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Cookbook - The Food Geek

Brianna Laugher — 2008-11-25T02:36:18

Hi, I came across this post from the CC News feed that Cookbookers might be interested to read: Thefoodgeek.com is licensed CC-BY so I think their material could be repurposed in the Cookbook if desired. Incidentally it might be useful if the Cookbook had a page listing other freely licensed recipe/cooking resources. cheers Brianna

Connexions

Mike.lifeguard — 2008-11-21T00:14:26

I just finished watching Richard Baraniuk's 2006 talk at TED (http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/richard_baraniuk_on_open_sour ce_learning.html) and took a look at Connexions. I notice that they use CC-by-2.0 (note it's not ShareAlike). So, that is a potential source of content in the future if WMF migrates in the end. I'm only just starting to explore it, I may have more to share later. If you're interested, take a look: http://cnx.org/ -Mike ---- Mike.lifeguard mikelifeguard-97jfqw80gc6171pxa8y+qA< at >public.gmane.org

Re: 800 page upper limit

Johannes Beigel — 2008-11-20T10:06:55

It shouldn't: The resulting page on pediapress.com should say "The size of content exceeds our limitations" together with some explanation text. When the above error occurs, it means that an error occured somewhere in the process when articles/templates/images are packaged on the MediaWiki side and transferred to PediaPress. About the problem with this particular collection [[Wikibooks:Collections/Adventist_Youth_Honors_Answer_Book/Nature]]: If you just load it and click the "Order book from PediaPress" button, the error occurs. That's because at some point, the packaging process for this collection had an error and the data is cached[1]. But if you change something (e.g. enter a different title or subtitle) before clicking the button, the packaging is triggered again and the upload works (which *does* result in a book exceeding the current limits for PediaPress books BTW :). [1] How long the data is cached is configurable: It's a cron-Job that has to be set up, which deletes al

Re: 800 page upper limit

j.w. thomas — 2008-11-20T01:23:25

Could this explain the problem I've been having? [[Collections:Adventist Youth Honors Answer Book/Nature]] renders a 622 page PDF. 1.5 times that is what... 911 pages? Jokes about 911 being an emergency number aside, will exceeding 800 pages result in this error: An Error Occured on the MediaWiki Site Something went wrong on one of our servers. We're sorry and apologize for the inconvenience! The problem has already been reported to PediaPress staff. Please try again at a later time. Something went wrong on the MediaWiki when your article collection was packaged. Maybe if I divided the book into two volumes...

Re: load collection not working on en.wikibooks

Andrew Whitworth — 2008-11-19T13:47:43

Thanks Johannes! I'll test it out today and let you know if I find any other issues. --Andrew Whitworth On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 5:32 AM, Johannes Beigel public.gmane.org> wrote:

Re: load collection not working on en.wikibooks

Johannes Beigel — 2008-11-19T10:32:03

I introduced a bug in revision 43606[1] of the Collection extension which has been fixed in rev 43671[2]. Should be working again.

Re: load collection not working on en.wikibooks

Andrew Whitworth — 2008-11-18T22:31:09

I'm sorry Jim, I didn't realize you had said something earlier! This just goes to show that I receive entirely too much email when important things like this get lost in the cracks. Let's hope we get it resolved soon, I have a few orders I want to place... --Andrew Whitworth On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 2:41 PM, j.w. thomas public.gmane.org> wrote:

Re: load collection not working on en.wikibooks

j.w. thomas — 2008-11-18T19:41:42

Yup! I assume you missed my previous missive?

Re: load collection not working on en.wikibooks

Erik Moeller — 2008-11-18T19:36:59

2008/11/18 Andrew Whitworth public.gmane.org>: I can reproduce this. Forwarded to Brion as well.

load collection not working on en.wikibooks

Andrew Whitworth — 2008-11-18T19:26:08

I tried it today, and the "load collection" feature doesn't appear to be working on en.wikibooks. I've tried with several saved collections, and none of them will load. I don't remember the last time I tried to do it, it may have been before the flaggedrevs extension was installed. Any ideas on what might be causing this? Is this error happening for anybody else?

Re: Some help with translations needed - Two sentences, four terms

j.w. thomas — 2008-11-18T17:36:59

I don't know if it's related or not, but Collections seem to be completely broken at the moment. I cannot load saved collections, nor can I create new ones. If I click a "PDF version" link at the bottom of the left pane, I likewise get nothing. Help?

Re: Some help with translations needed - Two sentences,four terms

Johannes Beigel — 2008-11-18T16:49:08

Today, I've committed a change which takes the category name from the system message 'coll-exclusion_category_title': http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki?view=rev&revision=43673 The other strings that are now adjustable, are the name of the template blacklist ('coll-template_blacklist_title') and the prefix for print templates ('coll-print_template_prefix'). Previously these values had to be set as global configuration variables in LocalSettings.php (and the print template prefix was even hard-coded).

