http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ide.revolution.user hourly 1 1901-01-01T00:00+00:00 http://gmane.org/img/gmane-25t.png http://gmane.org http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ide.revolution.user/117241 Could use some wisdom and a Scotch on this one. I am having problems with launch URL failing as the content string gets long. In my tests, when the total mailto argument resolves to between 1645 and 1980 characters, the launch fails with 'can't open file'. The character count varies, and no discernible pattern to anything that I can see. Any ideas? Is it an OS thing? I am on Windows XP, Rev 2.9.0. Mark _______________________________________________ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution-1W37MKcQCpJ21N0xZs15Ng< at >public.gmane.org Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Mark E. Powell 2008-12-03T23:27:01 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ide.revolution.user/117232 Has anyone else had a problem with either the imageData or snapshot capabilities in RR3.0? I am trying to run this script: I have one grc with a fill , one image object and one field. on mouseUp pMouseBtnNo export snapshot from grc "Fill 1" to grcVar set the imagedata of image "TEST" to grcVar set the imagesource of char 1 of line 1 of field "Sample" to image "TEST" end mouseUp Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software 3mcgrath-Wuw85uim5zDR7s880joybQ< at >public.gmane.org iTunes Library Suite - libITS Information and download can be found on this page: http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/RevOne.html _______________________________________________ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution-1W37MKcQCpJ21N0xZs15Ng< at >public.gmane.org Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Thomas McGrath III 2008-12-03T21:05:37 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ide.revolution.user/117231 Hi all, I announce that I start to write an externals that will brings enhanced features of Vista to Revolution. I hope that I will be able to achieve it. Of course it will be open-source (BSD license) and I will host it on Sourceforge. (If it work). Currently, I have a Transparent Blurry Window :) (I am so happy to just have it that I have to tell it to the list :D ) http://www.dam-pro.com/devel/Vista_Rev/Screenshot1.png This begins really excite me, I will continue to search in order to have an usable beautiful glass window ^^. Damien _______________________________________________ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution-1W37MKcQCpJ21N0xZs15Ng< at >public.gmane.org Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution GIRARD Damien 2008-12-03T20:42:30 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ide.revolution.user/117225 I'm doing a project in which I need to call a DOS shell script. It all works great, but the DOS terminal window briefly appears and disappears. This doesn't happen in OS X--the shell script just executes silently. Does anyone know if there is a way to get rid of the annoying DOS terminal window flash? (Win XP, Rev 3.0) Thanks, Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University _______________________________________________ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution-1W37MKcQCpJ21N0xZs15Ng< at >public.gmane.org Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Devin Asay 2008-12-03T20:10:09 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ide.revolution.user/117223 "Can you be more specific... I've never looked here before... Jim" By 'here' do you mean 'revOnline' ? Start up your copy of Runtime Revolution, look under the 'Development' menu item and click on 'Revolution Online' and, assuming that computer has internet access, you will be magically taken to Runtime Revolution's repository of user-authored stacks. revOnline is a bit like the Use-List; good in parts; however a bit of 'digging' can be rewarding in terms of finding solutions to common problems and starting points for projects. sincerely, Richmond Mathewson. ____________________________________________________________ A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. ____________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution-1W37MKcQCpJ21N0xZs15Ng< at >public.gmane.org Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Richmond Mathewson 2008-12-03T19:57:32 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ide.revolution.user/117221 I flung out the original Apple DVD drive from my G4 a few years ago (well it is 'enjoying' a second life in Razgrad, North Bulgaria in a COMPAQ Pentium 3 running Ubuntu) and replaced it with a TSSTcorp CD/DVDW that writes LightScribe CDs and DVDs - and I only use Hewlett Packard Lightscribe DVDs. These are a little bit more expensive than other optical materials, but they seem to be readable everywhere (Windows, Debian, Mac, RISC) and I can efficiently label the other sides of the discs. sincerely, Richmond Mathewson. ____________________________________________________________ A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. ____________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution-1W37MKcQCpJ21N0xZs15Ng< at >public.gmane.org Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Richmond Mathewson 2008-12-03T19:49:06 