http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.general hourly 1 1901-01-01T00:00+00:00 http://gmane.org/img/gmane-25t.png http://gmane.org http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.general/9564 <pre>Hi, I'd like to use the emacs dbus interface to make emacs-server prompt me to save all unsaved data (buffers) and then close itself when I try to logout from my gnome session. i.e. I'd like to catch a signal announcing the logout, and, in case there is unsaved data, ask the sessionmanager to interrupt the logout procedure while the user is asked to save his data, and then give the sessionmanager permission to continue the logout procedure. I believe the proper way to do it would be to implement the interface org.gnome.SessionManager.Client and subscribing to the messages of org.gnome.SessionManager.ClientPrivate? If this is so, what is the sequence of messages to interact with the SessionManager? I've found some documentation at http://people.gnome.org/~mccann/gnome-session/docs/gnome-session.html#org.gnome.SessionManager.ClientPrivate , but I'm not sure if it's fully up to date. There it is stated that the Client should not attempt to interact with the user when receiving QueryEndSession or EndSession signals. So maybe there is another way to achieve what I want? Thanks, Thomas </pre> Thomas Danckaert 2012-05-24T17:08:18 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.general/9563 <pre>Hello I do not know English very well, so hastily translated the text through google.com.Original in Russian is below. In this letter I would like to say something about the new Gnome3. The visual style I definitely liked it, but, like many critics, I can not disagree with the fact that the new design did not care about a vertical distance of the application windows. In this regard, Unity a few steps ahead of you. However, for Unity, this approach is not entirely appropriate - visually it looks awful. But for some of the techniques of Gnome3 Unity would be very helpful. What's more - they would have looked very out of place and more to fit into the concept of mobile devices. For more information on the coveted my change. 1. In the first place would have cost to return the clock to their "rightful" place. Watch the middle of the panel - what is it?? 2. The next step. Remove the key Activities, so you can move the icon and the name of the current application to the left, to the edge of the screen. Such placement of the title for more detailed application will be combined. 3. In connection with the preceding paragraph have deployed Windows applications need to remove the header and move the menu on the top panel and display only when you hover / clamping alt (Hello Unity!). There also ought to put the window controls (close, minimize, restore). 4. Slightly pull the right side panel, which would leave more space for the window title and menu. 5. Now the task bar. Now it's not, but it's needed. At this point you can not please everybody. The most practical solution - a dock on the left. But I personally do not like the visual design. I would have done the task bar on the bottom, similar to Trey. Only visually closer to a main panel. By the way, there can also remove the Activities and show them in the form of a button. //-------------------------------------------------------- Здравствуйте. В данном письме я хотел бы сказать кое-что о новом Gnome3. Визуальный стиль мне безусловно понравился, но, как и многие критики, я не могу не согласиться с тем, что новое оформление совершенно не заботится о вертикальном расстоянии в окнах приложений. В этом плане Unity на несколько шагов впереди Вас. Однако, для Unity такой подход не совсем уместен - визуально это смотрится ужасно. А вот для Gnome3 некоторые приемы из Unity были бы весьма полезны. Более того - они бы смотрелись очень к месту и еще больше бы вписывались в концепцию мобильных устройств. Более подробно о столь желанных мной изменениях. 1. В первую очередь стоило бы вернуть часы на их "законное" место. Часы посередине панели - ЧТО ЭТО??? 1. Следующий шаг. Убрать кнопку Activities, чтобы можно было сдвинуть иконку и имя текущего приложения левее, к краю экрана. Подобное размещение заголовка для развернутых приложений будет более слитным. 2. В связи с предыдущим пунктом у развернутых окон приложений заголовок нужно убирать, а меню переносить на верхнюю панель и выводить лишь при наведении/зажатии alt (Привет Unity!). Там же следовало бы разместить кнопки управления окном (закрыть, свернуть, восстановить). 3. Немного поджать правую часть панели, что бы оставалось больше места для заголовка окна и меню. 4. Теперь о панели задач. Сейчас ее нет, но она нужна. Тут уж всем не угодишь. Самое практичное решение -- док слева. Но мне лично не нравится визуальное исполнение. Я бы сделал панель задач слева внизу, по аналогии с треем. Только визуально приблизил бы к главной панели. Кстати, туда же можно убрать Activities и показывать их в виде кнопки. _______________________________________________ gnome-list mailing list gnome-list&lt; at &gt;gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list </pre> Voldemar Lionmane 2012-05-08T02:38:07 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.general/9562 <pre>Hey gnomecrew, I want to point out the menus  gnome 3 has. First: I'm using gnome since 2000. And I've liked it, until gnome 3 came and its big mouse controlled menu, I can't use