http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gis.openstreetmap hourly 1 1901-01-01T00:00+00:00 http://gmane.org/img/gmane-25t.png http://gmane.org http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gis.openstreetmap/66594 <pre>Möchte mich von dieser Mailingliste abmelden da ich länger unterwegs bin und dann zu viele mails bekomme. Wie geht das? Rolf Kraus-Freiberg D-84028 Landshut Tel: 0049-176-47723150 _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk&lt; at &gt;openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk </pre> Rolf Kraus-Freiberg 2013-05-25T08:00:54 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gis.openstreetmap/66578 <pre>Hi, Ben and Pieren thank you for bringing some details already. I just want to provide some information on the map of Yaounde.My graduation project is to implement a mapping portal of Cameroon, accessible to all based on OSM. More than just a portal, the project aims to use OSM as urban management tools. what is already done: - From 2010 to 2012, I did some field missions (mainly in Yaoundé) - July-August 2012 with a group of 4 students we educate local students on the osm  project - This year from March 11 to April 8, with the support of EUROSHA Cameroon, Cameroon OSM community has been launched. - We conducted a conference and some training in JOSM - I furrowed some streets of the capital and other cities in Cameroon (Limbe, Bertoua, Buea) with video system board (GPS + Camera). This permit direct measurement of the coordinates (x, y, z) on images with a centimeter accuracy. - We have received permission to import some public data in OSM (forest roads, student projects) (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GeoCameroun) - The scripts to generate OSM files (Ogr2Osm, OSGeo4W ...) - A dedicated account for imports (http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/GeoCameroun)  What remains to be done: - Finish the project documentation on the wiki OSM (I will finish it as soon as possible, I just have other more pressing issues for the moment) - finish the discussion with the local community on the national data to import. - my internship report will naturally be public. Do not hesitate to contact me for any information about the project (http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/sobzeros) Video of the working visit to Cameroon :  http://youtu.be/saFsT558Xbo me: - Willy Franck SOB osm account: sobzeros Student E.S.G.T (Engineering School of Land Surveying) France. OSM member France, President of OSM Cameroon company: - SOGEFI (http://www.sogefi-sig.com) osm account: SOGEFI Geomatics company  and member of OSM France http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Cameroon  Sincerely,_______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk&lt; at &gt;openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk </pre> Sob Willy-Franck 2013-05-24T15:37:40 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gis.openstreetmap/66557 <pre>Hi, I've made an updatd list of densely mapped areas in OSM. http://fred.dev.openstreetmap.org/density/ You might be surprised to hear that the top four most densely mapped areas in OSM are in Cameroon! Bye Frederik </pre> Frederik Ramm 2013-05-24T13:00:07 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gis.openstreetmap/66550 <pre>Hello everyone - The final schedule is now available for State of the Map SF (June 8 &amp; 9). It was hard to pick from so many fantastic submissions. The State of the Map US program committee whittled down submissions to fill two days and two tracks of 25 minute sessions - bringing the grand total to 52 sessions about OpenStreetMap, spanning tools, cartography, community, business, government, and humanitarian response. Thank you to everyone who submitted a session proposal - you're making this an awesome conference with your contribution. If you haven't made it into the final schedule, please consider leading a birds of a feather session, which will be organized ad-hoc at the conference. Head over to our blog post and find out all about it: http://openstreetmap.us/2013/05/state-of-the-map-us-schedule-up/ Aside from two full days of sessions on June 8 and 9, there will be a workshop day on June 7 and sprint days on June 10 and 11 (yes, this got extended :). The one-day OSM Plus conference will take place on June 10. Workshops and OSM Plus require separate registration. Looking forward to seeing you in San Francisco! </pre> Alex Barth 2013-05-20T21:34:14 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gis.openstreetmap/66532 <pre>I just discovered