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    <title>What should find_blockdevices() return?</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.encryption.cryptobox.devel/335</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi,

according to &amp;lt;https://systemausfall.org/mail-archive/?0::393&amp;gt; the 
function find_blockdevices() in core.blockdevices.py is a not working 
proper. I was hit by the same problems and want to fix it.

So: What is find_blockdevices() supposed to return exactly?

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    <title>Questions an Problems with Debain build</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.encryption.cryptobox.devel/333</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi,

I'm trying to build the current package on Debian Squeeze.

* Why is python-all-dev required? python-dev should be enough? Even 
python-setuptools should be okay?!

* How do I install the build package and it's dependencies?  Neither 
apt-get not aptitude use the local file :-(

* How do checkout the subversion repository of Cryptobox?

&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Hartmut Goebel</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2011-05-12T10:20:24</dc:date>
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    <title>New to the CyptoNAS project.</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.encryption.cryptobox.devel/332</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi,

I'm new to the CryptoNAS project. Seams as if I just missed it's funeral 
and but came to the funeral feast ;-)

Short introduction on myself.

I'm a Information Security Consultant and have done -- and still do -- a 
lot of programming in my spare time. My main language is Python since 
about 10 years now and I'm the author of pdfposter 
&amp;lt;http://pdfposter.origo.ethz.ch/&amp;gt; , python-ghostscript 
&amp;lt;http://pypi.python.org/pypi/ghostscript&amp;gt; and the famous decompyle 
service &amp;lt;http://www.crazy-compilers.com/decompyle/&amp;gt;.

I'm experienced in RPM packaging but now own a NAS where I've put Debian 
on so I have to become a Debian-packager, too :-(

Looking forward to revive CryptoNAS a bit.

&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Hartmut Goebel</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2011-05-12T09:07:59</dc:date>
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    <title>end of CryptoNAS project</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.encryption.cryptobox.devel/331</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi,

since months it was very calm around CryptoNAS development. It's
clear now, that we won't find the proper time to continue this project
in a way we would like to. We learned a lot with this project. One
thing to learn was to give it an end when there is an end. ;) So we
decided to stop CryptoNAS at this point and make clear that there won't
be any updates provided by us.

There is still a need for a project like this. And the latest
live-CD still runs fine (with all known bugs). That's why we will keep
the website up'n running and with it all downloads, documentations and
source code.

Thanks for all your help, support, ideas and for just using it!
Henning
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    <dc:creator>Henning</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2011-05-05T10:03:29</dc:date>
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    <title>AW: Re: snapshot tests</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.encryption.cryptobox.devel/328</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;



Hi Ed,

what kind of issues have you observed with Python2.6?
I'm also testing CryptoNAS on my Ubuntu 10.04 x64 Workstation and have no/less problems observed with Python2.6. The basic problem that I've observed with the current ubuntu version is that it uses symbolic links in /sys/block for the blockdevices (/sys/block/sda...). CryptoNAS (./src/cryptobox/core/blockdevice.py function: find_blockdevices() with: os.path.walk(top_dir, look4dev_dirs, 'dev') around LN: 970) ignores the symbolic links and isn't displaying any disks in the webGUI. I've played a little bit around with the newer os.walk() function and at the moment no success. I get always infinite loop because some folders are linked backward in the folder hierarchy. Maybe someone else have a good idea to solve this.

Regards,

Dimce



----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----

Von: ed_mqca-PkbjNfxxIARBDgjK7y7TUQ&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;public.gmane.org

Datum: 19.10.2010 17:01

An: 

Betreff: Re: snapshot tests




Then I was encountering the same problems as others have posted , using
a more current ubuntu server. It doesn't work properly . python 2.6
problems.



--&amp;gt;

Ed










James Crofts wrote:
Ed: r1161 is quite
old, before v0.3.5. Can you tell me more about your application? Is
installing the "cryptobox-server" package into a regular Debian
installation not an option?




