Accessibility aims at including all people with disabilities in the target population for user-centered design. It is usually focused on the needs of people with disabilities, frequently including elderly people. Current advancements in the Design for all concept may require complex equipment, advanced network environments, or computer training. Therefore, these products or services may fall out the access of many people with disabilities because economical, technological or formative restric-tions. This is a frequent situation in developing countries, but it is becoming common also in developed countries where poverty and emigration are frequently associated with barriers to access to assistive technologies and services. This Workshop aims at rethinking the concept of Universal Accessibility in order to find ways to include all excluded people with disabilities. It is organized on behalf of the IFIP WG 13.3 HCI and Disability for HCI for academics, designers, managers, etc., interested in creating methodologies, tools and products for a wider market, considering ethic and social requirements. Thus, the main objective of this workshop is to discuss the possibility of broadening the Universal Accessibility concept to include geopolitical and socio-economical circumstances. Experiences in fighting the Digital Gap will especially be welcome. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SUBMISSIONS This one-day workshop is open to researchers and practitioners with experience or interest in Universal Accessiblity. Submissions will be selected based on relevance to the workshop topics, on originality, and on insightfulness. ~~~~~~ Topics: This workshop will focus on theoretical and practical work on the impact of economical, technological, social, political, etc., issues in universal accessibility. Real experiences in fighting info-exclusion will be particularly welcome. Authors of submissions should carefully explain how the work and results presented contribute to enhance and broaden the Universal Access concept. - Can the Universal Accessibility concept be extended in order to include people with disabilities also affected by other barriers such as poverty, illiteracy, lack of access to advanced technology, etc.? - Is it possible to create accessibility guidelines that also consider affordable devices, deprecated technology, cultural issues, and illiteracy? - Is it possible to separate the accessibility for people with disabilities to the accessibility of the rest of the population? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Submission Types: Two types of contributions are expected: - Position papers (four pages), containing opinions and proposals to be discussed at the workshop - Regular papers (eight pages), presenting results of research activities fighting infoexclusion due to socio-economical or geopolitical reasons, affecting people with disabilities All submissions should follow the LNCS format, whose instructions are available at: http://www.springer.com/computer/lncs?SGWID=0-164-6-793341-0 Authors should submit their work via EasyChair, at: https://www.easychair.org/conferences/?conf=wsrua2013 ~~~~~~~~~~~ Publication: Accepted regular papers will be invited to submit an extension to Springer's Universal Access in the Information Society journal for a Special Issue on Rethinking Universal Accessibility. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ IMPORTANT DATES May 20th 2013. Submission deadline May 26th 2013. Notification to authors Jun 1st 2013. Participants registration deadline Jun 26th 2013. Summision of the camera-ready version Sep 2th 2013. Workshop 2014. UAIS Special Issue publication ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ORGANISATION - Julio Abascal, Computer Architecture and Technology Department. University of the Basque Country UPV/EHU, Spain. - Simone D. J. Barbosa, Informatics Department. PUC-Rio, Brazil. - Andrew Dearden, is a Reader in e-SocialAction within the Communication &amp; Computing Research Centre. Sheffield Hallam University, UK. - Anirudha Joshi, Industrial Design Centre, IIT Bombay, India. - Daniel Orwa Ochieng, School of Computing and Informatics in the University of Nairobi, Kenya. - Gerhard Weber, Technische Universität Dresden, Germany. Chair of IFIP WG 13.3 HCI and disabilities. - Panayiotis Zaphiris, Department of Multimedia and Graphic Arts. Cyprus University of Technology. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ WEBSITE AND CONTACT Additional and updated information can be found at the workshop website, at: http://sipt07.si.ehu.es/WS/RethinkingUA/ For further information, contact: - Julio Abascal [julio*abascal at ehu*es] or - Simone DJ Barbosa [simone at inf*puc-rio*br] (where asterisk is dot) </pre> Simone DJ Barbosa 2013-04-24T11:21:42 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.kde.devel.accessibility/2330 <pre> ----------------------------------------------------------- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/110104/ ----------------------------------------------------------- Review request for KDE Accessibility. Description ------- Add a "Test Bell" button to test the current Bell settings. This addresses bug 164111. http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=164111 Diffs ----- kcontrol/access/kcmaccess.h 4a7823f kcontrol/access/kcmaccess.cpp c4681d4 Diff: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/110104/diff/ Testing ------- Thanks, Christoph Feck _______________________________________________ kde-accessibility mailing list kde-accessibility&lt; at &gt;kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-accessibility </pre> Christoph Feck 2013-04-20T15:52:06 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.kde.devel.accessibility/2329 <pre>At-spi2-atk 2.8.1 is now available for download at: http://download.gnome.org/sources/at-spi2-atk/2.8/ What is AT-SPI2 =============== AT-SPI2 is a D-Bus based accessibility framework. It defines a D-Bus protocol for providing and accessing application accessibility information. The project includes a library for bridging the D-Bus protocol to the ATK API, allowing Gtk based applications to be made accessible. It also contains a client (AT) side library in C and a wrapper for Python. What's changed in at-spi2-atk 2.8.1 * Fix memory leak in socketadaptor.c (BGO#696733) * Fix a crash when handling a D-Bus method reply after deinitialization. Where can I get more information about AT-SPI2 ============================================== The project wiki is available at: http://www.a11y.org/d-bus How can I contribute to AT-SPI2? ================================ We need help testing with Gnome accessibility technologies, improving performance, and generally tying up loose ends. The above-referenced page contains a list of known issues that should be fixed. IRC : #a11y on Gimpnet E-Mail: accessibility-atspi&lt; at &gt;lists.linux-foundation.org Development repositories can be found at: git://git.gnome.org/pyatspi2 git://git.gnome.org/at-spi2-core git://git.gnome.org/at-spi2-atk </pre> Mike Gorse 2013-04-15T18:07:36 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.kde.devel.accessibility/2327 <pre> ----------------------------------------------------------- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/109977/ ----------------------------------------------------------- Review request for KDE Accessibility. Description ------- With reference to bug: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=145877 This is a patch which implements key modifiers to temporarily disable KMouseTools whenever user feel the need to do so. Users had filed the bug stating that KMouseTool does make them uncomfortable when they are browsing on net etc due to automated clicks. This patch provides a drop down menu to select a particular key out of 5 options, after which user can just hold that key to temporarily disable the automated mouse click. Diffs ----- kmousetool/kmousetool.h 245d3ef kmousetool/kmousetool.cpp ead190e kmousetool/kmousetoolui.ui e0e2ec3 kmousetool/main.cpp aa3a264 kmousetool/mtstroke.h f8a7563 kmousetool/mtstroke.cpp ad899f2 Diff: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/109977/diff/ Testing ------- Yes Thanks, Akshay Ratan _______________________________________________ kde-accessibility mailing list kde-accessibility&lt; at &gt;kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-accessibility </pre> Akshay Ratan 2013-04-12T15:22:56 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.kde.devel.accessibility/2325 <pre>Hello My name is Shawn Graham. I am a virtual infrastructure/network engineer and developer (mostly working with virtual environments, vpn and software routers). I have however on several occasions had to package things in the Debian format. I don't remember having allot of complications with the process. Your application is admittedly much more complex than what i was building however i would be more than willing to work up a virtual environment for doing this. I could automate most of this i would think. If im thinking this out correctly i could automate the git download and the dpkg build process and fire that off with a cron job. I have a few friends that have MS and similar diseases. I am trying to build them machines that will allow them to use the computer desktop. Im compiling 0.4 on a Ubuntu 12.04 vm. I'll let you know how it goes. I'm assuming if i can get it to compile i have all the necessary dev packages installed and should be able to package from the same machine. Give me a call or email back if you