that iD presumes that some tags are exclusive, e.g. you can't add (at least not via preset) on the same way (line) more than one of these tags: highway, railway, power but afaik it is common practice to use railway=tram on the same way as highway=* (in certain circumstances). Right now when you click on "other" in this menu, the other tag that is considered "principal" by iD gets silently removed (e.g. if you click on a highway on "other", the highway-tag is removed). I'd consider both of these bugs, but would like to open a discussion what others think about "exclusive" tags. cheers, Martin PS: Even if this might look like, I don't want to "bash" iD, I think it is a great piece of software, it simply needs some fine tuning. _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk&lt; at &gt;openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk </pre> Martin Koppenhoefer 2013-05-23T13:17:56 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gis.openstreetmap/66526 <pre>Good idea, but not with the default openlayer marker :) ----- Reply message ----- De : "Richard Mann" &lt;richard.mann.westoxford&lt; at &gt;gmail.com&gt; Pour : "Andrew Errington" &lt;erringtona&lt; at &gt;gmail.com&gt; Cc : "Talk Openstreetmap" &lt;talk&lt; at &gt;openstreetmap.org&gt; Objet : [OSM-talk] Permalink with marker Date : jeu., mai 23, 2013 11:03 Easiest of all would probably be to include the marker by default, and let people edit it out if they don't want it. Richard On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Andrew Errington &lt;erringtona&lt; at &gt;gmail.com&gt; wrote: Hi, I think that's slightly different to what I had in mind.  My suggestion was to make a very simple way to make a map marker.  For example, if a friend asks me where a restaurant is, or a park, I want to go to the map and quickly create a link with a marker to send to my friend. I can paste the link into email, or Facebook, or any chat program. I can do this right now, but I need to edit the long permalink (or add "?m" to the short permalink).  I'd like to skip this step. Thanks, Andrew On 23 May 2013 15:40, christian.pietzsch&lt; at &gt;googlemail.com &lt;christian.pietzsch&lt; at &gt;gmail.com&gt; wrote: Hithis would be really great. Another good thing would be if you could generate a permalink for searched areas.....for example: if you search vor Berlin and click on the first entrance the border Berlin city will be shown on the map.... Maybe it would be possible to have a small Link symbol next to the search results. greetings Christian 2013/5/23 sabas88 &lt;sabas88&lt; at &gt;gmail.com&gt; 2013/5/23 Andrew Errington &lt;erringtona&lt; at &gt;gmail.com&gt; Hello, On the main map at osm.org there is a 'permalink' hyperlink, which generates a URL encoding the current view of the map.  It is easy to change this into a marker link by editing the URL and changing "lat" and "lon" to "mlat" and "mlon". Would it be beneficial to add another hyperlink which will do this automagically?  Maybe called "markerlink", which produces a URL containing "mlat" and "mlon". I know it means work for someone, but if it's a good idea then hopefully it can be implemented easily.  I don't know if it's been suggested before, but if such a feature were available I would use it a lot.  I often make my own OSM marker links to send to people by editing the permalink URL, so I'd appreciate a one-click function to do this. Comments please.  If it's a good idea I will submit it to OSM trac. I like it, but should be considered also into the url shortening part (now if you add marker via mlon and mlat and  make a shorturl it transforms it in lon and lat..)  Thanks, Andrew Regards,Stefano  _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk&lt; at &gt;openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk&lt; at &gt;openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk&lt; at &gt;openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk&lt; at &gt;openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk_______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk&lt; at &gt;openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk </pre> yvecai< at >gmail.com 2013-05-23T09:50:07 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gis.openstreetmap/66520 <pre>Hello, On the main map at osm.org there is a 'permalink' hyperlink, which generates a URL encoding the current view of the map. It is easy to change this into a marker link by editing the URL and changing "lat" and "lon" to "mlat" and "mlon". Would it be beneficial to add another hyperlink which will do this automagically? Maybe