http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ide.eclipse.orion.devel hourly 1 1901-01-01T00:00+00:00 http://gmane.org/img/gmane-25t.png http://gmane.org http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ide.eclipse.orion.devel/1912 <pre>Tip #5: More on role="application", role="document" and role="presentation" If you are creating a complex custom control and you have implemented and tested its keyboard interaction, and then you try a screen reader and find that the screen reader consumes arrow keys or other keys that your control needs for interaction... then you *may* need to set role="application" on the element containing your custom control. Besides being a landmark role, "application" tells the screen reader to pass user keystrokes through, so that your javascript has access to them. Many screen readers have 2 modes of operation: "document/browse mode" and "forms/focus mode". In browse mode, the screen reader consumes keystrokes like arrow keys and letter keys so that the user can use them to navigate through the document's content. In forms mode, the screen reader passes many of these keys through to the browser and the javascript. Forms mode is entered automatically when an interactive native HTML element or ARIA-enabled element gets focus. CAVEAT EMPTOR: role="application" is a last resort. First, try to avoid it by considering the following: - Make sure that your custom control is using the most semantically appropriate role. Is it very much like a tree? Then using role="tree" tells the screen reader which keys you (probably) need and it will pass those keys through. - If your custom control contains non-focusable child elements that a screen reader user might typically use arrow keys to navigate to, for example table cells, then you may also need to turn off the semantics of these child elements by using role="presentation". (More on role="presentation" in another tip). - Note that if you use role="application", then you will not get any free keyboard interaction behavior when a screen reader is running, so you need to handle all keystrokes yourself. You may be able to set role="document" on certain child elements of your custom control to regain the free navigation behavior for those child elements. Also, before using role="application", read through these specs and relevant articles: http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-practices/#kbd_layout_impact http://rawgithub.com/w3c/aria-in-html/master/index.html#using-aria-role-application http://www.marcozehe.de/2012/02/06/if-you-use-the-wai-aria-role-application-please-do-so-wisely/ http://www.netmagazine.com/features/aria-s-application-role Car</pre> Carolyn MacLeod 2013-05-23T15:00:39 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ide.eclipse.orion.devel/1907 <pre>Hi Team, I would like to introduce myself as a new participant on the Orion Project. I have joined the team of Orion developers here in Kanata, Ontario, Canada. Some of you may recognize me from my Eclipse background on various modeling projects like GMF and GEF, but most of my time the last few years have been spent on various products at IBM Rational Software. I have a question about setting up a development environment for debugging the Orion server. I was able to follow http://wiki.eclipse.org/Orion/Getting_the_source#Local_computer_with_Eclipse_IDE and get a local self host with the client and server code running on my Linux machine, but I am having a problem getting the source bundles for the dependencies (the jetty source, javax.* source, org.apache.* source, etc, etc.). Is there an easy way to get the source bundles for all the dependencies? Cheers... Anthony </pre> Anthony Hunter 2013-05-22T19:05:17 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ide.eclipse.orion.devel/1904 <pre>Hi, While playing with orions "clone from git repository" functionality I found out my local orion instance clones from URLs like 'file:/home/user/dondalfi'. With that I get access to all git repos hosted on the machine running the orion server. That's a security hole, or? Is it only that my local orion which can do that or is it also true for orionhub.org? Ciao Chris </pre> Halstrick, Christian 2013-05-16T12:40:21 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ide.eclipse.orion.devel/1903 <pre>Tip #4: Use HTML5 section elements and ARIA landmark roles to semantically organize pages. HTML5 introduced 8 semantic sectioning elements [1] to help define areas of a web page: &lt;header&gt;, &lt;nav&gt;, &lt;section&gt;, &lt;article&gt;, &lt;aside&gt;, &lt;figcaption&gt;, &lt;figure&gt;, &lt;footer&gt;, (and new in 5.1 &lt;main&gt;) Some of these are now supported by the major browsers and screen readers. ARIA has 8 landmark roles [2] to help define semantic areas of a web page: application, banner, complementary, contentinfo, form, main, navigation, search These are all supported by the major browsers and screen readers. Screen reader users can list - and navigate to - landmark regions; and the name and type of landmark is announced when the user enters and leaves it. Some browsers support landmark navigation without a screen reader, either through a setting or a plugin. Be sure to give your landmark regions a name, either with aria-label="Invisible name" or aria-labelledby="visible_name_element_id". Usually the best visible_name_element for a landmark region is a &lt;heading&gt; or &lt;h1&gt;. Some of the section elements and landmark roles overlap, and (as of this writing) doubling these up will give best results. Here are some samples: &lt;main id="main"&gt; for the main content of the page, &lt;header role="banner"&gt; for the masthead of the site, &lt;nav role="navigation"&gt; for each list of navigation links, &lt;form role="search"&gt; for a search form, &lt;form role="form"&gt; for a form, &lt;aside role="complementary"&gt; for related information in a sidebar, &lt;footer role="contentinfo"&gt; for copyright and contact info at the bottom, &lt;article role="article"&gt; for an article, &lt;div role="application"&gt; for a complex custom control (more on this in tip #5), &lt;section role="region"&gt; for a region that doesn't have any of the above semantics. Here are 7 steps to guide you through the thought process for breaking your page into semantic regions: http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-practices/#kbd_layout_landmarks Car [1] http://www.w3schools.com/html/html5_semantic_elements.asp [2] http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria/roles#landmark_roles</pre> Carolyn MacLeod 2013-05-16T06:07:55 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ide.eclipse.orion.devel/1900 <pre> Deployed to orion.eclipse.org - A message about some changes from Libing: Please go to the settings-&gt; git settings to reset the git user name and email. The previous information stored in the user profile is no longer used Ken Walker Co-Lead Eclipse Orion Project | Tools for the Web, On the Web http://orionhub.org | http://wiki.eclipse.org/Orion &lt; at &gt;kwalker | &lt; at &gt;orionhub ----- Forwarded by Ken Walker/Ottawa/IBM on 2013/05/15 10:00 AM ----- From: e4Build-j9T/66MeVpFAfugRpC6u6w&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org To: orion-releng-j9T/66MeVpFAfugRpC6u6w&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org, Date: 2013/05/14 11:28 PM Subject: [orion-releng] Orion Build : I20130514-2230 Sent by: orion-releng-bounces-j9T/66MeVpFAfugRpC6u6w&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org See here for the build results: I20130514-2230 The build contains the following changes: + Bug 399023 - CBI (Maven/Tycho) based build for Orion (NEW) + Bug 406810 - [sidebar] Renaming/deleting current file in sidebar navigator causes trouble (FIXED) + Bug 407669 - Trying to save a deleted file pops up strange message. (FIXED) + Bug 408053 - Project copy/move fails with server context path (FIXED) + Bug 408065 - Server: Cloning a git repository to use the user name and email passed from the client side. (FIXED) The following projects have changed: org.eclipse.orion.client.core org.eclipse.orion.client.editor org.eclipse.orion.client.git org.eclipse.orion.client.ui org.eclipse.orion.client.users org.eclipse.orion.server.core org.eclipse.orion.server.git org.eclipse.orion.server.servlets org.eclipse.orion.server.tests pom.xml Test Results Test # Tests Failure Errors Success Rate Time s JS Tests - Chrome 12 1478 0 0 100.00% 38.192 JS Tests - Firefox 17.0 1476 0 0 100.00% 29.007 JS Tests - Chrome Windows DNF JUnit Tests: Server Tests 313 0 3 99.04% 257.465 _______________________________________________ orion-releng mailing list orion-releng-j9T/66MeVpFAfugRpC6u6w&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org http://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/orion-releng </pre> Ken Walker 2013-05-15T14:02:19 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ide.eclipse.orion.devel/1899 <pre> "Polymer - A new web framework by Google designed to leverage the evolving web platform." . http://polymer-project.appspot.com McQ. .