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ide.revolution.user/117220 Just uploaded a graphic-intensive stack (3.4 MB) to revOnline: "LOCATION.rev" - find it under 'Richmond' This is the seed of a stack I have developed for some of the EFL children I teach who are having quite some difficulty wrapping their brains round OPPOSITE, NEXT TO, BEHIND, ON THE RIGHT, ON THE LEFT, ON THE CORNER, and so on. Have bombarded them with toy houses and so on: eyes glaze over fairly quickly. Plonk the "little darlings" in front of the Ubuntu boxes, and 'WHAM' they feel empowered, and, more importantly, the learn the terms and how to use them. Sitting near them while they work at the computers one can even hear them sub-vocalising the vocabulary! Anybody who wants to use and/or adapt what I have uploaded is more than welcome. sincerely, Richmond Mathewson ____________________________________________________________ A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. ____________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution-1W37MKcQCpJ21N0xZs15Ng< at >public.gmane.org Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Richmond Mathewson 2008-12-03T19:38:53 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ide.revolution.user/117218 Hi all, I am playing with externals, and I want to try to add GUI features to Rev. I know how to write externals to interface libraries with Rev, but working on the GUI of Rev, I do not know anything at all for now. What I want to do is to retrieve the Window handler (on Windows) in order to add Windows Vista Aero effects. I read few articles that talks about how to use DWM of Vista, and the only things that it requires is a Window handler (HWND) in order to apply the glass effect. So, does anyone knows how to retrieve the HWND of a Revolution Window on Windows ? Regards, Damien _______________________________________________ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution-1W37MKcQCpJ21N0xZs15Ng< at >public.gmane.org Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution GIRARD Damien 2008-12-03T18:49:41 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ide.revolution.user/117210 Hello, How do you update a XMLNode? I don't find a "revUpdateXMLNode" Is the only way to update a XML Node with deleting and adding it? If I can delete a Node, why can't I update a Node? Thank you Tiemo _______________________________________________ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution-1W37MKcQCpJ21N0xZs15Ng< at >public.gmane.org Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Tiemo Hollmann TB 2008-12-03T10:50:12 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ide.revolution.user/117205 Hello, I have a zip file which I am extracting with: revZipOpenArchive tArchiv, read revZipExtractItemToFile tArchiv, tItem, tFile revZipCloseArchive tArchive very standard and that works fine, beside I can't delete the zip file after having extracted all items with delete URL. The result tells me "can't delete file". The result of ZipOpen and ZipExtract are empty, but the result of ZipClose tells me "ziperr,archive not open" Why? After quitting the Rev IDE I can delete the zip file manually. What am I missing, or is there any other option to force to close a file so, that I can delete it from Rev? Thanks for any hints Tiemo _______________________________________________ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution-1W37MKcQCpJ21N0xZs15Ng< at >public.gmane.org Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Tiemo Hollmann TB 2008-12-02T19:53:40 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ide.revolution.user/117199 [TT] - Totally Tangential. Speaking as a happily married person (just thinking about how that mucks up marriage statistics makes it even happier) both my wife and I would find it pretty tough to claim 100% authorship of anything; well, except in those arguments where she says that one of our sons is 100% like me :) As a person who doesn't feel to bad about plundering code (as well as shoving a lot of mine around for others to plunder) I can honestly say that my maximum input on anyone project is about 75%; even if the other 25% consisted of supplying hot drinks, keeping the kids out of the way, cooking meals, cleaning the house - I would have been hard-put to complete a lot of work without that support. So, whether Albert Einstein's wives were quiet geniuses spoon-feeding "stupid Bert", or whether they were "just" his support crew doesn't really matter: their contribution should be acknowledged. Skaespeare ripped-off everything, left, right, and centre: it is what he did with the material he gathered that constitutes genius. Of course there are Shakespearian 'scholars' (and those single quotes are meant to signify that they are a fairly worthless crowd) who worry about whether that wonderful turn of phrasing in Richard II's soliliquoy is 100% Shakespeare, or whether the first adjective was thought up by another lurking genius: does it matter? Not one wit: "The play's the thing!" "And so to a little coding" . . . to misquote that unsung hero of software development, Mr Samuel Pepys. sincerely, Richmond Mathewson. ____________________________________________________________ A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. ____________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution-1W37MKcQCpJ21N0xZs15Ng< at >public.gmane.org Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Richmond Mathewson 2008-12-02T16:49:55 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ide.revolution.user/117196 Hello all, Without going into great NDA busting detail, Mirye has picked up exclusive, worldwide rights to a 3D software product (Windows and Mac, both) which should be announced in time for MacWorld. Though Rev has little to do with 3D, Rev is a superior multimedia system for content aggregation. We've been getting Rev out through academic friendly sales channels, like Programmer's Paradise, Academic Superstore and even a small presence on Amazon. However Im exploring the content side of academic promotion, especially in context to Rev + Content (graphics, video, audio) since that seems to be a stronger emphasis in multimedia education now in K-12 (podcasting, video production, interactive web, etc) than programming as a "standalone" topic. Id like to assess interest for this in the Rev community and who all might be interested in a special interest group. Unfortunately I don't have any body parts to trade, but I may have a spare piece of Malte left after his big giveaway ;-) Best regards, Lynn Fredricks Mirye Software Publishing http://www.mirye.com Mirye Community NING http://miryesoftware.ning.com _______________________________________________ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution-1W37MKcQCpJ21N0xZs15Ng< at >public.gmane.org Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Lynn Fredricks 2008-12-02T16:30:03 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ide.revolution.user/117179 The questions are going to have answers - they may not be confined to stating the merits of the language, however. Like, it may be an answer to the question what if something happens to you, to reply that you have an arrangement with X in another city. The chances of trucks hitting both of you are negligible. On the issue of what happens if it goes the way of Hypercard, you may have answers on the lines of how easy it will be to convert to another environment, or how unlikely this is. All environments have things for the customer to worry about. Open Source, what happens if it goes off down a blind alley like KDE4 appeared to be doing for several months? What happens if fashions change and everyone moves to the new flavor? Just because they have legitimate concerns, and they are concerns specific to Rev perhaps, does not mean they will not see that its still a good choice for them, if the situation is explained clearly. Peter _______________________________________________ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution-1W37MKcQCpJ21N0xZs15Ng< at >public.gmane.org Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Peter Alcibiades 2008-12-02T09:10:20 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ide.revolution.user/117178 Hello When a "put URL tUrl into URL ("binfile:" & tFile)" fails, e.g. because the target file already exists and is in use, I don't get an error, it just doesn't replace the file. Also trying to "try - put - catch" doesn't throws me an error. Are there any other approaches to verify, if the result of a put into url is ok? Thanks Tiemo _______________________________________________ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution-1W37MKcQCpJ21N0xZs15Ng< at >public.gmane.org Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Tiemo Hollmann TB 2008-12-02T08:53:19 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ide.revolution.user/117177 Hi freinds, the subject says it all :-/ Please tell me that I am overlooking something obvious!!!! Regards Klaus Major klaus-luITrbk85MeELgA04lAiVw< at >public.gmane.org http://www.major-k.de _______________________________________________ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution-1W37MKcQCpJ21N0xZs15Ng< at >public.gmane.org Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Klaus Major 2008-12-02T08:44:38 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ide.revolution.user/117176 The question is not going to be asked in a vacuum. You have to find out what the specific concern is, if there is one. It may be just an item on a check list. Or it may be related to policy on having control of the application in various circumstances, maintainability and so on. Whatever, you have to find out what they really want to know. I bet that 90% of the time, when this question is asked, and the answer 'C++' is given, that is not the end of the matter either, but that questions about maintainability, source archiving, documentation start being asked. On the open source issue, the customer is being asked to make a bet. He is committing to an application written in a language that is (1) closed source (2) a minority language. It may be a great bet, the risk reward ratio may be brilliant, but that is what it is. There will be some customers who feel uneasy about this. They may essentially be asking questions about, what happens if you the programmer get hit by a truck tomorrow. And what happens if Rev the company goes bust and the language does not find a buyer to maintain it? What happens if it goes the way of Hypercard? I suspect if the dialogue gets serious on the topic of the language, these are the concerns you have to answer. But only start in on this when satisified that