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[OT] Apple Rant

Peter Haworth — 2012-05-26T04:45:03

Having a great Friday evening thanks to Apple.

Still in the throes of dealing with Apple Store submission for my app.  TO
register it, I have to upload at least one screenshot (why?).  No problem,
I have several created with the OS X ability to take screen shots and save
them on disk, used them for my web site.  Unfortunately, they're not
acceptable for upload to the Apple store according to the error message I
got - either wrong format, wrong resolution or wrong color scheme.  So
apparently screen shots made with Apples's own OS are not acceptable to the
Apple Store.

So I give up on that and think, OK, let's watch a movie through my new
AppleTV box.  Already watched several NetFlix movies with no problem.
 Ordered a movie.  After I've paid for it, I'm told a) it's only available
to watch for 24 hours, and b) it's gonna take nearly 6 hours to download.
 Leaving town tomorrow so no way I can watch this movie. How come NetFlix
can automatically adjust their download resolution to my Internet
connection speed but Apple can't?

Tried adjusting the AppleTV settings to a lower resolution - doesn''t
affect downloads already in progress and no way to cancel the download.
 Look for a phone number to cancel the order.  No phone number available.

Go to iTunes Store support on the web.  Everything is at snail's pace
because the movie download is taking over all my bandwidth.  Unplug the
AppleTV box.

Select "Express Lane" support, then AppleTV.  Get a web page headed Problem
Description with no enterable fields (this is using Safari, Apple's own web
browser).  Click the link for Exprsss Lane Support and get a web page that
lets me actually enter something;... you don't want to see what I had to
say.

Next week - gotta deal with sandboxing, Apple's answer to a problem that
hardly exists on Macs.  And I'm willing to fork over 30% of whatever sales
I make on the Apple Store for what?

Time for a goodnight glass of single mat Scotch - Glenfaclas 105, you can't
beat it

Pete
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Peter M. Brigham´s textlib.rev

Matthias Rebbe — 2012-05-25T21:26:12

Hi,

last year in summer Peter M. Brigham posted a download link to his  library textlib.rev. The download link is not working anymore. And unfortunately i lost the file.
Could someone help out? Or maybe Peter, if you read this, could you put it online again?

Regards,

Matthias
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Drag/Drop Cursor

Peter Haworth — 2012-05-25T17:37:19

I'm dragging and dropping stuff into a text field on a card so is handling
most of it for me.  I have one text field on the crad that I don;t want to
allow anything to be dropped on so I put an empty dragDrop handler in the
filed.  That works OK but the cursor still shows as the green plus arrow
indicating that stuff can be droipped into the field.

I can change the cursor of course but does anyone know of a suitable cursor
number to use for this situation?  Or somewhere I can get a list of all the
available cursors, other than the ones defined in the dictionary?

Thanks,

Pete
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xml files with LC

ron barber — 2012-05-25T14:31:10

Greetings,
I have been given several medium sized 3-5MB text files with lots of
xml tags that I need to parse into human readable, formatted text. Are
there any ways to deal with this 'automatically' or do I need to
interpret each tag with an equivalent format in LC? Any pointers for
accomplishing this would be appreciated.

Thanks
Ron

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what should be done with MobGUI?

Colin Holgate — 2012-05-25T13:24:21

In the book I've written I spend a good number of pages showing how to use MobGUI to get iOS looking controls, and native controls. I wrote it in such a way that once LiveCode had caught up feature wise on Android, the reader could easily deduce how to select the same controls for Android. Now that I'm down to rewriting bits of chapters to answer the comments made by the troublemaker book reviewers (you know who you are!), one request is to show Android screenshots, not just iOS ones.

That's a reasonable request, but unfortunately in the almost six months since I wrote the first bit on MobGUI, it has not been updated by even one hundredth of a version number. I'm not sure what I'll do in the book yet, maybe I'll put in an apology about the screenshots being all iOS.

Of course, it was a gamble to describe MobGUI so much. I took other gambles too, but those worked out because LiveCode itself caught up on Android. There is a difference between MobGUI and other add-ons, in that RunRev heavily promoted it, including having special pricing for LiveCode and MobGUI together. I personally bought MobGUI direct, but a lot of people bought it from RunRev as part of that deal.