</pre> Mike Wilson 2013-05-15T14:00:44 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ide.eclipse.orion.devel/1898 <pre>Tip #3: Every focusable element needs a name. When an element gets focus, screen readers ask the browser for the element's name (aka label) so that it can be spoken aloud or rendered on a Braille display. You can specify an element's name in several ways: 1) If the element has innerHTML and if it's a type of element that can use content as its name, i.e. &lt;button&gt;Name&lt;/button&gt;, then give it a good name and you're done. 2) If there's a visible element that can be used as a label, then use the aria-labelledby attribute to use the text from the other element for the name (you can actually concatenate text from multiple elements). 3) If there's no visible element to use as a label, you can provide a name string with aria-label. 4) Provide &lt;label&gt; for &lt;input&gt; elements. 5) Provide alt text if the element is an &lt;img&gt; or other object that supports alt. 6) Optionally provide a title. For grins, here is the somewhat complex algorithmic advice given to "User Agents" (aka browsers) for computing the name of an element: http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-implementation/Overview.html#mapping_additional_nd_te Car</pre> Carolyn MacLeod 2013-05-15T07:02:31 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ide.eclipse.orion.devel/1897 <pre>Tip #2: Adding or augmenting the semantics of HTML elements with WAI-ARIA* You can fine-tune the semantics of HTML elements by adding ARIA roles, states, and properties in order to make them more accessible. The ARIA Authoring Practices "Design Patterns" table specifies the expected keyboard interaction and ARIA roles, states, and properties you should use to implement many common design patterns: http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-practices/#aria_ex Take a look at the list of design pattern names (37 as of this writing) and then look at a couple of them in detail, for example, menubutton and menu: http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-practices/#menubutton http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-practices/#menu * WAI-ARIA: Web Accessibility Initiative - Accessible Rich Internet Applications </pre> Carolyn MacLeod 2013-05-14T03:59:58 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ide.eclipse.orion.devel/1896 <pre>Tip #1: Whenever possible, use semantically appropriate "native" HTML elements instead of &lt;div&gt; and &lt;span&gt;. You can style them to get the look you want, and augment them to get the semantics and behavior you need. As a bonus, this is usually a lot less work! For example, use &lt;button&gt; instead of... &lt;div role="button" tabindex="0"&gt; and changing styles onmouseover/out/down/up and onfocus/blur/keydown/keyup. Even if the native semantics are only "close", it is usually better to start native and augment (as long as you don't *change* any behavior). For example, start with &lt;ul&gt; and &lt;li&gt; for a tree and its tree items, or a menu and its menu items. This way, even if you do nothing else, a screen reader user will know that these items are grouped in a logical manner. (Of course, you have to keep your DOM consistent too, i.e. use nested &lt;ul&gt; for new branches of the tree instead of using CSS to move them into place). Take a minute to scroll through the Table of Contents for section 4 "The elements of HTML" in the draft HTML5.1 spec: http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/ and search (Ctrl+F) for "the elements". For more on the semantics of HTML elements and how to augment them with ARIA, see the next Web Accessibility Tip of the Day. Car</pre> Carolyn MacLeod 2013-05-10T20:18:23 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ide.eclipse.orion.devel/1895 <pre>Hi my name is Chris Conley I'm a student at Brock University in Canada, and I know I'm kind of doing this backwards but I have applied for GSoC at the last minute for the Git Blame project and wanted to introduce myself. I guess this is geared towards Ken Walker since he would be the possible mentor. I was previously working on UCOSP with Andrew Ross on CBI, and I know Ken that you had 2 students working with you: Cameron and Sarah, so I have heard a lot about you. I was discussing doing a proposal earlier with Andrew in a different area of Eclipse(CBI) but it