Lars and Henning: If we could have the discussion you talked about back
in July, as well as some more permissions, that would give me a lot
more confidence about spending much time on CryptoNAS development. As
far as an audit trail for the source repository, I suspect git or Hg
(which are allegedly decentralized) might offer something like this,
but I haven't investigated.






Ed wrote:


Hi
James, &amp;amp;amp; Developers.




I tried the r1161 snapshot. Since you included the ssh server, I was
able to do a few things.


Nice to have dhcp.


I edited the apt-sources and was able to download &amp;amp;amp; install mdadm
v2.5.6 .But these are lost on reboot from the CD ver.


The executable is in /sbin/mdadm", so it would be beneficial to add
"/sbin" to the path.


The webUI does not show disk device names, ie hda hdb only the volume
size.




Can  the img (for usb) version be capable to install packages
persistent? Also need to have edited scripts


for disk display not lost on reboot.


&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>little.tesla-goEDY2E6dbVyDzI6CaY1VQ&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2010-10-19T18:17:42</dc:date>
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    <title>snapshot tests</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.encryption.cryptobox.devel/325</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2010-10-18T20:09:00</dc:date>
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    <title>CryptoNAS on Ubuntu 10.04</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.encryption.cryptobox.devel/324</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi,
as promised I've made additional tests with CryptoNAS and here are my findings:
1. The reason for "No available 
disks were found!" is that the function find_blockdevices() in the file blockdevice.py contains "os.path.walk(top_dir, 
look4dev_dirs, 'dev')". The problem with this function is that it isn't following symbolic links and Ubuntu 10.04 has 
in /sys/block symbolic links.
2. I've downgraded to Python 2.4 to verify the issues aren't coming from it. However it 
looks like there isn't any issue with the python version.
3. No progress at the moment with the message "The connection 
is not encrypted - passwords can be easily intercepted."

I would be very happy if a experienced python coder could 
check the issue #1 and provide a patch for this.
Still looking forward for a copy of development snapshot build 
featuring Lenny (with console, etc. enabled).

Best Regards,

Dimce

&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>little.tesla-goEDY2E6dbVyDzI6CaY1VQ&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2010-10-17T20:19:21</dc:date>
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    <title>AW: Re: snapshot tests</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.encryption.cryptobox.devel/328</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;



Hi Ed,

what kind of issues have you observed with Python2.6?
I'm also testing CryptoNAS on my Ubuntu 10.04 x64 Workstation and have no/less problems observed with Python2.6. The basic problem that I've observed with the current ubuntu version is that it uses symbolic links in /sys/block for the blockdevices (/sys/block/sda...). CryptoNAS (./src/cryptobox/core/blockdevice.py function: find_blockdevices() with: os.path.walk(top_dir, look4dev_dirs, 'dev') around LN: 970) ignores the symbolic links and isn't displaying any disks in the webGUI. I've played a little bit around with the newer os.walk() function and at the moment no success. I get always infinite loop because some folders are linked backward in the folder hierarchy. Maybe someone else have a good idea to solve this.

Regards,

Dimce



----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----

Von: ed_mqca-PkbjNfxxIARBDgjK7y7TUQ&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;public.gmane.org

Datum: 19.10.2010 17:01

An: 

Betreff: Re: snapshot tests




Then I was encountering the same problems as others have posted , using
a more current ubuntu server. It doesn't work properly . python 2.6
problems.



--&amp;gt;

Ed










James Crofts wrote:
Ed: r1161 is quite
old, before v0.3.5. Can you tell me more about your application? Is
installing the "cryptobox-server" package into a regular Debian
installation not an option?




Lars and Henning: If we could have the discussion you talked about back
in July, as well as some more permissions, that would give me a lot
more confidence about spending much time on CryptoNAS development. As
far as an audit trail for the source repository, I suspect git or Hg
(which are allegedly decentralized) might offer something like this,
but I haven't investigated.






Ed wrote:


Hi
James, &amp;amp;amp; Developers.




I tried the r1161 snapshot. Since you included the ssh server, I was
able to do a few things.