Re: Some help with translations needed - Two sentences, four terms

Jorge Morais — 2008-11-18T16:06:12

Hi Heiko, What about the categories? I haven't tested it yet, but can the "Exclude in print" category be redirected and still continue to work? Thank you. Jorge Morais from pt.wikibooks. _________________________________________________________________ Confira vídeos com notícias do NY Times, gols direto do Lance, videocassetadas e muito mais no MSN Video! http://video.msn.com/?mkt=pt-br

Wikibooks logo vote in progress

Cary Bass — 2008-11-17T21:31:51

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I haven't seen this yet posted to the Textbook-l list or foundation-l so I wanted to make it known that Wikibooks is winding down its logo vote over the next couple weeks. While we're asking people not to specify color, text, and there may be some minor tweaks to style, the end logo will be look extremely similar to what we decide here. Thanks. Cary Bass Volco Wikimedia Foundation -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJIeLGyQg4JSymDYkRApxjAKDYJ8fH5b6x7L0qrs4W9g+mF51XtwCfYDBD iSVbdENIjUQB4qTk21FMzWk= =9fKj -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Re: First book Feedback

Volker Haas — 2008-11-14T15:59:47

Andrew Whitworth wrote: Thanks for pointing out that issue. For the book version formulas are rendered with latex, just as the Mediawiki does it. But there was one difference though, we always used the "math" (latex) environment. For formulas that appear on their own line we are now using the "displaymath" environment that does not cramp the formulas in the way you have seen it. --> Formulas should now look even nicer ;) I fixed this in the latex-writer (books), the downloadable pdf version already did the right thing.

Re: [mwlib] First book Feedback

Heiko Hees — 2008-11-14T14:47:44

On Nov 14, 2008, at 12:54 AM, Andrew Whitworth wrote: At least there should be some way to set an editor within a collection and to transmit this to pediapress. This allows for a sensible default value if people order existing collections. Maybe we should support to handle Ref/Note that way. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Ref/doc Can you give us an example of this. Usually those formulas should look good, except for rare cases where they get too long and we need to scale them. I am confused. article == module != wiki-page ? Chapters always start on top of the next right-hand page. I think this fairly common. We are using the highest resolution available for images. If there is only a low-res version of images this may result in pixilated images in printed books (600 DPI vs. 90 DPI of displays). A solution would be to scale the image to lower dimensions but that would be seen as a bug also. Above is true for books that are published. Otherwise we are rather acting like a "

Some help with translations needed - Two sentences,four terms

Heiko Hees — 2008-11-14T13:55:50

Hi, please help us localize some strings used in the generated PDF. The process of localization will be updated to use BetaWiki in the future, but for now we'd appreciate your help. See this page if you have two minutes spare: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:PDF_Writer/Localization Thanks, Heiko

Re: First book Feedback

Andrew Whitworth — 2008-11-14T13:17:40

On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 9:48 PM, Mike.lifeguard public.gmane.org> wrote: [...] [...] Thanks mike! I should have opened tickets myself, but I really wanted to post the feedback to the list first so I could get some feedback on my feedback, and maybe some suggestions. It looks to me (and I could definitely be wrong) like it's using the "HTML if possible" rendering option, probably to save bandwidth on the conversion server. This sounds like a great solution, and I didn't even realize it was an option. There are a lot of editors, myself included, who would like to use real names more often. I like having the pseudonym as well for a variety of reasons, but being able to post my real name for things like published books would be a great thing. It beats having to explain to people I show the books off to that "Yeah, in this book I'm listed at Whiteknight instead of by my real name", and trying to explain why that is. Maybe we should ask the higher-ups whether this is even

Re: First book Feedback

Mike.lifeguard — 2008-11-14T02:48:22

On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 18:54:01 -0500, "Andrew Whitworth" public.gmane.org> said: [...] Good call. -> http://code.pediapress.com/wiki/ticket/356 Requested: http://code.pediapress.com/wiki/ticket/355 This should probably use the same renderer as we use for math images. Not sure why it wouldn't do so. Haven't added a bug for this as it's not clear to me what's going on or what needs to change. We could request $wgAllowRealName to be enabled - then Collections could access that for attribution where provided. Probably that's a good idea - users don't have to provide a real name, and we should allow everyone who wishes to do so to provide a name for attribution. -Mike ---- Mike.lifeguard mikelifeguard-97jfqw80gc6171pxa8y+qA< at >public.gmane.org

First book Feedback

Andrew Whitworth — 2008-11-13T23:54:01

First off, I've seen some of the new software changes on the wiki, and they look great. As promised, I got my first book today, and I'm racing through it to come up with feedback for the PediaPress people. I have lots and lots of feedback already, most of it is not urgent or anything and some of it is going to be difficult to implement because it's sort of wikibooks-specific. Having a robust set of configuration options that can be set on the wiki would help alleviate a lot of these things without having to tie the extension to any single wiki. 1) On the table of contents, it says "Articles", when that word really doesn't mean anything for books. The first heading that says "Articles" should either be changed to the name of the book or should be removed entirely. Actually, you could probably read the value from [[MediaWiki:Article]] to make this solution portable. 2) Subpages shouldn't be prepended with the name of the book. For instance, the chapter should just be titled "CHAPTERNAME", not "BOOKNAME/CHAPT

Got my book!

Andrew Whitworth — 2008-11-13T19:00:18

Just wanted to post a quick message to the list here to say that I got my first book in the mail today! Actually, I think I would have gotten it on Tuesday except there was a holiday and then the UPS guy came on wednesday when I was at work. The book looks awesome, much better and much higher quality then I was expecting. I've seen books before that were self-published and print-on-demand that were of very low quality, and this is not one of them. It's a good weight paper, good printing and typesetting, nice cover, etc. It's going to be so much more awesome when we get customizable cover images and ISBN numbers, but that can wait. The book dimensions are a little smaller then I expected (I didn't pull out a ruler or anything beforehand), but it's not too too small by any stretch. I wonder if we could have the option to have a larger book size (8x11 or something)? That would help for books with more content, to help keep them under the 800-page limit by increasing the amount of "stuff" per page. Anyway, I'