called "markerlink", which produces a URL containing "mlat" and "mlon". I know it means work for someone, but if it's a good idea then hopefully it can be implemented easily. I don't know if it's been suggested before, but if such a feature were available I would use it a lot. I often make my own OSM marker links to send to people by editing the permalink URL, so I'd appreciate a one-click function to do this. Comments please. If it's a good idea I will submit it to OSM trac. Thanks, Andrew _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk&lt; at &gt;openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk </pre> Andrew Errington 2013-05-23T06:01:05 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gis.openstreetmap/66518 <pre>Hi The JOSM team is hunting a bug [1] concerning "consecutive identical nodes in ways". Now one user did produce quite a lot of these ways the last days. I did already write a message to him/her in English but I did not get any answer so far and I am not sure if the user knows enough English to communicate. Would someone please kindly ask him/her, * if all plugins are up to date ? * if she/he does not get error warnings from validator on upload ? * which plugins are installed (version) * How she/he is able to produce these ways (workflow). Thanks a lot colliar [1] https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/8591 [2] http://toolserver.org/~mapjedi/blame.txt _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk&lt; at &gt;openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk </pre> colliar 2013-05-22T16:51:02 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gis.openstreetmap/66515 <pre>Hi! As you probably don't know, we (OSM EE and russian mappers) are organizing a european OpenStreetMap conference just between SotM US and SotM. It is called SotM Baltics 2013 and will be held in Tartu, Estonia on 3-4 of August. The website is at http://sotm-baltics.org We hope to bring together OSM communities of Baltics States, Russia and Finland, and of course we will be delighted to meet mappers from other countries. Official conference language is English. Registration is already open: http://sotm-baltics.org/register.html . Until 9th of June tickets are sold at a discounted price of only 11 euros. Call for presentations will be announced later this week. IZ </pre> Ilya Zverev 2013-05-22T12:40:13 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gis.openstreetmap/66514 <pre>Bonsoir, Belle rencontre hier en fin d'après midi entre trois personnes du Service cartographique du Grand Besançon et quatre OSMeurs, suivi pour les 4 d'un débriefing autours d'une bière. Il semble que la volonté d'ouvrir les données du SIG du Grand Besançon à OSM soit bien présente chez les techniciens. J'ai été surpris par la connaissance que les techniciens avaient d'OpenStreetMap : forum, wiki, association... Ils s'étaient renseignés avant notre rencontre. Eux étaient surpris par les moyens dont nous disposons : serveurs, études universitaires, outils d'édition et de contrôle qualité... Nous avons abordé les questions techniques sur les formats de données lors des échanges (système ArcGIS sur base de donnée Oracle mais transfert en Shape) L'intérêt, c'est, semble-t-il, de mettre les données à disposition du public, associatif ou particulier, et des municipalités pour décharger le service et lui permettre de se concentrer sur d'autres tâches. Nous avons évoqué les outils de publication et d'édition de données. L'intérêt, c'est de mettre en place des "veilleurs locaux" pour la qualité des données. Nous avons alors évoqué les outils de suivi de modifications, de contrôle qualité. La question n'est pas tellement celle de la licence : nous avons bien précisé que nous avions besoin de la licence ODBl. Mais plutôt celle du suivi des délais d'intégration et de mise à jours. - Si nous vous passons le filaire de voirie, au bout de combien de temps ces données seront intégrées à OSM ? - Ça dépend... - Mais que dire alors à l'élu qui constatera que la rue devant chez lui n'est pas présente dans OSM ? - Comme sur Wikipédia, il corrige lui-même... OpenStreetMap, ce ne sont que des bénévoles. A moins qu'un stagiaire veille à compléter le travail des bénévoles. Plusieurs thématiques ont été mentionnées : voirie, points adresse, cyclisme, randonnée - promenade, petit patrimoine, équipement urbain, transport en commun (mais on attendra la mise en place du tramway). Et, quoique nous étions plusieurs à avoir eu cela en tête, nous avons oublié de mentionner la thématique accessibilité. Pour le traitement, l'expérience de