So, if John has stopped developing MobGUI, or got tied up long term on other projects, would it be possible for RunRev to take it in house?
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Webifying livecode is a real mystery to me

Jim Schaubeck — 2012-05-25T04:05:09

So the revlet concept is not getting any more attention and revserver is great if you know 5 other programming languages to get it right.

I invested in livecode because of its web presence (actually it was the sales pitch of web apps that won me over). But I have officially given up on livecodesrevlet support.  Where does a livecode only person go from here if they want to be on the web?


Where does livecode sit with the web?  Revsever and all of it's simplicity might be the right answer for most guru's on this list but I'm 100% livecode...I don't have time to learn the other 5 languages?

 

                                                                                                                                                        
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lcTaskList Performance

Paul Looney — 2012-05-24T22:36:51

Bill,

I've been following the RunRev list comments about lcTaskList speed.

For what it is worth
1. I have 46 large stacks open on my desktop (just for testing, I don't work this way)
2. Some of these are substacks, most are main stacks
3. I have two large, 2000+ lines, stack scripts open in the Script Editor
4. The largest stack has 510 fields and 282 buttons
5. The largest stack script is 2327 lines of code
6. I'm guessing that, in open plugins, substacks, btns and flds, there are over 100,000 lines
7. I'm testing with and without the script editor open and the message box displayed
8. The TaskList is correctly displaying 23 FIXMEs

Updating the TaskList is almost instantaneous - too fast to time - certainly less than 2 seconds. Could not ask for better!

MacBook Pro, 2.2 GHz Core i7, 4 GB 1333 Mhz DD3, OS X 10.7.4

Paul Looney
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Gatekeeper

stephen barncard — 2012-05-24T22:32:12

Here's a piece written about Apple's gatekeeper by one of the coders at
Panic (creators of Coda) :

http://www.panic.com/blog/2012/02/about-gatekeeper/

Question about the "copy files" tab on the Standalone Settings

Andre Garzia — 2012-05-24T18:08:42

Hey Folks,

When I am building for mobile and use the "Copy Files" tab to add files to
my bundle, it always create the whole folder structure in the destination
engine folder. I know I can set the defaultfolder to the same place where
the files are and then add them without any referenced folder. I just
wanted to know if there is another way to place files there from different
folders and end up with all the files in the root engine folder.

Cheers
andre

[ANN] Little plugin stack uploaded to RevOnline

Andre Garzia — 2012-05-24T15:21:59

Folks,

I am sharing a little plugin that I use everyday. It is called FileDrag and
I don't remember if I shared it before. What it does it sit idle there and
when you move your mouse into it, it replaces the text field with the file
name of your topstack. Dragging the text field or the little file icon
causes the dragData["file"] to point to the effective filename of your
topstack. So this is just a handy tool to drag your topstack file into some
destination.

I use it mostly with Transmit or Interarchy to upload stack files. I drag
the topstack reference from filedrag, switch to my SFTP client and drop it
where I want to upload and it is done. Another use is to drag files to your
dropbox folder or to an email. You can drag from filedrag directly to GMail
(if you're using Firefox, Chrome or Safari).

Its available on RevOnline or
http://revonline2.runrev.com/stack/633/FileDrag

It is just a silly plugin but it makes me more productive.

Cheers
andre

[OT] Mac Classic

Richmond — 2012-05-24T14:28:40

This is very useful:

http://www.floodgap.com/software

for both machines running Mac OS "Classic" versions,

and for those of us using PPC Mac.

Richmond.

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Three-and-a-half ?

Richmond — 2012-05-24T13:11:28

At one time it was possible to download RR/LC 3.5 from the RunRev 
website; maybe it still is, but I am quite unable to find the link.