fell through at the last minute because of his crazy schedule, so I wrote a proposal for the Git Blame idea during the middle of the nightThursday, so I didn't have much time to introduce myself before the due date. I have been subscribed to the Orion mailing list for a few months just laying low since I thought I would apply through CBI and I saw that no one has mentioned this project, plus I think I could do some really cool and useful things with it. I know I've kind of done this backwards, proposal than introduction, so the slim chance of acceptance could be slimmer but I had to try! Thanks for your time. Chris </pre> Chris Conley 2013-05-05T09:05:08 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ide.eclipse.orion.devel/1894 <pre> Search is now available in the hamburger pane after you reload the plugins. Ken Walker Co-Lead Eclipse Orion Project | Tools for the Web, On the Web http://orionhub.org | http://wiki.eclipse.org/Orion &lt; at &gt;kwalker | &lt; at &gt;orionhub ----- Forwarded by Ken Walker/Ottawa/IBM on 2013/05/02 05:24 PM ----- |------------&gt; | From: | |------------&gt; &gt;--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |e4Build-j9T/66MeVpFAfugRpC6u6w&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org | &gt;--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |------------&gt; | To: | |------------&gt; &gt;--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |orion-releng-j9T/66MeVpFAfugRpC6u6w&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org, | &gt;--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |------------&gt; | Date: | |------------&gt; &gt;--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |2013/05/02 05:18 PM | &gt;--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |------------&gt; | Subject: | |------------&gt; &gt;--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |[orion-releng] Orion Build : I20130502-1622 | &gt;--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |------------&gt; | Sent by: | |------------&gt; &gt;--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| |orion-releng-bounces-j9T/66MeVpFAfugRpC6u6w&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org | &gt;--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| See here for the build results: I20130502-1622 The build contains the following changes: The following projects have changed: org.eclipse.orion.client.editor org.eclipse.orion.client.ui Test Results Test # Tests Failure Errors Success Rate Time s JS Tests - Chrome 12 1478 0 0 100.00% 38.189 JS Tests - Firefox 17.0 1476 0 0 100.00% 29.175 JS Tests - Chrome Windows DNF JUnit Tests: Server Tests 308 0 1 99.68% 261.288 _______________________________________________ orion-releng mailing list orion-releng-j9T/66MeVpFAfugRpC6u6w&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org http://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/orion-releng </pre> Ken Walker 2013-05-02T21:26:01 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ide.eclipse.orion.devel/1893 <pre>Hello, I am Alim, a master's student from Bangladesh. I have known about this project from the Eclipse's Ideas page for Google Summer of Code (GSoC) 2013. I am interested in working on the project as a part of the GSoC program. I have already read the Mailing list archives for gathering detail information about the project and have almost prepared the project proposal. However, I am stuck with a few points and thus can not complete it. In one of the replies, Ken has said - " Enhancements include allowing multiple destination plugin sites". What I have came to understand by reading this line is that plugin developers will expose their plugins via web services. There will be an Enterprise Service Bus (ESB) which will keep track of those services and the "getplugins()" extension will communicate with the ESB. Am I thinking in a complicated way? Please do clarify. In the same reply Ken has also mentioned - "allowing groups of plugins to be installed together vs. individually". Does it mean that the plugins will be associated with some metadata and based on that suggestions will be provided to install the related plugins during the installation of a single one? Or does it indicate that user can pick a set of plugins by putting tick marks on them and then install all at once? Or both? Moreover, I need clarifications on the following points- - Do the plugins are associated with metadata such as category, based on which filters can be applied? - Can the student