Brest Métropole Océane est une référence. Maintenant il faut attendre les élus... Puis dès qu'on aura un paquet de données test, on fera appel aux techniciens pour le calcul du différentiel, si nécessaire, pour la mise en place d'une interface pour "piquer les éléments" à importer (vu la densité existant déjà dans OSM, ce sera probablement une interface à la CLC qui sera à retenir mettre en place) Ceux qui étaient présent hier pourront compléter... À suivre... -- FrViPofm </pre> Vincent Pottier 2013-05-22T08:19:11 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gis.openstreetmap/66496 <pre>hi, what's the english expression for a relation "from-(via)-to" on a junction in context of traffic engineering? I guess it might be turn relation or route or traffic direction or connection or ... I'm currently working on junctions, traffic lights, prediction of green signal etc. cheers martin </pre> Martin Schafran 2013-05-21T10:49:41 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gis.openstreetmap/66487 <pre>There are some minor issues with what appears as tag suggestions on objects. E.g. I edited a (already quite detailed) hotel and the suggested tags were elevation, wikipedia, note and wheelchair. I think very few hotels have an elevation tagged, ele is generally a complicated thing to tag (you have to understand the relevant reference system(s) to get it right, and the most interesting information in conjunction with a building is obtained only in combination with height) so I'd suggest to remove ele in this case in favor of other more useful tags (e.g. stars / award:hotelstars, email, internet_access, ...). How are these tag suggestions created? Is there a way to propose the addition of other relevant tag suggestions, or are these created completely automatically? Cheers, Martin _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk&lt; at &gt;openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk </pre> Martin Koppenhoefer 2013-05-18T15:50:02 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gis.openstreetmap/66486 <pre>I propose to move the "source"-tag from the object space and instead suggest it as a changeset tag in iD. cheers, Martin _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk&lt; at &gt;openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk </pre> Martin Koppenhoefer 2013-05-18T15:44:28 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gis.openstreetmap/66481 <pre>I added a tag ‘flag’ with URLs of flag graphics to country relations[1], flag=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/ba/Flag_of_Fiji.svg being a typical example. When I was intending to document what I had done I found out that apart from nationalities with amenity=flag/man_made=flagpole/man_made=ground_flag the tag is also in use on streets with colours and bus stops with the values ‘yes’ or ‘no’. [2] What is the best way to go from here? [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/15814293 and following changesets. [2] http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/flag -- Andrew _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk&lt; at &gt;openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk </pre> Andrew 2013-05-18T14:25:55 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gis.openstreetmap/66473 <pre>There are abot 33.000 objects in OSM which have "google" in the one way or another in their source tag: http://malenki.ch/d/2013-05-18_142122_scr_source_google.png Just type "google" in the value-field: http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/source#values Any thoughts about that? </pre> malenki 2013-05-18T12:31:17 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gis.openstreetmap/66461 <pre>Hi! I write a work for which I did a small comparison of walking/transit routing/data between digital maps for my diploma work. One thing caught my eye is that while MapQuest have this nice open.mapquest.com site with all up-to-date and nicely legit attribution to us, their default site for capital of my country has started to show details which are clearly from OSM (stuff I did myself), but from year a half ago or so. Attribution to default site is MapQuest, portions NAVTEQ, couldnt find attribution to OSM there. So maybe anyone know: 1) why it has reasonably old OSM data on main MapQuest site 2) and why it isn't properly attributed Respectfully, Peteris Krisjanis. _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk&lt; at &gt;openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk </pre> pecisk< at >gmail.com 2013-05-15T15:19:45 