would like to discuss this more. 209-743-1034 shawnggraham&lt; at &gt;gmail.com Thanks, I hope to hear back from you! _______________________________________________ kde-accessibility mailing list kde-accessibility&lt; at &gt;kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-accessibility </pre> shawn graham 2013-04-12T05:30:22 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.kde.devel.accessibility/2315 <pre> ----------------------------------------------------------- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/109473/ ----------------------------------------------------------- Review request for KDE Accessibility. Description ------- If a job cannot connect to speech dispatcher it would have tried to connect again and again for ever. Stuck in a never ending loop. I have limited the loop to only 10 tries. Diffs ----- jovie/jovie.h 5f0c3b7 jovie/speaker.cpp 3aea565 Diff: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/109473/diff/ Testing ------- Thanks, Ovidiu-Florin Bogdan _______________________________________________ kde-accessibility mailing list kde-accessibility&lt; at &gt;kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-accessibility </pre> Ovidiu-Florin Bogdan 2013-03-13T22:50:34 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.kde.devel.accessibility/2308 <pre> ----------------------------------------------------------- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/109353/ ----------------------------------------------------------- Review request for KDE Accessibility. Description ------- Edited the kcmkttsmgr/talkerwidget.ui file. Set the Edit trigers for the list to: NoEditTriggers; Diffs ----- kcmkttsmgr/talkerwidget.ui 0387501 Diff: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/109353/diff/ Testing ------- Thanks, Ovidiu-Florin Bogdan _______________________________________________ kde-accessibility mailing list kde-accessibility&lt; at &gt;kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-accessibility </pre> Ovidiu-Florin Bogdan 2013-03-08T13:50:25 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.kde.devel.accessibility/2301 <pre>AT-SPI 2.7.5 is now available for download at: http://download.gnome.org/sources/at-spi2-core/2.7/ http://download.gnome.org/sources/at-spi2-atk/2.7/ http://download.gnome.org/sources/pyatspi/2.7/ What is AT-SPI2 =============== AT-SPI2 is a D-Bus based accessibility framework. It defines a D-Bus protocol for providing and accessing application accessibility information. The project includes a library for bridging the D-Bus protocol to the ATK API, allowing Gtk based applications to be made accessible. It also contains a client (AT) side library in C and a wrapper for Python. What's changed in AT-SPI 2.7.5 * Added ATSPI_ROLE_LEVEL_BAR to correspond with the new atk role. * Fixed various compiler warnings. Where can I get more information about AT-SPI2 ============================================== The project wiki is available at: http://www.a11y.org/d-bus How can I contribute to AT-SPI2? ================================ We need help testing with Gnome accessibility technologies, improving performance, and generally tying up loose ends. The above-referenced page contains a list of known issues that should be fixed. IRC : #a11y on Gimpnet E-Mail: accessibility-atspi&lt; at &gt;lists.linux-foundation.org Development repositories can be found at: git://git.gnome.org/pyatspi2 git://git.gnome.org/at-spi2-core git://git.gnome.org/at-spi2-atk </pre> Mike Gorse 2013-02-05T16:51:13 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.kde.devel.accessibility/2299 <pre>Hello Peter, I'm considering developing a Windows application for language teaching software. Is it possible to use Simon for that? Here are my questions: - do you have any API? what technology? - how can I build the software for Win7, Win8, maybe Win XP? Are there any guides/tutorials on that? - can Simon give a more extensive response in hearing a phrase, e.g. accent check, speaking fluency and alike Looking forward to your answer BR WW. </pre> Wlodek Wiszka 2013-02-04T14:38:13 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.kde.devel.accessibility/2297 <pre>I'd like to get Simon 0.4.0 working with Arch Linux which is a very popular rolling distribution. Simon is in the unsupport Arch User Repository right now at version 0.3.0, but I'd like to update it to 0.4.0 and want to have all my duck in a row. Do I need to require all of the Sphinx packages? (sphinxbase, pocketsphinx, sphinxtrain, sphinx4 and cmuclmtk) Do I need to require voxforge. The AUR has a voxforge-am-julius package that seems to be for the Julius speech system. Do I need to redo voxforge for simon, or is it not required for simon to function? Sorry about all the questions. I like the look of Simon and