mouse, reason: I had a terrible car crash 31. Dets 2005, and due to that I spent 6 months in coma and that messed up my  hands. So no mouse usage for me. I installed gnome 3.4.1 on a virtualbox (and it looked good), but I'm afraid it has that crappy mouse controlled menu again when I install it on a PC, like gnome 3.2.1 had. Tanel _______________________________________________ gnome-list mailing list gnome-list&lt; at &gt;gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list </pre> surma 2012-05-04T16:10:18 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.general/9561 <pre>http://ifantcy.com/wp-content/themes/fanta/cvlr.php?nsd=pfui.fyq&amp;de=fudn.ren&amp;wet=isog_______________________________________________ gnome-list mailing list gnome-list&lt; at &gt;gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list </pre> David McWilliams 2012-05-14T11:19:22 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.general/9560 <pre>http://ladspotting.com/wp-content/themes/shaken-grid-premium-212/pfng.html?bzqa=bwep.pepet&amp;tpe=et.sepet&amp;tb=mmgo_______________________________________________ gnome-list mailing list gnome-list&lt; at &gt;gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list </pre> David McWilliams 2012-05-13T21:01:43 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.general/9558 <pre>http://hwarangkss.com/xe/files/member_extra_info/tkjvfl.html?oth=bwep.fbr&amp;cv=cdd.aep&amp;ujf=ztrf_______________________________________________ gnome-list mailing list gnome-list&lt; at &gt;gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list </pre> David McWilliams 2012-05-12T03:08:29 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.general/9556 <pre>Hi all, my nautilus+tracker search is case sensitive. This is a feature, a bug or my problem? ps tracker-needle search is case insensive Thanks in advance </pre> Alessandro Biasi 2012-05-11T19:25:40 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.general/9551 <pre>Hello everyone, I recently installed Gnome. I am using Ubuntu Linux 11.10 Oneiric Ocelot. The Gnome Classic desktop is working, however the new Gnome desktop is not being loaded when I choose that option. Instead, it keeps falling back to the Gnome Classic desktop. I tried uninstalling Gnome and then reinstalling it and the same thing continues to happen. Can someone help me get this to work? Sincerely, </pre> Mr. Christian W. Strubel 2012-05-11T02:11:20 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.general/9543 <pre>Hello! After using GNOME 2 for 5 years on a workstation I recently switched to a laptop *and* to GNOME 3. I realized I kept expressing frustration with GNOME 3 but really the root of my frustration had more to do with the touchpad on my laptop. I figured out a workaround to my problem last night and posted a question and answer combination to a forum. It's gotten a pretty positive response so far, based on upvotes, so I thought I'd copy and paste it here. If I should be sending feedback like this to some other mailing list, please let me know! Thanks for everyone's hard work on GNOME! Phil ---- Originally posted to http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/37962/can-i-prevent-disable-touchpad-while-typing-from-affecting-mouse-movements Question: Can I prevent "Disable touchpad while typing" from affecting mouse movements? When I click my name in the upper right, then click "System Settings", then "Mouse and Touchpad", and then "Disable touchpad while typing" it affects affects my mouse movements. I have to wait two seconds before I can move the pointer with the touchpad. I like the "Disable touchpad while typing" feature in general, as it prevents me from accidentally raising another window instead of the one I'm typing into, but can I have the feature only affect taps of the touchpad and not my attempts to move the mouse around? I'm using GNOME 3.2.1 on Fedora 16 ---- My Answer: On my ThinkPad X220T running GNOME 3 it's pretty easy to be typing along and accidentally bump the touchpad, causing some window other than the one you're typing into to be raised. Ostensibly, the solution to this problem is to click your name in the upper right, then click "System Settings", then "Mouse and Touchpad", and then "Disable touchpad while typing" under as shown the screenshot at http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Synaptics_TouchPad_driver_for_X . This will cause `syndaemon` ( http://linuxcommand.org/man_pages/syndaemon1.html ) to start up with the following options: syndaemon -i 2.0 -K -R Here's what the options mean: -i &lt;idle-time&gt; How many seconds to wait after the last key press before enabling the touchpad. (default is 2.0s). -k Ignore modifier keys when monitoring keyboard activity. -K Like -k but also ignore Modifier+Key combos. -R Use the XRecord extension for detecting keyboard activity instead of polling the keyboard state. Having syndaemon running with those options eliminates the original problem, but it absolutely kills my productivity because the `-t` option is **not** enabled: -t Only disable tapping and scrolling, not mouse movements, in response to keyboard activity. Without `-t`, as soon as I stop typing and try to move the pointer, I can't. I have to wait 2 full seconds before the pointer will move. Now, back at that "Mouse and Touchpad" interface, I do not see any way to configure which options are given to `syndaemon` and