get a chance to work with the server side technologies or s/he has to work only with HTML, CSS and JavaScript? - If the student can get a chance to work on the server side then what will be the technology (like J2EE) that s/he has to work with? I am hoping for a reply soon. Thank you. Alim Ul Gias Master's Student Institute of Information Technology, University of Dhaka Dhaka, Bangladesh </pre> Alim Ul Gias 2013-05-01T11:51:11 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ide.eclipse.orion.devel/1892 <pre>Dear Ken, I am Alim, a master's student from Bangladesh. I have known about this project from the Eclipse's Ideas page for Google Summer of Code (GSoC) 2013. I am interested in working on the project as a part of the GSoC program. I have already read the Mailing list archives for gathering detail information about the project and have almost prepared the project proposal. However, I am stuck with a few points and thus can not complete it. In one of your replies, you have said - " Enhancements include allowing multiple destination plugin sites". What I have came to understand by reading this line is that plugin developers will expose their plugins via web services. There will be an Enterprise Service Bus (ESB) which will keep track of those services and the "getplugins()" extension will communicate with the ESB. Am I thinking in a complicated way? Please do clarify. In the same reply you have also mentioned - "allowing groups of plugins to be installed together vs. individually". Does it mean that the plugins will be associated with some metadata and based on that suggestions will be provided to install the related plugins during the installation of a single one? Or does it indicate that user can pick a set of plugins by putting tick marks on them and then install all at once? Or both? Moreover, I need clarifications on the following points- - Do the plugins are associated with metadata such as category, based on which filters can be applied? - Can the student get a chance to work with the server side technologies or s/he has to work only with HTML, CSS and JavaScript? - If the student can get a chance to work on the server side then what will be the technology (like J2EE) that s/he has to work with? I have seen that you are replying all those emails related to Orion App Store for GSoC and thus hoping that you will also reply in this case. Best Regards, Alim Ul Gias Master's Student Institute of Information Technology, University of Dhaka Dhaka, Bangladesh </pre> Alim Ul Gias 2013-04-30T20:39:23 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ide.eclipse.orion.devel/1891 <pre> Bogdan has been working on some great new editor features and is really becoming proficient with the code there. 3.0 will have some great features contributed by Bogdan and Silenio (Bogdenio). Welcome! Ken Walker Co-Lead Eclipse Orion Project | Tools for the Web, On the Web http://orionhub.org | http://wiki.eclipse.org/Orion &lt; at &gt;kwalker | &lt; at &gt;orionhub </pre> Ken Walker 2013-04-29T14:03:05 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ide.eclipse.orion.devel/1890 <pre>eclipse.orion Committers, This automatically generated message marks the completion of all the legal paperwork and webmaster provisioning for Bogdan Gheorghe. Bogdan Gheorghe is a new full Committer on the eclipse.orion project. Welcome! </pre> portal on behalf of Simon Kaegi 2013-04-29T13:54:01 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ide.eclipse.orion.devel/1886 <pre>eclipse.orion Committers, This automatically generated message marks the PMC's approval of the vote for Bogdan Gheorghe's full Committer status on the eclipse.orion project. The next step is for the project lead to return to the portal and fill in the VCS package and employer information for Bogdan Gheorghe. The PMC's comments were: Welcome! If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact your project lead, PMC member, or the EMO &lt;emo-j9T/66MeVpFAfugRpC6u6w&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt; </pre> portal on behalf of portal-noreply 2013-04-26T06:52:01 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ide.eclipse.orion.devel/1885 <pre>eclipse.orion Committers, This automatically generated message marks the successful completion of voting for Bogdan Gheorghe to receive full Committer status on the eclipse.orion project. The next step is for the PMC to approve this vote, followed by the EMO processing the paperwork and provisioning the account. Vote