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gis.openstreetmap/66425 <pre>Wikimania is being held in Hong Kong in August. They currently have a Google Map with the important PoIs here: https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=200955753921436397974.0004bda3a4e6517fb7561&amp;msa=0&amp;ll=22.300533,114.181124&amp;spn=0.025412,0.032315 They also have a link to a Google Map showing the train route to get from the dorm to the venue here: http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=5+Baptist+University+Rd,+Kowloon+Tong,+Hong+Kong&amp;daddr=22.304907,114.180477&amp;hl=en&amp;sll=22.320779,114.179814&amp;sspn=0.050816,0.063858&amp;geocode=FYfPVAEdkEnOBikBf4J9LgcENDGKObzuUQPt4w%3B&amp;t=v&amp;dirflg=r&amp;ttype=now&amp;noexp=0&amp;noal=0&amp;sort=def&amp;mra=ls&amp;z=14&amp;start=0 The page with these links is here: https://wikimania2013.wikimedia.org/wiki/Accommodation#Hong_Kong_Baptist_University_dorm I spoke to one of the organisers, and he said that if we have a way to represent this information on OSM, they'd be happy to switch. What would you suggest? Thanks, -- David Richfield [[:en:User:Slashme]] +27718539985 </pre> David Richfield 2013-05-12T19:36:05 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gis.openstreetmap/66424 <pre>Hi! When Frederik asked about using OAuth for the GeoChat plugin, I remembered the same problem I had with the imagery offset database. And since I was in a "programming" mode, this lead to an idea on how to skip OAuth for client applications, while reliably identifying users. So the whole Sunday I was coding, and now I am proud to present the OpenStreetMap Authentication Proxy: http://auth.osmz.ru/ https://github.com/Zverik/osm-auth-proxy The idea is that the service, to which you log in via OAuth, generates tokens, which it can then remember and exchange for some related user info. Some tokens are permament, some work only once, so even if someone manages to steal one, it would only work until the first logout. Actually, do visit the page: most of it is filled with description text. I will probably use this service for identifying users in GeoChat and other services, and will be happy to see it being used by others. IZ </pre> Ilya Zverev 2013-05-12T19:11:05 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gis.openstreetmap/66423 <pre>Hi This talk of the new ID editor, prompts me to ask if there's a Windows based editor that allows the edit of tags on ways as well as POIs? I've found one that's just POI's (http://ae.osmsurround.org/ae/index) but not that allows both. Loading all the geometry data just to change a spelling seems OTT, especially as Potlatch appears quite bandwidth heavy &amp; flash is not very stable at the moment. Cheers Dave F. </pre> Dave F. 2013-05-12T19:01:50 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gis.openstreetmap/66400 <pre>Hi! Sorry to bother you, but I've written something again, and I'd like for everyone to use it :) http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/GeoChat It is a plugin for JOSM that allows users mapping in a same area to talk to each other. At the least it should render a chat window in MapCraft obsolete: users at online mapping parties would be able to interact inside the map editor. Also it could lessen a chance of mapping conflicts, because users' location can be shown in a map window. And the great thing is, you won't even need to keep the panel expanded, because the panel title would inform you if someone posted a message. I'd be pleased to see this functionality implemented in other editors (but please not in projects unrelated to editing OSM): the API is very simple and is also described in the wiki. The server, of course, is not restricted to OSM users in any way. If you want to use it for non-OSM activities, feel free: the source is on github: https://github.com/Zverik/geochat Thanks, IZ </pre> Ilya Zverev 2013-05-10T08:29:53 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gis.openstreetmap/66399 <pre>Great work!! let's go ahead and use it. Without selecting an option from the edit tab, potlatch 2 is the default editor, still.   Yours Truly Douglas Ssebaggala Musaazi Mobile:   +256-772-422524 http://www.mountbatten.net/ http://www.pamoya.com/node/13275 http://www.mappingday.com/ http://www.twitter.com/mapuganda http://www.linux.or.ug/ Keep In Touch _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk&lt; at &gt;openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk </pre> Douglas Musaazi 2013-05-08T13:37:09 Search the mailing list at Gmane query http://search.gmane.org/?group=$group=gmane.comp.gis.openstreetmap