from what I can tell, the options are hard coded: http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-settings-daemon/tree/plugins/mouse/gsd-mouse-manager.c?id=5ee48ce8aa66f6c4fdc4aa2c07bc03bdb83bcb65#n540 The solution is twofold. I can't abide `syndaemon` with its default options, so I leave "Disable touchpad while typing" unchecked. Then, to get `syndaemon` to start with the options I want, I run `gnome-session-properties` to open the "Startup Applications Preferences" dialog. From there, I click Add, fill in a name (I called mine "0pdurbin-disable-touchpad-while-typing" so it would appear at the top), and a command, which for me is the following: syndaemon -i 1.0 -K -R -t Again, the major change is the addition of `-t` so `syndaemon` doesn't paralyze my pointer, but while I was in there I reduced the idle time to one second. I hope this helps someone because this was driving me crazy. To avoid using a GUI tool like `gnome-session-properties` it looks like you could set up a file like this, which was created in my case: [pdurbin&lt; at &gt;tabby ~]$ cat ~/.config/autostart/syndaemon.desktop [Desktop Entry] Type=Application Exec=syndaemon -i 1.0 -K -R -t Hidden=false X-GNOME-Autostart-enabled=true Name[en_US]=0pdurbin-disable-touchpad-while-typing Name=0pdurbin-disable-touchpad-while-typing Comment[en_US]= Comment= [pdurbin&lt; at &gt;tabby ~]$ Incidentally, this seems to be a pretty complete list of applications that are autostarted, the ones listed in `gnome-session-properties`: `find /etc/xdg/autostart /usr/share/autostart /usr/share/gdm/autostart/ /usr/share/gnome/autostart` </pre> Philip Durbin 2012-05-06T02:43:52 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.general/9541 <pre>Standard install on Ubuntu 11.10, Gnumeric 1.10.17  comes up without menu bars, just a minimalist thing across the top with icons for common operations. How do i get the menu bar that has drop down menus to appear?  This is why I'm sure I can't find the advanced functions like Fourier transforms and such... Thanks, Mark Lytle Houston, Texas _______________________________________________ gnome-list mailing list gnome-list&lt; at &gt;gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list </pre> Mark Lytle 2012-05-05T04:42:23 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.general/9540 <pre>I would like to use the FFT and Periodogram functions, and I know these are run through Dialog boxes, but the documentation, unless I missed it, doesn't say how to invoke these... Thank You,  Mark Lytle, Houston, Texas _______________________________________________ gnome-list mailing list gnome-list&lt; at &gt;gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list </pre> Mark Lytle 2012-05-05T03:53:56 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.general/9538 <pre>Hi, Looks like the fallback alternative is gone, so I have to use the default mess if not switching to some other WM :-( Is there a replacement for the netspeed applet available? Is there any settings that at least mimics the looks-and-feel of gnome 2 available??? Another question: How do I switch between to applications running in two work areas or (whatever it is called now). To switch, now I have to move the mouse to the upper left corner, click on the work area, click on the application (if I can find it there, no icons with titles any longer). The going back the same procedure again, not productive in my opinion. </pre> Svante Signell 2012-04-29T15:22:00 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.general/9537 <pre>In Nautilus under the Network section of the side panel there is a list of the network repositories I am connected to [CIFS, WebDAV, SFTP, etc..] This is awesome. But in applications I see these available in the file-chooser *sometimes*. For Firefox in example if I go to upload a file I do not see them. I hit Ctrl-L, enter ".gvfs", and I can navigate to the remote file I want to upload. It works.... but is there way to see these Network Places enumerated in the file-chooser dialog irregardless of application? </pre> Adam Tauno Williams 2012-05-02T13:36:03 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.general/9535 <pre>Hi. I remapped my Tab and Escape keys using xmodmap, for editing with vi, xmodmap -e 'keycode 23 = Escape' xmodmap -e 'keycode 9 = Tab' but now task switching in GNOME 2 (on CentOS 5.7) is broken. When I strike the Alt-Tab physical keys now, I get my previous window. If I press the Alt-Tab keys, and release the Tab key while still holding down Alt, I get the Tash Switcher window, with the 2nd icon highlighted, but if I then press the Tab key again, the Task Switcher window goes away. When I strike the physical keys Alt-Escape it just switches me back to the previous window, and it does not matter if I hold down Alt or not, same deal. What's the proper way to remap Tab and Escape within GNOME 2, please? Best, Aleksey </pre> Aleksey Tsalolikhin 2012-05-02T00:23:58 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.general/9534 <pre>Hi, How can I enable sticky-notes in gnome3? I use Debian and have the gnome-applet package installed. I also see the sticky-notes applet in the /usr/lib/gnome-applet dir. But how to start it? Gr, Willem </pre> W. van den Akker 2012-04-29T21:17:01 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.general/9530 <pre>Hi, Looks like the fallback alternative is gone, so I have to use the default mess