summary: 11/0/0 with 11 not voting +1 John Arthorne ? Boris Bokowski ? Szymon Brandys +1 Andrew Clement ? Kris De Volder ? Andrew Eisenberg +1 Grant Gayed ? Felipe Heidrich ? Nayna Jain ? Malgorzata Janczarska +1 Simon Kaegi ? Max Li +1 Mark Macdonald +1 Anton McConville ? Susan McCourt +1 Andrew Niefer +1 Silenio Quarti ? Mihai Sucan +1 Ken Walker +1 Libing Wang +1 Mike Wilson ? Tomasz Zarna If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact your project lead, PMC member, or the EMO &lt;emo-j9T/66MeVpFAfugRpC6u6w&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org&gt; </pre> portal on behalf of 2013-04-26T04:01:02 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ide.eclipse.orion.devel/1884 <pre> http://wiki.eclipse.org/Orion/Meeting_minutes/20130425 We have been having issues with the Eclipse VOIP Bridge on several calls. Garbled voices, and today we could not call in at all. Szymon could but we just got a busy wait. We might have to look into alternatives like a Google hangout but that will involve us finding a good speaker/microphone setup for the Ottawa team. Ken Walker Co-Lead Eclipse Orion Project | Tools for the Web, On the Web http://orionhub.org | http://wiki.eclipse.org/Orion &lt; at &gt;kwalker | &lt; at &gt;orionhub </pre> Ken Walker 2013-04-25T20:28:36 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ide.eclipse.orion.devel/1878 <pre> We'll keep re-dialing during the meeting to see if it comes back up Ken Walker Co-Lead Eclipse Orion Project | Tools for the Web, On the Web http://orionhub.org | http://wiki.eclipse.org/Orion &lt; at &gt;kwalker | &lt; at &gt;orionhub </pre> Ken Walker 2013-04-25T15:06:29 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ide.eclipse.orion.devel/1877 <pre>Hello, My name is Hiroyuki, I am an undergraduate student from University of Aizu in Japan. It's nice to meet you. Recently, I am interested in Web IDE such as Orion, Cloud9 and etc..., because I have just been attempting to develop such application with my friends. It is still in the planning stage, but we were discussing its developing plan again and again, so I have thought over about Web IDE's implementations. However its project is under only student programmers, it has wishful thinkings. Actually, when I looked over the Orion's source code on GitHub, I realized that there are many things that I got lost on my project. # Google Summer of Code 2013 In this summer, I would like to work for the Orion project as the GSoC project. Through working, I want to cultivate a better understanding about Web IDE. From the ideas page, I found the idea ""Improve the Orion styling framework and add additional languages"", and I am interested in it. Is it OK to apply to GSoC 2013 for that? I'm concerned that I might be late. # Question If it is OK, I have a question. About the first part of the idea is said that "to add support to the built in styler for HTML and mixed-mode". To confirm my recognition of the task, I would like to ask you the following question: For example, ``` &lt;html&gt; &lt;head&gt; ... &lt;script&gt; {A JavaScript code} &lt;/script&gt; ... &lt;style&gt; {A CSS code} &lt;/style&gt; ... ``` if there is the above, then Orion's Text Editor should style each part of HTML, JS and CSS by appropriate styles(such as coloring, etc...) respectively. However, it hasn't yet been implemented the styling features that can do that, so we need to implement it. It is the first task of that idea, isn't it? That is all. Thank you. </pre> Hiroyuki Sano 2013-04-25T12:13:13 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ide.eclipse.orion.devel/1876 <pre>Hi Orion Developers, Is it possible to tweak the default mapping generation (Projects, Users, Workspaces) to follow the file structure like: &lt;root&gt;/ /user1 /workspace1 (metadata) /project1 (metadata) /project2 (metadata) /workspace2 (metadata) /project1 (metadata) /project2 (metadata) /user2 /workspace1 (metadata) /project1 (metadata) /project2 (metadata) The guid-like generation then will be as a feature, which can be switched on/off. This will give great flexibility for those who wants to integrate with Orion at lowest level (file system) reliably. Also the remapping at every request as well as the mapping management (bottleneck) itself can be disabled, if it is not needed. What do you think? Regards, Nedelcho </pre> Delchev, Nedelcho 2013-04-25T09:32:43 Search the mailing list at Gmane query http://search.gmane.org/?group=$group=gmane.comp.ide.eclipse.orion.devel