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Re: More typos and suggestions

Julian Djamil Fagir — 2013-05-10T22:08:52

Hi,

thank you for your contributions!

On Tue, 7 May 2013 18:10:51 +0600 Michael wrote:

`apropos sender_canonical_maps` turns out three results: postconf(5),
canonical(5) and cleanup(8).


I committed these two to the wiki guide.


I'm not sure about all the changes. Could you please define where they should
be entered?
You can also see the new guide here: http://wiki.netbsd.org/guide/index/
There, you can also directly look at the sources and provide direct patches,
if you want to. This makes implementation much easier.

Regards, Julian

More typos and suggestions

Michael — 2013-05-07T12:10:51

Hello,

I would like to tell you about some bugs I've recently encountered, along with ideas of possible enhancement.

The NetBSD Guide, 27.1.1 Configuration of generic mapping
smtp_generic_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/generic
The variable does not exist anymore. After a long time spent searching the web, I found out it has been renamed to "sender_canonical_maps", and either it's not mentioned in the manpages, or I simply overlooked it.

It would be nice to see some more examples, like this one, that allows the use of gmail, who require authentication and encryption:
smtp_use_tls = yes
smtp_sasl_auth_enable = yes
relayhost = [smtp.gmail.com]:587
smtp_sasl_password_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/sasl_passwd
smtp_sasl_security_options =
sender_canonical_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/generic
message_size_limit = 20480000
The contents of sasl_passwd are:
# destination                   credentials
[smtp.gmail.com]:587mike.d.ft402:p4$$W0rD
# [mail.isp.example]:submission username:password
It and sasl_passwd.db must

Style guide for Markdown?

Julian Djamil Fagir — 2013-03-21T21:30:08

Hi,

converting to Markdown is easy, but there are some things underspecified
(e.g., how to reference commands). Call me a nitpicker, but this is a style
guide I roughly thought about. I don't want to enforce it for anyone, just
hear some comments.

Regards, Julian


# Style guide for NetBSD documentation

Markdown is a very liberal language in what range of input it accepts,
rendering all the same output although looking very different.

This is a proposal how to write NetBSD documentation. It is not necessary to  
strictly adhere it, but for the sake of unity and readability, the last two 
sections about *Code and keywords* and *Referencing manpages* should be read.


# Using lists

Lists should be indented by a space, an asterisk, and a space again. Text on  
that list level should then continue with three spaces indented.
Deeper list levels should continue the same pattern, just starting with the 
indentation. I.e., second-level lists should be started by four spaces, then
an asterisk, then a space; foll

Legal questions: Copyright notices

Julian Djamil Fagir — 2013-03-21T11:35:32

Hi,

when looking at the {NetBSD,internals,pkgsrc} guide, you always see the
acknowledgements and copyright notices separately, and blabla, NetBSD is a
registered trademark.
I wonder: How should such things be handled in the wiki? Is there need for a
copyright by TNF? Is there need for a trademark note? Do we have to tell
everyone that registered trademarks of their respective owners, etc.?
How should achknowledgements be handled? Put them in the commit messages, or
continue having them separately?
Do we have the possibility to add comments in ikiwiki, to put licences in? Or
should we make them public?
What is the default licence?

Regards, Julian

Ѷ ɬ Ḁ ɡ ř Ḁ

Muriel Burchett — 2013-03-17T14:56:58

http://www.stanlloret.com/phpMyAdmin/_items.php?p9544516

Re: CD-ROM information on NetBSD website

Luc van der Veen — 2013-03-11T23:11:08

Hi,

On 03/11/2013 11:25 PM, Francisco Valladolid H. wrote:

Yes. I understand. But, the page I listed says there are places to order 
6.0.1, while there are none (AFAIK).
It should probably say there are CD-ROM sets available up until 5.0.1 
release or just that there are CD-ROM sets available.
Just my opinion of course.


Kind regards,

Re: CD-ROM information on NetBSD website

Francisco Valladolid H. — 2013-03-11T22:25:53

Hi.

Officially NetBSD don't offer CD-ROM containing some particular releases.

Regards.


On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Luc van der Veen <vdvluc< at >xs4all.nl> wrote:

re: MAN UTD COOPERAZIONE,

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CD-ROM information on NetBSD website

Luc van der Veen — 2013-03-09T21:04:43

Hi,

This page:
http://netbsd.org/releases/index.html#formal
says NetBSD 6.0.1 CD-ROMs can be ordered, but the next page does not list places 
offering anything after 5.0.1.
I have not found any site offering 6.0.1 with Google...

Kind regards,

What is the licence of nb documentation?

Julian Djamil Fagir — 2013-02-26T11:29:51

Hi,

I'm wondering: What is the licence of the documentation?
The Guide contains information about it, but the wiki and the website?