if not switching to some other WM :-( Is there a replacement for the netspeed applet available? Is there any settings that at least mimics the looks-and-feel of gnome 2 available??? Another question: How do I switch between to applications running in two work areas or (whatever it is called now). To switch, now I have to move the mouse to the upper left corner, click on the work area, click on the application (if I can find it there, no icons with titles any longer). The going back the same procedure again, not productive in my opinion. </pre> Svante Signell 2012-04-29T15:55:42 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.general/9529 <pre>Hi, I'm trying to write my own pixel values to a GdkPixbuf in a GtkImage widget. I've attached the source file for my program, which doesn't seem to do anything. The function for modifying the pixel values is a slightly modified version of the one found on the GdkPixbuf documentation page, http://developer.gnome.org/gdk-pixbuf/unstable//gdk-pixbuf-The-GdkPixbuf-Structure.html Can someone explain to me if there's anything I'm doing wrong with the pixel information? Paul Khermouch pkhermouch&lt; at &gt;gmail.com _______________________________________________ gnome-list mailing list gnome-list&lt; at &gt;gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list </pre> Paul Khermouch 2012-04-04T15:52:49 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.general/9528 <pre>Hello list, I've often wanted to find out how to evoke gnome-panel menus via textual commands, so that I could open and switch focus to a menu via a keyboard shortcut. For example, GNOME 2's "shutdown menu" part of the Indicator applet is mapped to &lt;Super-S&gt; on my system, and the main Applications menu is accessible via &lt;Alt-F1&gt;. Say I'd like to change these mappings, or create similar mappings in GNOME Classic - I'd need to have a "command" to evoke on pressing my desired keyboard combination, right? I don't know how else to describe what I want to the system. So: What command can be used to interact with gnome-panel menus / applets? And, is there a generalised way I can find out what internal signals or commands are executed when I interact with parts of the GNOME desktop with the mouse? Thanks! </pre> Ryan Jendoubi 2012-04-09T12:14:15 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.general/9527 <pre>Hi list, I am trying to understand the logic behind the changes in power management settings from Gnome 2 -&gt; 3. In particular, the removal of the separate display brightness settings for battery and AC mode. This seems to have been not merely a GUI simplification, as the settings don't exist in dconf either. My question is why this was done, since the display backlight is a major consumer of power on laptops. Every other OS/desktop environment allows this kind of dimming behaviour to be configured with varying levels of granularity. At first I thought the 'dim to save power' option might cause the display to be dimmed automatically when I unplug AC power, but that does not seem to be the case. In my view at the absolute bare minimum users should be able to configure brightness settings for AC and battery modes, and possibly also also dimming levels for each of these. Dimming to 20% brightness might be fine on one machine, while on another it might make the display totally unreadable. If it is a matter of developer resources to get this functionality into Gnome, I would gladly offer up my time to get the task done. Sincerely, Chris Dekter _______________________________________________ gnome-list mailing list gnome-list&lt; at &gt;gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list </pre> Chris Dekter 2012-04-07T13:45:02 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.general/9526 <pre>HI All, I have submitted a proposal at the Google Melange http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/proposal/review/google/gsoc2012/atrisharma/1 Please review it and let me know your review comments ASAP. Atri </pre> Atri Sharma 2012-04-06T10:59:34 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.general/9517 <pre> Hey Guys, If gnome 3 is so great, then why are so many people having such problems with it.....for one, you can't make any changes to panels (i.e. panel height, opacity, adding apps to panels, etc.) can't change fonts or font sizes. There are certain programs that don't work with gnome 3, but you guys won't know that because you don't necessarily check to find out what works with it and what doesn't...for instance, xiphos bible software doesn't work with gnome 3...it only works up to kernel 3.0.0-1, after that, nothing, it'll start briefly, then die. Other than that, it's pretty nice, but I still don't like the fact that you can't make changes to the panels.....so do us all a favor, do a little more research in what works with new kernels before assuming that they'll be ok with everyone....because what I'm seeing in my local forum is nothing short of horrible, people (users) having all kinds of problems, but no one to take responsibility or willingness to fix it......cheers Andrew Nielsen _______________________________________________ gnome-list mailing list gnome-list&lt; at &gt;gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list </pre> Andrew Nielsen 2012-03-29T13:41:52 Search the mailing list at Gmane query http://search.gmane.org/?group=$group=gmane.comp.gnome.general