want to try it, but If I'm going to do it I might as well get it all working for others as well ;-) Thanks </pre> Mark Coolen 2013-02-01T14:39:01 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.kde.devel.accessibility/2292 <pre> Hi I am creating a shadow dictionary for Catalan language (another collaborator will do in Spanish) and I have doubts as to the format. (We are told that it will review a linguist.) I think this is correct, see below, but do not know how to add terminal information. Alcanó [Alcanó] a l k a n O Alcanar [Alcanar] a l k a n a r Alcarràs [Alcarràs] a l k a R A s alcista [alcista] a l c i s t a alcistes [alcistes] a l c i s t e s alcohòlica [alcohòlica] a l k o O- l i k a alcohòlic [alcohòlic] a l k o O- l i k Thank you for your help. Regards Toni </pre> Antoni Bella Pérez 2013-01-26T12:57:47 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.kde.devel.accessibility/2285 <pre>At-spi2-core 2.7.4 is now available for download at: http://download.gnome.org/sources/at-spi2-core/2.7/ What is AT-SPI2 =============== AT-SPI2 is a D-Bus based accessibility framework. It defines a D-Bus protocol for providing and accessing application accessibility information. The project includes a library for bridging the D-Bus protocol to the ATK API, allowing Gtk based applications to be made accessible. It also contains a client (AT) side library in C and a wrapper for Python. What's changed in AT-SPI 2.7.4 * [core] Fix some ref count leaks. * [core] Some functions that return accessibles now propagate errors. Where can I get more information about AT-SPI2 ============================================== The project wiki is available at: http://www.a11y.org/d-bus How can I contribute to AT-SPI2? ================================ We need help testing with Gnome accessibility technologies, improving performance, and generally tying up loose ends. The above-referenced page contains a list of known issues that should be fixed. IRC : #a11y on Gimpnet E-Mail: accessibility-atspi&lt; at &gt;lists.linux-foundation.org Development repositories can be found at: git://git.gnome.org/pyatspi2 git://git.gnome.org/at-spi2-core git://git.gnome.org/at-spi2-atk </pre> Mike Gorse 2013-01-14T23:31:30 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.kde.devel.accessibility/2283 <pre>Clicked on a mail from the ml admin to accept the review request e-mail and accidentally accepted the spam that came right after. My bad. BR, Jeremy _______________________________________________ kde-accessibility mailing list kde-accessibility&lt; at &gt;kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-accessibility </pre> Jeremy Whiting 2013-01-13T16:00:13 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.kde.devel.accessibility/2282 <pre>Dr. Paul 推薦的一雙好襪子 (Paul&lt; at &gt;yahoo.com)寄了一篇新聞給你 (未確認電子郵件住址) ------------------------------------------------------------ 私人訊息: 網友熱烈討論 Dr. Paul 口碑推薦一博士襪 根據日本專家研究顯示 腳是人的第二個心臟!! 愛惜你的腳-保護你的腳 《抗菌透氣》 《保暖舒適》 MIT品質保證與日本同級 擺脫尷尬的脫鞋時刻-等你來體驗!! 按下面Yahoo 部落格使用者見證 http://tw.myblog.yahoo.com/good-sox/article?mid=7 官方網站→點擊進入｜立即體驗 http://baid.us/jqun PaulYLZPHFZJEAHMDDX 除臭 + 抗菌 + 舒適 + 健康 ============================================================ YLZPHFZJEAHMDDX 請問有誰買過博士襪?使用過的感覺如何? - Yahoo!奇摩知識+ http://tw.knowledge.yahoo.com/question/question?qid=1512020203511 ============================================================ Yahoo!新聞 http://hk.news.yahoo.com/ _______________________________________________ kde-accessibility mailing list kde-accessibility&lt; at &gt;kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-accessibility </pre> mailbot< at >tw.knowledge.yahoo.com 2013-01-13T14:12:43 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.kde.devel.accessibility/2276 <pre>Howdy! I'm right now rolling up an APT package of simon 0.4 for SprezzOS, having rolled 4.9.4 packages for much of the rest of KDE today. SprezzOS 1 hopefully drops late tonight complete with an up-to-date KDE stack. Just letting you know because you asked on your Simon 0.4 announcement page :). Have a great 2013! The packaging materials will live here: https://github.com/dankamongmen/sprezzos-world/tree/master/packaging/simon feel free to share them. </pre> nick black 2013-01-01T12:43:29 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.kde.devel.accessibility/2274 <pre> Hello I found some messages with HTML tags that overlap the default font of the desktop. It might be true somewhere but in the screenshot (attached) I do not. &lt;body style=\" font-family:'DejaVu Sans'; font-size:9pt; font-" "weight:400; font-style:normal;\"&gt; simon -&gt; 2 messages simond -&gt; 2 messages simonlib -&gt; 1 message Another: Two configuration modules, with the translation well represented in the app but not in his System Settings module. wrong (nothing is