Nice to have dhcp.


I edited the apt-sources and was able to download &amp;amp;amp; install mdadm
v2.5.6 .But these are lost on reboot from the CD ver.


The executable is in /sbin/mdadm", so it would be beneficial to add
"/sbin" to the path.


The webUI does not show disk device names, ie hda hdb only the volume
size.




Can  the img (for usb) version be capable to install packages
persistent? Also need to have edited scripts


for disk display not lost on reboot.


&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>little.tesla-goEDY2E6dbVyDzI6CaY1VQ&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2010-10-19T18:17:42</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.encryption.cryptobox.devel/325">
    <title>snapshot tests</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.encryption.cryptobox.devel/325</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2010-10-18T20:09:00</dc:date>
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    <title>CryptoNAS on Ubuntu 10.04</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.encryption.cryptobox.devel/324</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Hi,
as promised I've made additional tests with CryptoNAS and here are my findings:
1. The reason for "No available 
disks were found!" is that the function find_blockdevices() in the file blockdevice.py contains "os.path.walk(top_dir, 
look4dev_dirs, 'dev')". The problem with this function is that it isn't following symbolic links and Ubuntu 10.04 has 
in /sys/block symbolic links.
2. I've downgraded to Python 2.4 to verify the issues aren't coming from it. However it 
looks like there isn't any issue with the python version.
3. No progress at the moment with the message "The connection 
is not encrypted - passwords can be easily intercepted."

I would be very happy if a experienced python coder could 
check the issue #1 and provide a patch for this.
Still looking forward for a copy of development snapshot build 
featuring Lenny (with console, etc. enabled).

Best Regards,

Dimce

&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>little.tesla-goEDY2E6dbVyDzI6CaY1VQ&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2010-10-17T20:19:21</dc:date>
  </item>
  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.encryption.cryptobox.devel/321">
    <title>CryptoNAS Ubuntu 10.04</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.encryption.cryptobox.devel/321</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Dear all,

First of all I would like to thank you for this cool peace of software. It's exactly that for what I'm 
looking for.
I made some tests with the Cryptobox 0.3.5 source SVN version on my fresh and up to date Ubuntu 10.04 dev 
workstation and would like to share my experience with you.

Installation
########

Additional installed packages over 
the default ubuntu repositories:

python (2.6.5) python-central (0.6.15) python-clearsilver (0.10.4-1.4) python-
cherrypy (2.3.0-3) python-configobj (4.7.1-1) python-m2crypto (0.20.1-1) super (3.30.0-3) cryptsetup (2:1.1.0~rc2)

gettext (0.17-8) stunnel4 (3:4.29-1)

Manual --&amp;gt; https://systemausfall.org/wikis/howto/CryptoBox_server_source_installation
Edit cryptobox.conf:
- 
AllowedDevices
- DisabledPlugins

Edit /etc/super.tab like described.

No problem with the installation.

First Test

#######

Start the CherryPy webserver --&amp;gt; no errors
Browse to localhost --&amp;gt; CryptoNAS webinterface (looks good :-))


I've tested it a bit and found this issues:
- If I chose to use an encrypted connection everything works well, 
exception is that the message "The connection is not encrypted - passwords can be easily intercepted.    Use encrypted 
connection" isn't going away
- If I chose an other language, the text in the interface isn't changing (always English)

- I didn't see the list of my harddisks (after trying different things and starting the CP server as root I was able to 
see the HD. However I'm not able to reproduce this. After reinstalling --&amp;gt; no HD)

It looks for me that the first 
problem is Python 2.6, because the live CD with Python 2.4 is working well. I will downgrade in the next 1-2 weeks my 
python to 2.4 and let you know my results.

Hopefully this is helpful for you.