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[ANN] PDF reader added to mergExt

Monte Goulding — 2012-05-24T00:52:42

Hi LiveCoders

mergExt has grown again with a new external called mergReader to show a modal PDF reader using the vfrReader open source project. As this wasn't on the poll I haven't reset that but don't forget to vote for what you want next. More details at http://mergext.com

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I have a new Yahoo! email address

2012-05-23T22:01:16

Hi, I wanted to let you know that I have a brand new Yahoo! email address; jimschaubeck-/E1597aS9LRfmgfxC/sS/w< at >public.gmane.org  Please update your address book and send me emails at this new address from now on. Thanks!
Jim Schaubeck

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[Slightly OT} iOS

Graham Samuel — 2012-05-23T21:42:54

I am trying to get some beta testing done for a couple of iOS apps I'm developing. I am trying my best not to leave the LiveCode comfort zone, but this turns out to be impossible, and as usual I need help from those who've been there before.

Thanks to Scott Morrow and Guglielmo Braguglia on this list, I have been able to get the UDIDs of the devices of some new beta testers, and I've successfully added them to my provisioning profile using the Apple iOS Provisioning Profile pages. The next move is presumably to see these new devices in the Xcode Organizer, but they don't show up however many times I hit 'Refresh'. I suppose this means that these devices won't be included in the innards of the standalones which I want to send to my testers.

Has anyone seen this problem and if so, what was the solution? I am trying to find one within the Apple documentation and forums, but so far no luck at all.

TIA

Graham

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[OT] Saved by Dropbox Packrat

Andre Garzia — 2012-05-23T21:29:59

Folks,

I am a heavy Dropbox user and keep all my LiveCode stuff inside it. I've
been working with a stack for a while and then today I needed the old
version from a month ago with a completely different interface and
behavior. Thanks to Dropbox Packrat, I could "rewind" time and pick the old
version. Can't tell you guys how great it was to finally use it. I've been
a Dropbox Pro user for a long time and never needed Packrat, now, it just
paid itself.

For more info on Packrat: https://www.dropbox.com/help/113

Cheers
andre

iOS Splash Screen masks display

Graham Samuel — 2012-05-23T21:04:18

I'm developing an iPad app which has an iOS splash screen (they all do), which AFAIK is there in order to show itself until the app is fully loaded. I am not sure how iOS knows that the load is complete, but anyway I seem to have a problem about this.

My app has two stacks: the first has a startup handler that sets things going but is not displayed, and then hands over to the other stack. When the splash screen goes away, I want to show a particular card (say Card1) in the second stack, wait a short time and then move to another card (Card2) to allow the user to start work. I found that if I put a script like this into the first card:

on openCard
  wait 4 seconds
  go to "Card2"
end openCard

then the splash screen stays around for an extra 4 seconds, and the first thing the user sees is Card 2 - Card 1 is never visible. 

What did I do wrong and how can I get the result I want?

TIA

Graham

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Where is John Craig?

Björnke von Gierke — 2012-05-23T20:19:24

Seems people on the forum are in need fo MobGUI support...

http://forums.runrev.com/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=12031

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Best way to center grouped controls in a fullscreen standalone

tbodine — 2012-05-23T19:01:06

Hi all.

I am building a one-stack Windows standalone that sets itself to fullscreen,
but the controls on the card always shift to upper left. Need them centered
dynamically. So I grouped the controls as one. But still don't see how to
set that group to dynamically position in the center of screen. Am I missing
something obvious or is there a trick to this?

Thanks,
Tom Bodine


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[iOS] visual effect are not shown when using opencard

Matthias Rebbe — 2012-05-23T09:14:04

Hi,

i am using

lock screen FOR visual effect
go card "service"
unlock screen WITH visual effect "push left very fast"

in a mouseup handler to go to another card on iOS.

This works as long as i do not use some commands in the opencard handler of the target card.

If the opencard handler of the target card contains something like this

    if the environment is "mobile" then set the documents folder to "cache"

then the visual effect is not shown.

If i just have a put statement like

put 3 into a

then the visual effect is shown.

Are there some limitations i am not aware of?

Regards,

Matthias



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can someone please try this test...

Chipp Walters — 2012-05-23T04:29:28

in the msg box, copy and paste the line below:

put URL "
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/tq?tqx=out:csv&key=0AiQYsJmyjjz8dEJIT2VyamhRWWVEM3U0MGR1Y21nUUE
"

Please tell me if it returns anything. Thanks.