translated): System Settings -&gt; Accessibility -&gt; Speech Model Compilation System Settings -&gt; Accessibility -&gt; KSimond correct: System Settings -&gt; Accessibility -&gt; Simond Regards Toni_______________________________________________ kde-accessibility mailing list kde-accessibility&lt; at &gt;kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-accessibility </pre> Antoni Bella Pérez 2012-12-23T12:34:14 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.kde.devel.accessibility/2266 <pre>AT-SPI 2.7.3 is now available for download at: http://download.gnome.org/sources/at-spi2-core/2.7/ http://download.gnome.org/sources/at-spi2-atk/2.7/ http://download.gnome.org/sources/pyatspi/2.7/ What is AT-SPI2 =============== AT-SPI2 is a D-Bus based accessibility framework. It defines a D-Bus protocol for providing and accessing application accessibility information. The project includes a library for bridging the D-Bus protocol to the ATK API, allowing Gtk based applications to be made accessible. It also contains a client (AT) side library in C and a wrapper for Python. What's changed in AT-SPI 2.7.3 * [core] Atspi_accessible_get_index_in_parent no longer returns -1 if the object's parent is not cached (BGO#688057). * [core/atk] Re-register applications and keystroke listeners if the registry goes away and then returns. * [core] Fix atspi_device_listener_new_simple. * [core] Fix some compiler warnings. * [core] Build: use gobject-introspection's Makefile instead of rolling our own. * [core] Fix a crash when parsing events without detail when there is a listener for the event that names a specific detail value. * [core] Fix crash when removing hung processes. * [core] Fix deregistering of applications. * [core] A few documentation fixes. * [atk] Stop using deprecated glib functions. * [atk] Fix a few memory leaks. Where can I get more information about AT-SPI2 ============================================== The project wiki is available at: http://www.a11y.org/d-bus How can I contribute to AT-SPI2? ================================ We need help testing with Gnome accessibility technologies, improving performance, and generally tying up loose ends. The above-referenced page contains a list of known issues that should be fixed. IRC : #a11y on Gimpnet E-Mail: accessibility-atspi&lt; at &gt;lists.linux-foundation.org Development repositories can be found at: git://git.gnome.org/pyatspi2 git://git.gnome.org/at-spi2-core git://git.gnome.org/at-spi2-atk </pre> Mike Gorse 2012-12-17T22:27:16 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.kde.devel.accessibility/2263 <pre>Hello. Anybody out there?  I;ve beeen ssubscribed for ar least  3 weeks and gaven;t seen a single message except for thr one I sent and nobody answerred. Bob S </pre> Bob Stia 2012-12-17T02:31:40 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.kde.devel.accessibility/2262 <pre>Hello KDE people, I am new to this list and hoping my first post will reach somebody. aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaai am legally blind and find it almost impossible to read very large fonts and type ccoherebtly. I eun two versions of openSSUSE. 11.3 with KDE3 aba 12.2 with LDE4. I have installed Festival and espeak on both systems. I have also installed mbrola and CMU voices (correcctly, I hope) on both systems. In 11.3 KDE3 uses KTTS with Feestival. In 12.2 KDE4 usea Jovie. Both work, but only with their own horrible barely intelligible voices. I cannot get KTTS to seee the espeak synthesizer nor Jovie to see the Festical synthesizer. Neither czn see the mbrola or CMU voices. It is important to me to get these TTS screen readerss working satisfactorily as my blindness progressees. Thank You Bob S </pre> Bob Stia 2012-12-13T01:15:27 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.kde.devel.accessibility/2257 <pre>Please ensure to CC - kwin&lt; at &gt;kde.org - kde-accessibility&lt; at &gt;kde.org - kde-artists&lt; at &gt;kde.org Attached, red is comments Target: "one size fits all" - no pixmaps / images - no gradients (both impact network performace) - no antialiasing (vesa enhanced ;-) - no shaping (makes compositing "expensive") - strong indication (accessibility, no compositing need) - relying on contrast, not colors (accessibility) - tabbing support - not looking entirely dull ;-) Notice that this is a few minutes inkscape sketch "text not centered" is not important ;-) Comments, suggests for improvement? Cheers, Thomas_______________________________________________ kde-accessibility mailing list kde-accessibility&lt; at &gt;kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-accessibility </pre> Thomas Lübking 2012-11-27T16:07:47 Search the mailing list at Gmane query http://search.gmane.org/?group=$group=gmane.comp.kde.devel.accessibility