Best regards,

Dimce

PS. Here is the 
log snippet:

 13 seconds  current language preference: ['en', 'de', 'sl', 'fr']
symbol: DEBUG 13 seconds raised 
priority of preferred browser language: en
symbol: DEBUG 13 seconds updating language preferences (default: ['en', 
'de', 'sl', 'fr'])
symbol: INFO 13 seconds A ramdisk seems to be already mounted as a config partition - doing 
nothing ...
symbol: INFO 13 seconds No configuration partitions found
symbol: DEBUG 13 seconds Retrieving available 
configuration partitions ...
symbol: DEBUG 13 seconds trying to mount configuration partition
symbol: DEBUG 13 
seconds rereading container list
symbol: INFO 13 seconds language loaded: sl
symbol: INFO 13 seconds language 
loaded: fr
symbol: INFO 13 seconds language loaded: en
symbol: INFO 13 seconds language loaded: de
symbol: INFO 13 
seconds Plugin 'volume_rename' loaded
symbol: INFO 13 seconds Plugin 'language_selection' loaded
symbol: INFO 13 
seconds Plugin 'volume_chpasswd' loaded
symbol: INFO 13 seconds Plugin 'volume_mount' loaded
symbol: INFO 13 
seconds Plugin 'network' loaded
symbol: INFO 13 seconds Plugin 'partition' loaded
symbol: INFO 13 seconds Plugin 
'user_manager' loaded
symbol: INFO 13 seconds Plugin 'shutdown' loaded
symbol: INFO 13 seconds Plugin 
'plugin_manager' loaded
symbol: INFO 13 seconds Plugin 'plugin_template' is disabled
symbol: INFO 13 seconds Plugin 
'date' loaded
symbol: INFO 13 seconds Plugin 'help' loaded
symbol: INFO 13 seconds Plugin 'logs' loaded
symbol: 
INFO 13 seconds Plugin 'volume_props' loaded
symbol: INFO 13 seconds Plugin 'volume_details' loaded
symbol: INFO 
13 seconds Plugin 'volume_check_fs' is disabled
symbol: INFO 13 seconds Plugin 'volume_format_fs' loaded
symbol: 
INFO 13 seconds Plugin 'encrypted_webinterface' is disabled
symbol: INFO 13 seconds Plugin 'system_preferences' 
loaded
symbol: INFO 13 seconds Plugin 'disks' loaded
symbol: INFO 13 seconds Plugin 'volume_automount' loaded

symbol: : 'en', 'Settings.PluginList.encrypted_webinterface.Types.system': '1', 'Settings.PluginList.network.Rank': 
30, 'Settings.PluginList.volume_format_fs.Rank': 60, 'Settings.PluginList.plugin_manager.Visible.preferences': '1', 
'Settings.PluginList.logs.Types.system': '1', 'Settings.PluginList.language_selection.Visible.menu': '1', 'Settings.
PluginList.volume_automount': 'volume_automount', 'Settings.PluginList.user_manager': 'user_manager', 'Settings.
PluginList.network.Visible.preferences': '1', 'Settings.PluginList.disks.Rank': 10, 'Data.Status.Plugins.logs': 'debug:
file:./cryptobox.log', 'Settings.PluginList.system_preferences': 'system_preferences', 'Data.EnvironmentWarning.1': 
'Plugins.encrypted_webinterface.NoSSL', 'Settings.PluginList.encrypted_webinterface.Rank': 80, 'Settings.PluginList.
volume_format_fs.Types.volume': '1', 'Settings.PluginList.user_manager.Visible.preferences': '1'}

31 seconds  current 
language preference: ['en', 'de', 'sl', 'fr']
symbol: DEBUG 31 seconds raised priority of preferred browser language: 
en
symbol: DEBUG 31 seconds updating language preferences (default: ['en', 'de', 'sl', 'fr'])
symbol: INFO 31 
seconds A ramdisk seems to be already mounted as a config partition - doing nothing ...
symbol: INFO 31 seconds No 
configuration partitions found
symbol: DEBUG 31 seconds Retrieving available configuration partitions ...
symbol: 
DEBUG 31 seconds trying to mount configuration partition
symbol: DEBUG 31 seconds rereading container list
symbol: 
INFO 31 seconds language loaded: sl
symbol: INFO 31 seconds language loaded: fr
symbol: INFO 31 seconds language 
loaded: en
symbol: INFO 31 seconds language loaded: de
symbol: INFO 31 seconds Plugin 'volume_rename' loaded