this is the issue, there is no point in suggesting difficulties. Peter _______________________________________________ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution-1W37MKcQCpJ21N0xZs15Ng< at >public.gmane.org Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Peter Alcibiades 2008-12-02T08:37:35 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ide.revolution.user/117172 Max: Could you please contact me off-list at katheryn.swynford-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w< at >public.gmane.org? We met at RevConWest this year and I've lost track of your math program (my husband's the mathematician). Kindest thanks, Judy Perry http://revined.blogspot.com _______________________________________________ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution-1W37MKcQCpJ21N0xZs15Ng< at >public.gmane.org Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Judy Perry 2008-12-02T05:43:32 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ide.revolution.user/117161 Hi, how would be the appropriate way if there is, to work with SQLite remotely? Hershel Fisch _______________________________________________ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution-1W37MKcQCpJ21N0xZs15Ng< at >public.gmane.org Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution hershel fisch 2008-12-02T02:16:36 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ide.revolution.user/117157 Dear Robert Brenstein, there was no "apparently" about things, I wrote what I wrote. However, just to throw another spanner in the works:- The very few times people ask me how I make my programs I state that I use: "Runtime Revolution, a complete programming package." No 'language', 'IDE', 'GUI', and so on, os mentioned; probably because most people seem perfectly satisfied with that answer. The few who are not satisfied get treated to 30 minutes of my demonstrating RR, and 30 minutes while I go away and let them play with RR. The end result is either "Wow!" or "I don't understand how computers work anyway." As I have spent 90% of my adult life outwith my country of origin the word 'Transcript' will always be linked in my mind with standing in queues at embassies and various other state institutions with academic transcript with stamps, seals, apostils and much, much more. sincerely, Richmond Mathewson. ____________________________________________________________ A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. ____________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution-1W37MKcQCpJ21N0xZs15Ng< at >public.gmane.org Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Richmond Mathewson 2008-12-01T22:22:20 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ide.revolution.user/117152 "Transcript is a good name for the language." No it isn't because it has no obvious link with Runtime Revolution. "Maybe Transit would be good for the IDE. It certainly gets you from one place to another." 2 rather nebulous names could give an extremely nebulous idea! Now 'Runtime Revolution' is an extremely punchy name, so the programming language need something similarly punchy as a name: Revolt ? sincerely, Richmond Mathewson. ____________________________________________________________ A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. ____________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution-1W37MKcQCpJ21N0xZs15Ng< at >public.gmane.org Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Richmond Mathewson 2008-12-01T21:18:24 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ide.revolution.user/117149 Hey-Ho: What I wrote was: "Personally I like "xTalk", so why not call the Runtime Revolution dialect RexTalk ?" Nothing like selective quoting (or quoting myself, come to that)! The reason I would favour 'RexTalk' or 'RevTalk' is that, while showing that the programming language is linked to Runtime Revolution it, also, shows its history (its etymology, if you will). I am well aware that 'xTalk' is a generic term covering HyperTalk and the family of derived dialects such as SuperTalk, MetaTalk and the strangely nameless dialect we are all scratching our heads about in this Use-List discussion. However as 'xTalk' includes Runtime Revolution's programming language amongst its dialects why not have a name for it that indicates that relationship? I am aware that there is a lot of slightly misplaced snobbery about using 'Code' rather than 'Talk', as 'Talk' is somehow perceived as babyish, while 'Code' is a hairy-chested word used by 'real' programmers. However, I, at the tender age of 46, am past the type of adolescent posturing that worries about the comparatively empty semantics behind 'Code' and 'Talk' - come to think of it, I noticed that some of my chest hairs have turned white just the other day :) 'RevTalk' or 'RexTalk' would suit me fine; but I feel that 'endless fruitless discussion' might not. sincerely, Richmond Mathewson. ____________________________________________________________ A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. ____________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution-1W37MKcQCpJ21N0xZs15Ng< at >public.gmane.org Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Richmond Mathewson 2008-12-01T20:50:00 Search the mailing list at Gmane query http://search.gmane.org/?group=$group=gmane.comp.ide.revolution.user