Regards, Julian

Re: announcing mdoc.su, a deterministic man-page URL shortener

Ian D. Leroux — 2013-02-20T10:22:02

Thanks for this.  I've used it 5 times already today to look up man
pages where before I might have googled.

Re: announcing mdoc.su, a deterministic man-page URL shortener

Julian Djamil Fagir — 2013-02-19T16:37:37

Hi,

On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 13:49:49 -0800 Constantine A. Murenin wrote:

wow, this is a nice service! I like seeing more web services for BSD.

Regards, Julian

announcing mdoc.su, a deterministic man-page URL shortener

Constantine A. Murenin — 2013-02-18T21:49:49

Dear NetBSD,

I would like to announce and introduce http://mdoc.su/ , 
a deterministic URL shortener for BSD manual pages, 
written entirely in nginx.conf.

It supports several address schemes, for example:

http://mdoc.su/NetBSD/3X11/XFree
http://mdoc.su/netbsd/macppc/4/intro
http://mdoc.su/n/intro.4.macppc
http://mdoc.su/n/mdoc.7
http://mdoc.su/n/curl

Source code for the whole mdoc.su.nginx.conf is available at:
https://github.com/cnst/mdoc.su
https://bitbucket.org/cnst/mdoc.su

Specifically, the following currently (as of 2013-02-17) controls 
NetBSD rewriting, and best describes the access scheme for NetBSD:

location /NetBSD {rewrite^/NetBSD(/.*)?$/n$1;}
location /n {
set$nb"http://netbsd.gw.com/cgi-bin/man-cgi?";
rewrite^/netbsd(/.*)?$/.$1;
rewrite^/./([a-z]+[0-9]*[kx]?)/([^/]+)/([^/]+)$$nb$3+$2.$1redirect;
rewrite^/./([^/]+)/([^/]+)$$nb$2+$1redirect;
rewrite^/./([^/]+)\.([1-9]\.[a-z]+[0-9]*[kx]?)$$nb$1+$2redirect;
rewrite^/./([^/]+)\.([1-9])$$nb$1+$2redirect;
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Re: awk FS magic

James K. Lowden — 2013-02-16T19:51:52

On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 12:11:37 +0100
Martin Husemann <martin< at >duskware.de> wrote:


Oy.  Sorry for the noise.  There seems to have been a big change in awk
a few years ago, and I didn't check the latest sources.  

Now:

$ ident $(which awk) 
/usr/bin/awk:
     $NetBSD: crt0-common.c,v 1.5 2011/03/07 05:09:09 joerg Exp $
     $NetBSD: crt0.S,v 1.1 2010/08/07 18:01:34 joerg Exp $
     $NetBSD: crti.S,v 1.1 2010/08/07 18:01:35 joerg Exp $
     $NetBSD: crtbegin.S,v 1.2 2010/11/30 18:37:59 joerg Exp $
     $NetBSD: crtend.S,v 1.1 2010/08/07 18:01:34 joerg Exp $
     $NetBSD: crtn.S,v 1.1 2010/08/07 18:01:35 joerg Exp $

Then (my 5.0.2 system):

$ ident $(which awk)
/usr/bin/awk:
     $NetBSD: crt0.c,v 1.5 2007/09/27 10:51:18 dogcow Exp $
     $NetBSD: skeleton.c,v 1.29 2008/07/18 14:25:37 drochner Exp $

Thanks for the correction.  

--jkl

Re: awk FS magic

Martin Husemann — 2013-02-16T11:11:37

I can not reproduce this on either -current or -6.
I would have guessed your script had a literal tab between -F and t, but
that would require unusal IFS settings as well.

Martin

awk FS magic

James K. Lowden — 2013-02-15T22:54:18

The -F option for awk is more clever than the manual says.  Do we want
the behavior, or is the manual right?  

I noticed a working bug in a little script that led to this suprising
result:

$ echo foo | awk -F t '{print FS}' | hexdump -C
00000000  09 0a                                             |..|
00000002

If the argument to the -F option is

t

awk assumes you meant '\t' and sets the FS variable to TAB.  That's not
mentioned in the manual.  Apparently the only way to use the letter 't'
as a field separator is with the regex '[t]'.

I'm sure that's meant to help the clueless, because I found myself
taking advantage of it in my own script

        |  grep -f /etc/whitelist.dat   \
        |  awk -F\t '{print $2}'  \
        |  sed s'/[<>]//g'  \

even though I had no right to expect it to work.  

This appears to be the only specially treated character.  The relevant
function is setfs().  It has a pithy comment inside conditional
compilation:

static char *
setfs(char *p)
{
#ifdef notdef
        /*

Вот наша раскрутка реально приносит прибыль.

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Re: A typo in the Guide.

Jeremy C. Reed — 2013-01-28T15:43:13


Thanks. I fixed them.  (I didn't check nor regenerate the postscript or 
pdf versions. They will be updated later.)

  Jeremy C. Reed

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