symbol: INFO 31 seconds Plugin 'language_selection' loaded
symbol: INFO 31 seconds Plugin 'volume_chpasswd' loaded

symbol: INFO 31 seconds Plugin 'volume_mount' loaded
symbol: INFO 31 seconds Plugin 'network' loaded
symbol: INFO 
31 seconds Plugin 'partition' loaded
symbol: INFO 31 seconds Plugin 'user_manager' loaded
symbol: INFO 31 seconds 
Plugin 'shutdown' loaded
symbol: INFO 31 seconds Plugin 'plugin_manager' loaded
symbol: INFO 31 seconds Plugin 
'plugin_template' is disabled
symbol: INFO 31 seconds Plugin 'date' loaded
symbol: INFO 31 seconds Plugin 'help' 
loaded
symbol: INFO 31 seconds Plugin 'logs' loaded
symbol: INFO 31 seconds Plugin 'volume_props' loaded
symbol: 
INFO 31 seconds Plugin 'volume_details' loaded
symbol: INFO 31 seconds Plugin 'volume_check_fs' is disabled
symbol: 
INFO 31 seconds Plugin 'volume_format_fs' loaded
symbol: INFO 31 seconds Plugin 'encrypted_webinterface' is 
disabled
symbol: INFO 31 seconds Plugin 'system_preferences' loaded
symbol: INFO 31 seconds Plugin 'disks' loaded

symbol: INFO 31 seconds Plugin 'volume_automount' loaded
symbol: INFO 31 seconds Successfully started 'stunnel'

symbol: DEBUG 31 seconds [encrypted_webinterface] starting /usr/bin/stunnel4 on port 443 for 8080
symbol: INFO 31 
seconds Created new SSL certificate: /home/cryptobox/cryptonas/ttt/settings/misc/cryptobox-ssl-certificate.pem
symbol: 
INFO 31 seconds Starting up the CryptoBox ...

&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>little.tesla-goEDY2E6dbVyDzI6CaY1VQ&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2010-09-26T14:19:57</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.encryption.cryptobox.devel/316">
    <title>Listings on Freshmeat and Python Package Index</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.encryption.cryptobox.devel/316</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;Who "owns" our listings on http://freshmeat.net/projects/cryptobox and
http://www.python.org/pypi ?
There may be mechanisms for me to take over ownership of those accounts, but I
don't want to step on anyone's toes.


&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
    <dc:creator>jcrofts-zY4eFNvK5D9If6P1QZMOBw&lt; at &gt;public.gmane.org</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2010-06-26T09:46:10</dc:date>
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  <item rdf:about="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.encryption.cryptobox.devel/312">
    <title>CryptoNAS  v0.3.5 is here!</title>
    <link>http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.encryption.cryptobox.devel/312</link>
    <description>&lt;pre&gt;I finally set up a Debian package repository, which made it possible for 
"lh_source" to complete. This was essential because it was the only 
feasible way to include the source on physical media. As you know, the 
GNU GPL requires source code to be available in order to distribute 
programs legally.

This release would not have happened without a friend, who sold me a 
used server at a very reasonable price for use as a build server.

Torrents for the release are available at 
http://snapshots.cryptonas.org/pub/cryptonas-live/ .  If you can, please 
help by being a seeder. I plan to seed over this "release weekend" from 
a second location as well as my home server.

I haven't heard from Age or Lars in a long time, so I have to assume I'm 
the only (semi) active developer at this point. If you would like to 
help announce this release on Free Software-related websites such as 
Freshmeat, send me an email. I haven't had a chance to update the 
website to reflect the release; some of you may have the necessary SVN 
permissions, or perhaps not.

--James
jcrofts-e+AXbWqSrlAAvxtiuMwx3w&amp;lt; at &amp;gt;public.gmane.org


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